Sad but stupid. Who tries walk 10 hours over mountains. You would wait for the bus. Or get a lift and give the fellas petrol money back at your hotel. Or get a taxi ffs
He certainly has. He’s not even actively on this case. He needs to stop spinning all these theories and his own thoughts. Maybe the family could sue him. I sure hope so. It’s ridiculous. He needs to go back to actually sorting crime not giving his two cents worth.
Well when u hear he’s gone if with someone who spent 9 yrs in prison & allowed him to walk home ,if they were that concerened they would have dragged him back till morning, I hope they get to the bottom of this , for jays family alone , just hope they didn’t drug him up snd he collapsed
So How Did They Miss Him if His Body was Right next to Where his Phone Last Pinged????? I'll Continue to Say this .....Those 2 guys had Absolutely No Business taking that Kid there. None. They driving. He was staying 10 mins away. They could easily have dropped him off where he was staying if they was so concerned. They caused this! And where's this "Stolen Watch"?????? Was it found with his Body?
I wondered if after Jay had stolen the watch & the fight erupted outside, if the guys got him in the car to get him away from the club quickly. I've also been wondering about the watch. Was it with the body or not? Because if it wasn't there, maybe the owner did catch up with him?
Very true, no means of getting water you can’t last more than two days without water maybe even less in the heat there was only going to be one conclusion sadly
jimmy savile. i agree with most of your comment bar the last bit "no one deserves to die tragically and in agony"... wrong. my condolences to Jays family and friends.
"no matter his past" the usual insensitive virtue signalling from someone that was not a victim of this thug and reprobate. get a heart and start feeling for the victims, not the thugs.
@@missliverpoolcatladyI'm wondering what age you're? Of course it's him..ALL INDICATIONS IT'S HIS REMAINS due to the clothes he was wearing and belongings he was found with.. It's just something that has to be done officially to 100 per cent I.D someone with Dna or more than likely in this instance Dental records.. I'm only being truthful that after being missing nearly a month in tenerife heat in summer it is not a body that is recovered. It is remains of a body. Unless he has broken bones indicating a fall there will be no way to determine cause of death if there is no bodily tissue left.. Not to mention wildlife etc.. I would be very surprised after nearly a month if the entire remains are there intact still.. Alot of young people on his pages that won't know how all that goes. R.I.P Jay but should be a reminder that 19yr old party goers that are swinging from the jaw are not invincible. If he'd have went back into where he spent the morning and waited 2hr on bus or lift back with the guy he'd still be here but when that guy went out to move his car he said Jay was already outside.. He left in a hurry and couldn't go back cos he took something.. Already bragging about a 12k rolex he stole... Learn a lesson from young reckless behaviour. ❤😊Karma is real
Why would the media bring up his past during a missing persons appeal ? So that the court of public opinion can judge if he’s worthy of looking for or not ?
This guy is absolutely no different to the so called armchair detectives, he's equally as responsible for spreading conspiracy and he's equally as unqualified...why does he keep getting a platform and why is his ego so big?
but come on. conspiracy? look at the evidence. my man left a club with strangers, then go mountaineering the next day? he most likely was coerced or forced into sending that text. probably was killed or thrown down that cliff
@@lizb4156 so you think someone of a sound mind A. left with strangers after a night out B. Went walking in the mountains all by himself, in a foreign country, the next day C. Only when he's at 1% he decided to text a friend, and only one friend. If you know law, you'll know what circumstantial evidence is. We only have some facts right now. Facts are his body was found (assuming it's his body) + A, B, C I mentioned above. circumstantial evidence suggest this was foul play. Who and why is another story.
0:59 The snap chat doesn't show Jay's face. The robe could not have been given by the men to Jay as bedding as it was the the same coverlet for the beds in the rooms of the boys in Los Christianos as evidenced by earlier photos so how did it get into the mountains. On other sites, there are suggestions he was missing earlier and Lucy took the phone up with the villa men and placed the phone in that location. There were suggestions the floor of the villa opened to a cellar area. It was the mother who suggested he was taken and held hostage not armchair sleuths. Others said his body would be placed there during the final. The dad is seen dancing in a rave two days earlier on a video. The mother and father dont search or look like their son is missing. The mother gets her nails done rather than search and is seen dancing on day 9. Tom Hilton is seen dancing in a rave on another video. The mother's half sister set up a GFM page for her missing daughter called Josephine who wasn't actually missing. So two GFM pages for that family. This is a copy cat of Michael Mosely almost to the letter about missing buses and going up mountains the wrong be way etc' so we are led to believe he is dead. In Tenerife they say they have found remains of a body but remains of someone having been in that location. Other sites say Jay is alive in a flat in Mallorca under a different identity. I dont care what the detectives say but it smells like horse manure to me. Fake actors. Like Nicola Bulley.
