I DESTROYED my bow riser AND built a bigger better one!

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This is my first attempt at making a takedown bow riser. In the process of trying to make this one I destroyed my old one. I had a blast making this bow riser and I got a slightly surprising result! I hope you enjoy!
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@DanSantanaBows 4 года назад

Another great one Kramer. On the bowyer forum I moderate I’ve seen so many people get into it through your videos. So awesome to see. You’re a huge inspiration, both for bows and videos. Cheers

@Bigge9505 4 года назад

Holy heck man the cinematography has improved so much since the last video!

@paintballercali 4 года назад

I want to learn how to shoot stuff like he does.

@cdp50359 4 года назад

Bro, I'd like to see that riser cut past center or just enough to give the arrow a true center shot. Also, if you question your limb bolts. Completely drill thru the riser and use bolt and nuts

@thelonerider9693 3 года назад

One thing I've found is if you are shooting for say, two hours or more, a heavier bow makes your shoulder feel like crud the next day. Always a good idea to have at least one lighter bow. Never thought about making a riser before. Selfbows, yes, a riser? Never occurred to me! That was very cool to watch! and it came out looking so nice!

@franciscodanconia3551 4 года назад

I watched on my phone, and I was walking into the kitchen when you said the line about us "taking too long watching" that segment, and I laughed so hard I ran into the dishwasher door, fell into the island, and then bounced into the fridge, and yet none of that could stop the laughter. I don't know why I found it that funny, but I figured you should know how I ended up literally rolling on the kitchen floor laughing and holding my shin.

@goodolfashion 4 года назад

Eheh that caught me off guard too but I stayed on my feet :P

@martinaxford47 4 года назад

Great video. This is something I've thought about doing but wasn't sure how to start, now I have a much better idea of how to go about it. Thank you

@roycspary8923 3 года назад

having had a thing for control line model aircraft in my teens a trick I learnt with balso should help with ply also, form the thread in the wood, soak it well with superglue, let it dry thoroughly, then epoxy in the threaded component.hope this helps

@danzephyr2797 4 года назад

Another great vid Kramer...Got my first bow 2 days ago, love it, have my 2nd on its way, I think I am hooked. I plan to make my 3rd one, Thanks for your great advice.

@goodolfashion 4 года назад

Same thing happened here.. first cheap 100$ bow went back to the large surface store a couple days later as I understood I'd be doing this my whole life.. couple months later I shoot a Bear Grizzly with a Kodiak on the way and couldn't be happier :D

@whilomforge3402 4 года назад

Could you pray for me and my family, Kramer? My father died in May last year, very unexpectedly, at 57... I know this seems random to ask of a guy that makes bows on RU-vid, but you seem like such a genuinely nice person that I felt I could ask this of you. I don’t want to worry my wife, or my three small children, or my mother for that matter... but I miss him terribly, and I don’t have anyone to talk to about it. Thanks for your content anyhow, if I had the extra money I’d order a tab or a wallet from you. God bless, and thanks again for your videos!

@lshn8457 4 года назад

I know im not kramer but i just wanna say: stay positive brother, it will get better, you can also search help with your mourning process online ❤️❤️

@goodolfashion 4 года назад

Nothing like flinging arrows to think of nothing .. hope you get better brother

@sigmanarchery54 4 года назад

Great job my friend, I to was not expecting it to drop that much take care and God bless 👍🏼🏹🇺🇸

@cherno2232 4 года назад

Power hour How did you get into archery and bow building in the first place? I wonder ..... Perhaps Also another video idea: turning a light poundaged laminated bow info a heavier poundage bow by adding a backing of more fiberglass

@scottcantdance804 4 года назад

Hobbies are funny. I was trying to get into archery and bowyery, I bought the Traditional Bowyer's Bible, and signed up for a local flintknapping class and learned how to make arrowheads. Then I was out hunting for knappable rocks to make arrowheads with when I picked up something that I thought was a piece of wood, until I touched it. It looked exactly like wood, but was stone. It was petrified wood. I kept finding more and more of it, and here I am 3 years later with, no joke, around 3,000-3,500 lb of petrified wood. And also chert, jasper, random fossils, amber, other stuff. Yes, it drives my wife crazy. No, I'm not going to stop. I never did end up making a functioning bow.

@jloor5267 4 года назад

@@scottcantdance804 if youre inclined you should show off your fossils in a video, could be cool

@cherno2232 4 года назад

@@scottcantdance804 never stop. Cant you get better rock types of you would search down the river stream of a mountain?

