I don't understand why people buy Fake Watches - But now maybe I understand better

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I don't like, agree with, support or want a fake watch but I do want to try and understand why people keep buying them.
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@johnswatchjoint Год назад

Mirrors my experience a few years back when two of my pals worked on the oilrigs. They were naking a fortune but still flaunted the fact that they had bought fake Rolex's. Excuse? Saved a fortune but could show off the brand ....whilst still boasting they were fake...quite bizarre!

@WATCHingJames Год назад

That’s what I was thinking.

@aneeshfroome4464 Год назад

here's the thing: these days you can get super fakes that are so good the only way to tell if it's fake is if you open it up and look at the movement. So the main thing comes to whether or not you have the status to buy that watch. If you are just an average joe and you are walking around with a Royal Oak on your wrist, people may think it's fake even if was real. Most of us won't be able to afford those level of watches. That's why I like Christopher Ward. You can get top shelf quality at a reasonable price and and it's objectively a much better watch than a fake.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Much much better. They are one of the best examples of getting really good watches and still not having to pay too much.

@jorgeolguingarcia Год назад

James, Great video. I agree with your point of view. For starters, I have yet to meet in the flesh someone that is a fan or has a deep interest in watches; and that thing where people almost forget the brand of the watch they are wearing happens very often in the day-to-day. That's why we're here, because out there it's almost impossible to find people excited about wristwatches. Best regards

@WATCHingJames Год назад

It is hard to find others in the real world. I’m lucky to have a couple that I can chat with but this channel is my main outlet for it.

@adk7962 Год назад

Well. There’s a reason if you’re caught with 1000 fake Rolex Watches at customs, you go to prison. If you import a 1000 San Martin Sub Homages, you’re just a business person. Some people think they are both the same, but in society, a line has to be drawn somewhere. Great video as always. I think it says a lot about a person who nonchalantly buys a counterfeit product.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Thank you and good points.

@IMakeWatches Год назад

Because they're cheap? 😂😂😂

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Well. That is certainly part of it. Hahahaha

@marcjames3487 Год назад

Ha, nice intro James. Back in the day whenever I visited Bangkok I made a bee line for the fake watch stalls in the night markets. Who can resist a $40 Rolex Oyster ! Or Longines etc Yep they were fake and didn't last longer than a few years BUT they got me interested in real watches, so I bought my first Seiko and here I am now appreciating all these quality time pieces that don't cost a Rolex :)

@WATCHingJames Год назад

It definitely can be a way into watches and I do see the positive there. Thanks for WATCHing

@dunderhay9169 Год назад

Fascinating! I'm no psychologist, but the haste to admit the watch is fake makes me think they are frightened they will be called out for pretending it is real. The lack of interest in your watch is just typical of shallow narcissistic people, I have met a man who bored me to death about his IWC but showed zero interest in the watch I was wearing.

@goldfools5445 Год назад

No one cares what watch you are wearing. They are only interested in their own. I don’t think that’s necessary shallow or narcissistic. It’s just the way people roll.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

I think you may be right.

@MirrlyonTime Год назад

I have a friend that has a Kermit and Daytona fake Rolex….he was quick to admit they weren’t real, and simply said I bought em because I like them. Straight away he said it was fake as well. He showed me intentionally because he saw my channel, and watches my videos from time to time. As far as the buying a Swiss alternative, I don’t know, the clones/fakes that are out there are really well made, aside from it being fake, the super clones are indeed that, super in quality. The movements in “super clones” are getting more and more difficult to discern the real thing. I had a friend who wanted me to source him wirh a fake, or lead him to where he could get one. I said as a watch enthusiast I couldn’t do that but he could buy plenty of homage watches from Ali….he didn’t want to do that. I think the primary danger is people selling them as authentic, and the super clones can’t be caught by even some more serious watch enthusiasts. Some thoughts….

@WATCHingJames Год назад

I have heard some concerning story’s of people ending up with fakes when they thought they weee buying real. It would be a horrible thing to happen.

@EricsEverydayWatches Год назад

(prostitution, and human trafficking) Good video James. This is one of my favorite of your videos. I’m not into fakes at all. Years ago I thought the only person it harms was the people who buy fakes and the large company who brand name is on it. But now, I realize selling fakes is how crime organizations make money and fund things such as human trafficking. That brings another level of disgust to counterfeit goods, including fake watches.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Thanks Eric. It is a shame it is not publicised more to get that message out.

