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For today’s video the title says it all! Does Clear Ice have a clear measurable benefit other than just looking nice in your drink? Is it actually worth the effort? Today we endeavor to answer that question!
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@freepour 2 года назад

Just for the sake of transparency. We weighed the ice ahead of the experiment. You’ll notice I say that they both start at exactly 80g each, the only way I’d know that is if they’d been weighed. We didn’t think it necessary to show but some of you have raised concerns about this.

@poltergeistx 2 года назад

I was just going to rewatch the video because I thought I missed the initial ice mass, thanks!

@TheRockyLeonFan 2 года назад

Loving Buzz Lightyear in the background. Never noticed it before. Is it new?

@CreepyHisoka 2 года назад

if you want to measure a difference in density, you shouldnt make them the same weight but the same size instead.clear ice beeing less dense means the cube was larger, which results in more surface area, making your experiment kind of flawed

@saschazandevakili7321 2 года назад

I think you will see a more significant difference if you wait longer than 10 minutes. The outer layer of “cloudy ice” is similar to clear ice because the impurities/solutes get pushed to the middle as it freezes. So at the beginning I would guess that the two types of ice melt at similar rates, while as you get towards the middle the clear ice will continue at a consistent rate of melting while the “cloudy” ice will start to melt more rapidly as you approach the impurities 🤷🏽‍♂️

@boozeontherocks 2 года назад

This was clearly and educational piece designed at mythbusting the preconceived notion of clarity vs cloudy ice. However Clear ice looks fantastic in a drink and that's all that matters :) love it!!!

@jeffreyim 2 года назад

You guys were quite thorough checking both the ice cube mass and also the final volume! I feel like the only thing that is concerning is the varying shape of the ice cubes. Ideally they'd be produced using the same molds, except one is done via directional freezing. I find your results convincing nonetheless.

@jordanfield111 2 года назад

I suspect the discrepancy between final mass and difference in volume is because more of the initial mass of the cloudy ice was from trapped gases which would just get released into the air.

@smokeytiki3185 2 года назад

Great video! I've had many heated discussions with a friend, over the importance of ice clarity.

@ManInArea 2 года назад

Lol! “It’s not now that you spit on it.”

@RobsHomeBar 2 года назад

Settled! Clear ice = better! :P

@franzfanz 2 года назад

I would suggest that the inconsistency between the observed difference between the weight loss of the cube and the increased dilution would be due to escaping air from the cloudy one. The air pockets don't contribute to dilution after all. Also, this could be an argument towards using cloudy ice for shaking: faster and better chilling with no real increase in dilution. Maybe also more air introduced to the cocktail for better aeration?

@studieslessonstheoryetc141 2 года назад

Air doesn’t dilute, but it also doesn’t weigh anything measurable. The cube that weighed 5g less contributed little extra dilution, that’s what’s surprising.

@chipsclassiccocktails1458 2 года назад

Clear ice is absolutely critical. Thanks for proving me right.

@MrMoney331 2 года назад

I mainly love Clear ice for the look but also it will usually last me a refill or sometimes 2 if I it is big enough and a Saturday night. Cheers Science boys

@manuelrottmann 2 года назад

I think it would be interesting to also do this experiment with shaking. I often have the feeling that clear ice doesnt splinter as much, which could lead to a more noticeable difference

@tobibatiste7859 2 года назад

Really good and well done experiment. Would've liked to see a blind taste test to see if you could notice the difference.

@dtape 2 года назад

Great and fun experiment. I agree and am a firm believer in clear ice being worthwhile for the wow factor regardless of any sort of technical benefits.

@tectonicbrewing4168 2 года назад

Air bubbles inside the cloudy cube has weight, and it is waited as part of the cloudy ice cube. But when air bubbles releace they go to the atmosphere and not contribute to the weight of the whiskey in the glass.

@jhardinger 2 года назад

That volume of air has essentially no weight. It'll be less than 0.1 g for that volume of water.

@andrewwilson1680 2 года назад

I was initially surprised that the difference in mass seems so much more significant than the difference in volume. I wonder if that is because while they were tempering, more of the cloudy ice melted than the clear ice. I'd imagine the difference in mass more closely represents the total melting time (both tempering and in the drink), while the difference in volume is simply representing the portion of melting that occured while in the drink.

@deang1004 2 года назад

The temperature difference seems significant. If so, there is a tradeoff if you want a colder drink.

