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I don't like the Gilmore Girls, there I said it. 

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#gilmoregirls
Hey everyone, this commentary is focused on season 1 + PARTLY SEASON 2.
Even though I'm beefing with the Gilmore girls, I'm still curious as to where these characters will end up lol (AKA Rory and Lorelai gilmore, so I'll be coming back at you guys with the commentary for the remainder of the seasons lol. Anyway. ENJOY.
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00:00-01:27 Intro
01:28 - 03:18 the things I like
03:18 - 04:21 emily is a NARCISSST
04:23 - 07:26 Let's discuss lorelai
07:26 - 12:01 Lorelai & Men
12:08 - 15:03 Rory
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@graceful_rose_thorns
@graceful_rose_thorns 8 месяцев назад
The most annoying thing about Lorelei and Christopher getting back together was that Christopher obviously didn't care for Rory at all. He left when she was a baby, in the dictionary episode it's established that for 14 years he didn't visit his daughter in her own town, and they didn't get back together until she was an adult and therefore, out of their lives. He only wanted Lorelei, I don't know how she could date someone who doesn't love her daughter, ESPECIALLY when said daughter is also HIS.
@justjoannak
@justjoannak 8 месяцев назад
This!
@sparksfly6149
@sparksfly6149 8 месяцев назад
I knowwww!!! I simply cannot compute how Lorelai was ever attracted to this man again. He was a deadbeat. Fullstop. He had many and resources, but never even gave _time_ to his daughter or her mother. Yes, Lorelai did not demand his support: she chose independence. However, as a father, Christopher shouldn't have to have been asked.
@angel-ke9vs
@angel-ke9vs 8 месяцев назад
If you left me holding the baby "We are NEVER getting back together" in fact you can go straight to hell. Especially if you come crawling back after my child is grown.
@carlathompson9308
@carlathompson9308 7 месяцев назад
I always got the impression Lorelei is partially responsible why Chris wasn't in his daughter life. She in fact wanted to raise her on her own. It is implied in one episode but she didn't want that .. should Chris should have tried harder to be involved with Rory? Absolutely but he is not entirely to blame
@KH11307
@KH11307 3 месяца назад
I hated how he demanded respect when he was the biggest deadbeat "dad"
@damorocks93
@damorocks93 9 месяцев назад
Lorelai has a very avoidant communication style. She just avoids her problems instead of facing them head on.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 9 месяцев назад
She does try with her mother a few times (mostly fruitlessly) and her dad, and with Rory.
@damorocks93
@damorocks93 9 месяцев назад
@@HuntingViolets yeah her and lukes relationship is frustrating though, cause they dont communicate properly.
@blacklavoux
@blacklavoux 8 месяцев назад
And if this show is about money struggle, which she actually faced a couple of times, the plot would haven been so much different 😂
@connorbabylon5957
@connorbabylon5957 7 месяцев назад
Honestly just like me with same type of parents. Doesn’t mean it’s all their fault but it’s a factor for a kid who hates conflicts
@cannedcondensedmilk
@cannedcondensedmilk 7 месяцев назад
dismissive avoidant for sure
@romeblanchard3419
@romeblanchard3419 8 месяцев назад
Emily Glimore - Gaslight Lorelai Gilmore - Gatekeep Rory Gilmore - Girlboss
@morlenenolwazidube7286
@morlenenolwazidube7286 9 месяцев назад
i knew i did NOT like lorelai when she was serious about beefing with a 16 year old who comes from a troubled background (jess). like that boy was trouble yes but he was a kid??? i hate how she refused to stop handling rory with kid gloves even at 18 but was ready to treat jess like he was a 30 year old who refuses to get his life together. shes a weirdo for that fr
@morlenenolwazidube7286
@morlenenolwazidube7286 9 месяцев назад
11:26 circling around this, exactly how she genuinely expected Luke to choose her and Rory over his own nephew was crazy. I think it was when Lorelai's character really fell for me.
@user-ev8bv1wh7k
@user-ev8bv1wh7k 8 месяцев назад
@@morlenenolwazidube7286 but that doesnt make her a bad character, when you think from a parent perspective, most parents would take this approach/ mindset from a parental defensiveness perspective, it sounds to me like you think a good charter has to be flawless. part of good writing is showing a multifaceted character which includes flaws, as well as realistic depictions of how situations are handled even if its not the most popular stance. it makes characters more human and relatable.
@morlenenolwazidube7286
@morlenenolwazidube7286 8 месяцев назад
i didn't say that a good character has to be flawless. i said that it was so weird TO ME that lorelai decided that it was okay to beef w jess to the point of suggesting to luke that he should abandon his own nephew, esp considering jess' background. EYYYEEEE (as in my opinion) believe that lorelai was a terrible person for that. @@user-ev8bv1wh7k
@Lena-bu6zn
@Lena-bu6zn 8 месяцев назад
The episode where a deer went out in front of the car while Jess was driving was the episode that made me start hating Lorelei. Jess was probably already shakeb up and felt really bad even though the crash was not his fault at all and all Lorelai want to do is call Luke and tell him instead of asking if Jess is ok as he also got into a car crash. The parent standpoint here doesn’t even excuse this, to be so incredibly selfish to call someone who just got into a wreck like that and berate them for a crash that they didn’t even cause is so incredibly selfish.
@user-ev8bv1wh7k
@user-ev8bv1wh7k 8 месяцев назад
@@Lena-bu6zn yes it is. one can argue many people act selfishly in the heat of a given moment. those are what some would call realistic character flaws. stop hyper-analyzing a fictional character. Edit: you are analyzing her as if shes a real person and/ or needs to somehow justify her actions to the audience. or are you just complaining about the character? arguing about the character? cant tell.
@FreakUsOut
@FreakUsOut 11 месяцев назад
Rory is the most entitled, self-centered person yet who grew up incredibly privileged, yes I acknowledge her mom has had it hard but they have literally been raised by the entire community, taken under their wing, never been without anything. Rory and Lorelai have been wrong SO MANY TIMES, and no one ever called them out on it.