@starleen2211 4 года назад

Hi I love your chanel so much ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍

@sprk11 Год назад

I built a riser. Made it shorter to increase poundage. Also due to some wrist injuries I wanted to put more pressure into my palm and take it out of the web of my thumb. I did run into some fit and finish issues, but I'll fix that in a new riser of the same design

@rudamchu 4 года назад

Hey Kramer .. would love to see how fast that lightweight is slinging them arras. Looks pretty zippy for a welterweight.

@jamescooper2618 4 года назад

IMO, One of your better vids Kramer. I like when you try something different in building a bow then show us how it works when it is done. Thanks!

@snowflake4233 4 года назад

thanks for uploading

@maikkel5997 4 года назад

Your videoa are SO underrated

@troybailey6754 4 года назад

literally this is the one bow youtuber I can binge before getting bored I dont know why its just great

@mrnice752 4 года назад

Very cool video! Your riser looks awesome. A couple of other things about riser geometry determine bow weight as well as length. The limb pocket angle determines how much preload is on the limb, yours look similar or even more deflexed than the 17" riser which makes the draw cycle start softer and works the limb less. Also the throat of your grip looks further forward of the limb pocket pivot point, which accentuates the deflex in the riser. I think it works for these shorter limbs though, it should negate any stacking for you as the limb starts to work later in the draw cycle. Good shooting at the end! Try and remember to bring the arrow to your eye rather than moving your head forward, you can still lean after if you want to cant the bow, but I'd suggest learning to shoot upright first! Check out Tom Clum if you haven't already, man's a legend and awesome teacher. All the best.

@stmaju-jitsukerala5307 4 года назад

വളരെ നന്നാിരിക്കുന്നു Kramer Ammon's Very nice .Kramer Ammon's

@TaoistSwordsman 4 года назад

Hey Kray-man... okay I'll work on a better nickname lol. What sort of file or rasp would you buy if you could only have one starting out? I tried looking for a Nicholson 49-50 like you suggested in an older vid, but it appears they've been discontinued:/ thanks, kra-machine! Youre the man

@DanSantanaBows 4 года назад

You can still find them around if you look hard. There are some tool suppliers on ebay that bought up a bunch It’s hard finding random-stitched rasps at the price of the 49/50 so those really are pretty awesome

@TaoistSwordsman 4 года назад

@@DanSantanaBows Thanks for the pointer, I'll look into this further!

@Windrider52 4 года назад

Man, you scared me with this one. I just bought the bow in this video from your recommendation in an earlier video and then see thr riser was "destroyed". I was quite happy to see that it didn't fail on its own.

@liamwilgar1914 4 года назад

Hey Kramer, I think you should start reaching out to other youtubers and try organising a collaboration. You have the skills, the personality and the means and not only would it help increase your subscriber base I think you would positivity effect whomever you collab’d with as well. 100k+ is no joke. As always, much love from Aus we SO enjoy your vids!

@rashomon351 4 года назад

hmm, that's to much of poundage drop for the increased riser length. Seems like something additional is going on there. Maybe a change in the angles of the limb pockets ? Or are they further back towards you ?

@rwlair 3 года назад

Kramer, for other situations like this when you have “stripped out” a screw or bolt, have you ever tried using helicoil inserts?

@rootnpearl 4 года назад

Your arrow shelf should have a radius

@MaazKhan-sr9ml 7 месяцев назад

What kind of binding wood I have to pick up from my risk bow

@garrisonh 4 года назад

cool video! Hey did you change your draw style? It looked like you used the Mediterranean style with the index finger over the arrow. I believe you had been doing the 3 under style before..? Anyway. I always learn something new from each of your videos. Thank You!

@jpvoxdawg 4 года назад

I like the new music choices!

@sephiroth1985102514 3 года назад

Also, 8:56. Words from a "shade tree mechanic", it might not be pretty, but it'll still do what you need it to.

@mjoutdoorgear8134 3 года назад

Not to shabby!! The reason it dropped #20 is because you didn't account for the Limb Pad angle!! You used the same angle as the shorter riser!! I'm guessing you made a 25" riser? Those limb pads need to be alot shallower to get the effect you were looking for!! On your next one try 10-12degrees on that length of Riser!!

@SalmanKhan-kc3gf 4 года назад

Hey bro. Can we make bowstring by silk line?

