I bought my Polestar 2 Launch Edition over 3 years ago and definitely identify with the "wanted an electric sedan but didn't want a Tesla" feeling. Have loved driving my Polestar 2 so far and am considering the Polestar 4 as my next.
I’m in the UK and looking to snag a 2020/21 LR DM. To insure a standard range 2021 model 3 worth £18k is about £4,800 for me But to insure a P2 LR DM is £1,800 No brainer
By competing at a "high level", I assume you're talking about the price. I fully believe that the failure of the EV market is primarily due to the high cost of Electric Vehicles. $88+K for this Polestar. I have ZERO chance of ever affording such a vehicle. I think very few people do. I would very much like to see Out of Spec Reviews restricting themselves to semi-affordable vehicles. Maybe create a new channel - Out of Spec with Prices Out of Sight" for these kind of vehicles.
@@Tech-Tempest these Chinese made cars should be a lot cheaper but Geely is milking it as long as they can. Maybe it’s the tariffs that make them so outrageously expensive?
Yes. Conventional wisdom is that leaving NMC batteries at high SOC and high temperatures is bad. If this is non-linear it warrants further investigation.
SPA2-platform was developed by Volvo and will only be used by Volvo and Polestar. As you know, Volvo is more independent from Geely than for example Zeekr and they do their own R&D, engineering and have their own factories. They have no factories outside of China and the US that are capable of producing the SPA2 platform currently, which is why it will be produced in China and in the US. It is also a smart decision, since most PS3:s will not go to Europe but to the US and China (bigger market for larger vehicles like this). The European Volvo factories are either producing ICE-vehicles (because they still need those to survive), or the really expensive high end Volvos like XC90, S90 (that would be Sweden). Volvo is currently building a new EV only factory in Europe which will increase their European output of electric vehicles. They are in this transitionary period where they need to keep producing the hybrids and PHEV:s to survive, but they also need capacity for EV:s, so they have decided to keep the European factories producing ICE/PHEV and letting the newer factories in China and the US produce the EV:s until the European factories can undergo rerigging, and European battery production can take place in Sweden (Northvolt joint venture called NOVO in Gothenburg is currently being built). Just adding some nuance here to the issue at hand, it is a very complex situation for these traditional automakers. Let's face it, Polestar has to go through these same challenges because they have no production and are relying on traditional automakers (Volvo, Geely) for production.
It can charge 250kW on Tesla Superchargers here in Europe - that's why it is rated for 250kW, and the Superchargers are already CCS2 and open to other brands in Europe. It'll do 250kW on Tesla once they open it to Volvo/Polestar in North America.
Loved the review, but really wish you had pushed the button in the middle of the seat adjustment knob to bring up the menu where you can adjust the bolsters, seat tilt, lumbar support, and most important of all- the massaging seats 😄 can't wait to see you *RIP* it through some canyons
Nice review. Ordered my polestar 3 two months ago and will deliver in November, so excited. I drove polestar 2 for 3 years and very satisfied and that's why I ordered my polestar 3. I like the polestar's design so much. Especially the interior, the design is simple but not looks cheap, when you sit in the car you know you are in a $75,000+ car. Also the safety feature is awesome, it help several times to avoid accidents during my three years polestar 2 drive. You should know polestar is part of Volvo which means it is not a start up company, their quality and safety are from Volvo which has very high reputation. I suggest anyone interested to test drive, polestar is a car you need to feel and drive.
Love my Polestar 2 RWD and was thinking my next car would be a P4, but now I’m thinking P3! Would be fantastic for road tripping and car camping around Australia.
45:30 μg = micro gram, 1 qubic meter is about 27-30 qubic feet. But like you said, most air quality is done in ppm and separated by size. Like PM2.5 is the kind that can cross the blood-brain-barrier.
Interesting in how Polestar uses science in measuring outdoor temp, they initiate the sensing when the car is in motion (which make for a more reliable reading not as subject to HVAC influence), Tesla says it does not work so on the latest software update goes to web for the closest temperature, which makes no sense to us Canadians when we travel through he mountains and want to know what the outdoor temp is when driving especially in winter with little or no cell service.
Polestar is by far my favorite ev brand, the styling and design is so crisp and modern without being cold and austere like Tesla. Also adore the google based software. Can’t wait to own a used 2 or 3 someday when they depreciate a lot
I drove a P3 a few days ago in the UK. A short accompanied drive along their set route but enough to get a favourable impression. Later this month they will offer proper test drives so I might book again to try it out across a mixed route of my own choosing. The car is impressive. Fast, tight and competent. Smallish boot. Google maps. Should do well even with the high price tag.
