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I FAILED My Private Pilot Check Ride 

Captain Charlie Bravo
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Here’s the story of my failed private pilot check ride. In this video I will go over what you might expect on your own check ride, some of my takeaways, the reason for my disapproval, and what happens next. If you guys and gals like this video, please hit that like button, subscribe, and stay tuned for more of my aviation adventures soon to come!
-Captain Charlie Bravo

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@shyammohabir8283
@shyammohabir8283 3 года назад
This is one of the most valuable videos I have come across on RU-vid. Thanks for sharing your experience and perspective. It is indeed a "community service" for potential pilots! A setback is only one step away from success! Good Luck!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 3 года назад
Wow, thank you! That's quite the compliment! I'm glad you found it helpful!
@FlyingJournalism
@FlyingJournalism 3 года назад
Its wierd how some airlines care soo much about traffic tickets and checkride failures, where other ones dont
@jagfox2457
@jagfox2457 3 года назад
I am honestly so proud of the fact that you showed so much resilience to such a moment of adversity. I wish you the best of luck to you and your flying career, and I wish you the best of success in your future endeavors. As Shyam said, a setback is only one step away from success.
@charleswimberly5356
@charleswimberly5356 4 года назад
Your buddy on the couch knows how to deal with setbacks . Take a nap. All will be good.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Real talk...🐶 therapy
@blackrose1797
@blackrose1797 Год назад
This is literally the best piece of advice I’ve ever read.
@bocorby605
@bocorby605 4 года назад
It is so refreshing to see someone do such a service to the community by sharing a mistake they made in their quest for career success in aviation. As a former Captain (NWA/Delta), current corporate pilot and DPE, just let me say I would be proud to have you in my cockpit as a trusted crewmember. Do not fret the hiccup in your journey; as a former member of an airline hiring board, you are just the person I always looked for in the selection. Keep up the good work!!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Thank you so much for such a thoughtful and kind response. I appreciate your perspective and I’m glad the intention of sharing my experience was well received!
@randyporter3491
@randyporter3491 4 года назад
Bo Corby As a pilot for 30 years and one who did my private testing on steam gauges only, I had to comment on your post here. For you to take the time to post the detailed words of support and encouragement here, is not only impressive, but kind of you. With endless comments on here, yours will never be forgotten by this pilot. I am so glad I randomly wound up here, to see the impressive ownership of errors by this pilot, then have the honor of reading your supportive post. Yes, this was time well spent, so thank you both. Safe skies !
@SW737Flyer
@SW737Flyer 4 года назад
I was thinking exactly the same way as you Bo Cordy. I stumbled on this video by accident but I'm very glad I watched. It was very refreshing to see this young man put forth such a professional effort. As a former CFI/CFII/MEI corporate pilot and current commercial airline captain for a combined 30+ years, I don't believe I remember ever seeing this much knowledge and professionalism in someone with his level of experience. I would say to Captain Charlie Bravo, I believe your CFI may have let you down some in your training on this particular subject.
@johnrumpf8559
@johnrumpf8559 4 года назад
I failed my PPL written 3 times before passing on the 4th try. I’m now about to be a commercial pilot. Strong work on sharing this !
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Way to stick with it! It's not for the faint of heart. You have to tap into your passion and keep pushing through. Congrats on making it that far! Quite the accomplishment!
@zeppzeus
@zeppzeus 4 года назад
What’s going to be your first commercial airplane?
@CFITOMAHAWK
@CFITOMAHAWK 4 года назад
So it looks like you are not a natural pilot. Was that the DPE's or your fault??
@MikeM275
@MikeM275 4 года назад
You should never be allowed to fly if you failed 3 times! My God, you have a book with the answers in it! And no, you are not about to be a commercial pilot, you are probably about to take your commercial test...which you have a LOT more to do to actually be a commercial pilot. Which I hope you never become! My goodness....unbelievable...
@andyyiu3987
@andyyiu3987 4 года назад
@@MikeM275 Ah give him a break. Even if he failed his written a few times, doesn't mean he can't grow. I know plenty of people who were once pretty poor pilots during their training days who eventually became competent airline captains. Flying is an art, and it takes time to grow into it. Yeah, some people don't make the cut, but there are plenty who eventually do.
@tombissett1753
@tombissett1753 4 года назад
That seems extreme. I remember on my checkride (20 years ago), I somehow forgot my sectional and only noticed on climb-out. How the DPE didn't notice up to then, I don't know. I 'fessed right up and said "I may have blown this before we even got going. I don't have my sectional." I then radioed the tower for an immediate return to the airport. We get back on the ground, I'm beyond dejected, he walks in with me, I see my sectional sitting right there on the table. He says, "OK, let's go." Long story short, he passed me. In the end, he said he had the right to declare it a fail, but based on how I reacted to it, how I handled it, and how I resumed the flight without losing it, that was truly what being a PIC was about.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
What a great story! Put a smile on my face while reading it.
@JimWalsh-rl5dj
@JimWalsh-rl5dj 4 года назад
As an examiner for the British CAA, I can say you did everything correct and deserved a pass. I am still staggering about this video "programmed my GPS" what a dick
@tringalij
@tringalij 3 года назад
That was a cool DPE, my roommate busted his check ride because the sectional expired the previous day. Done.
@kimberlywentworth9160
@kimberlywentworth9160 2 года назад
Yes, that is a fair DPE. you did the correct thing. You did nothing unsafe and you went back to get your sectional.
@davidt8087
@davidt8087 Месяц назад
@@tringalijthat's so dumb especially since the sectionals and even terminal charts rarely change and if it does it won't be a change that's going to affect you the chances of some airport or airspace being affected right where you are is slim to none. The requirement for a new sectional and ESPECIALLY terminal charts is idiotic. Just release an update bulletin which says what part of the sectional is affected or which approach/arrival/departure/enrojte charts are affected. Guaranteee you each cycle maybe 1 thing at MOST changes, and for most pilots that one thing won't affect them.
@AlanCheak
@AlanCheak 3 года назад
Pick yourself up, dust yourself off and press on. As a retired F-14, airline captain of the 727, A-300, MD-11, and B-777 we’ve all had a stumble along way. Keep going.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 3 года назад
Damn...you've flown some sweet birds. Thanks for the encouragement!
@OhSoddit
@OhSoddit Год назад
Flying dog boxes after an F-14 must be a real letdown :(
@ZOANOM
@ZOANOM 4 года назад
The last thing I wanna hear is that nobody fails their checkride. I'll gladly fly with someone who failed and ultimately passed, because I think they have a deeper appreciation for the knowledge.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
ZOANOM I totally agree. I’m a better pilot because of it. Plus I feel proud of my accomplishments that much more.
@ZOANOM
@ZOANOM 4 года назад
@@CaptainCharlieBravo You should, it all adds to your personal confidence, which is critical. We never learn so much as when we fail, and we certainly learn when we teach, so you've gained from both directions by sharing it. Thanks for posting this.
@f14flyer11
@f14flyer11 4 года назад
If everything the lad says is so then it was not fairly assessed. It is one thing to fail for a bonehead mistake that makes you say to yourself boy I screwed that up but it is another to fail under such circumstance. There will be plenty other chances to fail in a legitimate fashion during a lifetime, but to carry something on your record is not acceptable. Although I will say most airplanes do use some degree of flap for a soft field takeoff. I think a more appropriate response by her would have been to let you do a short field landing to a full stop then left you do another soft field takeoff with some flaps. I know its a check ride but there is some leniancy given to the DPE in some circumstances. Thats all I have to say on the subject. Carry on.
