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I destroyed part of my mill because I needed a flycutter 

Jeremy Makes Things
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I finally bit the bullet and removed the stuck Collet Chuck from my Index Model 40 Milling machine. And I made some Brown and Sharpe 9 taper tooling. I also broke my lathe, and then fixed my lathe.
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@DanBrideau
@DanBrideau 4 месяца назад
Did you try tying a string between that chuck and the door knob? Slam the door shut, and it should have popped right out. 😊
@user-jr2ue9nu6y
@user-jr2ue9nu6y 2 месяца назад
ROFL like my tooth as a kid
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 4 месяца назад
Hi Jeremy, Love your version of gardening with the needle de-scaler and plants.
@michaelallen1432
@michaelallen1432 4 месяца назад
Had to do it sooner or later. I was totally holding my breath as you were boring that out. Literally at the point where I was thinking "ok, time to stop and just buy a reamer", you stopped and bought a reamer. 🤣 I was actually expecting you to find significant damage to the surface inside. I was thinking there was a good chance that it had spun in the taper and friction welded itself in place. But it looks like it just had some corrosion. Thanks for showing not just what went right but what went wrong. That helps those of us watching avoid wasting our time on simple mistakes, so we can instead waste our time on new and innovative mistakes.
@tadamb1
@tadamb1 4 месяца назад
You missed the opportunity to pretend the fly cutter got stuck in the spindle at the end of the video. Otherwise, quite interesting. Can't wait to see more of the Jeep project.
@Mrcaffinebean
@Mrcaffinebean 4 месяца назад
First time viewer here. The second you chucked an old drive shaft into your lathe I became a subscriber. My kind of guy!
@Blondihacks
@Blondihacks 3 месяца назад
Nice work on repairing that spindle! That was a difficult operation.
@JeremyMakesThings
@JeremyMakesThings 3 месяца назад
Thanks Quinn!
@kglesq1
@kglesq1 3 месяца назад
That was great from beginning to end. I love the use of 'junk' material to build useful things. BTW your narration is excellent. Subscribed.
@scroungasworkshop4663
@scroungasworkshop4663 4 месяца назад
Well done Jeremy! If it’s any consolation it took me 20 years to finally get the screw on chuck off my lathe. Cheers mate, Stuart 🇦🇺
@1crazypj
@1crazypj 4 месяца назад
I never got the screw on chuck off my Colchester, ended up selling it with it still stuck (did some major turning with intermittent cut that tightened it up way too much) It did make enough money to pay for the lathe though plus, I couldn't ship it 4,500 miles
@ggray2011
@ggray2011 4 месяца назад
I've been looking forward to this repair since you first introduced the milling machine with the stuck collet chuck. Thanks for sharing.
@steamfan7147
@steamfan7147 4 месяца назад
That's my life in a nutshell, 2 hour project turns into 3-1/2 day machine repair saga.🤣
@jeremytodd4906
@jeremytodd4906 4 месяца назад
Me too!
@melgross
@melgross 2 месяца назад
It’s frustrating. We’ve all been there. But hey, you got a video out of it! So all is not lost. Keep struggling. I can tell you that the results are much more satisfying when you do.
@fna-wrightengineering
@fna-wrightengineering 4 месяца назад
Well done! That was indeed a lot of work, but I feel like this is one of those things that, a couple of months from now, you'll think to yourself, "How the hell did I get on with that collet chuck for so long?" Now the funny part is, you'll probably end up making a new B&S #9 collet chuck for some other project down the road. At least you won't get that one stuck! Also, I get unreasonably excited to see someone using a J.T. Slocomb micrometer. I've got a large collection of them, and rarely see them in the wild. (If you ever need/want to restore yours, I've got a video detailing the process)
@JeremyMakesThings
@JeremyMakesThings 4 месяца назад
I’ve got two Slocumb micrometers, the other one appears to be older (and has smaller markings on it). It’s one of those tools that, for whatever reason, just has the “right” feel to it.