I test drove this about two weeks ago and absolutely love it. Probably one of the best driving cars I have ever driven, and I have driven a lot of high end cars. They had the 4 in the showroom and really loved it also. Can't wait to drive the 4 to make a decision on which one to get.
With the tariffs, they can be “forgiven” for each car the automaker exports from us built versions of the vehicle. So if they export the Polestar 3 built in SC to say Canada and Mexico, Polestar can get some credits on tariffs for other imports.
Wish there was a "Out of Spec Audio" or "Out of Spec Sounds"!.... and knowing Kyle's ability to find nerds, we would have ourselves a car stereo review channel! Make some standards, some graphs, and a respected opinion! Maybe add a standardized portion of interior noise of the car too at a number of speeds. Would definitely subscribe! And then after this, add "Out of Spec Lights"!! And do night reviews of all the lights inside and out, and a standardized test of headlight performance! Others on RU-vid already do this, but knowing Kyle, the repeatability and nerdiness of Out of Spec anything will win over whatever is already on RU-vid.
SPA and SPA2 were developed specifically by Volvo. Volvo is the semi-autonomous Swedish company in the Geely Group. Polestar 3 will be made in the Volvo factory in Ridgeville, South Carolina.
@@ChristopherOden US consumers, and probably European consumers will get the South Carolina P3s. And I never said the P3 was produced exclusively in South Carolina.
@@ChristopherOden With EVs with 500+hp selling for $40k in China, polestar is done there long ago. Polestar2 was 50% off for years in China, still didn't sell many
Polestar is not much different than Volvo. Basically, it's a bunch of Volvo designers and engineers and sports tuners from Volvo that are now working for Polestar in Goteborg, Sweden. The only Polestar that is not like one is the 4. The rest are a lot like Volvos, just sportier with a slightly different styling, but still related to Volvo's styling.
Polestar is known for their sustainability even the steel is made with steel that doesn't use coal think it's made in Sweden(steel for it) in a factory that uses Hydrogen instead of Coal and the EV Haters go on about children in the Congo on the cobalt they can tell them to 'piss off' and show the evidence that it didn't unlike the fossil fuel for that same EV Hater that does use it to remove the sulfur. One reason I love Polestar.
I traded my Model 3 for a Polestar 2 2024. I don't like Elon and his politics much, but the main reason for switch was how bad Teslas quality was. After 3 years with it I had so many issues and so many service appointments I just gave up and sold it. So far I love the Polestar 2, and the improvements in the latest versions make a lot of difference. The Polestar 3 seems really nice though, in a whole different class!
The difference in the range calculation is actually because for the performance pack car, they had to use the performance drive mode. Where in the normal car they could use the normal drive mode. Just to add to the confusion. Insane car, i want one and might order one!
Finally, a superb, long video on the hidden gem that is Polestar. I'm waiting for the future Polestar 5 to come out of production so I can pre-order it.
@jeffs6090 turn signals are also used for the hazard light function. Automotive lighting engineer here. I agree. Amber turn signals should be required by law, and they should reduce the required projected area in the U.S. to make it easier to implement for automakers.
I read a lot of comments that it's too expensive. People don't seem to get that this is the "SUV" flagship, same quality as a Volvo EX90 and it's supposed to be $75K to $100K. That's not outrageous at all for this car. Most reviews say it drives as well as anything in its class and that' it is as well built/finished as its competitors. Just because it is called "Polestar" and people don't know its history doesn't mean it is overpriced. It's not.
Far too expensive in Australia - starts at (in $AUD) $148k no options, $183k with the performance pack, sound and seat upgrades - to put that into perspective that would get you 2 model Y performance vehicles and have $5k left over or at the top end it's competing with the Audi Q8 e-tron, MB EQS and Porche Macan Turbo electric. At the end of the day it's a Swedish styled and Chinese made vehcile with very suspect software competing against established German marques. I have the top spec XC60 T8 Polsetar PHEV but I'm not kidding myself it's in the same class as the Audi, MB, BMW or Porsche alternatives.
It is overpriced. I am basing this not on your claim on what it is supposed to be but on what it actually is - and that is a medium size SUV at the size of a model y with medium interior quality and okish range.
@@mondvogel6124 It does not have medium interior quality. Have you been in one? And the ones out are pre-production and still the quality is excellent. It's not overpriced one bit. It should cost what a Volvo EX90 does as it has the same quality, they share components. I don't care about range. Range doesn't determine quality.