@fugu4163 2 года назад

Since cloudy ice from the fridge are the only thing ive got. Thats what i am using and it doesnt melt ridiculously rapidly so i dont think i need to consider that too much as a problem.

@EtruskenRaider 2 года назад

With the lower temperature in cloudy ice, it might make it more appealing for a drink that is served up. Whether shaken or stirred an up cocktail could benefit from being colder while being only marginally more dilute.

@ctwiggs 2 года назад

I always thought the allure of clear ice was purely visual, which you address, but it’s interesting to see there’s a dilution difference as well.

@MrDankstar 2 года назад

this psuedo science checks out... i think

@AZombie48 2 года назад

I liked this experiment a lot! The only thing I think is interesting (that I didn't hear you talk about) is that there is no chilling from ice without dilution. So, if the cloudy ice dilutes faster, I'm not surprised that it was the colder drink. That said, it's a balancing act. People can't taste super cold things very well. So clear ice still has the win in my book because it gets the drink to an enjoyable temp in a reasonable time, and it will have more flavor since the drink is a little less chilled and less diluted over time.

@freepour 2 года назад

That is a very good point. I think we have proven that given the few drawbacks Clear Ice wins

@davidbeckett1565 2 года назад

A very informative experiment. I was surprised the cloudy ice did a better job of cooling the drink, though it makes sense that it would do so as it was melting faster. It would be interesting to repeat the experiment with the ice sitting for 15 minutes and again for 20, 25, and 30 minutes. This would look at what happens when the clear ice outside the cloudy impurities has gone and the difference between the two cubes is greater.

@MileHighGrowler 2 года назад

Clear ice looks awesome. If guests are coming over, it's great to have. But if it's just me and I'm making an old fashioned? Cloudy isn't ruining my day. This was interesting to see, though!

@stockicide 2 года назад

It's always fun to actually test things that most people just speculate on. I also like that you called it 'psuedo-science' to head off all the nerds who would point out that you only did one test and not a "statisitically significant" number of trials in laboratory conditions. Your test may not be 'scientific,' but it's good enough to draw conclusions from, and that's what matters!

@WhispyWoods. 2 года назад

Love the lab coat. Clearly this is science! Cheers 🥃

@gabebennett818 2 года назад

I assume the clear ice was slightly smaller, since it’s the same weight but more dense? I would think the more realistic test would be to have two cubes of the same size, not the same weight. Very cool test though!

@pcmacintyre 2 года назад

One gram of water is one milliliter in volume. Metric system.

@chrisnguyen2826 2 года назад

I think the volume difference if off because your pour was off. The mass difference should have equated to a 5mL volume difference because water is 1mL/gram density.

@007brousseauracing6 2 года назад

Hi I really enjoyed your videos where you traveled to other peoples home bars. I have a saloon that I built on my ranch here in Riverside California. If you’d like to shoot one of your videos from there

@Jeroenbdesign 2 года назад

Love this video and info!

@TheMatthewcota 2 года назад

Finally a lab coat! I feel like I can take the results seriously.

@BelovedNL 2 года назад

Yes.

@tzor 2 года назад

I always understood the "looks" argument. I don't buy the dilution argument. If you want cooling sans dilution; use whiskey stones. You want some about of dilution as it is important to the flavor profile of the drink (yes, there is actually "science" behind this, apparently it drives guaiacol to the surface). Given that the dilution was minor after ten minutes (the patience of Job here, letting the drink sit for a whole ten minutes) the cloudy ice is clearly better as the drink is colder and not as much diluted. Compromise; use the cloudy ice for the mixing glass and the clear one for the drinking glass. For those who suggest that one should wait longer than ten minutes; there is no way I'm going to ever let a drink sit that long so it's going to be half consumed (at least) when the ten minutes are up anyway.

@ogreenius 2 года назад

Oh no, Barfly is getting into NFTs too! 😂 Seriously though this was great to see. A simple, useful experiment. No real need anymore to justify clear ice based on some *functional* benefit (which is minimal, as you demonstrate). *Aesthetics* matter, and clear ice looks nicer. It just does.

@elephantman3266 2 года назад

One thing I'm curious about is does the clarity of the ice affect the taste of the drink in any significant way, other than dilution.

@MixingUpTiki 2 года назад

I just make tiki drinks with pebble ice..... but good to know if I decide to make a rum old fashioned.

