I wanted to quit drinking so I admitted to my supervisor I was hitting the beers heavy on my off time. I self admitted and went through inpatient PHP and IOP. When my med card was about to go out the examiner made me go to a SAP even though I was not required to. Its kind of a racket and really made me rethink why I would want to work a job in a industry that considered off duty drinking a violation.
I went to a DOT testing site and the medical Tech that was reading the temperature of my sample dumped it in the sink then threw it in the tbash. According to DOT's rules and regulations regarding urine specimens and out of temp specimen must still be submitted for testing as well as a direct observation sample where they watch me pee. They told my supervisors that I could just come back with new lab orders and it flagged me as a fail and now I'm trying to Sue the hospital and my employer because the hospital did not perform their job responsibilities properly or follow DOT regulations and my employer also did not follow DOT regulations and they should have known that if I left it would be deemed a fail. Nobody told me it would be a fail if I left but I did find out while researching some information that it counts as a fail if you leave and I don't know what to do or who to talk to this is probably the lowest point I've ever been in in my life
Going through the same thing here man.. Brothers? Lol. You have to go through the SAP. Pay some money. Turn your license in. It's a run around for sure.
@@AMVRebirth I think it's absolutely ridiculous that there isn't some type of verification program that you could go through that determines that you're not a drug user and that after examination of the facts that it's all a misunderstanding or a mistake on the Clinic's part. There's no reason my entire career should be shattered just because somebody was too stupid to know how to do Drug screens but I can say that because I was too stupid to know that if you left it counted as a fail I was just doing what my boss told me so I didn't lose my job
Yo stop lying lmao you was using that synethic urine and you fuc*ed up the temperature. You are a man be accountable for your actions and deal with it. Stop with all the extra "im trying to sue" you are only lying to yourself. Everyone knows at any drug test if you leave you fail, that is common knowledge.
Regulate weed like alcohol, if you drink alcohol on the weekends, i guess you need substance abuse as well, that would make the majority of people that exist go through sap, every driver needs to park their trucks on 4-20 in support
The two problems that currently exist is that marijuana doesn't leave your system the way alcohol does, as well as it being illegal on a federal level. Until the federal government legalizes it, this won't become a reality.
There is nothing random about my company picking me and a handful of other guys all the time about 80% of guys never take one. And they contact the employee first not the employer
I understand your frustration with frequent drug testing while others seem to be exempt. It's important to address your concerns with your employer or the person in charge of testing to ensure fairness. Safety is the priority, so discussing the selection process could provide some clarity.
Thanks for sharing your experience. It’s important to understand that even one-time use of cannabis can result in a positive drug test, especially in trucking where safety is a top priority. The SAP program is designed to help drivers get back on track, and it’s a critical step for returning to work. Stay focused on the process, and you’ll get through it!
What if I quit my job in the morning after my night shift then get called by my manager that he needs to see me in the office in person I did not know for what at the moment turns out I went to see him that same day in the afternoon after my 10 hr rest but he never showed up and got told by a supervisor that I need to do a random but I had already quit earlier and had a new job line up for next week so I called HR and notified her about the situation she said she would take care of it with Dot compliance and don’t need to take the drug test. Well turns out my new job calls me the next day saying they need to check my clearinghouse cuz there was a change, well I went and check my clearinghouse and turns out my former employer put on my clearinghouse DRUG TEST REFUSAL also I am clean and have nothing to hide been with my cdl for 12 years and never had a problem like this. now I can’t get a job anywhere as of now… Help anyone?!! 😢
Hello! I am a new driver and am looking for info on how to sign up to get tested for drugs and alcohol. Is there any place near where I live, in Oakland CA? Or is there any recommendations of companies I can schedule to test with? Thanks in advance! 🙏🏿
Thank you for your question! We are located in central Minnesota, so we are not aware of any specific locations for testing in the Oakland, CA area. However, we do know that many clinics provide testing. Here is a link to a map where you can find some locations in your area: dki.health-street.net/?pkw=%2Boakland%20%2Bca%20%2Bdrug%20%2Btesting&locationID=9020066&interestID=1014080&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwyqWkBhBMEiwAp2yUFvQNqtdIV2iIfztLZABWBwLqjVlT9wwiBJHDZSfkvVr-hJy3leVqHBoCNBQQAvD_BwE Additionally, here is a link to an article from our learning center that further explains the topics discussed in this video: blog.drive4ats.com/drug-and-alcohol-clearinghouse-helpful-information#_ga=2.132547726.1460215964.1686576092-668379213.1679320821
If I get hired at a new company after testing positive, will they still look for me on the clearing house if I’ve been hired as a dock worker and not to driver?