@pipermcdermott8714
@pipermcdermott8714 11 месяцев назад
just wait until rorys college years in the later seasons 😭
@Lena-bu6zn
@Lena-bu6zn 11 месяцев назад
I have always hated Rory when watching this show. Without spoiling anything I will say that throughout the ENTIRE series Rory does a lot of terrible things and tries to defend them. The town and her mom usually back her up even when she's wrong and enforced that mindset. By the reboot Rory isn't even trying to justify her horrible behavior she just doesn't care as long as she gets what she wants. I've always been shocked to hear people defend her because the comment is always "everyone makes mistakes" but Rory does a lot of these bad things as an adult and continues to do them in the reboot.
@user-ev8bv1wh7k
@user-ev8bv1wh7k 8 месяцев назад
loreli did not always back rory up on every decision. just have to say that. also - rory doesnt defend every single action, and she also has a great deal of remorse for many things as well. the reboot is another story - but just had to respond because your comment by itself sounds like a misrepresentation to me. and ive rewatched the series a few times now
@nostradamus1162
@nostradamus1162 8 месяцев назад
i hated how everything came easily to her - became valedictorian and got into harvard even though paris worked ten times harder, had boys falling head over heels for her at every corner, always got away scot free even though she created messes everywhere. it just felt like a self insert fanfic of something
@Lena-bu6zn
@Lena-bu6zn 8 месяцев назад
@@user-ev8bv1wh7k I’m not sure what show you’re watching if you think that’s true because throughout the entirety of Gilmore girls everyone in the entire town defends Rory for literally everything she does. Quite literally the only thing that Lorelei ever called her out for is homewrecking Dean’s marriage. Also, I’m not sure what remorse you’re seeing because Rory literally never felt bad for anything she did to anyone, she said that he was “her dean” when she homewrecked a marriage, she called a ballerina fat in an article and body shamed her and then was shocked when she got mad at her, let the whole town bad mouth dean over and over after their breakup not bothering once to mention what actually happened, let the town bully jess into moving, homewrecking logan’s marriage. Continues to body shame AND homewreck in the reboot. Like Rory all you want but don’t try to claim that she isn’t blatantly written as a super bad person. It’s a popular opinion for a reason. Actually, it’s not even a matter of opinion, this is just blatantly what happened in the show.
@Lena-bu6zn
@Lena-bu6zn 8 месяцев назад
@@nostradamus1162 I agree something that bothered me about the show is the impracticality of a lot of it. Like I’ve noticed in a lot of scenes they will sit down to eat and get their food served and then Rory will get up and leave either before the food even gets there or right when it gets set down without eating.
@user-ev8bv1wh7k
@user-ev8bv1wh7k 8 месяцев назад
@@Lena-bu6zn where in my response did i actually say rory is a "good" or flawless character? cause i literally never did. you dont need to spend time writing a paragraph to a stranger about a fictional tv show plot when i never even disagreed with you on the flaws of a given character to begin with. what i commented on and what you replied with are entirely different things. chill tf out.
@edelric
@edelric 9 месяцев назад
I would argue Rory's depth comes in the later seasons, which is when most people start hating her character and wishing they had the old Rory back. I think your criticisms of her character being too "perfect" or unrealistic is very interesting considering that is part of what eventually leads to her "downfall". Many will say they became disappointed in how Rory turns out but I think, regardless of if she is likeable or not, she is one of the most realistic depictions of gifted kid burnout ever. I would be interested to see a follow up on this if you finish the show.
@emmy8526
@emmy8526 8 месяцев назад
Absolutely! Gifted kid burnout for sure, but also just any kid hitting the job market post-2008 financial crash, let alone one working in journalism, a sector being decimated by losing ad money to social media. Triple whammy for Rory.
@luckybear101
@luckybear101 7 месяцев назад
I actually really like Rory as a character. I often don’t agree with her choices, but I kind of liked seeing her make mistakes and struggling. To me the issue has always been that ASP wanted to tell a circular storyline where Rory essentially becomes Lorelai instead of examining the complexity of Rory’s own story. We all see and understand she has gifted kid burnout, but I don’t think ASP really understands what that is or how to explore that. I always thought a great way to take Rory’s storyline would have been to have her enter the workforce only to realize that the big master plan she’s been working toward this whole time isn’t what she actually wants to do and has to actually take the time to figure out what she wants and how to navigate that change. Instead we got the revival.
@emmy8526
@emmy8526 8 месяцев назад
Lorelai is also a narcissistic controlling mother; she just has a cool girl style. She named Rory after herself and mapped out her whole life for her, just like Emily. She has a tantrum whenever Rory makes her own decisions, even about who to sleep with. She’s also weirdly controlling in her own romances, which is why Luke feels perfect to her. He’s like a prison boyfriend she gets to visit on her own terms at the diner, but he’s mostly trapped there and she just goes to see him when it’s convenient for her. The show is actually very well written that way as a character study of all these people; it’s just that it’s constantly hand-waving away what it’s showing as “this is awesome actually” and most people can’t see past the cozy lifestyle stuff and the overt supposed baddies and good guys. The dialogue and actors are awesome though.
@yasmeantamoor-snyder5615
@yasmeantamoor-snyder5615 8 месяцев назад
NOT a prison boyfriend! You’re totally right, I see it now 😂
@Starbits7
@Starbits7 8 месяцев назад
100%
@angel-ke9vs
@angel-ke9vs 8 месяцев назад
That's true she decided who Rory is as a person. To her Rory is a character in the the soap opera that is her life. She acts like she is a scriptwriter or playing with a doll not a mother building a relationship with her child.
