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@Joyfulbeekeeper
@Joyfulbeekeeper Год назад
"If you are new to the game.... *Grubby picture* " - that was perfect! 😂
@xbon1
@xbon1 Месяц назад
bros so new i ain't even seen him play 7.36a yet.
@shazec
@shazec Год назад
Lmao, love the new to the game picture :D Great vid as always, thanks BSJ. Honestly for me these kinds of videos are the best content because it teaches us how to THINK about Dota by ourselves. We can always go demo/tutorial and practice last hits, pulling creeps, creep aggro and stuff. And while these are important things to do well, once you've mastered the basics/fundamentals to a certain level, it's the way you think about the game that matters the most.
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Год назад
No herald your wrong I’m 11k immortal your 1k herald jealous?
@DanielCodyBloedow
@DanielCodyBloedow Год назад
I love this. I already knew a lot of it from watching your stream and putting it together from your other videos, but I think I lost the nuances you covered here and having it all put together in such a concise, detailed manner was really helpful. #1 Dota 2 educator bar none.
@brankbrankbrank
@brankbrankbrank Год назад
Great vid. Could you make a similar video about target priority in fights or your role as different positions in team fights. When should Pos1 jump supports in team fights? When should they man up against opponent carry? Who should generally initiate and how should others enter or weave in and out of fights? Maybe potential for a series of videos :)
@MyFlamingoe
@MyFlamingoe Год назад
He does discuss these stuff in his coaching sessions. Altho you'll have to watch multiple videos as there isn't a single video discussing all the topics you mentioned.
@TheBBoySwing
@TheBBoySwing Год назад
I would like this kind of video. If you can make it one with multiple example as this one of the farming item or the one of the bkb.
@kms1137
@kms1137 Год назад
He do have a video about this, you have to search tho
@Kozichi
@Kozichi Год назад
I think killing the save/big ultimate support is always the best answer. If they have no save, quickly delete the core before bkb, then go for the helpless supports
@jakecowan6441
@jakecowan6441 Год назад
@@MyFlamingoe Thats why he asked for it lmao
@trovestove6886
@trovestove6886 Год назад
Really good and what I needed as a noob thanks for highlighting items spikes at different stages of the game and the thought process behind them
@Dsdler
@Dsdler Год назад
Thank you very much for this video and the other youve recently posted. Love the chill approach and all the knowledge you present in a relaxed and logical way that is applicable to a wide range of players with different skill levels.
@bijaliaailajib7953
@bijaliaailajib7953 Год назад
Finally something worth taking in with tons of in game examples and in-depth explainations with reasons for doing so
@ejejo
@ejejo Год назад
Very clear and effective, understand what questions you have to ask yourself and what to think, thanks BSJ
@jasonevans2178
@jasonevans2178 Год назад
Great content, loving the new approach! Keep it up BSJ
@violentchimp7657
@violentchimp7657 Год назад
By far one of your best how to play dota 2 videos, this is something I think I struggle with the most is items and I felt could have won me more games if I just knew how to use and buy them outside of the guide I follow religiously
@crokey5295
@crokey5295 Год назад
As a newer player that is familiar with other MOBA's I thought this video is brilliant. The thought process behind these item purchases actually helps me read into 'builds' that I would look up on dotabuff for example where I couldn't really understand the logic of it before. A similar video covering other roles would be something I would instantly watch.
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Год назад
Haha herald noob I’m 11k immortal are you jealous of me I’m amazing
@siedlecek
@siedlecek Год назад
Somehow you have developed a new way of covering already covered topics in a fresh way. I like it a lot recently. Keep it going :)
@Lupp0
@Lupp0 Год назад
Like the new content route you're taking bud. And i wish you goodluck keeping up the tempo, it's gotta be brutal for you :) Hope it makes your channel grow though, it should!
@Jakegaming03
@Jakegaming03 Год назад
I just started playing dota 2 weeks ago and found this video super helpful. Would like a similar one for offlane and Maybe other ingame senarios like team fighting and target priority. Love the vids keep it up
@jamiecoleman773
@jamiecoleman773 Год назад
Great Video, I love the use of items and reasoning part of the video
@justinpfrunder5951
@justinpfrunder5951 Год назад
Really great video. Teaching more than just item builds but teaching the correct overall approach to dota and the founding concepts that should determine your items. Gold mate
@Qminoo
@Qminoo Год назад
BSJ, my man, I'd like to thank you for this incredibly insightful video (as well as others) that completely change the way I think about the game.