@geneswood0729
@geneswood0729 4 года назад
definately
@bizzzzzzle
@bizzzzzzle 3 года назад
Would you say the same about driving a car?
@michaelzonis9953
@michaelzonis9953 4 года назад
Hey CB, sounds like you had a DPE that couldn't overlook a minor problem on a flight check that sounded like you had 99 % nailed. As an ATP commercial retired pilot I can say to you that you will ultimately accomplish your goal!! I failed my first instrument check ride do to a blotched go around but went on to fly for the next 40 years accumulating 30,000+ hrs. The fact that you were able to accept the DPE's recommendation says volumes about who you are. Hang in there, you have an exciting career ahead of you.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
I appreciate the support! You still flying now that you’re retired?
@michaelzonis9953
@michaelzonis9953 4 года назад
@@CaptainCharlieBravo Yes I am. I was flying corporate jets for a while but now I am involved with a flying club here in Northeast Florida. It's in the blood. ;-))
@rourkebuechel
@rourkebuechel 4 года назад
Gotta say man, I clicked this video assuming you made some dumb mistake. I stand corrected, your DPE definitely graded you unfairly. If it went as you say it did, your DPE is not looking at the evaluation correctly and you should never use her again. Your experience is not normal. Your maneuver was not unsafe and your decision making was sound. She essentially failed you on minor techniques. Don't take this one too hard. I'm a former military instructor/evaluator pilot (now just flying for fun on weekends) and this whole story just sounds outrageous.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Yeah. It had me spun up for a minute but it’s all good. I passed, I still love flying, and learned a thing or two about testing prep and performance.
@rv7pilot
@rv7pilot 4 года назад
I agree. My oral and check ride were nothing like that. It certainly was much much more than kick the tires and don't crash but wow. People who do not instruct or evaluate student pilots continually will not remember all the stuff we're required to learn during our PPL training. A good DPE will know this and will mostly make sure you're safe, know that the information exists, and you know where to get the information. Nobody has the entire FAR book memorized and anyone can fail anyone else on something minor like you were dinged on. You should have passed your check ride.
@rainerzufall689
@rainerzufall689 4 года назад
Yeah, that is simply unfair. Of course a student trusts his instructor. If the instructor confirmes they trained that way there is only one fair solution: Tell them you expect something different and let the student do that right now. It is not his fault. Maybe this can mean trouble for the instructor but why the student? How is that fair. I always trusted my instructors and I don't feel naive.
@chrisstr33tkng61
@chrisstr33tkng61 4 года назад
@Rourke Beuchel You are exactly right, she graded him unfairly especially by quizzing you extra hard like that. This experience you had with her was not normal at all. Do not fly with this particular check ride instructor again.
@Ry-dx5om
@Ry-dx5om 4 года назад
Your tempered response to this experience helps my faith in humanity, or at least towards fellow aviators. You were clearly well prepared, and it might suck to fail. But good response! I don't agree with your DPE, but technicalities have killed before. (This wouldn't likely have ever even lead to an incident). And great video! I wish everyone would post their fail videos, failure is a great instructor! (Expressly when it doesn't kill or maim you). People that are hot with words about this DPE, grow some emotional temper, like C'apin Charlie Bravo here.
@connorfinch8384
@connorfinch8384 2 года назад
I also busted my checkride on my first time around as well. The flight was going pretty good for the first 40minutes, but then we got to the steep turns. I was feeling pretty confident about steep turns because it was one of my favorite maneuver, but as I rolled into the turn i became anxious and continued even though I probably should’ve stopped. I rolled out of the steep turn and he looked at me and he said that sadly doesn’t meet ACS standards. I took a deep breath and he asked me if I wanted to continue my flight I looked at him and I said yes. I finish the rest of my check ride landed the plane and felt nothing but disappointment in myself. Later that week we went up again and I completed the steep turns with high confidence in myself. The moral of the story is never give up. If this is truly what you want to do for the rest your life or is something that you are extremely passionate about keep pushing yourself to the limits keep moving forward.
@hansjuergensen9232
@hansjuergensen9232 4 года назад
If what you said is true: Yes, I agree with examiner on one point. A soft field should be with some flap. You need to transfer the weight off the wheels and onto the wings as soon as possible. In Canada I would give you a “2” out of 4 on that. ( passed with a briefing) What you did was not unsafe. This examiner is way out of line. There are issues with her that could be an entirely different conversation. She is abusing her tittle. This is a private pilot ride, not a shuttle launch. The lesson learned here is that you got a bad examiner and that’s too bad. This unfortunately happens. I have done over 70 check flights in my career and I got one or two people who should not be in those positions. You sound like a very descent competent pilot. Put this behind you, keep going and do not fly this this examiner ever again, she is the problem, not you. Hans Juergensen
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
I appreciate the kind words! I also felt a solid debrief would have had the same impact on my actions going forward. Thanks for watching!
@warwickmcdowall6611
@warwickmcdowall6611 3 года назад
spoiler alert, I'm not a pilot but I would make sure I got this examiner again, she made sure you knew your stuff......
@Cotz95
@Cotz95 Год назад
I’m also training in a C150 and my CFI and I have discussed this very issue. If there’s a 50ft obstacle, no flaps. I agree total crap that you got busted for that. Apparently if you did your checkride in a cub you’d fail automatically because there are no flaps 🙄
@isaacpestpreacher5175
@isaacpestpreacher5175 2 месяца назад
Agree👍
@thecomedypilot5894
@thecomedypilot5894 6 дней назад
@@warwickmcdowall6611 No.
@tk5067
@tk5067 4 года назад
Like others have said, it's great to own the mistake, recover, and ace it next time. But, prior to flying with that examiner again, I would dive into the POH and the regs, and verify her basis for disapproving of a maneuver. Then discuss your findings. We have regs and POH for a reason, and an examiner has to follow both, just as they expect you to do. The fact that you successfully completed the maneuver in a safe manner tells me you were correct and within the limits of the aircraft. Her response was subjective, and incorrect.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
That’s precisely what my CFI and I did. We went back and forth for a few days but she stuck to her guns and maintained her disapproval. I went back a few weeks later, nailed the 4 maneuvers left to demonstrate, and got my ticket.
@archerpiperii2690
@archerpiperii2690 4 года назад
@@CaptainCharlieBravo Hey, that is great! Congratulations on getting your license!
@xrey83
@xrey83 5 месяцев назад
@@CaptainCharlieBravo Can you take legal action? I would never let a DPE cheat me out like that. I'm probably too argumentative.
@Lauritzenm
@Lauritzenm 3 года назад
Don't sweat it. I breezed thru my private pilot written with a 98 and aced my check out ride, BUT failed my first CDL drivers license test at the DMV!
@alleymuhammad6505
@alleymuhammad6505 2 года назад
😭😭
@alleymuhammad6505
@alleymuhammad6505 2 года назад
Funniest thing I have heard😂
@xanderw1460
@xanderw1460 Год назад
bROOOO The pre-trip inspection is brutal!!!
@MikesGarageReviews
@MikesGarageReviews 2 дня назад
What did you use to study?