@Pappaoh
@Pappaoh 4 месяца назад
My comments are as follows: 1 excellent project and sub-projects. As a fan of your channel, I knew this day was coming, and I'm so glad you fixed that old machine rather than doing the sensible thing. 2. Your use of dog shit material from the river bed never disappoints. That steady rest is Gucci as hell. 3. Your power hair @0:11 inspires me to be a better and more potent man. I mean, I've worked my ass off much of my life, but that hair and those pseudo chops help me see I could be more. Thank you for that, sir, and thanks for another great vid.
@benjefferies7123
@benjefferies7123 3 месяца назад
🤣🤣🤣
@CL053DC45K37
@CL053DC45K37 2 месяца назад
Man I bet you feel good after all that work. You now have full use if your mill and I'm betting the rigidity is way better now and that is going to show up in your future projects.
@charlieromeo7663
@charlieromeo7663 4 месяца назад
Nice recovery, and I really like the idea of repurposing the axle shafts and other parts. Great job.
@peteb2
@peteb2 3 месяца назад
Out of all this i have to say i am impressed. It's been awhile since i set foot in my little hobby workshop where i make perfectly good pieces of metal into utterly useless things. And now i am dealing with having had total knee join surgery done by a CNC machine! Subscribed!
@Heasyy
@Heasyy 4 месяца назад
Thanks for taking the time and effort to make these videos, they are really great and I learn a lot from you.
@tuck1963
@tuck1963 4 месяца назад
I have an INDEX model 45. Searching for info is how I found this channel. Subscribed immediately!
@rickpalechuk4411
@rickpalechuk4411 4 месяца назад
Anchorlube.... I put that s**t on everything 🌭🌭😁😁
@billgilbride7972
@billgilbride7972 4 месяца назад
Inspirational! Fantastic finish with all the tooling fixes and such. I feel less worried about my 5c holding devices addiction. Thanks!
@Trouble-oq4ze
@Trouble-oq4ze 4 дня назад
Love your recycling program. Enjoy your videoography!
@jeffschroeder4805
@jeffschroeder4805 3 месяца назад
The joy of the journey is real and the destination turned out to be quite worthwhile as well.
@JoeyG1973
@JoeyG1973 4 месяца назад
I am constantly lightly cleaning my 55 with my brown and sharp 9 taper. That bs9 taper has done wonders to the spindle accuracy since I got it.
@JohnThawley
@JohnThawley 4 месяца назад
This is the video I’ve been waiting for. Well worth the wait and even better than expected. Bravo!
@TalRohan
@TalRohan 4 месяца назад
This is the side project video that finished up with a great flycutter and some other useful stuff. I bet that was satisfying when the last stuck bit came out of the quill , just the cylinder you managed to machine out was awesome. Whenever I have had to spend a lot on a single use tool, I always feel justified when it goes the way it should and even better when it finds other uses ...Ive had my share of wishing I hadn't bought the tool cause something else went wrong right afterwards ....or worse the tool broke.
@warrenjones744
@warrenjones744 4 месяца назад
Damn Jeremy, and here I was thinking earlier this week am I the only person in the world that struggles with "everything I own is worn out and has to be fixed to use it". Nice to see I have company! Did you ever determine exactly why the taper was stuck in there in the first place? Nevertheless nice job and now you have full capability restored to the Index. That's worth the time any day! cheers
@JeremyMakesThings
@JeremyMakesThings 4 месяца назад
From what I can tell from other people’s experience, these tapers like to get stuck sometimes (probably a combination of over tightening and leaving it too long). Even in normal use, it takes some force to get the tool out. It seems like there’s a reason they don’t use this taper any more.
@erik_dk842
@erik_dk842 4 месяца назад
@@JeremyMakesThings The shallower the taper angle, the harder it bites. Ask any flat bottomed boat owner who's run aground.
@t0mn8r35
@t0mn8r35 3 месяца назад
That was a very difficult and impressive job.