@@mondvogel6124 Fine then. The quality of the Polestar 3 is very high IMO. I've sat and been driven in or have driven a number of cars and the Polestar uses alternative sustainable materials, ,just like Volvo does, often the same materials as Volvo, and they are of high quality. Plus, these cars are very solidly built. In terms of range, no, it doesn't equal how good a car is. It's like fuel economy. That's not how I judge expensive cars. I judge them as cars. How well are they built. How well do they filter out road imperfection and noise. What type of noises do they make. Etc. The tech is a part of the car but the car as a machine is what I look at first. Polestar is using the Porsche Cayenne as a benchmark for the Polestar 3. It's not trying to be in any Model Y type of tier and that's something people need to understand. This is the flagship Polestar SUV, not the middle market Polestar 4 that more competes with the Y. Do I think it's as good as a Cayenne? Probably not as Porsche at least in terms of chassis and steering input is hard to beat plus their ride refinement is very high. But if they are at 85 percent or better, that's a car worth looking at. Lucid is making fine cars too. It took some time but they are. Good cars aren't the name on them. They're the engineering teams behind them working with other teams. Polestar has some solid engineering teams, plus design, plus Volvo know how how to build cars, behind them.
Always enjoyable your reviews. Only thing I would say is that performance is about way more than just acceleration. The way Polestar approaches it, mechanically is very impressive and one of the reasons why it is so nice to drive.
I’m happy to hear the positive review. I’ve been anxious for its release so I’m glad it held up to expectations. I’m really excited about the Polestar 5 but for a midsize SUV this is damn near perfect. As long as it doesn’t come in 500 boxes and you need to assemble it yourself, Swedish style 😂
Great to see the super rare Polestar 1. Good to show the Polestar 1, 2, 3 & 4. Went to see the Polestar stand at the UK Goodwood Festival of Speed this year. Great to see the concept BST Polestar 6 there.
Well here in Canada this car is such a better value than the Tesla Model X and better car for that matter, just a plain no brainier! Well done Polestar!
The leather in ALL Polestar cars in any country comes from a company based in Bridge Of Weir just outside Glasgow Scotland. The reason I know is I was in Polestars Studio in the Silverburn shopping centre and the staff told me the family who supply them have been in the store a few times.
The torque vectoring clutch system allows for the rear motor to be completely disconnected from the wheels in non-performance mode to get better efficiency and range 😎
why are we standardizing $100k is fine for a new vehicle, don't do that i really liked your videos and the nerdy stuff about ev's , i my self drive a ev but no , if i still have will power, i will say NO to standardizing buying a new vehicle for $100k .
@@Shiftheads Do you compare the Model X to a Ioniq 5? No. You compare it to cars in its price range and refinement range like the Model Y. A Polestar 3 does not compare to a Model Y. It is a higher-rung vehicle. Polestar 4 possible, but not Polestar 3.
@@benjaminsmith2287 the model x which is priced closer has way more room, range, and acceleration. The model y still has more cargo capacity than the polestar even though it's larger. So my point is the polestar doesn't really for anywhere to compete. No 3rd row for a price of 85k loaded? Why would anyone buy this thing instead of a 5k mile model x plaid
If you want some music to get on camera reactions to sound systems, use something from Everyday Astronaut like Mercury Redstone. He explained on Twitter how his music is free to use with on screen credit. SpaceX and Rocket Lab frequently play his music without copyright strike.
It's not complicated. The cars are numbered in order of (anticipated) release like iPhones. Unfortunately, the 3’s release was delayed due to technical issues with the platform which resulted in the 4 being released before the 3. The nomenclature has nothing to do with size or power, its simply a naming system based entirely on the (anticipated) order of release like the iPhone.
well. I hated those ID.4 window switches, until I drove one for a week. Then I noticed, that I really don't need the rear that often. it's so rarely, that it really doesnt matter.
Nice review. One correction though. The EPA rating isn't different just because the wheel and tire combos. It's that the Performance Pack and standard cars have a different default setting for engaging and disengaging the rear motor. By default the non-Performance cars will turn off the rear motor while cruising, making the car effectively FWD unless driving conditions or your right foot, demand otherwise. (or you can select "Performance" in the driver settings, which then will keep the rear motor engaged). The Performance Pack cars are exactly the opposite. They are delivered with the Performance drive setting as the default (both motors stay engaged), and you would need to select "Range" in the driver's settings to have it turn off the rear motor when it's not needed. So it's that motor management, along with the wheels/tires, that creates the EPA difference, since the EPA test must be done on the default settings. The Polestar 4 is/will be the same, just it's the front motor on that one that it will turn on/off, or not.