The TV show was rigged. Not that I know much else about him l, but I suspect he may be "dumbing down" for the internet. He strikes me as a no nonsense kind of bloke, who as been asked to flower it up to be consumer friendly. As I said, I've not looked in to it (although probably should), it's just a thought.
He might of been trying to get away from them and panicked The two men then probably went after him followed jay slipped and fell Clothes I would probably been what he was wearing at the time
Not a chance on the earth he slipped and fell, the terrain isn’t even that bad there, you had to be blind to died in the terrain out there, someone definitely know something more!!!
This poor lad. My heart goes out to him and his grieving family and friends. They've been through made worse by all this awful speculation. I pray his mum and dad and family, receive the love and support they deserve 🙏
whilst we acknowledge he was 19 years of age and his death is a tragedy, maybe a good thing is perhaps familiarise yourself with him his family his associates and the people involved in this case
@Robert-vw3od I'm very familiar, thank you, however I'm not a snob who believes that I'm better than others. The family may be a bit rough around the edges, but that doesn't mean Jay deserved to die alone on that mountain.
No he's been taken to that spot, and the rest is history. Coincidentally his mate Brad specifically said I could hear him slip on the gravel (alibi) and they laughed about it. Don't make sense.. Who in the right mind would continue down a mountain after nearly slipping🤔The police are going to say he slipped to protect the tourist industry and their reputation. Look at the Unscrupulous people that reside on that island, Gangsters Drug dealers etc. We are being gas lighted.
that area has been searched over 50 times and with drones and dogs he wasn't there then suddenly he is. I looks like he has been dumped or something has ben because all they have are his clothes on some remains. what does that mean? it doesn't make sense. Another young man has gone missing today, he didn't get on his flight last night. There is a lot of people going missing in the Canary Islands and mainland Spain especially Tenerife. It looks as if someone is putting profits over the safety of British people
This is So so sad - but fishy How have Spanish police found the body of Jay Slater today after they stopped the search over a week ago? This area was searched thoroughly by people, dogs, drones etc. How did police find him if not looking anymore? Why on earth would 2 older men take a 19 yr old all that way? Whos watch was stolen? Jay wanted to take a 10 he trek to get scran? A night/morning flying his face off and he wants food? No chance It would be easy for there to be foul play if he was hit over the head and left there so it looked as though it was a tragic accident Also, I've read that Ayub or associates own the air b&b and the woman who said she saw Jay didn't offer a lift? Was he put there recently? Bs he stole a watch then straight after had 'an accidental death' Why 30k target for GFM? Sky news say the body was found with his possessions and clothes. Were the clothes on him? The wording was strange. Was his phone found? Such a strange case. I'm so glad he's been found and that he is able to be laid to rest ✝️ but definitely more to this than an accident
1st: Police is POLICÍA NACIONAL and don´t taken part in this case 2nd: Who is carrying out the investigation, is GUARDIA CIVIL 3rd: Officially Guardia Civil called off the search after two weeks. 4th: In complete discretion... a High Mountain Group brought from the Peninsula continued the search WITHOUT INTERFERENCE from anyone (Press, volunteers, family etc.) in the deepest and most vertical ravines... Jay has been taken out from the ravine by helicopter... Everything is very very sad...An unfortunate accident
He was down a ravine. Have you not noticed how the terrain is it's not like finding someone in a park in a city. It's up in the mountains, cliffs steep falls revines
Te invito a venir a Masca, no hace falta que camines, sólo que bajes por su tortuosa carretera y entiendas que no es llano, es un desnivel de paredes verticales y a pocos metros de distancia. Puedes estar a 4 metros de distancia del lugar de la llamada, pero hacía abajo, en un desfiladero de 4 metros de profundidad ¿No entendéis que es un barranco?
@NancyBearsX It's not his friend's fault he went off with 2 supposedly strangers. He was old enough to make that choice himself. It's reported that he was found where his phone showed his last location. How come he wasn't found there before now?
They may have found human remains but that doesn't make all the holes and inconsistencies in this whole story just go away.. why was he even out there?? There's absolutely no reason if there is nothing more to it for him to be out there to begin with.... why was he even in masca?? Imagine being out with your mates clubbing in a different country and and on the last day you decide your going to leave your friends, the place the party is and the place your belongings and the place your staying is? To drive 1 hour away with two grown men for a few hours becore deciding to wander of into terrain where full search crews can't even get to in a month... it just doesn't make any sense and just because a body has been found doesn't change that
He stole a watch they took his life waited for it to cool down and dumped the body that was being hidden on a boat off shore!... lucy and brad both know but been threatened. RIP Jay
So, did the Dutch rescue team announced at the weekend find him with their cadaver dogs or what? I find it odd that he was found in the very area that has been scoured by Spanish police rescue squad, volunteers, etc., for four weeks and yet he's only discovered today, exactly a month after vanishing.