Yes, your positive DOT drug test result will likely be in the Clearinghouse, and new employers, even for non-driving roles, can access this information. Be transparent with your new employer about the positive result, as it may impact your employment.
I had a failed oral fluid test but I called the lab they said we see no positive test in my records. Been 4 months and nothing showing in my clearinghouse will I be able to drive still ?
It sounds like there might be a mix-up with your test results. If the lab has confirmed no positive test in your records and nothing is showing in your clearinghouse even after four months, you should technically be clear to drive. However, I'd recommend double-checking with your employer or the relevant DOT office to ensure all records are accurate and up-to-date. It's always best to have everything confirmed officially to avoid any future issues on the road.
Thanks for the question. I just talked with our compliance manager and she said yes. DOT regulation requires reporting to the clearinghouse for any failed test.
Hey there! It's great that you're reaching out with your concerns about the DOT drug test and the SAP program. It's important to remember that each situation can be unique, but I'll do my best to offer some general guidance. If you have a commercial learner's permit (CLP) and are worried about potentially failing a DOT drug test, the first thing you should do is stay calm. Failing a drug test doesn't necessarily mean the end of your commercial driving career. The next step would be to contact your employer or the company you applied to and let them know about your situation. They might have their own policies and procedures to follow in such cases. Honesty is key here, as it's better to be upfront about any issues. In many cases, if you do fail a DOT drug test, you may be required to complete a Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) program as part of the process to regain eligibility for your commercial driver's license. The SAP program is designed to help individuals overcome substance abuse issues and get back on track. Remember, everyone makes mistakes, and what's important is how you handle the situation and take steps to address it. Your willingness to comply with the necessary steps, like the SAP program, can demonstrate your commitment to safety and responsibility. Always consult with your employer, a qualified SAP, or the relevant authorities for specific guidance tailored to your situation. Best of luck, and I hope things work out for you! 🚚👍
What happens if your halfway thru the follow up testing after RTD, and you decide trucking isnt for you anymore so you decide to pursue an entirely different career? Does your cdl go back to prohibited? Or are you just on the clearhouse for the remainder of the five years?
If you fail, you'll still be marked as a failed test under the Clearinghouse. As for the 5 year comment, a failed test does not fall off of your record after 5 years. You need to go through the SAP program to have it removed.
@@OverTheRoadATS I understand... That wasnt what I was asking. My question was referring to what happens if you decide to quit trucking while your halfway thru your follow up testing (the 6 required after returning to duty) I know your on clearing house for 5 years but does leaving the trucking career affect your cdl if you dont finish the follow up tests?..
I'm upset today because I was fired because I was told that I failed a DOT Federal drug test and I had Trace amounts of marijuana I do not do drugs or alcohol I don't drink and I don't know what to do next
Sorry to hear that! Do you consume CBD products? Sometimes they will leave trace amounts of THC in your system. Otherwise, speak with your MRO and have them dispute the results. This article will help: blog.drive4ats.com/failed-dot-drug-test-aftermath-sap-program
The length of the SAP program varies, and the waiting period before regaining your CDL license depends on regulatory requirements. After completing the SAP program, there's a mandatory waiting period, typically ranging from a few months to a year. Staying in contact with the licensing authorities will help you understand the specific timeline for your situation.
Can I work for ATS after completing the SAP RTD? I applied for a company to get my cdl through them. I went to the pre employment drug test and failed cause I still had a little CBD in my system. I then later applied to another company and passed the Clearinghouse and Company drug test. I drove for that company for a year and passed every drug test until my FM told me I about the violation while at the terminal.
I'm sorry to hear about your situation. Failing a DOT drug test can create challenges in finding employment as a driver. However, there is hope through the Substance Abuse Professional program. Completing the SAP program is often a good step in the process of regaining eligibility for driving positions. Many companies may consider applicants who have successfully completed the SAP program and have taken necessary steps to ensure their adherence to safety regulations. It's essential to be transparent about your experience and highlight the positive changes you've made. Best of luck in your search.
The Clearinghouse does not include pre-employment drug tests that are not required by the DOT. For example, if you failed a drug test for a job at a restaurant, that would not show on your Clearinghouse record.Pre-employment DOT drug tests are required when someone applies for a safety-sensitive position.
Good info, but the drug testing process is a joke. My company will let you know you're coming up for a random, then send you to a local lab that doesn't care if you sneak fake urine in.