@SpeedNessRx7 2 года назад

Density=m/V The 5 gram difference is directly related to the additional volume, so you shouldn't be surprised that a "large 5 gram difference" translates to "just" a few CC's on your graduated cylinder. Thanks for confirming, makes me feel better about all the time I spend making clear ice lol

@SyntheticEvil 2 года назад

Sure, the clear ice looks nicer and dilutes slower, but the cloudy iced beverage was colder and I'd rather have a colder drink. I can deal with that minimal increase in H2O if it's colder.

@normrubio 2 года назад

5g difference in mass and 2ml difference in volume?... Yeaaaaah... no.

@YaketyYakDontTalkBack 2 года назад

You need to dilute it to get to cool. So more dilution is colder/greater temperature drop.

@wolfis09 2 года назад

Love it guys thanks !

@SavidgeKitchen 2 года назад

The yoda gif! 😂🤣

@frankvelez7773 2 года назад

Great clear ice segment. I just want to comment on your graduated cylinders. From working in a lab I remember them being expensive. We had to use protective ring bumpers around the upper portion of the cylinder to prevent breakage and potentially hazardous conditions. It'll save you some bucks.

@freepour 2 года назад

Thanks for the heads up!

@bethrihtar1236 2 года назад

Science!

@stevenl2092 2 года назад

For water, 5g=5ml. The measurements seemed close enough in the video. It would have been better to weigh the whiskey than to measure it with a jigger. That would have been more math work though.

@TheRockyLeonFan 2 года назад

I had an argument with one random dude on the internet and I need to be proven right!!! So! Could you please do an experiment if it makes any difference if you stir with a 'spoony' bit of a bar spoon as opposed to stirring with the other end as some bartenders tend to do. The difference being in the spoon not twisting, which affects aerating the cocktail. Is it big enough differnece to be able to tell from the taste?

@hooya27 2 года назад

2:30 - alcohol and water are miscible - so they dissolve into each other. There's the lost volume.

@TorkildKahrs 2 года назад

The accuracy of digital scales can be affected by temperature fluctuations. This can be mitigated by having an insulating layer, like wood, between the scale and what you’re weighing.

@TorkildKahrs 2 года назад

To be clear, I’m not saying that’s the case here, just that it’s something to be aware of.

@freepour 2 года назад

Good to know! Thanks!

@segamble1679 2 года назад

Love this! If you want to do more of these, I would highly recommend taking a page out of James Hoffman's RU-vid channel. He does lots of pseudo-science, but the awesome thing is that he uses his insane pallette and experience with coffee and espresso (his ability to minimize variances of outcomes through well-practicied technique) become like scientific instruments. Anyone could have done the expirement you did, but you could have added a blind tasting component to prove with your experienced pallette whether it makes a difference for the experience. No judgment. Video was awesome. I hope this comes across as encouragement.

@freepour 2 года назад

Love the suggestions not sure I could have tasted a difference of 1ml of water but hey you never know 😂

@quincyfry6569 2 года назад

I mean...I can absolutely tell the difference between a few drops of water in a scotch vs none...and I have a very unsophisticated palette

@johnb3948 2 года назад

Love the lab coat Dexter

@TheStile2 2 года назад

And if there is an easy way to make clear ice I would.

@freepour 2 года назад

It can’t get much easier than putting water in a cooler and putting it in the freezer….

@garyhovey9305 2 года назад

YES!!! Clear ice absolutely matters! We had guests over the other night for cocktails and they were stunned when I used clear ice spheres. The clear ice just makes the cocktail look special. Thanks to your previous clear ice video, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lHmRxBTywSM.html I purchased the Dexas ice-ology kit which makes producing clear ice so easy!!!

@Topshy_Kretts 2 года назад

You weighed the ice before tempering and after being in the drink for 10 minutes. I’m willing to bet that they melted unevenly while they were tempering. Would have been a good idea to weigh them just before putting them into the glass to get a more accurate measure and get another data point of how much the melt in the open air.

@freepour 2 года назад

Um no. None of this is true. We tempered the ice then weighed them before putting them in the drink. We just didn’t show that but because what’s the point? They started as 80g each. We did weigh them right before they went into the glass but we didn’t show it.

@brianmackenzie753 2 года назад

Yea, cause clear😜

@freepour 2 года назад

😂

@ianlange8108 2 года назад

Guess it depends on how quickly you intend to drink your drink...