@paulelliott5600 Год назад

Great topic.....years ago it was the first thing you did when you visited Singapore. Get off the plane, and catch a taxi to Lucky Plaza and get taken in to a back room where there were wall to wall Rolex watch's and Gucci hand bags. I had a fake Rolex that never missed a beat, always told the correct time and lasted for years. Never really gave a thought to how or where they came in those days. Certainly do now!!

@WATCHingJames Год назад

I think it was more like that in the past. Same thing in Bali.

@borassictime918 Год назад

My take is I suspect there are several elements to these four people’s thinking; The person likes to focus on brand names, they’ll also wear high-cost branded trainers, caps, underwear, etc., perhaps also counterfeit, or of questionable origin, so long as its cheap. I suspect you’ll find they’re more likely to spend alot of money on their phone, upgrading, contract, etc. To them it’s the brand name that matters, not that it’s a watch (that’s just jewellery to them). They know they will never be able to afford a genuine watch of that brand, but this is a way to look the part and impress their mates. They have a degree of pride in appearing to own a high-end brand, but in getting a counterfeit (saving themselves a small fortune they don’t have) that is “so good” they are virtually bragging about it (ie “look how clever I’ve been to get this fake”). The subtext to insisting that the counterfeit is really good is to say that, by extension, they are too. So, to those they meet, they’ll show it off (look how clever I’ve been) and to everyone else they just want to impress them. Lastly, they’re not interested in you, or your genuine watch (unless it’s a brand they know and like), because they have narcissistic tendencies and have absolutely no interest in watches per se.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

It is odd to think that there is a priority of a name over actual quality.

@borassictime918 Год назад

@@WATCHingJames Social media is the main driver for this I think as ordinary people see celebs, musicians, the famous, etc., they follow showing off their this or that watch and they want to be like them, or have a piece of their unattainable lifestyle. Big watch brands know this, which is why they all use ambassadors. It’s ’aspirational’ ie all about the brand name, which is why eg Breitlings are so expensive (for what they are) as an access fee to join the club where you’ll find celebrities. Psychologically owning a counterfeit is a bit like standing in line for the celebrity autograph, I suspect.

@EricsEverydayWatches Год назад

Nicely summarized. I think you’re spot on.

@MichaelArchibald-tw2vx Год назад

Interesting, truly weird, but interesting!

@WATCHingJames Год назад

I found it interesting. Hope you do too.

@sivanstar Год назад

James i totally agree! Short story and some rant.. Abt ten years ago i got a g shock from some online website, it seemed odd that the price was low but i thought i found a bargain. It broke on the lugs after 2 months. Since then i realized there are fake ones for alot more brands then i ever thought. I decided i wil never buy a fake one again even if meant to pay extra for my peace of mind. I proudly own 1000+ usd watches and pagani homage that cost 80usd. I love em all and as you i love talking abt my own collection. Buying fake watches makes them feel, in my opinion, like they "screwed the system". Its abt the high they get from it. Its wrong in so many levels and they are spitting at the watchmakers and engineers that worked for hundreds of years to get us where we are now. Above all it's illegal! If i see one i call them out on it! Sorry was a long rant, thank you for talking abt something so important to us all!

@WATCHingJames Год назад

It’s good to talk bout it. It surprised me to see the different brands. And even Casios are being faked. What is the world coming to 😂😂😂

@andrewmurton8379 Год назад

James I totally agree with your take on these fakes, I own a Hamilton and a Steinhart and they are great watches, I will admit to being interested in a fake Moonswatch as I own a couple of the real things and every review I’ve seen says that the fakes are actually better than the originals!! Great video and I loved the intro.😂

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Hahaha thank you. I’ve now seen fake Casios. What is the world coming too 😆

@jboomhauer Год назад

If a fake is almost indistinguishable from the original and costs 100 times less than the original, why would you not buy it? Doesn't it show that some brands are pricing way too high?

@waltwearswatches3056 Год назад

Because you’re supporting an illegal business making money off of someone else’s trademark?

@BCallum Год назад

Thanks for the video. Been there. Done it. Had a fake once...Bought it from AE as sterile. Communicated with the seller, I want sterile. They advised it will be. It wasn't. Complained, AE advised I keep it and get partial refund. I really liked it. Was one of those Seagull Panerai...When I say, I liked it, I really really liked it. Just could not do the "Fake Panerai" thing...had it for 3 months...had to move it on to someone else. I've no issues with photocopy/clomages. I have Steeldive, Steinhart, Glycine, Whitby, San Martin, Invicta, and the list goes on...Cheers!!!

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Thanks for WATCHing

@jazzman5598 Год назад

You’re a good Dude with integrity. Sounds like you need a step up in the company you’re around. Very good vid James.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Hahaha thank you

@MirrlyonTime Год назад

Great video! Loved the back and forth haha nice hat!!!