Have you ever been to Tenerife !!!!! it is volcanic rock and shrubs hard to see anything and he was found down a steep gully that would be hard to see into if you just walked past, the only ones that are sure footed on that kind of terrain are the goats that live there, I wish people would think before they write such twodel, it is not England, and our police can't even find a body missing for sometime, searching for bodies is not easy in any part of the world..Please think of Jay's family at this time, you have to have been in their position to understand what they have been going through, unfortunately I have and it took 23 years for parts of my son's body to be found and for us to know what happened to him, like Jay he made a wrong decision, he went climbing a mountain on his own not telling anyone where he was climbing and we were told the same thing as Jay, he must have had an accident or fell all that was found of my son was a pair of climbing boots with a foot in one and it was the DNA given by his brother that identified him , the rest of him is still buried in snow and ice on the mountain, so please remember that behind all these news headlines is a human being.
It was not the Dutch team that found him, they’d not started. Itv was the Spanish police. They were motivated to have another look because they wanted avoid being discredited.
@@peterbothwell9005 Thanks, Peter. I'd read at the w/e the Dutch team were heading to Mosca, so thought perhaps the dogs had picked up the scent, given that it was widely reported that the Guardia had called off their own search weeks before, and Jay's dad was calling for volunteers to help.
@@coffee6783 The G.C didnt stop searching. They called off the mass search, sending teams back to the mainland but the ones stationed there keeped the search up.
Sorry this young man died regardless of who he was. But questions should be asked. Why would a 19 year old get in a car with 2 men twice his age to travel to the north of the island? Why didn't he stay with his friends? Why didn't his friends ask him why he was going such a long distance with 2 strangers with a criminal past? What's the story about a rolex watch? Why did this young guy tell his friend Lucy he had lost his bag and as a result he was very afraid? What was in the bag? Why were his clothes near the body? Are those the clothes he was wearing? Or clothes he brought to change into during his holiday? If so...what was he doing with his travelling bag going up north? I'm sorry, I'm not armchair detective, but any ordinary person would ask the same questions. Condolences to his family. A real tragedy.
Fella is an absolute imbecile for having a go at people for speculating and trying to make sense of this tragic case. And who in their right mind wants details on what you had for dinner last night? RIP Jay
Who cares about his past it was a 19 year old lad who has lost his life he is a son brother grandson nephew somebody's family show some bloody respect no one should die
Yes, Jay's actions and poor decisions may have brought about his own demise, but everyone in law enforcement agrees that it's strange for a 20-year-old to be spending time with 40-year-old drug dealers he barely knows unless there's something else going on. And there's still no explanation as to why he would be in such a hurry to leave the Airbnb and intentionally go in the opposite direction and choose dirt paths over staying on the road where someone could see him. I don't think he wanted to be seen and I think he was in a hurry to leave. So let's be honest here, because it's more than just a kid who got drunk out of his mind in Tenerife and got lost on a walk. Yes, he may have fallen, but what choices did he make in the Airbnb that caused him to be in that situation in the first place??
Couldnt have said it better. Nor the sheer panic immediately in his friends when for all they knew (unless they are aware he went with dealers) he hitched a lift back.
Makes you wonder how he survived the car journey ? as I'm quite sure they'd all had something to keep them going for the night . I'm not so old that I remember doing the same as Jay and staying up all night partying but the golden rule was you never leave your mates and I mean NEVER . They have a lot to answer to and I'm so very sorry for everyone involved and may God bless him .
Agreed. They failed him massively letting him go off on his own. They also had a couple of times that morning to get him and left it to police instead and now he’s dead 😢
If animals haven't moved his remains about , it's very common if experiencing hypothermia to remove all your clothing in the final stages . As despite being very cold your mind and body tricks you into feeling very hot.
What’s odd about it? Get a grip you people, honestly. His body would have been severely decomposed, and probably picked apart by animals, and it would be far more odd if his clothes weren’t found nearby.
The whole thing stinks, but apparently he isn't/wasn't a very nice character. This Lucy probably knows far more than she let's on. Funny, she apparently hasn't been seen on any of the appeals though...