@jashsdn
@jashsdn 4 года назад
I'm starting my pilot course next month. I've never seen someone so humble in a mistake - but I'm more thankful that you shared this with us. I hope you made it in the end and I wish you all the best in your aviation career!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
That’s awesome! It so fun and challenging. I’m glad you liked the video and I appreciate you following along! Thanks!
@14chaos2
@14chaos2 4 года назад
Like you, I had to find a DPE who could fit in my plane; I never could. My instructor actually called a FAA Director, and he conducted my check ride. Also, just like you, I flubbed my short field takeoff. He did not fail me over that. He did have my instructor go over it with me again. The oral part lasted about an hour, and the check ride was an hour as well. Congratulations on passing it later. After watching the video; I feel certain, you were better prepared than I was.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
I feel pretty good about how well I prepared. At least I’m taking something with me to my next ride!
@carlmarburger7513
@carlmarburger7513 26 дней назад
My checkride was with a DPE that was known to be tough, which made me nervous. I fly out of HWD so I feel your pain on the busy airspace. What made me think I had blown the checkride was that on two occasions the examiner took control and showed me ways to execute maneuvers that were different than how I had been taught. I thought he was showing me the correct way to do them. Back on the ground I was sure I had failed. I was already anticipating the humiliation of facing my CFI. I was seriously upset. Turns out I passed. The examiner thought I flew well and was showing me new things. I was not expecting that! It really spun my head up. My CFI thought that was pretty funny. I was so relieved!
@uncleroc
@uncleroc 2 года назад
I'm about to start my PPL training. This was a very upfront and honest video that will help me very much. Thanks for sharing!
@Brian-cj4bj
@Brian-cj4bj 4 года назад
Thank you for sharing, it says a lot about your character to own this situation. Kudos to you. Your information here is useful to me and I imagine many others. Thanks again!!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Brian Beckman I appreciate the kind words my man! Few things feel as good as hearing this kind of feedback. Thanks to you for watching!
@worldholdonpodcast
@worldholdonpodcast Год назад
Through your pain & disappointment you have helped others embarking at this stage. I'm currently at the mock check ride stage. This contact was helpful. Thanks for sharing.
@MusicGodsNFT
@MusicGodsNFT 3 года назад
Sometimes it is difficult to publicly own our mistakes but your doing so helps many other potential aviators so much. Thank you for taking one for the team and for sharing your experience. I hope your training has continued to progress towards your ultimate goals. See you in the pattern.
@robertmack8467
@robertmack8467 4 года назад
For some unknown reason, your video popped up on my screen this morning and I had to watch (Congratulations, btw, for passing your check-ride). My career is winding down (45 years in the profession with the last 24 as an expat contractor). With 12 type-ratings I never endured a 3 1/2 to 4 hour Oral and though each pre-flight was thorough they were not as intense as yours. Many of us admire your dedication, study, and preparation but each of us equally appreciate and admire your humility. As a former Gulfstream PPE (FAR 91), DCA (UAE), and Line Check Airman (KSA), it was an opportunity for a candidate to hopefully learn something but they would somehow elevate my perspective as well. My personal opinion but you obviously provided her with insight and knowledge she could use to enhance her career! At age 68 and having quadruple bypass surgery last August, I'm not sure if the FAA will approve a re-issue for my medical but, I have been approached to set-up and manage a new operation to consist of a VIP 787, three Gulfstreams, and three Sikorsky S76Ds - it may never come through but if it does, you would be welcome in our organization (select group of retired professionals from American, Pan Am, and VIP expat operators). Take care, all the best ....
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Thank you! Sorry to hear about your medical...that's rough after a life of flying. I'd love to hear more about your opportunity should it come to fruition. Send your contact info to captaincharliebravo@yahoo.com. I'd love to network once I'm qualified! Thanks for the kind words and taking the time to watch!
@titocantres3045
@titocantres3045 3 года назад
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. I passed on my first private checkride attempt. But it wasn't pretty. I had well over 160 hours by that date and it was my third flight school. Was at ATP (2nd school) and was completely demoralized after I had trouble with my landings and was basically told I was not going to make it there. I started four months later to a different school and after 7 mos (lots of bad weather) I finally passed my private. I'm still nervous about the rest of the checkrides coming, but all we can do is prepare!
@opticprism
@opticprism 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on your check ride experience. Not many people find the courage to share there failed experience and in doing so you have helped me to become even more prepared, thanks.
@andrewmgoss
@andrewmgoss 3 года назад
Just found this video and it’s excellent. Thank you for explaining exactly what happened and how you would approach it in retrospect. It’s really helpful. I have a lot of respect for you as a person and pilot for how you handled this situation.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 3 года назад
Glad it was helpful! I appreciate your support and you taking the time to watch!
@Cliff7135
@Cliff7135 4 года назад
That's great of you to share your experience, I am a pilot, but feel you did a great thing by sharing your story. I'm confident that you will have your license very soon, and this will all be a fantastic memory. Good luck, stay safe, and happy flying!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Thanks for the kind words! Those are hard to find on RU-vid comment sections these days. If you check the more recent uploads, you’ll be happy to see I passed my retest and am loving every minute of it!
@Cliff7135
@Cliff7135 4 года назад
That’s awesome! Enjoy the wonderful joys of being PIC, keep learning, stay safe, God bless!
@brianberezowski5352
@brianberezowski5352 4 года назад
AWESOME video, thank you for sharing your experience. This was EXTREMELY HELPFUL. I'm 58 yrs young and have 38 hours in my log book. Recently soloed. I'm a long way way from doing my check ride. Your video is very inspirational and educational on many levels. An experienced Private pilot once told me "learning to fly is a journey, not a destination". You'll do FINE on the last few maneuvers on your next check ride. 👍👍 Again, THANK YOU for sharing. Definitely subscribing, looking forward to following your "journey".
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Brian Berezowski that’s so awesome, Brian! I’m glad to help! Congrats on the solo! Best feeling ever, right?! I’m super stoked you’re here and look forward to making some more videos . If there is something you want a video for, put your suggestions in the comments. Let me know when you get that ticket!
@christopherromero6310
@christopherromero6310 3 года назад
WOW...THANKS FOR SHARING THIS !! I'm probably a month or so out before taking my check ride so I am trying to wrap my head around it all sooner then later. Also so awesome to read through the comments posted here. It for sure goes to say anything worth having in life is worth the hard work / fighting for. I have to agree with so many others here...yes very humbling...but I would no doubt feel much safer flying with a person like yourself than someone who just might feel a bit more full of themselves. Its obvious you are a articulate, smart, determined individual and I believe there is no doubt you will persevere and go on to continue and accomplish your goals to become a great aviator ! Best of luck !!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 3 года назад
I appreciate the support! I wish you the best on your ride! let me know when you pass!
@r.c.reasor4807
@r.c.reasor4807 2 года назад
Excellent video! You did a service to others by making this video. What amazes me is how some people gave this a thumbs down. What could they possibly have to complain about this video? Thank you again for making this!
@airlinepilotguy
@airlinepilotguy 4 года назад
I can't tell you how impressed I am with you... your modesty regarding your checkride experience, and your maturity to learn from it. I would fly with you as my fellow crewmember anytime. Bravo. I have no doubt at all that you will be a very successful professional aviator.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
I really appreciate your support! Thanks for taking the time to watch!