@anh-tainguyen9840
@anh-tainguyen9840 Год назад
thanks BSJ for the indept analysis on carry itemization! Great content as usual :)
@armorose
@armorose Год назад
I absolutely loved the insights from this video. Playing dota for 13 years by just going GANK! GANK! GANK! I never moved up in MMR. I started watching BSJ and first learnt the importance of farming. But since I had never really concentrated on CS before, I went from Guardian 5 to Herald 2 just cause I had to focus so much on getting last hits that I was unable to keep a check on the mini-map. [Blamed BSJ for the downfall.] After a month of practicing CS and farming patterns, it sort of became a part of my "muscle memory". So in 2 weeks I climbed up from Herald 2 to Crusader 1 just by always out-farming the enemy carrys. [All cause of BSJ] I play in SEA region (i.e. 2 out of 5 games my team will have a hard support sniper! Well... so will the enemy team :P) Most essential learnings from BSJ that worked for me in this bracket: Herald - Crusader 1. Pick heroes that scale well. 9 out of 10 games will go beyond 50 minutes in this bracket. Heroes like Shaman, Lion, Riki, Weaver wont be able to do much on their own once you cross the 40min mark. 2. Don't lose farm to get a successful gank where your win probability is less than 70%. (Early game) 3. Don't rage on your team for being stupid. It only deteriorates them. (Still working on this. This ones really hard :P) 4. Don't follow your team into obvious blunders. [This has some exceptions I think. Because if you follow BSJ, you would probably have out-farmed the enemy core by at least 3k. That would mean in a team fight you can probably wipe more people of the enemy team by kitting: just like he did with Sven in this video, if you stay back your team could just feed their carry and leave you to the almost impossible task of defending Mega 1v5) 5. You should fight/gank when you're losing; but farm when you're winning. [Will implement this now. Hopefully it would take me from Crusader to Archon]
@Teinve
@Teinve Год назад
Can we get an itemization guide like this for other roles? This is amazing and I want to see more
@KevinCarlino
@KevinCarlino Год назад
Love these new item analysis type videos, keep them coming.
@cloycloy2589
@cloycloy2589 Год назад
very comprehensive guide. thank you for sharing this
@SK3564
@SK3564 Год назад
Great video!! It really helps make item decision-making easier as a carry 👍
@N3onDr1v3
@N3onDr1v3 Год назад
So you wanna be a carry gotta get that bling Can you crit like a southbound freight train Tell me just one thing Can you shift queue in a word like a wyverns wing If you need to Can you juke, can you weave Can you illu fake and deceive when you need to Well you might as well quit Cause you cant last hit So you wanna be a carry Do you gl next I can tell if you've got it in you Cause i out cs the best When you tryhard and you sweat And you bet that you train in timbersaw Then you near lose your mind When you find that youre not playing core Well you might as well quit Got bkb fiends gripped Put him in the mk ring, joe Look at what you found This game is fun joe Stomping noobs abound We'll show him the ropes And destroy his hopes Hear the siren sing, joe Give the noob a chance He got poison stinged, joe Veno's got d lance You know he gonna quit, Cause his team just dipped So you wana be a carry Wanna get that dub We see a midas in your queue Dont be a top scrub If you listen and you learn Theres mmr you can earn, and defend it When you keep buying crown And youre wraith king and a clown A contender But you might as well quit Cause you're gonna lose it He took my arcane ring, joe Going to report He's got too high a ping, joe His farm is falling short Getting flamed holding shift He'll dc real swift Using drows bowstring, joe Cant kill a siege cart Cant do anything, joe And he bought a heart If we don't tell him he will never know He cant carry his internet's too slow
@wyvern2318
@wyvern2318 Год назад
epic bro enjoyed reading that
@khqlifq
@khqlifq Год назад
i wanna kms reading that
@N3onDr1v3
@N3onDr1v3 Год назад
@@khqlifq reported for intentional feeding
@Kaerusss
@Kaerusss Год назад
Hey late to the party but this was a really concise breakdown, fleshed out all your thoughts on it well and I really enjoyed watching it for that. I felt like I was slowly coming to terms with a few of these concepts, but I'm pretty low tier, this really helped consolidate my understanding of some of the early game decision making/itemization. Throwing you a sub, can already see you have a bunch more vids I'm keen to learn from!