@ianlange8108 2 года назад

But I agree with the aesthetic appeal...

@MrPluto99 2 года назад

controlle the dilution of cloudy ice by volume in a spirit is really hard to quantify coz if you mix 10 ml each of etoh and h20 you wont get 20 mls of mixture it will be somewhere underneath lets say at about 17 ml. weighing the ice and or the final drink is the best way to quantify the dilution. so I would not trust the results of the Volume.

@MrPluto99 2 года назад

why is your booze so warm? xD are there 40 degrees C in LA right now or why ist it all over 30 degrees despite the ice. doesnt really make sense to me.. and what was colder, the cloudy or the clear ice? If it is the cloudy ice that my be because. of the air in the ice, it does melt faster and thats the reason why it gets a drink colder in shorter time. both ice blocks do have the same temp in the first place. and cloudy ice because of the faster melting gets the drink cold faster. whereas clear ice keeps a already cold drink longer at its cold temp. but if you stir with clear ice longer. you have to get a colder drink anyway compared to cloudy ice. You stired quite short in this experiment. To get ice to melt you have to put more than 100 times of the thermal energy in it compared to get ethanol to cool down 1 degree. to warm up air 1 degree you need just half of the thermal energy to cool ethoh for 1 degree. maybe do the exakt same experiment with longer stirring and with a few repeats and you get the expected results

@MrPluto99 2 года назад

please repeat the experiment at least 3 times and post your results. that would be sooo great

@Javic167 2 года назад

33.9°C? That's nearly 100°F, I guess sth isn't right here lol.

@freepour 2 года назад

Must have been set to Fahrenheit 😂

@brandonmeek1931 2 года назад

one ice was fully submerged, one was not. hence why one melted more. smh

@fvb3624 2 года назад

I would prefer Myth Mixing Monday

@freepour 2 года назад

Oooh good one!

@jorgeisaacguerrero 2 года назад

QUESTION.. if you melt the clear ice... and then you put the liquid back into the ice cube tray...will it still be clear ice when it freezes again???

@freepour 2 года назад

Not sure why you’d do that but the answer is yes

@jorgeisaacguerrero 2 года назад

@@freepour i dont want to shape the ice with knives or other tools. Let the ice tray do the hard work for me😅. Salud🍻🇲🇽

@defimeshun 2 года назад

He said yes, but the answer is no. There is no quality inherent to water that makes ice clear, it is the way the ice freezes. If you put it in an ice cube tray, it will freeze from all directions, which will trap air in the ice!

@김찬영-q1u 2 года назад

Love your pseudoscience❤️

@squireson 2 года назад

You weighed the ice after sitting in the drink but not _before_ ... you have no measurement of the _change_ of mass except indirectly by way of the ~1ml change in volume. About one more gram melted from the cloudy ice so it must have started out a few grams lighter, yeah?

@freepour 2 года назад

No I weighed it before too to make sure it started at the exact same weight. Guess that didn’t make the edit but didn’t think we really needed me to show it. They Both started at the exact same weight

@Jakfic 2 года назад

Shouldn't you start "experiment" from cubes of the same volume and no stirring? That's how you make them in the end, so would give better outcome probably. As volume would be equal, starting mass will be different, hence chilling effect along with dilution speed. Also no stirring would eliminate variable which is non essential :) Additionally measuring time till final decay would be great too. Added dillution after 5-10-15mins of sipping to see how it waters down the cocktail. You don't do pseudoscience, just not accurate experiments :D It's science as this it can be proven on paper ;)

@mariannakump8857 2 года назад

The lab coat gives you immediate credibility but I beg to differ...clear ice is Queen! (not King) 😁😉🥃

@freepour 2 года назад

😂 Touché

@ThreeOttersInATrenchcoat 2 года назад

Experiment invalid, your stirring spoons were different lengths 😛

@ThreeOttersInATrenchcoat 2 года назад

Gotta isolate (ice-olate?) those variables

@freepour 2 года назад

😂

@randallfitzpatrick1666 2 года назад

Me: (Drinks both graduated cylinders) ok, now let’s do a control with no dilution!

@jorgeisaacguerrero 2 года назад

Salud🍻🇲🇽

@stuffforwork 2 года назад

As a guy who spends everyday in a lab coat, dude, you look out of place. Also, n=1 is not conclusive, do a few more replicates. Still, fun show. Cheers.

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