@kwatt-engineer796 4 года назад

great video,as always I learned something new . You should be good using epoxy on the threaded screw barrel. West Marine says their testing shows that epoxied machine screw threads are the strongest way to attach screws to a composite. Just a thought, have you tried using french curves instead of trying to freehand a curve? Transfer punches are a great way to locate the center of a hole on a surface . Have you tried brad point drill bits? they are great for making very clean holes in wood . Also, the point helps in getting the drill bit on the center of the hole. Just my 2 cents worth.

@dustinbrinker2733 4 года назад

Will you be doing a full bowfishing bow build from hardware store to finished

@sephiroth1985102514 3 года назад

8:10 I HATE when I put a screw into a drilled hole and I rheem it off.

@davidhendry9087 4 года назад

Hey man. Love your videos. Only thing I think you should start doing is crediting your music in the descriptions. A lot of it is great, and I would love to add it to my work playlist, but you don't tell us what it is

@ST-mi8jl 4 года назад

Who ever reads this You are a good person and I love you Stay safe

@paulwood53 4 года назад

why would you ever use brass crews?

@dazzamac70 4 года назад

Hey Kramer, just wondering as the Riser doesn't flex like a limb or a one-piece bow, would you concider something like ARALDITE epoxy to be OK to laminate wood together for a riser instead of EA40 or the like? Cheers from Australia!🤙👊

@dazzamac70 4 года назад

@@kramerammonsarchery thanks!!! BTW: What's the shelf life for EA40? I've read that some epoxies only have a shelf life of about 12 months - as I don't need much, I certainly don't want it to go to waste if I buy some...🤔

@MysticRift 4 года назад

Hi Kramer, I got to shoot my first bow today and I enjoyed it I think I need to work on my form cause I find that my arrows aren't really flying straight. But let me know what you think P.S you have heavily inspired me to start shooting and I'm glad that I'm finally getting to start.

@goodolfashion 4 года назад

For form help I'd look up Jeff Kavanagh and NuSensei, GrizzlyJim is also a good teacher :)

@MysticRift 4 года назад

@@goodolfashion Thanks! ill check them out

@syrenaan252 4 года назад

Nice job, also grab a 60lbs resistance band and use that to train those back muscles. Even though it's 60lbs it doesn't really feel like that much and strain grows the further its stretched just like a bow. I started with a 35lbs draw weight and now that seems easy after intentionally training with a band myself.

@troytroyus913 3 года назад

Fun vid. Bought one of your armguards, its awesome. :)

@adrianalonso2810 4 года назад

I've never shot a bow in my life but thats prob bc im 12 lol. This vid was so good.

@oldgrumpyhunter 4 года назад

The heavier riser should help with the shot noise.

@firstnamelastname9013 4 года назад

Good job but as a joiner i cringed when i saw the ply going in some nice white oak would be sweet : ) thx for posting and keep up the good work.

@firstnamelastname9013 4 года назад

@@kramerammonsarchery Look forward to your next video thank you for the effort you put in 👍

@goodolfashion 4 года назад

It's so rare that I watch whole videos nowadays... I can never skip yours when I start ;) ! Always entertaining and surprisingly relaxing watching you work ! Cheers from Canada

@kelseyjeffery807 4 года назад

You should try to make at bow from Skyrim

@TheDude-pr6ug 4 года назад

I need a Kramer trance music play list that sh!t makes me think of BEANS n GLOWSTICKS!! 😜🎶🤪

@aggelosmoulianitis4965 4 года назад

I'm the first one that I liked the video

@Ace-zb5xr 4 года назад

Why don't you just plug the hole and create a new one for the threaded insert?

@Ace-zb5xr 4 года назад

@@kramerammonsarchery lol What do you mean?! Just put glue in the hole and stick a dowel in there, then drill a new hole when it dries. The threaded insert is self tapping, just use a hex key to install it.

@StitchesLovesRats 4 года назад

Apollo by Dream Cave. Good choice! My only small critique is that I'd have picked the part that came just after that buildup. If I may offer a suggestion, Check out the album "Sun" by Thomas Bergersen. My favorites include: Creation of Earth. Final Frontier. Always Mine.

@Gumbus556 3 года назад

Thomas Bergersen and tsfh are amazing you have good taste

@StitchesLovesRats 3 года назад

@@Gumbus556 I know. I have the best taste. That's why I love my music taste so much XD

@nakoawarrior3186 11 месяцев назад

Plywood's only strength is on the top and bottom,.....there is no end strength? See if you made the plywood your self with epoxy it would have been a solid piece of wood. Wow,.. 25#@29 that stink's but the riser will probably hold together for that bow. I was going to lengthen mine its 80# @29 well a few over 80 but it's a Bob Morrison custom bow. It's supposed to be so many pounds @26,....but at 29 its about 83# It hits hard its smooth it only shoots wood arrows because it blows the tips out of aluminum arrows. I'd be afraid to hunt Grizzly with it I have always had bad luck shooting it,......I was getting ready to drop the buck and I was tossed 30 feet in the air by a bull,.......then an even bigger buck at 20 yards,...I shot all 6 arrows they hit limbs and landed under him and he just stood there and sniffed them then picked them up and bit them in two. Then kept smelling them,... probably because they were cedar?