@ollysworkshop
@ollysworkshop 4 месяца назад
Looks like breaking the lathe was the best thing for it, maybe I need to break mine 🤔 looks like the mill is now a whole lot more versatile as well. Doesn't turn out that well very often! Also I love your use of the rustiest piece of metal on the planet to make your drawbar.👍
@JeremyMakesThings
@JeremyMakesThings 4 месяца назад
“Broken” is a spectrum. It went from “a little broken” to “too broken.” There’s a lot more that’s a little broken that hasn’t forced me to fix it yet.
@cyclebuster
@cyclebuster 3 месяца назад
gotta love the model 40. Someday I want to restore mine, but I want a white seamless machine, possibly powder coated. I use mine a lot.
@adeeponionbrah
@adeeponionbrah 4 месяца назад
Nice job friend. You showed tenacity.
@henrikhv5084
@henrikhv5084 4 месяца назад
long time coming, but sure worth waiting for. I think you did a great job, and thank you for sharing ;-) cheers from Denmark
@therabbits168
@therabbits168 3 месяца назад
The cascade of problems is great!😂
@williamfields1021
@williamfields1021 4 месяца назад
I'd watch you for the dry humor alone...
@Rubbernecker
@Rubbernecker 4 месяца назад
I agree!!!
@amok42
@amok42 4 месяца назад
It must be great being able to use your mill to it's full capability finally.
@XXLkielbasa
@XXLkielbasa 3 месяца назад
Index is still a company. I just lost my index 55 to shop fire by arson. You can send them the quill to clean up the bs9 and cut it for r8, and you can use both types of tools
@dougmac777
@dougmac777 3 месяца назад
That was a lot of work, but I enjoyed it!!! Thanks1
@marcsimonsen1578
@marcsimonsen1578 4 месяца назад
I can feel your pain with that spindle repair!!!
@brucematthews6417
@brucematthews6417 4 месяца назад
At least you made the most out of the setups with the extra tooling. That's a good start towards the eventual compliment of stuff. But yeah, I can just imagine the number of hours bleeding away between beginning and final sigh of relief....
@bwizard7949
@bwizard7949 3 месяца назад
First time viewer, subscribed. Been procrastinating getting my SB 7 shaper operational, you convinced me to man up. . . thanks for taking the time to record, edit, post your work. Good job.
@christopherbill8537
@christopherbill8537 4 месяца назад
1:25 - Scissor-style knurlers are one of those tools that you will not regret making.
@camillosteuss
@camillosteuss 4 месяца назад
True, they beat the plain knurling tool by a galactic margin...
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 2 месяца назад
Mr Jeremy, I really enjoyed watching this struggle, your approach seems to be very similar to mine..... if it ain't one thing, it's another, Best Wishes From Florida, Paul
@Calligraphybooster
@Calligraphybooster 4 месяца назад
I didn’t check what you did and didn’t try… but my first thought was improvising a firing pin and end cap to fire a blank cartidge on it. (Consider a 1 mm vent hole, use a face screen etc etc and don’t forget a wooden cushion for it to land on in case of success). Anyway… you succeeded as you did and I enjoyed watching.
@larrykent196
@larrykent196 4 месяца назад
On my fly cutters I always grind a notch in the bit to put at lest on of the set screw into. It won't slip out. I sure feel safer using it. I have seen them fly out, probably why the call them fly cutters. Cheers!
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian 4 месяца назад
“That was tough”, but oh so worthwhile. Well done for a brilliant result. 👏👏👍😀
@juyfjgfjhgfjugf4702
@juyfjgfjhgfjugf4702 4 месяца назад
thank you
@PuchMaxi
@PuchMaxi 2 месяца назад
Pretty fly!
@marvtomson574
@marvtomson574 3 месяца назад
I had a situation like this one time. For the life of me I couldn't get it out and was getting ready to cut it off, as like here, then I thought about using the rosebud torch to heat it up. And then try knocking it out with a shoe horn wedge and hammer. THAT ACTUALLY WORKED! It deformed the collet a tiny bit and about a month later ended up snapping when it dropped onto the work bench table. Not sure if they are made out of hardened sping steel, one piece cast and formed steel?