@RedDawnAviation
@RedDawnAviation 4 года назад
Turned out my DPE had worked with my dad 20 years prior (USAF C141) We didn’t know who each other was until a week later. Took my check at 42 hours. He asked me to give him our position (1995 no gps at the time). So I called approach and ask for a speed and location check, which I received. The dpe laighed, “good one” he said then ask he to do it the “hard way” using map and gbr. Regardless of outcome each flight is a learning experience. Good way to handle it.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
That’s awesome! Nothing wrong with using your resources.
@shademe
@shademe 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing your experience for us to learn from. Being so humble after such an event is a great quality. I would be proud to fly with you!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Absolutely! All in the name of learning! Thanks for your support and taking the time to watch.
@Cunningstunts23
@Cunningstunts23 4 года назад
Captain CB, I really liked the video and the tips you suggested-particularly when you mentioned bringing up question to the DPE before the checkride! As a CFI, trust me we get the same heart-sinking feeling when one of our students unfortunately has a disapproval on a checkride. I failed my Instrument flying portion, and now am starting a job at a regional airline in the US. Hang in there, and work to ace the rest of your rides, keep in mind you’re starting toward your flying career goal at a great time. Best of luck to you
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Thanks so much! I can’t wait to make it there myself!
@aramelmi1020
@aramelmi1020 4 года назад
I’m getting ready for my private pilot check ride. Thank you for sharing this experience. It was not something easy to put out there but you had the self confidence to do it hoping that you may help someone else.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
If we all were in the habit of sharing our failures some of us might be able to avoid them for ourselves. That’s the same reason I watch NTSB investigations all the time. Good luck on your ride! Let me know when you pass!
@bertengineer
@bertengineer Год назад
Great attitude. This will not hamper your ability to get hired at an airline. I'm a FedEx pilot and with over 7600 HRS I'm still always learning. Good luck with the rest of your training and checkrides
@designsbyphilip510
@designsbyphilip510 2 года назад
Thanks for posting this. It is great to see the bad with the good. And there is not enough of the bad people are willing to share. Goodluck with your flying career!
@evetro76
@evetro76 4 года назад
You have demonstrated one of the most important skills in being a good pilot. Owning your mistakes, learning from them, and sharing with others so that they don't make the same ones. So many are scared to admit their failures (and we all have them). This is a skill I've seen mamy experienced pilots fail at time and time again!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Its tough to do but my life and others lives depend on me performing at my best. I like the challenge and look forward to the new ones that lie ahead!
@adambrackston3471
@adambrackston3471 4 года назад
That’s pretty crazy. Especially since you explained the aerodynamics and everything. It’s not like you just didn’t know what to do. I have seen people pass who didn’t even know what a forward slip was or how to do one which is crazy
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
I’ve heard of worse stories than mine with a passing grade. The numbers say we are safer pilots as the years progress so maybe it’s a good thing not everyone is passing. I’m trying to take what I can and learn from it.
@Victordamus98
@Victordamus98 4 года назад
Congratulations bro. I am currently doing my flight training and there's much to learn. Keep trucking.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
That’s an understatement! The learning never stops!
@TheGoomba102IsOnYouTube
@TheGoomba102IsOnYouTube 3 года назад
Awesome video, thanks for being able to share your experience. Just took my checkride a few weeks ago. Oddly enough I was most nervous about the oral portion, but I absolutely passed that part with no problem whatsoever, but on my first landing I overshot my touchdown point and failed my soft/ short field landings. It caught me by surprise for sure because its something ive done a million times over and over again with no issue whatsoever. So now I have to go back next week and do the rest of the flight. It was extremely discouraging for sure, I had all the confidence in the world I would pass, and yet I think now im more nervous now than I was the first time, but on the flip side It gave me a new found respect for GA pilots that I just can’t explain
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 3 года назад
Absolutely my pleasure! It’s funny how on the spot we all feel when we’ve been literally cramming aviation into every crevice of our brains for months. Even though my oral was super long I actually really enjoyed that part. Sorry to hear about the busted ride...especially for the same thing I missed on! Do yourself a favor and take your CFI with you into the shortest (safest) field nearby your training airport and practice there. It really helps with the power management aspects which is really what nailing those are all about. I did that before my second test and was super confident going back in. You got this! Let me know when you pass!
@LakshmikanthKishorRabi
@LakshmikanthKishorRabi 4 года назад
Very insightful.. I failed my short-field landing on a wet runway and had to go-around twice on my forward-slip to landing, during my checkride. I am glad that you continue to remain positive, and took the time to walk us through the events. Congrats on nailing your manoeuvres during your re-test and getting your private! Keep up the good work!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Thanks so much! I appreciate your support .
@marklepusic7519
@marklepusic7519 2 года назад
Wow. This was not my experience at all. It’s been like 15 years, but you seem way more prepared than I remember being. I can’t imagine passing the checkride with the four hour ground portion and the way you’ve described your DPE.
@SURF4LIFE84
@SURF4LIFE84 4 года назад
Thank you dude! Heads up, cheers from Portugal !
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
🇵🇹 🌎 🇺🇸 !!! Cheers!
@user-qy5em2mp2y
@user-qy5em2mp2y Год назад
It's been already 2 years, this video really makes me feel alive. Thanks for your advice!
@davidsmith5775
@davidsmith5775 2 года назад
Superb! The civil aviation community are endlessly-inspiring professional achievers - I enjoyed it for about 7 years before I decided to step away, concluding at the the time I couldn't devote the hours necessary to advance to and maintain competency for IFR. Loved every second of the journey and am convinced you'll be onboard soon if not already long ago. Quite frankly, you've accomplished more than many in life, so be proud!
@kronos350
@kronos350 4 года назад
As the old adagio says: making a mistake is human, persevering is evil. Thanks for your video it was very inspirational. Cheers from Italy
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
I’m glad you enjoyed it all the way in Italy! 🇮🇹 🌎 🇺🇸
@silverfoxidm
@silverfoxidm 3 года назад
Why is perseverance evil when all else fails perseverance prevails?
@kronos350
@kronos350 3 года назад
@@silverfoxidm because it does
@7th_CAV_Trooper
@7th_CAV_Trooper 3 года назад
I was ready to throw up by the time my check ride was complete. Maybe one of the most stressful events of my life. Was sure I failed, but I didn't. Your story was really interesting. Your attention to detail is great and you seem to know your stuff. This video was posted 9 months ago. I hope you've had success by the time I'm viewing this. Cheers! [edit: I also think the examiner was wrong for failing you]
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 3 года назад
Yeah...pretty nerve wracking to have someone you don't know scrutinizing every move you make. I made it through and have since gotten my tailwheel endorsement and currently am working on my instrument. Thanks for watching!
@LawnBunny777
@LawnBunny777 11 месяцев назад
@@CaptainCharlieBravo She sounds like a hard-core beeyotch. Glad you are doing well!!!
@manuelsandez6443
@manuelsandez6443 4 года назад
Greetings from Mexico City, Thank you for sharing your story. God bless you and hope you pass your checkride.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
manuel sandez greetings! I’m happy your share. Check out the update video, I passed! Have a great day!
@aurputhamani4894
@aurputhamani4894 2 года назад
Thank you thank you very much for posting this.. even at this time of unpleasant outcome .It is really helpful,I wish and I am sure you will be a great pilot in the near future...