@EdgarTheOgre
@EdgarTheOgre Год назад
I would add Boots of Travel to the list. I have found, in several scenarios, with heroes like TB, I've been able to carry the game because I rushed boots of travel that allowed me to kite a stronger early-mid game team but with low mobility and that allowed me to make my spaces to farm. Sometimes games are so hard that you have to go yolo. I saw this in a 10k+ game recently, but I can't remember who it was exactly, it was just a very high mmr game showing in the lobby.
@rororo707
@rororo707 Год назад
underrated. i don't know what rank you are, but keep at it and try to think really critically on how to best use the item and how many applications you can make it work. i guarantee you are probably onto something that could be meta defining eventually. I think bots 2 is also worth considering, because of the lowered cooldown and lowered channel time. Here is my thought process: you have your initial idea, of a hero who can accelerate very fast with bots. now, for 2k gold, in some games, you can become a global haunt extremely early, maybe with an inbetween item after bots 1. Something like say, luna, brown boots -> mom -> bots -> bkb/manta -> bots 2, fight with level 2 eclipse. some food for thought :D
@jasonkoh8459
@jasonkoh8459 Год назад
You are perfectly a great teacher , ur explanation & the way u present are make viewer comfortable also easy to understand a pro player point of view. wonderful video
@armiddle29
@armiddle29 Год назад
it's easy to get confused with your item choice on a carry, thank you for these guidelines BSJ
@mythik4840
@mythik4840 Год назад
Thanks BSJ! I have a question about Armlet carries (Naix, WK, CK) - it seems like these heroes want to build Armlet as their first item most of the time; would you say that this is their farm accelerator, and their next item should be a survivability item? Or would you say that Armlet is more like when Ursa/Riki go Diffusal, and that it's a more aggressive option? Would you build Armlet on Naix if you also plan to go, say, Maelstrom?
@comradeicez2863
@comradeicez2863 Год назад
This is perfect!! As a pos 1 player in my guardian bracket!
@milad-kh892
@milad-kh892 Год назад
if my school teachers could teach in the level that u do dotas i'd be a freaking genius right now
@redypo
@redypo Год назад
I hope you make a guide for offlane and supoprt after this. These are super informative!
@gavinchung8177
@gavinchung8177 Год назад
Bsj bro, your vids are so good man, can learn so much, keep up the goods!
@mattisriiskjrbentsen3604
@mattisriiskjrbentsen3604 Год назад
Very informative, thanks!
@mohammadamingudarzi3361
@mohammadamingudarzi3361 Год назад
So much information. Thanks!
@browsergameshub
@browsergameshub Год назад
Hahaha thumbs up for the "new to the game" picture 😂😂 Great content, thank you for making these guides!
@jcor77
@jcor77 Год назад
Very informative, thank you! 🔥
@bondedomao
@bondedomao Год назад
Oh gosh I play for 10 years and I can't think like that easily. I really have to train this! A lot of this also applies for any other pos in general, amazing content!
@MJ-wi1tc
@MJ-wi1tc Год назад
This was very helpful, more like this pls
@Fas7Blas7
@Fas7Blas7 Год назад
"Time and time, again." Rings a bell doesn't it? 😂
@gianfrancoferrer9320
@gianfrancoferrer9320 Год назад
Great video! I hope you make a similar video for offlaners. I sometimes struggle itemizing even with heroes that i have been spamming since i started the game.
@MerajZargar
@MerajZargar Год назад
Ty bsj great content ,pls make a video about how to pick good carry for a game
@alejandroecheverriafernand2064
bsj you're really helping the dota 2 comunity with yout content. can you make a video about choosing the perfect hero from your hero pool for the match?