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Hahahaha. Thanks mate

@jonbravo6262 Год назад

Oarsum vid James! And U are correct about “look at my fake watch”🤩syndrome. I’ve been down the watch rabbit hole 50 years this year, & I meet quite a few watch guys passionate to chat about their watch or collection. I work with a guy who is passionate about his fake sprite with a crown logo and a ‘genuine’ eta movt inside… (drives a beema), he’s not into dialogue about any of my watches, even when I showed him a gen bluesy! (He probably thought mines a fake) In contrast I chatted at length yesterday with an 87 yr old Digger Bob, wearing a “Lest We Not Forget” dialled fluted bezel watch his wife gifted him, his daily beater. I guess the ‘feeling’ and modern day concept of wearing a watch is exciting for our masculinity, and then there is the “look at Mee” status of the logo people for social status in their tribe.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Exactly. Thanks for WATCHing

@magstheonlyone Год назад

I bought a fake watch once because I like the red silicone strap it came with, it was like 10$ and I'm still using it for my dive watches, it's so comfortable. I don't even know where the watch is anymore. Other than that I'll be embarrassed by owning a fake watch.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Now that’s a good reason to buy one.

@martinowl Год назад

Great content. The theme of the conversations doesn’t surprise me. Absolutely no interest in watches, just want to wear the brand. They probably were wearing knock offs too.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Thanks for WATCHing

@thegorn Год назад

What is strange is asking strangers about their watches.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Hahahaha. Very true

@butnugit Год назад

From my personal experience, anytime I've asked someone about a cool watch they're wearing, they're either caught off guard or confused about what I'm asking. Just goes to show that most people don't give a crap about watches, even the people that wear them. 😂

@astrobusa Год назад

Its perspective. We take watches seriously. To some they are a fashion accessory and a bit of bling. There's no deep appreciation of the quality or workmanship, its all about the look and clout. The 'fake it until you make it' brigade don't care about authenticity. A fake watch is just a prop. Like their fake handbags / sports shoes / clothing / jewellery / hats / team jerseys. They don't view buying fakes as illegal or immoral. To them its like buying costume jewellery. What matters is the look, not the price. When fashions change next season, a lot of 'current year' props will be sent to the Op shop and a whole new wardrobe of fakes will be bought cheap so they can keep up with the current trends.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Thanks for WATCHing

@user-kt7fj6jw8c 6 месяцев назад

Hi James Great channel thanks for all of the content I was given 2 fakes ages ago I hate them and would never wear them however they play a part in my collection Whenever I go on holiday I safely store my good watches and put the fakes in my watch box If I get robbed and they are taken the rats will be very disappointed when they get a good look at them Take care Brian (Blyth U.K)

@WATCHingJames 6 месяцев назад

Hahahahaha. That’s great. I love the way you think. Thanks for WATCHing

@chrislake777 Год назад

fantastic video

@WATCHingJames Год назад

👍

@jarrettbullivant5522 Год назад

They weren't immune to a particular watch's marketing and branding but they wouldn't dream of spending that sort of money on a watch. I get it, if you have a casual aquaintance with watches, why would you ever consider such an expensive purchase, it's just another piece of jewellery. They buy the fake watch becuase it's cost effective and gives them the look they like. They probably think people are mad to pay so much more for the real thing which is why they have no quarms letting you know it's a fake because to them it's excellent value. They aren't exposing themselves to the risk of an expensive repair, insurance, or worrying about where they would feel safe being seen wearing it. It's all the bang without the buck. At the other end of the scale I know that a lot of people who own a Rolex have absolutely no idea about watches. They understood it was a well considered brand, was reasurringly expensive and more importantly, knew no one could look down on their chose. Oh, you've only got a Rolex! will absolutely never happen to them. They are guaranteed to never be embarrassed in this way. Rather like why all celebrities have iphones. They know nothing about mobile phones, they just know that it's considered to be the best brand. They will buy this one watch and just wear it until it stops working one day. And in all that time they will very likely never give it a second thought. So, in the end who is the real philistine?

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Very true. I have lots to say about Rolex. But might keep this opinions to myself. Hahahaha you don’t want to upset the Rolex fans.