@essel23fly
@essel23fly 3 года назад
Yep the part about “are you sure”... Don’t ever go against the FAA even if you can explain it. I’ve seen cases of Aviators trying to hold on to their pride knowing they’re right but it never goes well.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 3 года назад
Absolute power corrupts absolutely I guess.
@georgia_dawgs_2746
@georgia_dawgs_2746 4 года назад
Wow. This is making me extremely nervous for my checkride...
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
You know, I was nervous until the actual day of the ride. The one thing I felt a little weak in was VOR tracking so the flight I took the day before was focused on that particular task. Is there anything in particular you’re nervous about? Steep turns? Power on/off stalls? Emergency decent? Let me know and I might have some tips that will help you nail it. When’s you’re check ride?
@georgia_dawgs_2746
@georgia_dawgs_2746 4 года назад
I actually don’t have a specific date for the check ride quite yet. The only requirement I have left is my long solo cross country. I’m not as concerned for the oral portion of the test but I’m mainly worried I’ll blow it on a steep turn or something. Thanks for the help.
@johnelliott4521
@johnelliott4521 4 года назад
Willing to bet failing a private pilot check ride, especially for something like this is not a black mark. Hang in there.
@calebniederhofer6529
@calebniederhofer6529 4 года назад
@@johnelliott4521 Not at all regardless of people telling you otherwise. What matters is 135 , 121 checkride's.
@hotshotjcb3798
@hotshotjcb3798 4 года назад
Thank you for sharing and taking us on your journey to ATP certification. Hope you continue posting ...Best of luck in your future check rides..
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Thank you! Will do! I love sharing my experiences. It is a good way to document them for myself and hopefully it entertains a few along the way!
@dyske-
@dyske- 4 месяца назад
Thanks for making this video. You are a bigger man than I or probably most people out there. Glad to see you are doing well!
@bobspencildrawings6928
@bobspencildrawings6928 4 года назад
You explaining yourself experience shows you’re an intelligent individual, so I don’t fought you’ll ACE every check ride you do from here on out. I have to be honest, I was a bit distracted watching this video because you have one of the cutest dogs, lol👍
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
That’s my boy! He’s always trying to photo 💣!
@kennyr5906
@kennyr5906 4 года назад
I failed my instrument due to an improper hold, made me understand the concepts weren't clear to me and I should've spoken up when I didn't fully understand something. Very humbling experience indeed. Funny, I ask my instructor for a hold or two every time we get a chance now. And no training flights until May due to the virus, I better figure something out quick.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Bummer...good idea to keep current on the weak points. I practice each maneuver every time I fly now.
@chinadude07
@chinadude07 4 года назад
I appreciate your perspective and attitude. It is a ton to remember!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
It sure is! Thanks a lot! 😎
@labrock20
@labrock20 4 года назад
Am about to take my checkride for my Cherokee 235, am on hold for the corona virus. Using the delay for extra study . Thanks for the video. It was at once helpful and anxiety producing. God Bless and happy flying !
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Ahh man! This virus is messing EVERYTHING up! I’m glad GA hasn’t been shut down. Good luck on your ride! Let me know when you pass! Shoot me a photo at captaincharliebravo@yahoo.com of you passing and I’ll share it on the channel. I’d like to start celebrating my subscriber successes!
@jonahsohmer9747
@jonahsohmer9747 4 года назад
I passed my RPP check ride, but barely. During taxi, I forgot to check that my compass was free and floating, and that my heading indicator was tracking. It’s the small things like that that can almost fail you! Good luck!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Jonah Sohmer to be honest, I take pride in the fact that not everyone has what it takes to be a pilot. Being this hard makes it all worth it in the end. If it was too easy, I wouldn’t love it as much!
@LicenseToTill
@LicenseToTill 4 года назад
'It is better to make a mistake that makes you humble than achievements that make you arrogant'. I made a mistake on my first solo out of the circuit pattern (to the practice area). I flew Terminal altitude within the control zone (airspace matters). In Canada they can issue a cador but they didnt.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
So true! Arrogance has no place in aviation.
@JavaSQL
@JavaSQL 4 года назад
Hi Charlie. I felt your heartbreak man. I had a similar experience where I made an error in the traffic pattern and failed my first Private checkride too. Learn from it and more importantly, grow from it. Be a better pilot bcos of your errors. A good pilot is always learning, remember that.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
True story. Months have passed now and so has the disappointment. Just a speed bump.
@kendemers8821
@kendemers8821 4 года назад
Thanks for your candid review and lessons learned about your check ride experience. I'm sure you learned a lot from this event and I truly believe you'll be a better and safer pilot because of it. I hope to someday be sitting in the back of an airliner you are PIC of.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
I learned a lot from the experience. Make sure to thank your captain and you might just recognize him! :)
@NitroRoo
@NitroRoo 4 года назад
I'm still fairly early on in my training (just soloed!) and I've noticed the same lack of clarity for takeoff with flaps in the POH for the 172. Surprised that caused you to fail the entire checkride - but I'll definitely be brushing up on ALL of my knowledge as much as possible before I reach that point. It sounds like you had done the same, and from the comments it sounds like you may have had a VERY thorough DPE.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Congratulations on your solo! That’s the best feeling in the world. There’s general characteristics of aerodynamics that standardize configurations in almost all airplanes. It’s important to fully understand all of the variables you’re dealing with in each individual situation to ensure you mitigate as much risk as possible. When in doubt, ask. I wish you good luck and safe flying through your training!
@donjames5049
@donjames5049 4 года назад
You're going to make a fine Pilot. Very impressive knowledge for the actual hours flown. Good Luck. I watched this because I expected you have made a major mistake. Great advice. Tough inspector.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Thanks Don! I appreciate the kind words. I look forward to my continued training and growth.
@kevinpointer1187
@kevinpointer1187 2 года назад
Spot on Sir ,say know more
@jonroise2487
@jonroise2487 4 года назад
Great video dude. I did all my training years ago. Passed my written, and never took the check ride. I’m planing to finish up and get my ticket soon. So this was a so Erik g reminder to sharpen up on all the stuff I learned way back when... time to study up again.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Thanks! Sounds like it shouldn’t take you long to get back in the swing of things. Let me know when you pass!
@todayslanding2961
@todayslanding2961 4 года назад
I like your video, very insightful, thank you for posting it so honestly. Your CFI bears part of the responsibility, and the reaction of the DPE seems unfair but what do I know? I am happy to hear you passed the checkride. You'll make a great pilot. Thank you!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
I'm glad you liked it! Mistakes often make the best teachers for others. I appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts!
@AeroworksProductions
@AeroworksProductions 4 года назад
Congrats on passing. Was your instructor a young guy? Surprised he didn’t know the flap settings on a 150. pretty much standard practice to get an airplane as light as possible when taking off or landing on a soft surface (for any model). I commend you for sharing your experience. Check rides are something most every pilot remembers, good or bad. Good luck on you pilot career path.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
My instructor was a 35 year pilot with 20,000+ hours. We read the POH, asked around and spoke to many other professional resources and there were a lot of mixed opinions on this. We collectively came to the conclusion it was discretionary and not mandatory, DPE didn't agree. Either way, it was corrected for, demonstrated, and deemed satisfactory on the second run. Thanks for taking the time to watch and share your thoughts!