@alwaysradical1613
@alwaysradical1613 Год назад
Yeah I’m in the same spot. I try to follow all the bsj advice, but I think I’m at the level where my hero choice is the most limiting part of my game.
@Omar-rt1hy
@Omar-rt1hy Год назад
I don't think he would make such a video, but if he does, it would be 4 hours long xD Though in order to know which hero to pick, you have to know all the 123 heroes, their spells, strengths, weaknesses, and their timings. Such knowledge is obtained by playing alot, and I mean alot, of dota 2 games.
@jinorelova
@jinorelova Год назад
Man wish i could send this to some of my pub carries. Specially that one game I had carry LC who bought first item dagger and absolutely never participated in early fights. What a drag.
@tylersheppard9526
@tylersheppard9526 Год назад
Really helpful video bsj, thanks
@as2onish
@as2onish Год назад
Amazing tutorial. Thx
@HamyHaxxor
@HamyHaxxor Год назад
Good shit brother, this is easy to digest and translate to carries on my team that I might be supporting as well.
@mariela9210
@mariela9210 5 месяцев назад
haha, its wild to see a 1yr ago grubby was 'new' and now hes immortal. lol
@joaomarques8534
@joaomarques8534 5 месяцев назад
''HEY RAZOR, THIS IS MY AREA TO FARM NOW'' Was a very good synthesis explanation. Thanks for the imortal Technique (literrally)
@eliwalther4677
@eliwalther4677 Год назад
Great vid I feel like this helps so much with itemization
@Blazer112able
@Blazer112able Год назад
Would love to see a guide on Faceless Void and how to itemize for him.
@ghardy2922
@ghardy2922 Год назад
He made one already. That was like a year ago tho
@adrianazappoli4899
@adrianazappoli4899 Год назад
Thank you bsj, this kind of video i find very esplicative and interesting. Love y for all the work you've done and enjoy being with you listening these type of knowledge
@OrdoMallius
@OrdoMallius Год назад
Back in Wc3 days we had a carry build. Make hearth+buriza and crystalis and it's gg.
@CptVein
@CptVein Год назад
I have 9000+ hours in Dota 2 The first Dota I played, max lvl was 10 and you couldn't combine items This video is still super useful Thank you
@sandypella
@sandypella Год назад
Thank you bro, you make dota a better game and community!
@wiserskipper
@wiserskipper 6 месяцев назад
My games went from 4/10 to 10/10 with this guide. The knowledge that you should buy items in the 1. farm 2.survival 3.kill steps was the biggest help. And on support I go 1.survival 2.survival 3.survival my rank has been flying up
@christiaanroos4479
@christiaanroos4479 Год назад
Great stuff! Keep it up!
@wisemanalwayslucky
@wisemanalwayslucky Год назад
The quality of content and production on this video is incredible.
@dbrobey
@dbrobey Год назад
Great video, it ended too soon! I was hanging on all that wisdom.
@soullighter
@soullighter Год назад
Thank you for opening my mind after 14 years of DotA
@Itzak15
@Itzak15 Год назад
Always play full glass canon. Either you win hard or feed hard
@prince_warhero
@prince_warhero Год назад
Nice vid..pls do similar item progression video for all roles especially supports
@syedrehanfida
@syedrehanfida Год назад
I also get crystalys as a farming + fighting item at start to mid game. On heroes like faceless void...
@Masoneuler
@Masoneuler Год назад
Lost it at the new to the game picture. Amazing
@washburntelecaster
@washburntelecaster Год назад
grubbys picture is tottally clear for me. lol. So happy to see him playing dota.
@suspecthalo
@suspecthalo Год назад
Wish I had seen this earlier tbh. Just finished a game as Terrorblade, and went manta first thinking I'd be fine. However, I ended up soaking the CC instead because I was greedy with manta -> skadi instead of stronger defensive items. I was really far ahead in terms of gold too, so it hurt a bit more too. RIP the Grubby picture
@exogaming9013
@exogaming9013 Год назад
Thank you BSJ , now I understand what should I do in my game
@alwaysradical1613
@alwaysradical1613 Год назад
It’s just the best content. Hands down. Thanks bsj. You da realist
@tarnished7403
@tarnished7403 Год назад
Really informative for Carry players but I was wandering if you could do a video like this for offlaners. Really, any concept video like this would be great for offlane players.
