@@willis_squintrillis Maybe hes referring to the slope distance. For a mini ramp, as you can see, its very shallow, like a launch ramp. They cut the forms wayyy to mellow. Ends up being practically a bank ramp. Infact, the board doesnt even hit the coping when they rock lol. But yeah, still a mini ramp. The first mini i made as a kid was like this one. No right or wrong!!! Jank shits fun too