@GNashOldJazzDrummer
@GNashOldJazzDrummer 4 года назад
I flew c150’s year's ago. I still have two owners manuals. 1968 and a 1977 BOTH say no flaps. 1968 ”wing flaps UP”, 1977 ”Wing flaps ZERO”. For a maximum performance take off. There is no misinterpretation to it. Normal take off is also flaps zero. I believe you got scammed. Looking at the manual again now there isn't an instance where flaps on takeoff is required.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
G Nash Sometimes I guess we all draw the short straw...but at least I didn’t let it stop me! Do your manuals say no flaps for soft field and short field takeoffs?
@GNashOldJazzDrummer
@GNashOldJazzDrummer 4 года назад
The manuals call both ”maximum performance takeoffs”. There is that paragraph that y'all pondered over that said you could use 10% but you loose climb ability. You could get off the ground a few feet sooner to hit the trees.
@creeperkiller47
@creeperkiller47 4 года назад
Flying a C172M and it states flaps up for maximum performance as well. It doesn't outline soft field, but after discussing it with others it is designed to have 10 deg flaps for soft field. The concept is that it will keep weight off the wheels as reviewed in the video. Ideally, soft fields should be long enough that the reduced climb performance makes no difference; a maximum performance shouldn't have to be combined with a soft field.
@robertgordon5279
@robertgordon5279 4 года назад
I can't speak about the check rides these days because mine was in 1967. But from what I have read there are those CFI's and DPE's out there that want to show how great their skills are, and build hours at any cost. It is a disservice, to say the least, to all the study and training it takes. I was very fortunate to have one CFII for all my 40 hrs of training. He soloed me in 6 hrs ( I thought he was overly optimistic LOL) in a C-150. We did all the dual cross country training and my solo cross countries in an older Hershey bar Pa-28-140. My DPE lived in Dalhart Tx. I just barely had the 40 hrs when John sent me to Cecil Ingram for my check ride in the 140. The oral was, he said " plan a trip from Dalhart to Santa Fe NM in the PA-28140. It was summer. This was back when they had actual F.A.A. weather guys you could talk to next door to the FBO. Cecil looked over my flight plan and just said "I just wanted to see if you would have tried to fly over the mountains". We did all the required maneuvers, hood work etc, and the only thing I screwed up was a power off, 50 degree 180 . I stalled a Cherokee, such as a stall was in one. He just said, right before the stall warning lights and buzzers went off "your stalling it". I recovered from the stall, made a decent landing and as we were walking into the FBO, and he said "I hope you fly a little better from now on, you just have a license to learn."
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
No better feeling than earning that license to learn! Thanks for sharing your story!
@anandsubramanian7427
@anandsubramanian7427 2 года назад
Very helpful. Thank you sir. Great Attitude in owning it up and being positive. This would take you places. Good luck!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 2 года назад
I’m glad it helped! You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!
@maxbray9124
@maxbray9124 4 года назад
She must have thought she was giving a checkride for an astronaut
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Yes!!!😂😂😂
@EJWash57
@EJWash57 4 года назад
@Arthur Wow! If you're ever going for a job as a pilot, make sure you tell them that in your interview.
@kylekingsberry5680
@kylekingsberry5680 4 года назад
@Arthur Woah ok no
@paulw176
@paulw176 4 года назад
AN interesting comment...I was a Naval Aviator and I found most females in aviation, in a position of authority...trended towards being real jerks. Noteworthy imo since females in the training pipeline tended to be treated more gently than their male counterparts. This was early 80's when women in Naval aviation were a new 'thing.' Just my experience -
@LandStalkerNigel
@LandStalkerNigel 4 года назад
I would have figured that if the student explains the why and especially if their instructor taught them that way, and is capable of doing the correct way in one more demonstration, just pass him/her. I get soft field landings are important to understand but if all it takes is to tell him to input the notch of flaps and do it correctly once, don't allow hours of effort to just go down the drain. That's a huge waste of time, effort and money. Especially if the student was doing perfectly fine before then
@MsDenver2
@MsDenver2 3 года назад
Wow that seems incredibly hard , you must have been exhausted after the ground check, not sure what they do in uk but I feel for you , I used to be a tram driver and the check drive was really hard for them but your check seems very hard , I wish you best when you re-do it , let us know how you get on
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 3 года назад
It was tough for sure but that's why I love it. I went on to pass a few weeks later.
@DaleScrivenDotCom
@DaleScrivenDotCom Год назад
Thanks for being vulnerable and sharing your experiences.
@jack4burns
@jack4burns 4 года назад
Thanks ! You put together good information to know. Much appreciated!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
You're welcome! I'm glad you found it useful!
@pauljohnson9260
@pauljohnson9260 4 года назад
Good talk. I remember doing the faa check ride. I honestly at the end had absolutely know idea if I passed in fact I thought it may be a fail. The lady chatted to me down a corridor about the effects of stress on people just general chit chat and then said oh by the way you did pass. Took me half hour to sink in.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Thanks! That must be why they say fly it all the way to the car. Test isn't over until they say so!
@pauljohnson9260
@pauljohnson9260 4 года назад
Captain Charlie Bravo ha ha true
@johnmcguire66
@johnmcguire66 3 года назад
I'm prepping for my commercial checkride now and even having done a private and instrument ride already, these are the kinds of issues I'm always kind of worried about. I'm pretty confident in my overall piloting ability. It's the idea that some technical issue will come up like this and I'll get failed on it even though I know it was a pilot discretion call. Vast majority of DPEs I know are very kind, fair minded individuals, but this happens sometimes. It's frustrating because there isn't much you can do when it does.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 3 года назад
Except appeal with the FSDO...but who wants to bark up that tree!? Good luck on your ride! Let me know how it goes!
@natebAFC
@natebAFC Год назад
I failed on my first attempt at my PPL as well due to rushing through a VOR procedure. I was pretty disappointed with myself but I picked myself up, learned, passed, and now I’m in instrument training and doing well as I make my way to an ATP rating. We only fail if we quit, just gotta keep going! Great video
@TonyPotatoes1530
@TonyPotatoes1530 4 года назад
Bro you seem Uber prepared! This sounds like a super hard check ride! Your ability to recall the flight like you did is that of an experienced aviator. Don’t know why she crushed you. Keep your head up and keep trucking! I think you’ll make a really good pilot. Also, love the humility! I’m a military aviator training to be a Navy Jet Pilot and having this ability to do what you’ve done in this video is what we look for bro! Hooyahhh!!!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Thanks for your confidence! This is not the type of skill that has any room for cockiness! Take me for a ride when you get there! I kind of regret not getting into this sooner and going the air force route.
@TonyPotatoes1530
@TonyPotatoes1530 4 года назад
Captain Charlie Bravo I don’t know how old you are but the US Navy accepts applicants up to 32!
@cobykempton4934
@cobykempton4934 4 года назад
You had a tough DPE. Don't let it discourage you.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
For sure. I took it on the chin and passed 3 weeks later. Been flying all over for months.
@bryansimmons4550
@bryansimmons4550 4 года назад
I wonder what this particular DPE's fail rate is. Maybe the FAA needs to give HER a check ride.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Man...if only that data was public...
@bryansimmons4550
@bryansimmons4550 4 года назад
@@CaptainCharlieBravo The DPE I had for my private checkride was actually quite helpful. Most of them WANT to pass you. She was looking to see that I was safe and competent, NOT perfect. As has been said many times, the private pilot certificate is your license to LEARN.