@legendarynoob4689
@legendarynoob4689 Год назад
A lot of stuff that is not said and should be but i do feel like im doing a lot of these things when i itemize and it does make sense
@dlegend1123
@dlegend1123 Год назад
very informative and helpful video
@sunrise600
@sunrise600 Год назад
straight up learned so fucking much in this video it's blowing my mind
@AGENTURMP
@AGENTURMP Год назад
Lol the Grubby reference!
@1984Vergil
@1984Vergil Год назад
This video is a treasure,Good Job
@coin777
@coin777 Год назад
19:45 In my bracket, that razor is in my team, and will not let me farm there :)
@josephlang2586
@josephlang2586 Год назад
Finally. I knew there was a secret formula. Everyone always says it's about practice and awareness but I always knew that was a lie to keep me in herald.
@blitzfire723
@blitzfire723 Год назад
BSJ: "... the more accurately you can develop this image of how exactly they're gonna kill you is really important..." Me (every time I step outside my home): I agree.
@omkarchavanto422
@omkarchavanto422 Год назад
Awesome content, as always!
@enny7377
@enny7377 Год назад
this honestly is one of the best dota learning video
@Rymorin4
@Rymorin4 8 месяцев назад
great teaching
@SilverForMonsters
@SilverForMonsters Год назад
One of your best videos I've seen!
@ohmygusperez
@ohmygusperez Год назад
Great video. Thank you! Can you make one for supports too?
@33shin33
@33shin33 Год назад
THAT GRUBBY SMILE MAN, THAT's A POTENTIAL Ti WINNER RIGHT THERE HA!
@Rebeljr43
@Rebeljr43 Год назад
Very helpful thankyou
@prithvisharma2900
@prithvisharma2900 Год назад
how to apply this on mid and offlane roles?
@romanberdichevskii5141
@romanberdichevskii5141 3 месяца назад
Can you please make a video where you talk more about what items you would buy in different line ups? I found that this kind of educational content was the most useful for me.
@sagittarius5466
@sagittarius5466 Год назад
17:35 lmao? good one mr editor
@vincentepres7227
@vincentepres7227 Год назад
BSJ just wanna know how about in regards to irregular carry like BH for example. Whats the progression gonna be like?. Coz you build vanguard/hood so in my logic the survivability comes first and then you go aghs. And then aghs is gonna be like the farming item. And then you go damage??? Just want to clarify coz I cant seem to win while using BH. Alch/pudge/BB is no problem for me
@Roz9l
@Roz9l Год назад
Cool video. Loved the Grubby reference) I wonder how this formula applies to PA, who usually buys Deso after BF in a good game. Is this because of the 3rd spell giving the ability to farm somewhat safer?
@BSJ
@BSJ Год назад
That is simply reversing the kill item and survivability item which is bkb. A lot of pas nowadays go fury bkb then deso
@danielchristopher880
@danielchristopher880 Год назад
What is the progression for Offlane? Is it cheaper items but same progression, or different order?
@RodrigoLima-mt1ot
@RodrigoLima-mt1ot Год назад
loved the grubby mention
@Silvont69
@Silvont69 Год назад
That pic of Grubby lmao
@1453Archangel
@1453Archangel Год назад
Best Dota item guide I've ever watched. Thanks Mr. Banana!
@caioferrer4439
@caioferrer4439 Год назад
Amazing video BSJ. You are really a good teacher
@edwinchandilao4926
@edwinchandilao4926 Год назад
How about battlefury heroes? Im quite a noob but i noticed that pa or antimage use battlefury. If im losong, what farming items are good? Maelstrom?
@BeyonderW
@BeyonderW Год назад
Nice video bro, it is so helpfull
@kungfuseadog
@kungfuseadog Год назад
Amazing video, thanks BSJ.
@TheBBoySwing
@TheBBoySwing Год назад
Great video!
@theacme3
@theacme3 Год назад
7:21 Yeah, when im lvl 19 i also allways itemize to kill the lvl 9 winranger reliably xDDD
@andrejaandreja303
@andrejaandreja303 Год назад
Wanna see more videos of BSJ's carry gameplay
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