@Craneman4100w
@Craneman4100w 3 месяца назад
Looks like fun, subscribed
@sklarworks3137
@sklarworks3137 3 месяца назад
This vid is great! Thanks!
@garyevans9868
@garyevans9868 3 месяца назад
Another great video Jeremy 👍l really enjoyed watching your videos as l find them very informative and entertaining, you seem to be able to make almost anything from nothing but scrap. Keep it up mate, Gary from the UK 🇬🇧
@ironhead65
@ironhead65 4 месяца назад
What an adventure! You are a brave one sir. I was on the edge of my seat, even having read about this adventure on Craig’s Workshop discord! Nothing like seeing it, I was so enthralled and just HAD to see the end!
@alangreen5858
@alangreen5858 4 месяца назад
That is the exact same method I used to remove a jammed morse taper sleeve from my mill spindle, right down to buying the correct reamer to finish off the job. Nicely done!
@martindietrich2011
@martindietrich2011 3 месяца назад
I hsd a similar priblem in my lsthe. The xhuck was stuck on the spindle nose. I solved the problem with e lobg lever for turning , heating the ouside with a inductive heater an coolibg the inner part with cold spray ....
@TomHaynes
@TomHaynes 4 месяца назад
That model T drive shaft is pre-nuclear steel worth about $15/lb
@erik_dk842
@erik_dk842 4 месяца назад
Back when they didn't know how to engineer for planned failure, so they just made it damn good.
@Cjarka_
@Cjarka_ 4 месяца назад
OOO WEee I was looking forward to this vid ever since you mentioned the collet chuck was stuck you did a way nicer job removing a stuck taper than I did, I cocked up 1/3 of the circumference of the tapered bore but luckily only half way the length of it so it's still plenty precise
@keithjurena9319
@keithjurena9319 4 месяца назад
Had a similar stuck shaft, only this was due to aluminum corroding inside chrome moly steel. Seat post on a bicycle. Tried freezing the aluminum with dry ice and even liquid nitrogen. Ended up dissolving it with sodium hydroxide.
@erik_dk842
@erik_dk842 4 месяца назад
I tried that in vain
@XXLkielbasa
@XXLkielbasa 3 месяца назад
I also have a right angle/horizontal head attachment. For index 55. Not sure if it will fit your model. But it’s for sale. Extremely rare
@billkirkland8025
@billkirkland8025 4 месяца назад
Nice job Jeremy!!!
@Trouble-oq4ze
@Trouble-oq4ze 3 дня назад
I am so glad to know I am not the only one to have a pair of long nose pliers with a shunted nose. The nose broke, HAD to be ground to an overall symmetrical profile. Just could not get myself to throw them away. The finish on the fly cutter is fine... she may not be the prettiest girl at the Ball, but boy can she....
@MyMiniHomeWorkshop
@MyMiniHomeWorkshop 4 месяца назад
Ah the joys of owning and working with old machines, you got some awesome-looking finishes on some of those parts, nice outcome. 👍
@chrisbartolo4308
@chrisbartolo4308 4 месяца назад
My Sheldon No. 0 horizontal mill has a B&S 9 spindle and the arbor was absolutely stuck when I got if after sitting for decades. Wedges from opposite sides did the trick easily. Hold a hammer on one side, strike the other and repeat a few times...like separating a drill chuck from an arbor.
@JeremyMakesThings
@JeremyMakesThings 4 месяца назад
Yep, I tried wedges. The should on the back of the collet chuck was curved and made it hard to get them to seat, so they just bent out ward.
@chrisbartolo4308
@chrisbartolo4308 4 месяца назад
@@JeremyMakesThings I can see that. When you put the carbide in the vise I was thinking you were going to square that up for wedges at first...might have been too much of a gap though for normal wedges. Stuck stuff sucks!
@erik_dk842
@erik_dk842 4 месяца назад
@@chrisbartolo4308 With the spindle removed, he could put it into a bored throug block, sawed in half, and put one half on an anvil, the other on top, and strike it with a big hammer, turning the spindle in the process. Like when you remove steering ball joints, only the have a much steeper taper. Same principle works for drinking glasses stuck together - hit them on the side with a wooden kitchen utensil, and they come right apart without damage.