@jarrettbullivant5522 Год назад

@@WATCHingJames The third part of this triangle is that most of the claims watch manufacturers use to sell you their very expensive watches are built on sand, almost none of them really stand up to scrutiny. These are probably the two most famous examples.The Rolex Explorer wasn't the first watch to reach the summit of everest, or any other Rolex model for that matter, it was a Smith's Deluxe. The Omega moonwatch you buy today has a totally different movement to the one in the watches that landed on the moon, so aren't even replicas. NASA actually tested an earlier version of the watch so the one they ended using wasn't the one they tested. Turns out space just isn't a difficult environment for watches. Omega only found out when they saw their watch is press photo's, they had no idea NASA were using it. The reality is these companies do what they need to sell enough product to stay in business. It's us who crave the magic so they just give it to us and we love them for it.

@KillingTimeWithNorman Год назад

Very interesting encounters. Regarding them not wanting to talk further about watches... I found that with ADs in Vegas. You put your Polerouter (Or *insert unique, horologically significant watch here*) on the counter to try on a *insert high end brand here* - and not even a "Oh that's an interesting watch". Zero interest. I can definitely see how waitlists etc drive people to homages, but a fake would just give me the ick.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Me too. I’ve had that experience as well.

@KillingTimeWithNorman Год назад

@@WATCHingJames So crazy.

@goldfools5445 Год назад

No one buys fake watches. That’s why there is no huge fake watch industry, no watches in drinking coffee and talking about watches are fake. They all just got the call from the AD then post it on a teenagers wrist. 🤷‍♂️

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Hahahaha yes

@butnugit Год назад

Do you think that these four people were up front about it being a fake because they knew you had a watch channel/ interest in watches? Was that even a factor?

@WATCHingJames Год назад

I don’t think so. Maybe they felt they had been caught out. But it was the enthusiasm that surprised me.

@petermartin9494 3 месяца назад

Why own a fake watch? 1. You own the real one but you are worried that you might be mugged so you wear a fake instead. 2. You want to see if a certain expensive watch is right for you. Get the fake and wear it for a while to see if you like it. You will never be able to borrow a real watch for a similar experience. 3. To get the watch you want you have to jump through stupid hoops. Waiting lists, or even worse, paying above retail to flippers. Bypass the whole idiotic process by getting a fake. To me the biggest sin in today's watch world is to pay above retail to flippers. That is much worse than buying a fake since you are creating an artificial market and you are making it difficult for people to obtain the watches they want because all the watches are in the safes of speculators.

@WATCHingJames 3 месяца назад

Thanks for WATCHing. Be careful with the idea surrounding number 1. If you are mugged because they think you have a real luxury watch you can still be seriously injured in that incident.

@scatterbrain9490 Год назад

Good stuff

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Thank you

@NaNByZero Год назад

A friend of mine has a fake Tag Heuer. He always admits that it is fake but he also says, it’s cheap and runs five minutes fast per day. He hasn’t been wearing it since two years or so. Nowadays he is wearing a real Mondaine and a real Maurice Lacroix. I think his fake days are over. 😀⏰🍹🍹

@WATCHingJames Год назад

If it helps people get into watches then that at least is a positive

@brianmckibben2300 Год назад

It must be for the flex. Discount form over function.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Thanks for WATCHing

@tonyalbrecht7169 Год назад

I wonder why people buy something like this 🤔

@WATCHingJames Год назад

That’s what I was wondering too.

@aneeshfroome4464 Год назад

Yeah tbh I wouldn't buy a fake watch. Even Homage watches seem sus to me

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Thanks for WATCHing

@scarredhandsreviews Год назад

i would rather buy Homage watch...not a fake..

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Me too. Every time

@MichaelArchibald-tw2vx Год назад

Form follows function, if it can't perform as intended it's a failure! I got the best Rolex fake I could find in Mexico when I lived there, it literally fell apart on my wrist the first week of work clearing a property, digging foundations, gathering stones for building, mixing cement etc. ... My expectations weren't 'high' by any measure, but surprised I was! These days I've been wearing a SteelDive Cpt Willard that seems indestructible thus far, 2 yrs+ and counting. No fakes for me!

@WATCHingJames Год назад

When you can get a watch like the steeldive for that price it does not make sense to buy a fake. Thanks for WATCHing

@MichaelArchibald-tw2vx Год назад

Interesting about the counterfeit Rolex owners, can't say they make any sense to me.

@JudasIscariot81 Год назад

Watching this while wearing my fake Rolex.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Thanks for WATCHing

@JudasIscariot81 Год назад

@@WATCHingJames sure thing!

@barryvercueil2346 Год назад

Ha ha ha. Brilliant video. I've been there. 😅

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Thanks Barry

@billcore6295 Год назад

They aren't watch enthusiast....that's fine.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Thanks for WATCHing

@thebaldwatchcollector Год назад

I absolutely hate fake watches and I totally agree if they spent a decent amount of money on a fake that they could have picked up a decent Swiss brand.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Exactly. I have Hamilton and glycines cheaper and better. I don’t get it.