Polestar 13:58 the naming is based on the order they were released but yh it makes no sense if you think it's based on size like every other car with numbers for names. To make it more complicated apparently the next generation Polestar 2 will the 7 if they carry on with this naming system.
YS is the code for Sweden. SAAB had YS3 and VOLVO YV1 or YV4. POLESTAR has YSM in Sweden, LPS in China and no extra code I could find for US build cars.
I visited the Polestar showroom yesterday. Both the Polestar 3 and 4 were on display. Very nice cars. Personnaly, I would prefer the PS 3 as it has fully framed windows whereas the PS4 has frameless windows. We've had bad experiences with frameless windows in the past. My dad had a Sunbeam Rapier and the windows would rattle and leak with annoying wind noise and whistles, and so did my Toyota Celica. I know this is the trend nowadays, but I would pick the full frame doors if I had the choice and would take the 3 over the 4 for this reason (and the TM3 MY, S, iX, i4, Taycan, Macan, etc.). Just listen to the door closure sound on the 3 vs the 4 side by side. The 3 sounded like it was 'airtight'. The PS3 charging flap itself is fitted with a rubber seal so the socket covers are unnecessary, unlike my BMW's flap which is unsealed and the inside gets wet in the rain.
The polestar 3 has been on display for a long time at the Volvo/polestar showroom at the local shopping mall. It’s a gorgeous vehicle and the front air ducts that allow air to go up over the hood is a stunning detail. I wish it wasn’t a chinese manufacturer or else I’d be seriously interested.
Apparently BMW cut costs and they’re not using the fancy charge port flaps anymore. Just saw the same style cheap plug cover as on this car on a new i5
28:30 Wow, I think I just learned something, indirectly from Kyle's comment. I always wondered why most cars don't have rear amber turn signals. Amber turn signals detract from the available space for brake lights and taillights. And unfortunately, even though LED lights could have an amber light and a red light share the same space, your amber light would detract from the area of another lamp that would normally be red. I don't know what would really be the best solution for that dilemma.
32:49 The huge second row might be due to the platform being built for Chinese brands in tandem. Rear seat leg room is a big point of emphasis on higher-end vehicles in China.
There is well over a thousand P3 Launch Edition already on US soil as of first of July. Probably closer to 2000 by now. Will not be subject to 100% tariff. Still has the ongoing 27.5 % tariff. My P3 has been here since the end of May. Launch Edition deliveries subject to final delivery software deployment.
Great first drive, I’m a previous poster to owner, i had a preorder for this but it got delayed. Ended up getting Rivian R1T, but i will be test driving it on Saturday
Thank you Kyle and Jordan for another great video. I put my order in for the Midnight Blue full spec Polestar 3. I love my EV6, however, this checked some of the missing boxes.
The Polestar 3 rollout has been a complete cluster but given what Ford did with the Mach E and Cadillac with the Lyric it might just be par for the EV course.
From a current Tesla owner question - if I have the Tesla wall charger and I buy one of these to replace my Tesla - what issues will I have or can I even use it? must I replace that wall charger?
We can also test drive Polestar 3 in Finland. I would consider Polerstar 3, but I need more info on it and I need to know if it is better for the price than Lucid in Europe.
They have a prototype 3 in San Jose's Valley Fair Mall. Only door that would open was REAR PASSENGER DOOR, no Frunk, no Trunk, 3 sales guys in the showroom with nothing to show. Pretty sad.
That´s nice car - I didn't know that it's already on the road. I only feel that the interior is too much Ikea design - simplistic - for me in this category, works better in the EX30. Filling the line of contenders for the next race to Vegas :)))) Any excuse for seeing more of it will do. It should get olympic! We should see like every 3 months? 6 months ? a new one.
How do you rate NVH/suspension cushiness to Audi etron/Q8 etron? Wondering if I should wait for this to enter the used market or just pull the trigger on a used etron. My highest priorities are quiet/comfort (and stereo)
Test drove the Polestar 3 a couple of weekends ago. The backseat is comically spacious. It is a HEAVY car and it felt heavy even with firm steering and sportiest suspension setting. My C40 is much more agile. I would probably like the Polestar 4 more if it weren’t for the windowless rear, which is a nonstarter for me.
i believe they've said the framing for the rear screen, reduces the head room in the back of the car. so its not the glass it self but how to safely put it in the car.