@canonsonico3752
@canonsonico3752 4 месяца назад
Your channel name is real, jeremy *infact* makes things.
@bruceanderson9461
@bruceanderson9461 2 месяца назад
It took me a long time to find out if a taper should be lubricated or dry in use. The answer is as dry as you can make it. If you lubricate a tapered drill bit you will bend or break off its tang. This information comes from Boeing.
@eternaloptimist2840
@eternaloptimist2840 3 месяца назад
That was funny - broken mill, broken lathe, I thought "next will be a shaper" and sure enough ... I suppose it might have been a surface grinder.
@JeremyMakesThings
@JeremyMakesThings 3 месяца назад
What is it they say about shapers? Something like “you can make anything with a shaper, especially if your lathe and mill are both broken.” I think that’s how it goes. 🤣
@pauldorman
@pauldorman 4 месяца назад
A tight-fitting copper bar (tapered maybe) that sticks out 5-10 cm inserted into the collet, then submerging the lot in liquid nitrogen might have been an interesting experiment :)
@JeremyMakesThings
@JeremyMakesThings 4 месяца назад
I’ll give you that one- I didn’t try that, and there’s a (slim) chance it could have worked.
@Man-in-da-shed
@Man-in-da-shed 4 месяца назад
Jeremy you call 2 1/2 years procrastination, I still ain’t put my 45 back together. Still some of the close up video you shot will be helpful when I do. You must be well satisfied with all that effort.
@rallymax2
@rallymax2 4 месяца назад
Big win. Congrats.
@craigtpat
@craigtpat 4 месяца назад
I have seen bushings / bearing housings being removed by welding a few beads on the inside. When the filler metal cools the base metal shrinks. Neat trick. A possible solution after boring out the spindle.
@sacriptex5870
@sacriptex5870 4 месяца назад
Dude you actually fixed everything!! Conglatulations! Amazing video and talent
@theradarguy
@theradarguy 4 месяца назад
When my collet got stuck like that I used a large bearing puller with success.
@martin-vv9lf
@martin-vv9lf 2 месяца назад
yep those hydraulic pullers are a deadly animal. sliding hammers are a great thing too. they would produce exactly the kind of shock force that is the opposite to what seated the arbor.
@nickkoop4447
@nickkoop4447 4 месяца назад
Honestly really happy for you to have gotten your mill spindle back
@lennyf1957
@lennyf1957 3 месяца назад
6:00 that's steady rest looks like it was discovered in an archaeological dig.
@JeremyMakesThings
@JeremyMakesThings 3 месяца назад
Junk build: Lathe Steady Rest ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bHTCAfw7ZnI.html
@erik_dk842
@erik_dk842 4 месяца назад
The BS #9 reamer costs *$220* 0.9″ Small End, 1.155″ Large End, 1″ Shank, 6-1/8″ Flute, Brown and Sharpe Taper Reamer #9
@junkyardsearcher6407
@junkyardsearcher6407 4 месяца назад
Absolutely beautiful work!! You show such a variety of skills, your fun to watch.
@chauvinemmons
@chauvinemmons 3 месяца назад
Don't you love when a plan just comes together
@jaykop2611
@jaykop2611 4 месяца назад
Drilling through and using ice spray to shrink the holder could have worked.
@wizrom3046
@wizrom3046 4 месяца назад
If a tapered fit device spins it can friction weld itself into the receptacle. I think yours might have have a small area welded in, basically you have to machine it out and re cut the female taper (as you did). My big old drill press has a morse taper that refuses to come out for the last few years... hopefully I can get it out without as much work (famous last words) 🤔
@JustinMiales
@JustinMiales 4 месяца назад
Some heat to get that Chuck out or if you can get a thing we use for body work we call it a slap Hammer it's a weight on a slide and you like a hammer you hit it down and it'll pull dents out of the car pull bearings out
@Andrew_Fernie
@Andrew_Fernie 4 месяца назад
That was as stuck as the backplate on my lathe was stuck to the spindle. I ended up turning it off in my mini lathe. That 5" diameter backplate took many hours to get rid of 5 thou at a time 🙄
@RustyInventions-wz6ir
@RustyInventions-wz6ir 4 месяца назад
Very interesting. Nice work
@carlwhite8225
@carlwhite8225 4 месяца назад
Jeremy, new guy here and i love your channel, Thanks.