@brianmsahin Год назад

They wanted the logo but readily admitted it was fake. They didn't want to be caught out and subconsciously they're feeling a bit guilty about owning one maybe. I think these people are not watch enthusiasts, just brand enthusiasts. I remember years ago buying a watch on the street in Istanbul with the express purpose of taking it apart to see how an automatic works. When I got it home, lo and behold there was a very tiny Tag Heuer badge on it. It was the only fake I got and it was unintentional. Anyway I tool it apart , had a cheap Chinese movement inside it and was interesting at the time to look at the mechanics. I never bothered putting it back together. I think if I was wearing fake watches I just wouldn't feel good about myself.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

They were definitely not enthusiasts.

@marcjames3487 Год назад

yep, you nailed it. After a few years of those I realised I just didn't feel good about myself. Now my collection ain't expensive but they're real and I love them !

@XXXXXX-xw7zy Год назад

Мне не понятно что плохого в том, что я куплю подделку дорогих часов, которые мне очень нравятся, на оригинал которых у меня никогда не будет денег? Если подделка хорошего качества, то какой смысл мне переплачивать деньги за бренд?

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Thanks for WATCHing

@MrLpgd 10 месяцев назад

Tolkien fan good sir!

@WATCHingJames 10 месяцев назад

Big fan

@samsantana Год назад

I beg to differ with your opinion about 'the people who buy' fake watches. I am a collector and have been for over 30 years. I have everything from my trusty $30 Casio to an Omega Aqua Terra Worldtimer GMT which cost me over $15000. In between I have Chinese, Japanese, Italian, German and of course Swiss-made watches as well as a few Chinese made homages from brands like Pagani Design, San Martin etc. I've also purchased 3-4 fake watches one of which is the exact Aqua Terra I own. I bought that fake as part of my trial to see if I would bond with the style of the watch, or more to the point, whether the style of the watch blended with my lifestyle and the way I dress, what I do for work, my social outings etc. The fakey cost me around $500 and is of similar quality to the San Martin for example yet it's the best $500 I've spent since had I not tried the 'other' fake watches I would have probably ended up buying the original and then completely regretting the purchase and losing much, much more than what those fakes cost me. I've kept the fake and wear it when I travel to not-so-safe places or if I'm going for a swim or out hiking. I've had it for over two years, it's still going and serving more purposes than what I had initially bought it for. Is it the same as my Omega? aesthetically, almost... quality? no, sense of pride? not at all but knowing it cost me 1/30th of the Omega and gets half the wrist time makes me want to keep it and always brings a smile to my face, the reason I collect watches in the first place.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Great to hear another point of view. Thank you for WATCHing

@dazzlerjohnwatchman8215 Год назад

This is one of your best videos. It's called delusional James. They are not watch collectors sadly they are all about status and ego. Very sad individuals who possibly need therapy. Ali Express do sell many fakes not just homages. Great to know it's not just me who has suffered this type of individual.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Thanks John. If nothing else is was interesting to see what other people were thinking.

@darthgiggity7948 Год назад

^ And this, children, is example of drugstore psychology. Do not attempt to copy this phoney.

@watchsixto Год назад

The one with the Panerai his might be real 😆 and like one comment says they did it so they won't be called out on their fake watch and 9/10 they probably want the name like "rolex" and they don't really care about the heritage of the watch like you pointed out when you showed them yours

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Yep. That’s pretty much it I think.

@naomiredpath4351 Год назад

👍

@WATCHingJames Год назад

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@Spaealien Год назад

Can you do a video on the Seiko SRPE93? Just about to order!!!!

@WATCHingJames Год назад

That’s a great watch. I’ve had the manta ray king turtle and really liked it.

@darkki94 Год назад

Well a San Martin can go toe to toe with a Seiko no problem and even beat it. Liking the style ? Get a homage , but a fake is lying .

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Thanks for WATCHing

@Adam-7_7_7 Год назад

Im thinking about getting a knock-off 'F91w' ,......thoughts 🤔?

@j.p.9522 Год назад

It would be impressive if someone could make a fake F91W that's cheaper than the real thing.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Hahahaha. I just got the real one. It’s tiny.

@nenadkojic7125 Год назад

Wow. Generalizing from the few (you) to the many (us) is always rubbish. Fact is I can get watches such as Sinn that are nigh on undistinguible from real for less than 10% of the price.

@WATCHingJames Год назад

Thanks for WATCHing