@espeon871
@espeon871 7 месяцев назад
Tbh i like that unintentional detail because it shows the generational trauma of the gilmore girls
@espeon871
@espeon871 7 месяцев назад
@@angel-ke9vsyep
@T_Cup
@T_Cup 8 месяцев назад
This is why I always say I enjoy the characters, I don't like them. But to expand (rant incoming): My main beef with Lorelei is her relationship with Rory and how toxic they are while being painted as aspirational. She’s not that different to Emily. Harvard was Lorelei’s dream, not Rory’s, just like Yale was Emily’s dream for Lorelei. Lorelei’s overbearing immaturity forced out Rory’s perfectionism, hyper independence and shyness, so she doesn’t have any natural personality traits, and she’s constantly playing mom to Lorelei who, despite pushing her dreams onto her daughter, has almost no regard for Rory’s hard work and success, so there's no time or space for Rory's emotional growth. Look at how Lorelei showed up to Chilton on Rory's first day and then dated Rory’s teacher, knowing it would likely fail, and then moved onto Rory’s dad when it did. All of this after Rory had just switched schools, already a major change for an introvert, and was low-key bullied from day one while facing added pressure to succeed from her grandparents because of their financial help. Add to that the fact no one really sees her except through the lens of “like mother, like daughter” aka for the mere fact that she’s Lorelei’s child or due to her perfectionism, which is a trauma response caused by Lorelei’s bad parenting. There’s no room to find herself or become her own person because all the adults in her life insist she should be just like her mother, and so she does, just a watered down version, adopting all Lorelei’s worst habits while losing most of her own because she never got to grow up outside of the Lorelei bubble and because trauma looks different in adulthood
@Gwyn142
@Gwyn142 8 месяцев назад
amazing, so well put thank you
@blue_sweater
@blue_sweater 8 месяцев назад
I was thinking the same throughout first seasons. You just put it so well into words❤❤
@anainesgonzalez8868
@anainesgonzalez8868 7 месяцев назад
This is exactly what the show is about. I do not get why it sounds like people want to like the characters.
@kitsch_bitch
@kitsch_bitch 7 месяцев назад
What makes you think that it was Lorelai's idea that Rory should go to Harvard? Also I don't see how Lorelai has no regard for Rory's hard work (I'm only at season 2 so far though, maybe I'll get it eventually)
@T_Cup
@T_Cup 7 месяцев назад
@@kitsch_bitch Lorelai makes it clear time and time again that Harvard was "their" dream that "they" worked toward all Rory's life, which really means it's Lorelai's dream. Coz whenever Harvard came up, it was never Rory bragging about the journalism program specifically, it was just about getting into that specific school, no definite reason why. And a big part of choosing this school was for Lorelai to stick it to her Yale-legacy family. Remember her reaction when Rory told her grandparents she wanted to go to Yale - Lorelai told them off. Only reason she backed down was because she could still continue their unhealthy relationship dynamic if Rory chose Yale, coz she'd be close to home. And there's that episode of Season 2 where they actually go to Harvard and you can see the regret on Lorelai's face that she missed out on what will now be Rory's future, which is why she pushed her toward that future in the first place: to live vicariously through her daughter's achievements and figuratively stick her middle finger up at her parents at the same time
@liz19586
@liz19586 8 месяцев назад
That is why the show (in my opinion) is so good! The main characters are realistic and very complex. They have great character development, even though sometimes is not for the best.
@M_k-zi3tn
@M_k-zi3tn 8 месяцев назад
Nah at some point the skip button starts to look atractive because the characters just become worse overtime.
@frizzyrascal1493
@frizzyrascal1493 5 месяцев назад
Yes, the problem occurs in the discrepancy. The show actively tries to paint Rory and Lorelai as the good, cool and chique characters. I watched the series years after it‘s release, just out of fun and the issues were glaring. That‘s why Rory gets annoying to watch, because her character gets worse, but they still try to paint her as this golden, cute teenager. There is no feel for her character arc in her downfall.
@AnaCarolinaXoxo
@AnaCarolinaXoxo 8 месяцев назад
I know the characters are deeper than that, but I hate how the show's writers made Rory's relationships parallel to Lorelai's. Rory saw her marriage to Logan in such a negative way, but unlike Lorelai she didn't choose to run away, she looked him in the eye and said no. Lorelai viewed relationships as a mess, and I believe this influenced Rory's decision. Ironically, Rory ended the show having an affair with the father of her child who was engaged to someone else, like Lorelai and Cristopher in season two. (let's face it, we know that Rory's baby's father is Logan).
@begumbakr2647
@begumbakr2647 5 месяцев назад
Yes he is. Someone from the show later said that he is.
@unionunicorn6776
@unionunicorn6776 8 месяцев назад
I don’t like Gilmore Girls either. The reason I don’t like it is because it reminds me too much of my relationship with my own mother, which is actually a bad thing because my mom gave me PTSD from treating me like her best friend instead of her child, which made me what psychologists call a “parentified” child, except that I was that scenario that you said where we actually lived with my grandma, and so I got both generations of trauma. This show is a study in generational trauma, which is important, but for some people, this show hits way too close to home. 💔
@ashleyrogers1930
@ashleyrogers1930 2 месяца назад
Unpopular opinion: Emily isn't a narcissist, she is just controlling. And the control comes from the class they are in. I think she wanted what was best for her daughter and went about it the wrong way. She was also the most disrespected, she had no one to defend her. Richard let his mom talk to her any kind of way and he also disrespected her. Lorelai and Rory also has disrespected her. The actual narcissist of Gilmore Girls was Rory. She treated everyone so poorly yet they all treated her like she was some delicate flower that could do no wrong
@auntyamelia6906
@auntyamelia6906 25 дней назад
*she's a narcissist
@ashleyrogers1930
@ashleyrogers1930 25 дней назад
@@auntyamelia6906 a narcissist would have never let Richard mom treat them like that. Emily was mean but I think nowadays people throw around the word narcissist without knowing what it means. Being mean or controlling doesn’t equal narcissist. Mitchum was a narcissist.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 9 месяцев назад
Stars Hollow seems to have some kind of festival every month, which is more than any town I've ever lived in. (We do have a lot of amateur theatre here, though, so there's that.)