@jazzdad24
@jazzdad24 4 года назад
@@bryansimmons4550 , correct thats what my instructor told me, now that you have your ticket; now go learn to fly!😉👍
@stevenhuckaby2902
@stevenhuckaby2902 4 года назад
In the early 1980' when i was on training, i had a HER cfi , didnt take me long to see her agenda, dumped HER and aquired a male instructor, things quickly improved,
@pinkdoughnut869
@pinkdoughnut869 4 года назад
She kinda said. Use flaps. He’s sounds like a great pilot just had a bad day. We all have that.
@fredread9216
@fredread9216 Год назад
Wow, sounds like a tough one. Much more detail than when I did it back in the early eighties. Good luck on your endeavors. I know that the airlines really need pilots. They are even helping with training. Hope you can get involved in that if needed. Sounds like you are doing well. It took me 56 hrs to get my license.
@miked7137
@miked7137 4 года назад
I recently just got my Commercial MEL in February, prior to my disapproval I only had a single engine ILS left on my initial checkride and unfortunately botched it. DPE told me that all we had to do was just the single engine ILS retest and that was it. Afterward it did kick me and left me with a lesson to learn from. My private ride was about the same other than I botched a power off stall. Your DPE sounded almost like you were given a commercial checkride, oral of 3-4 hrs sounded pretty brutal, some stuff we do have to know but it's really a starting point. Keep up the work and never give up! Safe flying
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
For sure. It’s not the end of the world and I’ve learned such an amazing amount of information and technique in the last year it’s unbelievable. It’s crazy to think that it’s just the starting point but then again, that’s why I love it so much. Thanks for watching!
@Ces999919822
@Ces999919822 4 года назад
I’m a 75/76 captain, been flying for over 25 years now, and I’m sure I’d fail a private check ride if I took it today. Only difference is I’d give her a good piece of my mind afterwards.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
My older pilot buddies have all said the same. I guess things have tightened up over the years in the name of safety statistics.
@f14flyer11
@f14flyer11 4 года назад
I am an ex military and civilian instructor pilot and airline pilot. Have done a million check rides, have given the same. That was BS pure and simple. There is something else going on there with that DPE. After you pass, I would write the FAA and the instructor should do the same.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Seems like a lot of people on here agree! 🧐
@cinemaunitestheworld
@cinemaunitestheworld Год назад
Thank you for this video. It took a lot of courage to post it! I'm in the home stretch of my private journey!
@thomasm1022
@thomasm1022 2 года назад
This is one of the most informative videos on this topic. Thanks for the information and honesty. It will help many others. You KNOW this stuff. It will be a temporary setback for you.
@victoryismine2926
@victoryismine2926 4 года назад
I just love that you own it. I'm studying for my checkride and close to 80 hours... Took 50 hours just to figure out my landings... I'm not happy with that but I got my landings down now..at least I'm not nervous about them anymore. Knowledge I got but memory is not my strong suit. My brain is fried now so I'm watching videos. Your oral sound horrid. Can't imagine flying after all that!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 3 года назад
It turned out to be a good test of my nerves. I took on a heavy work load and kept my composure. Good to know for developing improved task management.
@rickrandall3250
@rickrandall3250 4 года назад
When I took my check ride my CFI held me back until I had at least 60 hours as the local DPE was notorious for finding and accentuating flaws leading to the disapproval of candidates short of that experience level. Just sayin'. Appreciate the candor and detailed analysis.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Rick Randall yeah...I imagine some may be turned off by the thought of a 40 hour pilot. 🤔
@cptsky47
@cptsky47 4 года назад
That DPE is a money grubber. I had some DPE's that did the same thing, and they didn't work for me for very long.
@CFITOMAHAWK
@CFITOMAHAWK 4 года назад
Rick R That is BS. He is making you spend over 2 thousands dollars more even if you are good now at say 42 hours.
@CocoDave37
@CocoDave37 4 года назад
Wow! After listening to your video you are definitely capable and will be a great pilot. Can't wait to see your followup video and how you passed. Subscribed!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Thanks so much! Thanks for your vote of confidence! Glad to have you along for the journey!
@coldisle
@coldisle 2 года назад
I have a feeling that you are becoming an excellent pilot. Anyone who is this honest and introspective about a setback like this is destined to be better for it. This was very articulate and incredibly helpful to those of us at the very beginning of this journey. Thanks very much.
@Mimsk
@Mimsk 3 года назад
You handled the aircraft safely and knowledgeable. You explained WHY you did what you did, its not like a C150 needs over 2000' lol. She could've corrected your logic and sent you on your way IMO. Your Private is a ticket to continue to learn. Good luck next time!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 3 года назад
Thanks for your support!
@dudeinalaska
@dudeinalaska 4 года назад
Dude, that DPE did you dirty. However, that experience will be great on your road to professional certs.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Couldn’t buy that kind of life lesson!
@TubeAngst
@TubeAngst 4 года назад
Dude, you are my new hero. People who tell the truth and are honest with their self and others and don't deflect or try to blame others, to me are stellar. You'll be fine and you know that. It's obvious to me. It's obvious to others. Thanks for sharing. I'd love to pet that doggo of yours.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Thanks man! I’m just trying to keep it real. Failing sucks. Helping others makes me feel good. And the pooch...he happens to be a big fan of “the pets”. 😎🐶
@brucemckelvy9920
@brucemckelvy9920 3 года назад
I took my check ride back in 1972 and my flight over to the examiner was my 40th hour. When I got there and he saw my log book he questioned me why I was there with only the bare minimum number of hours for the exam. I told him that my CFI said I was ready and go ahead and schedule it, so I did. He picked up the phone and called her. Now she was probably the most experienced CFI on the whole east coast if not the country at the time. She had over 25,000 hours as a CFI all in Cessna 150's and 172's. I could. hear her on the phone as she had a loud voice from the many hours in C-150's before the days of Bose and Dave Clark headsets. :-). She told him that I had scored a perfect 100% on my written exam and that she had instructed many thousands of pilots in her day and that I was the most natural pilot she had ever taught and that I was ready. My actual flight test was only about 20 minutes long. He passed me and sent me on my way. I think I did half the maneuvers I was prepared to be examined on. He laughed when we were done and apologized for doubting if I was ready and said Marge was right. I give all the credit to her though, as she was an amazing CFI and used to compete regularly in the PowderPuff event every year. I am 71 now and am sure she has passed away but R.I.P. Marge, clear skies and following winds.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 3 года назад
That's awesome! My instructor was also very confident in my ability having sent me into the lions den with only 44. I felt ready, performed well, and showed up with my A game. Unfortunately the DPE didn't like the rules I was playing by. Lesson learned!
@jjsifo1
@jjsifo1 4 года назад
Never give up! a "mistake" is a learning experience.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
It was an experience to remember!