@thecarnut9899 4 года назад

That riser looks an old sinoarts bow I had, it broke the first day

@juanpuentemayer7599 4 года назад

Hi kramer, im form argentina and i really love yours videos. Congrats and go on!!

@josephtreadlightly5686 Год назад

Nice experiment about pushing the boundaries for the right reasons. I have 3 sets of ILF limbs with 2 strings I just got from you over the last month. My form was pretty good until the last couple of weeks of weather got crappy. Right now I'm converting an old 19" Custom wood riser into ILF. I have a set of limbs that r about 5 pounds less to buildup until the weather warms & I can switch back & forth until I settle on 1 riser. By the way, your Shatterproof glove is a big improvement to those of us that refuse to use a tab. With the button strap u can get the desired fit even if your fingers feel like they r a small in diameter for the glove. Something about that great design that just works 👍.

@robertmooney1492 6 месяцев назад

Its occured to me that kramer is the consummate professional. While i appreciate the organic nature of other RU-vid bowyers such as clay, dreamcraft, and santana, i also appreciate the slickness of kramers editing skills.

@alexsandrawise1344 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for leaving in your mistakes! They are just as informative as your intentional lessons and I find them very endearing. I love your DIY videos so far keep at it! It makes me feel like maybe I could try this?

@uncletello 4 года назад

You should put a funnel on the end of your dust collection hose when using your belt sander.

@JoeBush2006 4 года назад

Kramer, any thoughts about building riser extensions to accomplish the same goal? You could possibly make 1", 2", and 3" extensions. You would need double hardware to fasten the extension to the riser and then the limb to the extension, other than that do you see any reason this would be unreasonably unsafe?

@renjither6148 4 года назад

Hi there ,,,, i really like your videos ,,, and i really like to make my own bow , but i dont know about the size and measurement of the riser ,,, can you make a video about that ,,, the angle , size of the riser , mid point , please please please...... Hope you will do that......

@human8903 3 года назад

The volume turned off at 11:00

@wallacev2267 4 года назад

Good job Kramer, just a little note. Old pallets have good wood to make risers. Your friend WRV

@michaellewis7758 3 года назад

Quick question, why expoxy the wood,rather than titebond ? (Or other wood glue)

@BlazingShackles Год назад

Aha you fell for the old reverse threading thingy. We all do but next time you encounter too much resistance, think in reverse.

@skylerarroniz5686 3 года назад

So a longer riser equals less draw weight 🤔 And a shorter riser equals more draw weight which equals more power

@theephemeralglade1935 4 года назад

Don't worry. If you screwed up (pun intended), you'll find out when you draw the bow...

@lucifurmorningstar9304 4 года назад

looking to make my own riser .... but where do i buy the limb holders from ? the 1's u had problem with??

@jamie-ox8sg 6 месяцев назад

Love the video you seem accident prone you broke a riser and almost a camera but love it informative and fun

@luisfelipesaldivar5100 4 года назад

Would be interesting to see how fast can the arrows fly with that 20ish pound bow, in the footage looks very fast

@lillowisp 4 года назад

first? :D

@Bigge9505 4 года назад

Ahh man you got it

@ST-mi8jl 4 года назад

Yes you are

@TracyPicabia 4 года назад

For a first attempt that wasn't an unmitigated disaster because he's learnt a ton of things NOT to do.

@Emanemoston 4 года назад

I see epoxy, but why not wood glue? As always, awesome video!

@lucifurmorningstar9304 3 года назад

if i make a riser 4" inch shorter sould it make a + poundage ???

@seadhead9522 4 года назад

I would like to send a picture of a bow I made. More will it bow please

@jask5097 4 года назад

I'd love to see you shoot an AR15, I have no doubt you'd be able to make one too.

@cheeseymann 4 года назад

So I've had a concept I'm wondering if youd take a crack at. I'd love to build a longbow on a compound bow riser. Hand made limbs and all that but with a compound bow riser youd be able to add all sorts of counterweights and sights. I mean, I tend to shoot instinctive anyhow but to be able to mount sights on a longbow would be awesome

@cheeseymann 4 года назад

@@kramerammonsarchery awesome, I cant wait to see what you come up with.