@betelgeux6010
@betelgeux6010 4 месяца назад
pretty much escapism. like in TVD, but there its a tad more extreme. apart from the first two episodes you rarely see the school, while elena, bonnie, caroline,stefano and jeremy are supposed to be there fulltime
@buffysummers7887
@buffysummers7887 11 месяцев назад
as a longtime Gilmore Girls & Lorelai fan, I love this! Most of the shows I watched I’m fully in support of a favorite character’s heroic (or antiheroic) actions, but Gilmore Girls is that rare show where I’m like, “Now what in the hell… is you doin….??” I think it’s because the stakes are so much lower, it feels safer to watch them get up to their various shenans. My only complaint right now is I wish this was absolutely longer! I love hearing people dissect shows/characters/motives/etc
@luckybear101
@luckybear101 7 месяцев назад
I think Rory seems so bland because she literally has no idea who she actually is. She was always the hardworking overachiever and Lorelai’s daughter. There was always this master plan of going to Harvard, studying journalism, and eventually becoming a foreign correspondent, but even in season one it’s sort of hinted that this is more Lorelai’s plan than it is Rory’s. And while she does deviate from the plan slightly, for the most part she is very much on the path that has been laid out for her. But starting with her leaving for college, I think we start to see her begin to falter a bit. She has no idea who she is outside of being good at school and all the interests she’s kind of inherited from Lorelai, and there is, I think, a decent story in there about her having to figure out who she actually is and what she wants. But I don’t think the person writing the story is able to really handle those storylines (or is even interested in them). It’s sad really.
@kelpie.ag.
@kelpie.ag. 11 месяцев назад
I've watched Gilmore Girls frrom start to end and a lot of your character assessments are really accurate for the show continuing down the line in later seasons!! without putting in spoilers the best I can, I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that s1 is probably Loralei and Rory at their best tbh, s1 and s2 are the only ones I truly ever watch anymore. I can't wait to see your next commentary videos on gilmore girls and PLEASE do Ginny and Georgia it's kinda like watching a train crash imo
@the_it_girl1209
@the_it_girl1209 8 месяцев назад
These are the things I love about it, the aesthetic, the motivation of Rory and Paris with their education earlier in seasons, and Tristan, and Lori’s ability to be a single mother badass, and the mother daughter relationship.
@slideshowcinema2316
@slideshowcinema2316 8 месяцев назад
I agree it has some good qualities too. :-)
@tessa.wright2016
@tessa.wright2016 11 месяцев назад
Never watched Gilmore girls because I felt like the self-centredness would annoy me
@ivan_lamm
@ivan_lamm 4 месяца назад
i think the main problem with the show is that the characters dont really get a redemption arc. flawed characters are nice, but if a show goes on for 7 seasons and the characters despite aging by 7 years still behave the same way and make the same mistakes, it becomes hard to root for them. u put up with their bullshit for 1, 2 hell even 3 seasons in the hope that surely they're gonna have a redemption arc, or get confronted or held accountable next, but they don't. lorelie & rory are the same throughout the 7 seasons and even into the reboot. they dont get better and they dont get worse either. it's just the same problems & same mistakes in different fonts. and nobody really acknowledges that they're terrible people or that they did something wrong, they're always put on a pedestal by the characters around them and by the writers as well where they want us to still root for them. and i find that interesting in contrast to other characters like luke, jess & logan who really grow and change a lot throughout the seasons.
@pluviophile._.j
@pluviophile._.j 2 месяца назад
Yes!❤
@isabelachaj
@isabelachaj 11 месяцев назад
I have some of the same opinions, but for Emily Gilmore, I think she does begin to realize her mistakes & actions and we get to see how damaged she is because of how she thinks she has to live. She sort of starts understanding Lorelei and Rory. I’ve only watched up until season 5 and that’s all I’ve seen of Emily Gilmore’s “character development”.
@atieh410
@atieh410 9 месяцев назад
The thing is that none of the characters in the show is perfect and they're not supposed to be. They're supposed to be like real people, so of course they do dumb shit
@sasamafrass
@sasamafrass 8 месяцев назад
I've watched Gilmore Girls waaaayyyy too many times and I can say I have gone from liking Lorelei to hating her and back again, lol. I definitely have a different perspective on Lorelei now that I am older and a mother myself than when I was a single 20 year old when it first aired. Rory was kind of a blank page that worshiped her mom the first few seasons. Her character definitely got worse as she started developing a personality. Also: JUSTICE FOR LANE!
@ReactingFox
@ReactingFox 7 месяцев назад
The way I got BUTCHERED for making a video saying i didn't like the show Glad to find my people here 😂
@justjoannak
@justjoannak 8 месяцев назад
Please do more of these as you progress through the show
@SagemaGrindset1894
@SagemaGrindset1894 8 месяцев назад
I AGREE
@SagemaGrindset1894
@SagemaGrindset1894 8 месяцев назад
I AGREE i would also look forward to it❤❤
@kaylanguyen2768
@kaylanguyen2768 11 месяцев назад
deborah i audibly gasped at the title
@jamaisali
@jamaisali 9 месяцев назад
Found this video from my recommendations, and I’m glad I watched!!! Despite Gilmore girls being my favorite series atm, I can totally admit that there are a lot of flaws within each character and you hit EVERY point. I absolutely loved the comparison you made between Devi and Rory because that’s exactly how I feel. I can’t wait for you to finish the rest of the upcoming seasons!!!
@gh0ulgirl
@gh0ulgirl 8 месяцев назад
do you mean paris?? there is no female character named devi in gilmore girls, there’s a guy named dave but no girl and it sounds like you’re talking about paris.
@jamaisali
@jamaisali 8 месяцев назад
@@gh0ulgirl I’m talking about Devi from Never have I ever! In the video she compares that character to Rory!
@danijo96
@danijo96 9 месяцев назад
I agree with everything you said. I'm currently watching it for the first time and the way I'm STRUGGLING through the second season.....I HATE every character. Every single one of them. They're all insufferable. But I'm determined to finish it.
@betelgeux6010
@betelgeux6010 4 месяца назад
did you finish? i believe you should not suffer through something you dislike in your free time, but if you did... im intruiged
@danijo96
@danijo96 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately, no I didn't lol. It's been 4 months since I made that comment, what a shame. Maybe I'm just not the target audience. @@betelgeux6010
@pipermcdermott8714
@pipermcdermott8714 11 месяцев назад
pls do more commentaries I love to see it!