@markg7963
@markg7963 4 года назад
Interesting story. Sorry you failed, but you owned the results and I have infinite respect for you. Personally think that the examiner was pretty short about the event. It clearly wasn’t dangerous because she let you accomplish the maneuver without intervention. She could have discussed the matter with you on the spot and have you reaccomplish the takeoff. Then had a chat post flight to make sure you understood her concerns. I say all this because of your professional demeanor and attitude is that you are obviously all about learning and understanding. I’m sure all this is behind you now and thanks again for the video.... best luck!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
Thanks for your support! Yeah...I felt the same way. Apparently these DPE’s have had to be real tight because of how many students our pilot factories are putting through the system. I’ve even heard of some having their DPE being examined as well during their check ride so it could have been worse! 😬
@markg7963
@markg7963 4 года назад
Captain Charlie Bravo Giving a check ride is a hard thing to do, it requires you to extend quite a bit of judgement into a situation. My main focus is on attitude and demeanor, because that is the actual driver for current and future learning, as well as to the level of care and caution that one possesses in the air. Coupled with the fact the young pilot has been signed off and observed in a training environment by normally several other instructors, the default result should lean towards passing. Unfortunately, not all see it the way I do, and will down a pilot for one mistake. There is ALWAYS more to the story, on both sides. So take everything with a grain of salt. But watching your demeanor I would happily sit beside you on a four day trip and we could talk flying till we bleed. I wish this virus fiasco wasn’t screwing up our livelihood like it is, so time will tell on that. Have faith and hang in there. It’s an amazing profession, just weird as all getup.
@mattnel3
@mattnel3 4 года назад
First of all, I commend you for making a video of this nature, i don’t believe I’ve seen a video like this where someone is mature enough to turn a checkride bust into an educational and informative video for thousands of aspiring aviators. When you get to the airlines they love asking questions about prior failures and they want to hear how you learned from them and moved forward. What happened is unfortunate, and I feel today more than ever DPEs are cracking down on Private Pilot checkrides, the ACS is the ACS and im aware standards need to be held, and this is a big foundation moving forward in your aviation career...after listening to you speak its apparent that you worked extremely hard, you are very passionate and have a great understanding of the materials you were required to know. I feel like I wasn’t nearly as prepared as you when I took my private ride back in 2004...but the DPE looked at me as he gave me my temporary cert. and he said “This is your license to learn now” and was he ever right. You will continue to learn, re-learn and fine tune your skills and flying for the rest of your career. We all make mistakes and have uncertainties at every possible level of flying, but we learn and grow and move onto the next. You may also want to consider a new DPE next ride, my CFI initial wasnt even a 4 hour oral! A little excessive in my opinion. I also find DPEs with a high pass rate get the FAA a little suspicious, so perhaps she was being extremely picky and found just enough to get you, and even out her P/F rate. Also keep in mind it is your right to discontinue a checkride and any point you deem necessary! Just for future reference. Thats just my 2 cents. Congratulations on passing your ride! Congratulations on continuing to pursue your passion, dont let anything stop you! This is an incredible industry, despite the things happening today, it will bounce back stronger than ever! The old saying is true, do what you love and you’ll never work a day in your life! Hope to see you in the terminals soon. Best of luck to you!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
I really appreciate your thoughtful feedback! I’ll be choosing a new CFI and DPE for my advanced ratings. One would hate to think someone would fail just for the sake of a P/F statistic but I can’t say it hadn’t crossed my mind. I’ve never found something I’m so passionate about and you’re absolutely right. I don’t plan on working another day in my life once I become a professional pilot. I’ll continue to remain humble, learn as much as I can from every flight and experience, and work towards being a valuable addition to the world of professional aviators. Thanks again for watching!
@caseyhutson5392
@caseyhutson5392 3 года назад
My POH says the same thing “no flaps for short field takeoff with obstacle”. My checkride is tomorrow so I will definitely be clarifying that with my DPE. Thank you for this video!
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 3 года назад
What happened? Did you pass? What did the examiner say?
@sammytheface7828
@sammytheface7828 3 года назад
.I should have failed my check ride, but he passed me?.....When I called a tower airport to radio our position...I said I was "5 miles north of field"....my Flight Examiner chuckled...Clicked the mike, and said...."sorry we are 5 miles SOUTH of the field".....that's a 10 mile mistake!..i thought i failed right there. Also before the flight he asked me what was the hardest for me to do flying a plane..."a xwind landing" I answered.......on our last landing, he deliberately chose a x-wind runway.....during my flare....he screamed at me....."KEEP THAT WING DOWN!!! KEEP YOUR DAMN F***ING WING DOWN!!!!!!" nearly at the top of his lungs..........as we rolled out he said......."THERE, you can do a x-wind landing...." I taxied back...silence, no one said a thing...i shut the plane down. felt like an eternity.....(I knew I failed).........then he says......"I like your style......you pass"
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 3 года назад
Nothing like a little stress to hammer the point in! Love it.
@billharmon2051
@billharmon2051 4 года назад
Sorry Charlie, I just read my 1975 and 1969 C150 manuals and the language was pretty clear to me in both. they stated: "Therefore the use of 10 degree flap is reserved for minimum ground runs or for take-off from soft or rough fields with no obstacles." What did your manual say for the 1975 Mike model?
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
It says, “IF 10° flaps are used on soft or rough fields with obstacles ahead (as in the ACS 50’ obstacle reference for short field operations), it is preferable to leave them extended rather than retract them in the climb to the obstacle.” It was the “IF” that got me in trouble.
@iangammon151
@iangammon151 4 года назад
Captain Charlie Bravo I have to agree with Bill, reading it it says flaps should be reserved for soft and rough feilds, but short field it is not suggested. As for the failed chdckride on resume, you have the right thinking. And you will do better next time.
@houstonfirefox
@houstonfirefox 4 года назад
And to me it stands to reason that with more lift, you get the load off those wheels post-haste and right-away-like. Without POH guidance this would be a judgement call but if I'm about to bounce over furrows or gopher holes then logic tells me to get the weight off those wheels right away, accelerate in ground effect and zoom away (barring an obstacle in which case the whole takeoff decision is in question). The main gear keeps your a*s off the ground and the nose gear is nothing more than something to keep the prop from hitting the ground (as an old, but wise old-geezer instructor once told me). Great video and New Sub here!
@michaelfarrow4648
@michaelfarrow4648 4 года назад
Here is the pertinent excerpt from an online C-150M manual: "FLAP SETTINGS Normal and short field takeoffs are performed with flaps up. The use of 10° flaps will shorten the ground run approximately 10%, but this advantage is lost in the climb to a 50-foot obstacle. Therefore, the use of 10° flaps is reserved for minimum ground runs or for takeoff from soft or rough fields.If 10° of flaps are used on soft or rough fields with obstacles ahead,it is preferable to leave them extended rather than retract them in the climb to the obstacle. The exception to this rule would be in a high altitude takeoff in hot weather where climb would be marginal with flaps 10°. Flap deflections greater than 10° are not approved for takeoff" If there is no disqualifying element, e.g. high density altitude, then 10 degrees should be used. This is what your instructor should have told you and what you should have told the DPE. I always enjoyed soft field T.O. In real life, if there is tall grass or snow on the runway, it's quite possible the plane will never accelerate to rotation speed unless the nose wheel is out of the obstruction. BTW, on my way to ATP I failed my instrument ride...and I deserved to fail. Live and Learn - you seem to have done this. Good for you!
@alexandermyrthue1987
@alexandermyrthue1987 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing your story and giving us an advice it applies to all school related stuff😊😊
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
@abarif1
@abarif1 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing your experience, as i am in the stage to go for check ride. As i already have more than 80 hours in my log book. I hope i to do well, and best of luck to you as well.
@CaptainCharlieBravo
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 года назад
I'm glad to! That's exciting! Good luck. Let me know when you pass!
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