@jacqueso8424
@jacqueso8424 4 месяца назад
Your shaper as a backup machine saved you to fix lathe which in turn fixed your milling machind. Good collection, though i wouldnt have gone through the pains of making such a big fly cutter. At the edge of your machine's capabilities? Otherwise great repair job wish i had an inspection camera like that
@Watchyn_Yarwood
@Watchyn_Yarwood 4 месяца назад
Dude, you never cease to amaze me!
@chriss8206
@chriss8206 4 месяца назад
Ball joint separator
@JeremyMakesThings
@JeremyMakesThings 4 месяца назад
Yep. Tried it.
@chriss8206
@chriss8206 3 месяца назад
@JeremyMakesThings I also used ac refrigerant once to shrink a fitted part. Nowadays you can use canned air upside down. Also pressing it further in can make them easier to remove. It causes the micro ridges to become misaligned.
@anandarochisha
@anandarochisha 2 месяца назад
Did you try turning the mill upside down to let gravity assist You ? 😊
@justtim9767
@justtim9767 2 месяца назад
Nice.
@deancoley7987
@deancoley7987 4 месяца назад
Can't imagine the cost of what you have made in this video, if you go as to purchase, but sure the quality would not be as good. The time spent is irrelevant I suppose, the achievement is far greater, fantastic work as usual
@erik_dk842
@erik_dk842 4 месяца назад
The reamer alone costs $220
@The-Muninn
@The-Muninn 4 месяца назад
Great job, thanks for posting. Take care.
@charlescarter7496
@charlescarter7496 4 месяца назад
you should use a follow rest on long pieces
@Knonk-nh3ir
@Knonk-nh3ir 3 месяца назад
tough, but you earned a sub and thumbs up.
@robertburns2415
@robertburns2415 4 месяца назад
skill is the great equalizer. you have arrived.
@tonyray91
@tonyray91 4 месяца назад
Well done, I have a pulley stuck on a motor shaft that might get similar treatment today if my 8T home brew hydraulic press doesn’t persuade it to comply.
@digitalradiohacker
@digitalradiohacker 3 месяца назад
I have only just come across your channel - Subscribed. By the way, with the awful noises made by the drilling - there is a kind of "toothpaste green" lube that kind of anchors itself to surfaces which seems to help - I forget the name of it just this minute.
@JeremyMakesThings
@JeremyMakesThings 3 месяца назад
I’ll look into that. 😆
@N.Cognito
@N.Cognito 4 месяца назад
Wow. It took both of your lathes to get the chuck out. Glad it went well.
@sidetrackmetalworks2058
@sidetrackmetalworks2058 4 месяца назад
Well done! You handled Murpheys law splendidly!
@craigtate5930
@craigtate5930 4 месяца назад
I can't believe how stuck it was! I will try to remember not to bitch when my BS9 is tough to remove
@JeremyMakesThings
@JeremyMakesThings 4 месяца назад
It seems there’s a reason they don’t use this taper any more
@craigtate5930
@craigtate5930 4 месяца назад
@@JeremyMakesThings true that
@foogee9971
@foogee9971 4 месяца назад
thats a great one! thank u! 👍
@624Dudley
@624Dudley 4 месяца назад
Jeremy, that cutter is mo’ fly. 😄
@MrEFHATCH1990
@MrEFHATCH1990 Месяц назад
Have you tried gazing at it lovingly?
@mastasolo
@mastasolo 4 месяца назад
I'm sure that #9 reamer will pay for itself in time
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