@freeinghumanitynow
@freeinghumanitynow 6 месяцев назад
Lorelei is an awful mother. She is more about being Rory's friend than being Rory's mother which is why Rory turned out the way she did. That said, it's not like Lorelei has any clue how to be a good mother. Her own mother is colder than the Arctic tundra. Valuing overrated, overpriced Ivy League schools, junk food, useless pop culture and vapid celeb gossip isn't it. Garbage. Rory was raised to value all the wrong things. She was raised by a rebellious spirit who raised her to value nothing but shallow garbage.
@Jessica.Shawnte
@Jessica.Shawnte 9 месяцев назад
i started to dislike Rory when she made a big deal about Dean wanting his wife to cook for him.. that’s how he grew up(never heard dean insinuate that his parents were in a toxic relationship) VS Rory who grew the last 5 years with her single mom.. not all husbands are abusive and not all stay at home moms/wife are depressed and stressed out.. Lorelei gave what Emily lacked .. Lorelei was only a good parent emotionally but let’s be clear she never parented Rory and it shows badly.. Lorelei is a rich trust fund white woman that wanted to be a single poor mom so bad 😂 like be for real she really thought Rory was gonna get the scholarship💀💀in the words of Rory “i am a Gilmore my ancestors came on the Mayflower”😂😂💀💀
@cruisindownthestreetinmy6490
@cruisindownthestreetinmy6490 8 месяцев назад
“Lorelai is a rich trust fund white woman that wanted to be a single poor mom so bad” … Take a step back… reassess, collect your marbles. Lorelai comes from a rich background. Surprise!! You may have forgotten the fact that she ALSO birthed a child at 16, ran away from home at 17 because she was being low key abused (I don’t care what your definition of abuse is, because you seem to have lost all empathy for no reason), lived in a POTTING SHED. A POTTING SHED. Raised her baby, while working as a maid at an Inn, lived there for 10 goddamn years until she’d saved enough money and gotten enough financial stability to get the Crap Shack (the house they live in during the show) which still had a lot of work done to it to make it livable. I’m sure Lorelai had a trust fund. Did she use that trust fund?? Did she throw herself into poverty and instability for the sake of her child?? Why are we ragging on a self-made (YES SEKF MADE. Her wealth very obviously didn’t matter when she literally ran away from it, taking nothing with her) woman who brought up a whole arse child (pretty damn well btw… Rory coulda turned out a LOT WORSE) while also working her arse off?? Why are you gate keeping poverty? Because she’s white? Because she’s independent? Because she grew up rich? Ridiculously cruel. Also, THATS when u starting disliking Rory?? Good lord.
@stuffwithsoph8264
@stuffwithsoph8264 7 месяцев назад
Lorelai was a maid and lived in a shed raising her daughter when she was 17. I see what you're saying but considering she didn't even get to go to uni and didn't accept financial aid from her family until the show starts I simply disagree.
@SilenaBeauregardisahero
@SilenaBeauregardisahero 2 месяца назад
Okay so there was this one moment when I hated Lorelai more than anything when Rory and Jess got in an accident she and the town blamed it on him, and got mad when he had a car
@user-zg6zu6on1j
@user-zg6zu6on1j 8 месяцев назад
Characters are not prefect, it's true But i just like to see smart young girls in media. Not only Rory but Paris who also wasn't perfect. They were interesting and somehow real. I literally can see my sister in Rory my classmate in Paris me in Lane. (ofc I talk mostly for 1-3 seasons) This is my favourite part of this show. Anyway thank you for your opinion :)
@Le_Cube
@Le_Cube 9 месяцев назад
So for me GG is nostalgic. I was like 12-15 when it started for me. So I like to watch it now just as a comfort show. I think people barely watching it now have a different viewpoint so I get how the characters can be annoying. I love it regardless. Lol.
@avi.chan23
@avi.chan23 6 месяцев назад
I love Gilmore Girls as a whole. I still resonate with your points a lot. Maybe the fact, that the main characters aren't that likable is the reason, why the show is so great. Especially Lorelai is someone I like a lot but I am still constantly sitting there like "giiiiirl, what you doing???" For me, the most impressive character with the best character development is Paris. Hell, I love this girl so much. Highly competetive, aggressive, stubburn, deeply hurt. In comparission with Rory, Paris had to work hard to get at least a bit of attention from her parents. She wasn't constantly praised and cuddled. She literally work her ass of, still don't get into Harvard. But guess what, she fights through this as well, Rory on the other hand... The smallest obstacle is enough to throw her out of her way for months...
@JemimaDoesASMR
@JemimaDoesASMR 8 месяцев назад
I haven't seen you before but I really love your style and vibe so much, hearing your take was so entertaining 😍
@bregn4
@bregn4 9 месяцев назад
Yes to the title.. I do not get the hype but your intro gave me a better understanding of the appeal for others. I just finished watching it for the first time so I don’t really have the nostalgia feeling associated with it. I have many qualms with the characters LOL but I found Lorelei being so mad at her parents bc they wanted to give her money and nice things to better her life so puzzling. I did not grow up like her so I can’t relate at all but are there really people who can relate to this?? (not trying to be judgmental just seems so foreign from my pov).. super unpopular but I lowkey loved Richard and emily as the seasons progressed
@dailycarolina.
@dailycarolina. 9 месяцев назад
Luke is the BEST character of this show
@saadets.1820
@saadets.1820 8 месяцев назад
I absolutely love lorelai and the show in general, but your video was so fun to watch! I totally understand your point. Subscribed!!!
@allieament
@allieament 8 месяцев назад
I 100% agree with everything you said & haha I knew you were going to bring up Devi when you were talking about a teenager with personality that makes mistakes lol. Also you just wait Rory in season 3 is a mess and I just started season 4.