@WesW3187 4 года назад

I saw a documentary on the lifting of the Mary Rose, Henry VIII’s famous ship, which rolled over and sank in harbour. They found hundreds of long bows on her, plus the bones of various crew. They found the archers all had detached clavicles (I think it was) from the great stress of pulling on the bows, presumably from a young age.

@N0rnagest 4 года назад

Nice work ... im surprised that it dropped #20 too, but a beautiful job... Im also wondering why you didn't 'radius' the shelf a little ? It looks completely flat. Doesn't it interfere with nock points on the string?

@dottedlineenigmas4469 4 года назад

Since you were using plywood, I fully expected you to use a wood stabilizing resin, (like BVV.) You need to do that for unstable woods like soft woods and plywoods, especially when tapping threads for metal bolts in said woods. These resins require mild heat treating to make them cure. Like your videos a lot. I would never do what you do though. I am too rigid and uneasy... Keep up the good work.

@emcllns 4 года назад

A master. A hobby is putting together preformed pieces by instruction. An art is passionate and knows what parts are needed with no instruction. Applying one's own flare of design. A master of his or her craft creates even the smallest parts needed for the build and design within a state of focus that can only be felt when you are doing the thing you love most in the world.

@heikekittel181 4 года назад

You shoot splitfinger ???🤔🤔

@denniscleveland669 4 года назад

At least you had a piece of plywood that seemed void less.

@Incognito_juan 3 года назад

I need to know this sounds track! Anyone got a name ?

@toratamashii0986 2 года назад

Is there a template for the riser of the takedown bow

@jeffreypayne5459 3 года назад

Freaking sweet video! I will be doing this! I noticed you copied the angle on the riser from the old one. I was wondering if a slight angle adjustment cold offset loss of poundage? As usual, I find your videos inspiring! Thank you

@gizmonomono 4 года назад

Try not to move your head to fit your anchor, just draw to it.

@maurolimaok 4 года назад

This channel is awesome! I hope it grows a lot more. I don't have how to make it here, by now, in Brazil, but wuold like to see some "takedown" stuff of your mind, or those tiny independence bows, in your own design!

@lawrencethemain3343 2 года назад

that riser is not broken... there is a way to fix easy

@Thestripper1 3 года назад

A longer riser will give a longer draw length to right?

@pawibuda 4 года назад

Just started getting back into archery and got my first bow and buying your strings. You make a line of takedown bows and I'm in! Also please don't tell me that was the ghost, I just got it, and saw this.

@Loth440 4 года назад

One thing I would suggest is build an adjustable angle drilling jig for future riser builds. Love your videos.

@Loth440 4 года назад

@George W. McClintock Yeah you can build a setup from scrap plywood and a little bit of hardware, not expensive at all.

@steveo3785 4 года назад

By laminating wood aren't you making plywood anyway? OK plywood is cross grained and usually laminated wood grain runs in same direction. Still enjoy watching your vids.

@gawoodbridge 4 года назад

Why did you run your laminates the way you did? It looks like they are 90 degrees off of the way the original riser was built.

@gawoodbridge 4 года назад

@@kramerammonsarchery The reason I asked is that to me, all the stress on the bolt insert is being placed ACROSS the plys in the plywood. That is the weakest part of any plywood. If the laminates had been run perpendicular to the insert, the insert would of passed through at least one laminate before it hit the plywood. So if the plywood failed THROUGH the plys, (very unlikely), the outer laminate would have supported the treads. This may not matter on a 24 lb bow, but moving up in draw weight, it could cause a problem. But then I may be all wet and being too conservative. I enjoy the channel very much. Keep up the good work.

@Tsieta 4 года назад

Can you try a Turkish bow in a video.

@k1nk1ne 4 года назад

I recently made a longbow and broke it because I did not tilter the limbs well and converted it into a takedown bow. 9-10 kilos. Thinking to make it more powerfull.

@joelsourdin3915 8 месяцев назад

Je suis effaré du nombre d'erreurs que vous commettez dans cette réalisation

@fleigmichael1986 4 года назад

Everytime exicted to watch your newest video. Sry, for being late to the party, other timezones :D Greetz from overseas ;)

@emmadahdah2205 4 года назад

dude this video is so cool, i love how make it Kramer Ammons I've been watching u since u had 60 000 subs Btw I made a bow and the bend on one side is way bigger than the other one what do I do P.S ur so cool with ur imagination.