@rbvp45
@rbvp45 3 месяца назад
Would love to see more videos from you on Gilmore Girls
@patriciah9413
@patriciah9413 8 месяцев назад
someone i reallly dislike is luke. his clueless in s1-4. is meh but once they get together he becomes the archetype of snivelling controlling but distant boyfriend. like things he does are things he talked shit about and just his overall character is this self efacing man who things are happening to and he cant possibly make a decision. he pisses me off so bad
@foodeaterwaterdrinker
@foodeaterwaterdrinker 7 месяцев назад
i know people find his boisterous outbursts amusing and funny but i have to say i hate it a lot. i know people interpret them as him being exasperated but it makes him look like an aggressive troglodyte and it always pisses me off.
@user-nz2rf7fm8h
@user-nz2rf7fm8h 4 месяца назад
Love your hair, and you have a great voice for audio. Idk what goes into reading audio books but I’d for sure listen to you read a book, hope that’s not weird lol you have an engaging voice and way of speaking
@overdosedmiawallace
@overdosedmiawallace 7 месяцев назад
I actually don't dislike Emily that much so far, i'm in the middle of Season 2. I get it, she's super flawed but she seems trying to fix the relationship with her daugther for the most part and Lorelei kinda dismisses it all the time
@venusgin7779
@venusgin7779 7 месяцев назад
I grew up with a situation extremely similar to Gilmoire girls women dynamics (not the overwhelming wealth though, all of my family is working class). I lived with my mom who was like Lorelay was a “cool” mom and my grandma who was overly critical and emotionally unavailable. Bc of this I had to grow up real quick and parent my mother, being more like an older sister (I was so “mature” and my mom was so “young looking” (even tho she had me at 30) that we were confused for sisters all the damn time) as an only child while my grandma was a narcissist who wouldn’t communicate her anger but would gaslight gatekeep girlboss guilt trip all the damn time. I think that the reason I didn’t end up like Rory is bc I decided to get a personality and rebel and get involved in my community and just be grounded when it comes to how good I think I am (maybe some self-esteem issues, but eh). Idk mate, I just hate how Rory treats her bf (as someone who doesn’t even date, never dated, don’t want to rlly date necessarily as an aroace) and Lorelay and her just have a lot of hate towards women who try bc it comes easy to them (for many reasons, including wealth)
@bryyy4088
@bryyy4088 11 месяцев назад
so we are all watching gg rn. i have 2 more episodes left of season 7 and i agree some of the characters are unlikeable
@harleyhui5344
@harleyhui5344 7 месяцев назад
⚠️SPOILERS⚠️ As you watch the show more and more, Christopher comes back here and there to pursue Lorelei instead of being there for Rory. Rory addresses this but it’s crazy how Emily still preferred Christopher over Luke even though she knew everything going on between Lorelai and Christopher while Luke was physically and emotionally there for Rory as a father figure. He’s literally Rory’s dad. However, Emily is still iconic in her own right but she’s not only incredibly narcissistic but also extremely controlling in Lorelei’s adult life. Luckily, Emily changes a lot and her relationship with Lorelei actually gets better towards the end in the revival series
@daniela-se6lw
@daniela-se6lw 8 месяцев назад
babe same but here i am watching it again for the 5th time
@kendaljarocki7525
@kendaljarocki7525 7 месяцев назад
Im finding this video 3 months after it was posted. But im sitting here listening to your reasonable slight criticism thinking "just wait, it gets so much worse". I also totally related to the love the show not so much the characters comment. It explains my weird relationship with this show and why i keep coming back to it. Great video
@greendiamondglow
@greendiamondglow 2 месяца назад
I think most of the characters on GG are pretty awful, but that's honestly, that's what I like about the show. To me, the show is about villains who don't realize they're villains. It's like the Kardashians, but with interesting storylines (I'm basing this off of the three episodes of KUWTK that I saw like 10 years ago, so if I'm wrong about the show having storylines, my bad). Emily, Lorelei, and Rory are very similar people, but their differences make those similarities play out in wildly different ways...if that makes sense. Like, they all have narcissistic tendencies, but in different ways. Forgive my rambling. It's late and I just took a melatonin.
@mkdodson
@mkdodson 7 месяцев назад
oh girl i’m at the end of season 6 and you are gonna be PISSED when you get to season 4,5,6.😭😭
@princessspeach
@princessspeach 4 месяца назад
you’re so bold for making this video after only watching 2 seasons 😭😭😭 i don’t blame you tho i HATED the gilmore girls esp lorelai during szn 1 i almost gave up watching the show entirely but you really gotta push thru i felt so differently about them by the end!!! i hope you’ve finished it by now hehe
@AsmiNawalkha-zj3fj
@AsmiNawalkha-zj3fj 7 месяцев назад
There are more complexities to rory's character which we are visible as the show progress.
@alexislofgren4859
@alexislofgren4859 9 месяцев назад
YESS someone had to say it and you did 💅🏻
@faeriesmak
@faeriesmak 6 месяцев назад
I don’t like the town. I live in a small town and let me tell you…Stars Hollow is a LIE.
@mattymcfabb
@mattymcfabb 8 месяцев назад
They are the girls I love to hate and hate to love. One of my favorite shows that also engages me
@unamed2516
@unamed2516 4 месяца назад
I hate how people say Rory was perfect in the first season or was regarded as perfect and that’s why people stopped liking her later because she stopped being perfect Chilton Rory but she was never perfect. She was just an okay person in the first season. The only people who regarded her as perfect was her mom and people in her town. People stopped liking her later because she acted terrible at times or did unnecessarily dumb things that made no sense.
@r4spb3rrysw1rl
@r4spb3rrysw1rl 9 месяцев назад
I can certainly concor with you about Rory’s lack of “personality” being one of the main factors of why she was straight up disliked by audiences. Perhaps, the hyper focus on Rory “not being like other girls” dulled her up dry, her interest and hobbies can also be reflective of this notion. Moreover, I enjoyed this commentary and I agreed with much of your points and views. You’re quite entertaining, unlike Rory 😂
@jessinthecomments
@jessinthecomments 9 месяцев назад
I know I’m in the minority of the fandom but I love Emily. She’s my favorite character, problematic and all. I don’t like Lorelei or Rory at all really.
@CD-qr7ec
@CD-qr7ec 6 месяцев назад
I get this. I think it's cos with Emily what you see is what you get. She is pretty open about who she is and how she operates. She also has a fair bit of character development. Lorelai and Rory, on the other hand, don't see how controlling and manipulative they are. They operate a facade to the world and seem to believe in it themselves so go about all smug and self righteous and butter wouldnt melt. At least Emily is who she claims to be, which is more likeable I think.
@jessinthecomments
@jessinthecomments 6 месяцев назад
@@CD-qr7ec THIS! Yes that’s it. If she’s mean, she’s honest about it. If she has ulterior motives, it’s upfront. Lorelei and Rory are just as self centered as Emily and are low key mean girls that act like girls’ girls.
@msofiacazon4261
@msofiacazon4261 6 месяцев назад
Emily👑
@tamanna.26
@tamanna.26 3 месяца назад
Initially I liked Max and Lorelai as a couple but wasn't quite fond of how pushy Max got about that whole proposal thing and their break up made me sad. But as the show progressed I gotta say Max dodged a big bullet there.
@c.d.4319
@c.d.4319 3 месяца назад
I love GG. I have binged it so many times, especially when I'm at work (I work nights), but Lorelei only gets away with her annoying, perky, pick-me attitude because she lives in a small town. If she lived in New York, for example, someone would have told her to shut the f up by now.
@efkia1660
@efkia1660 9 месяцев назад
"What is you doing?" Lol 😂
@Ryannhawkins88
@Ryannhawkins88 8 месяцев назад
I just feel she just wanted better for her daughter ,she want her daughter to be better than her and not follow her footsteps same as me I had my daughter at 16 me she’s now 19 all I want is better for her in always talk to her in be understanding because I didn’t have that with my mom ❤so I get her point on how she is with rory but i don’t Ike her be Rory be municipally these men
@TheGrouchDnD
@TheGrouchDnD 6 месяцев назад
Tried to watch this show as kind of a comfort show. (I'm a dude). And boy, my wife and I just started hate watching, because we couldn't believe the things they complain about. "I can't believe my mom wants to pay for my spoiled daughter's very expensive school!"
@Piper-bw2jh
@Piper-bw2jh 28 дней назад
I do love to watch the show for remembering the lack of social media and how compared to some of todays shows - their noses aren’t buried in their phones, the language sounds better and smarter (usually) etc. And, I watch it for Suki! And Michel ! 😆 Although my favourite part is probably the relationship between Rory and Richard. I love grandparent/grandchild bonding. And I do have a soft spot for Emily and Lane’s mum - I know they’re not ideal but the other end of that is Lorelai who also isn’t?
@nathnath6123
@nathnath6123 7 месяцев назад
Another reason why I don't looove the character Rory is linked to the actress' performance... it's undeniable how bad her performance is, zero emotion and feeling. period.
@MaxOakland
@MaxOakland 10 месяцев назад
Comment on Over the Garden Wall for Halloween :)
@LauraSomeNumber
@LauraSomeNumber 2 месяца назад
I actually don't think Emily is narcissistic. Abusive absolutely. I think she may have OCPD (not OCD) it's a separate disorder where you are very rigid. So if someone isn't there at the correct time they won't get dinner. That type of thing.
@moinschatz777
@moinschatz777 5 месяцев назад
I have to disagree on the point that Emily is narcisistic - shes a great portrayal of the older generation before the baby boomers - you have been taught to always hide your feelings, dont talk about sad things, portray your life as perfect and dont portray yourself as a burden.
@blacklavoux
@blacklavoux 9 месяцев назад
I dislike how most of lorelai’s lines are just a lot of not needed sentence after sentence to the point where i roled my eyes everytime she started talking 😂 But that’s how her character is supposed to be 🤷🏻‍♀️ Rory, on the other hand, the writer make her looked like she always make mistake after mistake to the point where she just a failure. A character like rory would aced it in real life.
@beforethenextstep305
@beforethenextstep305 6 месяцев назад
Have you ever seen Dawson’s creek. It’s similar vibe to gilmore girls but it’s the teen/life story of Kevin Williamson. The guy who makes all those teen/small town horror. Example Scream movies and scream tv shows, the first 2 seasons of the vampire diaries, I know what you did last summer, etx. The show is about Dawson, teen who lives in quirky small town guy, coming of age, while also dreaming of one day going to Hollywood and make horror movies.
@nerdydior9080
@nerdydior9080 Месяц назад
What do you think about Paris? I think she’s a character you would enjoy if you continued watching it. At first I didn’t like her rich, high achieving, miss know it all, mean self trying to start something with Rory who literally had no beef with her in the beginning but as the show progresses, you start to enjoy her more and learn about more about her family and all. And I like her sarcastic quips & her sassiness!
@katythebeauty330
@katythebeauty330 8 месяцев назад
I’m on season 2 episode 1 and I love the show so far. Lol there are times where Lorelei (the mom) is annoying and acts very childish. But regardless I’m addicted to this show!
@AngelicaEstherxo
@AngelicaEstherxo 8 месяцев назад
Still on the 1st season… LOVE IT! Definitely not for everybody though.
@OwlBard
@OwlBard 2 месяца назад
I think this is a show that mostly appeals to high school level girls, at the most. Honestly when I got to my early twenties, I looked back on the show and realized how unrelatable to me Rory and Lorelai actually were, despite feeling a deep connection to Rory when I was younger.
@CyclingM1867
@CyclingM1867 6 месяцев назад
When the show first came out, I didn't like Lorelai at the start, although she did grow on me as time went on. Yes, she kept making decisions and choices that irked me to no end, but I still liked her. I think it's because, in some ways, I could relate to her in some ways. I wasn't a single mom and I didn't come from the same background as her, but we're very close in age, and I also didn't really act as an adult is usually expected to in a lot of ways. Still, she did a lot of things, especially when it came to men, that I wouldn't have done, and that irked me. With Rory, I really liked her at first, but as time went on, I liked her less and less. Part of me wanted to keep liking her, but I just found her less and less sympathetic as time went on. I'm rewatching the series now and she just started at Yale. Emily Gilmore - I think that you hit the nail on the head when you said that she's narcissistic. I wouldn't have thought to call her that before, but that's a perfect thing to call her. I do think that after Richard died and she moved away and left her society life behind, that she finally focused on things other than just herself and on what was expected of her, but throughout the original series, her focus was on how she thought things should be - for appearances. To her, there was one way and one way only to do things, and heaven forbid that anyone ever strays from that. I think that there was a slight loosening up of this as time went on in the original series, but it really happened in A Year In The Life. In that series, Emily is by far my favourite Gilmore Girl at the end of the show.
@anoncat001
@anoncat001 8 месяцев назад
I did when I watched it all those years ago but things changed. 😅
@BeStillandKnow0000
@BeStillandKnow0000 2 месяца назад
I think what's funny about the series is that we ended up judging them the way they judge people who are not into their interests or group think.
@natkai
@natkai 8 месяцев назад
I love Gilmore girls because I hate all the characters (especially Rory and Lorelai) and i love hating
@MrJojomylove
@MrJojomylove 3 месяца назад
Dude me too, I did not watch the show much but I found the characters so annoying.
@queenestherN
@queenestherN 5 дней назад
Rory Gilmore’s character will make sense right at the end of the seasons right at the end of the reunion season. Because she is absorbing everything from her grandparents everything from her mother and how the community treat her. She gets to her 20s and 30s and starts acting like she can get anything she wants no matter the feet she treads on. And basically just a reincarnation of all three personalities from her grandparents and parent. She gets messy but it’s annoying because she’s like an adult and she’s messy. It removes the fun useful messiness that a lot of teams go through. Maybe it was meant to show how messy her environment was or how out of control she was of her own situation.🤷🏾‍♀️
@yours_eve2001
@yours_eve2001 8 месяцев назад
your voice is really nice, wow
@terryparker9237
@terryparker9237 6 месяцев назад
I don't get why everyone thinks the gilmore women are so special. They're pretty and are quirky, but everyone acts like they are perfect people. Actually, they tend to have complicated relationships with the opposite sex. They have learned that people will put them on a pedestal and let them get away with bad behavior. I connect with Luke and Jess. They are emotionally closed off to differing degrees. They are good at the core, and had to learn some lessons to become their best selves. Communication akills have to he learned.
@karenorgan6203
@karenorgan6203 3 месяца назад
Is the marvelous, Mrs. Maisel what happens when Lorelei stays at home?
@vsv2833
@vsv2833 4 месяца назад
Lorelai Gilmore is an absolute pick me. She’s so darn shallow and selfish. She’s always taken people’s kindness for granted and has been a horrible mother to Rory. Also I do not understand the incessant need to keep her mother out of everything. She is absolutely mean and disrespectful towards her parents. And hates everything they do for her and Rory. Like Lorelai has no issue borrowing money from her parents but treats them like shit. Confuses Luke. Keeps beefing with Jess. Also never acts her age. She’s literally the worst Tv mom ever.
@giashouse1186
@giashouse1186 7 месяцев назад
so true!!
@alias.sila.sahin97
@alias.sila.sahin97 8 месяцев назад
Who is Davey 13:48?
@Aly_224
@Aly_224 8 месяцев назад
Never have I ever
@sweetcheeks5775
@sweetcheeks5775 9 месяцев назад
i like the show but rory annoyed the hell out of me from episode one. her downfall was satisfying.
@kacperjurczyk5500
@kacperjurczyk5500 9 месяцев назад
Well done
@mikeberman9270
@mikeberman9270 8 месяцев назад
I've never seen the show. Also never saw the movie, Happy Gilmore. They related?
@brigitte4050
@brigitte4050 7 месяцев назад
Who's Davey
@brandistanley7195
@brandistanley7195 5 месяцев назад
I have one question lol.. who is Davey? is that from a different show? Cause the only Davey I know in Gilmore Girls is Sukis son... Well that I think Lane's boyfriend from her band is named Dave.. I think.. lol. Just curious. Unless I heard her wrong.. then sorry lol.
@IsabelleDeng
@IsabelleDeng 5 месяцев назад
She's talking about Devi from Never Have I Never! It's a great Netflix Show that just finished recently.
@alyssabrown3145
@alyssabrown3145 7 месяцев назад
I really enjoyed the show but I love listening to everyone's opinions on the characters and the stories. It's so refreshing and fun! Your commentary was so enjoyable to listen to!!
@Theomite
@Theomite 8 месяцев назад
I started watching the show when it premiered (I did that with all WB shows back then), but I dropped off pretty fast. I was initially captivated by the Howard Hawks-ish banter and dialogue, but it was so pornographically elitist that I had no interest in seeing Rory and Loralei navigating a cloistered enclave with a shitton of money.
@verbenaseb217
@verbenaseb217 7 месяцев назад
6:43 ITS THE BOOSTER CLUB BABES.
@bree8467
@bree8467 11 месяцев назад
Bae noooo😭
@jaimeerindy4573
@jaimeerindy4573 7 месяцев назад
I have so many controversial opinions about this show and it's characters but somehow it's the one piece of media that I can just say "oh well, it's just like that" and enjoy it anyway. Idk there's some magic hold it has over everyone
@donnarinaldi7085
@donnarinaldi7085 7 месяцев назад
I think the reason you feel nothing during Rory’s emotional scenes is because Alexis isn’t a very good actress. She’s just very stiff. I think they chose her for her looks and not her acting ability. Just my opinion
@rivanaidu8827
@rivanaidu8827 5 месяцев назад
yep
@mkdodson
@mkdodson 7 месяцев назад
ok but to be fair, i KNOW this is a flawed mindset and a jealousy issue, but when lorelai got threatened at the girl who liked luke, i 100% related😭 like i would be pissed too i’m ngl
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