“Mr criminality” is also currently and has been begging for “donations” to find some called Kevin Parle and he’s been looking for him for 5 years now and he’s having a pop at other peoples cases 😂
@@thechunkyone7118 do as I say not as I do…every single case he’s mouthing off about , anyone else “mouths off” there trolls/nasty people He needs get back under his stone
But you previously said it should have began as a criminal investigation rather than a missing person and to be fair things were uncovered to suggest this and with his Mum worried and vocalising early on that he could have been taken, no wonder people are speculating, it is in the public interest, this is such a sad outcome for everyone concerned, but this ex police guy here has just changed his narrative, he was just speculating like everyone else before.. Sleep peacefully Jay, I so hope he didn't suffer...😢
I dont get how they found this body near where his last phone signal was reported. Makes you wonder if the body was retrospectively dumped ... looking forward to post mortem results.
If he left the house in a friendly manner, surely he could’ve got some water and maybe borrowed a charger or a phone to call his friends before he left.
Take the whole 'accident' narrative with a dose of salt. The whole surroundings of his disappearance, being driven to the back end of nowhere, company he kept, his dubious past and his apparent 11 hour work all makes the accepted narrative coming from officialdom very questionable.
Totally. I don't think this was a case of him just getting lost. I think he was running from someone. Why else would you stray off a perfectly good road?
Apparently he stole a Rolex from some Eastern European guy and was trying to sell it. He was with the two other guys trying to sell it, however the two others were told by the Rolex owner that if they wanted to keep their teeth and toes - they should bring him Jay. When Jay got to the Airbnb, he must’ve overheard the guy calling the Rolex owner. Jay left the Airbnb and didn’t want to risk waiting for a bus. But it’s all speculation.
@@dieu5041if he stole that watch then left the air bnb at 7.30 pinged lucy at 8.05 where was he trying to sell the watch that early in a matter of half hour.? No one around he missed the bus he wouldn't even of been able to ask 1 person to bye it in the middle of no where. And if he was scared and he went down into the terrain and his body is meant to have been found im sure as hell he would still have the watch with his body coz there wouldn't of been any one down there to sell it to either.
@@nicky-sr7uf he went to the Airbnb expecting to sell the watch with the ayub guy, but instead ayub must’ve called the Rolex owner, Jay overheard and got spooked so he left the Airbnb. He most likely didn’t want to risk waiting for the bus or walking on the main road in case he’d get spotted by the Rolex owner. Tenerife is extremely corrupt and is crawling with gangsters, even the police are paid off. Everyone around Jay was probably threatened to give up him or suffer the consequences, which is why everyone seems to be acting weird. They knew Jay messed with the wrong people.
@@dieu5041 by everything that's going on and the police it must be so corrupt and it seems that Tenerife is run by gangsters and Mafia and no 1 else. Sad if it is Jay but I still find it hard to believe until he is actually identified anyway. There's people saying R.I.P and that's giving more people false information isn't it.
Bleksley is such media attention grabber. He's been slagging off people online yet all he's done is get his mug in front of the cameras every time there's something about this story. He's not even tied to the case
He's a hypocrite. Giving off about armchair detectives and RU-vid channels making money off the back of this guy. But yet he's doing exactly the same. In fact he's doing worse coz his face and voice has been on far more on the media since the case broke than anyone else's has. He's been milking it from day one and still is
So Blexsley is now having a go at the arm chair detectives , despite not that long ago saying they may be something in their theories, and adding his own in the mix , what a hypocrite, he can’t even get jays name correct, why keep giving him a platform condolences to the family and friends
Nope. Don’t buy it. They already searched that area. There were no vultures circling the carcass. No dogs picked up on the scent. The area was inaccessible.
There’s a reason why Jay decided to walk and not get some form of transport, and it’s probably the same reason he didn’t go back to the air bnb. He was being set up for the watch he just stole.
Yes, the mystery isn't over. Misadventure might have caused his death but something caused him to believe he wasn't safe at the Airbnb, even if it was just drug-induced paranoia.
@@ellaeadig263 There you go, popping drugs for three days solid, lack of water and sleep.. The stuff he was buying could also have been a mix of anything. Just because he was ambient and somewhat verbal doesn't mean he was well..
@@emmsue1053there were taps in the air b and b he left in a hurry as he was seen walking fast. He got out of there when the convicted drug dealer had to move his car. He then went off the road. He said to Lucy I can’t go back there ,I can’t go back there. Even his mum said he’s just got in with the …. And just let him go. Poor Jay just a young lad caught up with wrong uns
I would like to know what was on the cctv footage given to the police a few days ago from an old ladies cctv of the night/morning Jay went back to the abb. she lives in the area ,it was watched and described as distressing
Did he fall ? Or was he pushed ? Or was he knocked over by a car ? Why didn't he wait for bus ? Why didn't he charge his phone ? Why didn't he wait for the lift back that was allegedly offered ? Where was that women driving too , up hill. ?Why was he walking quickly up hill ? Too many questions ❓❓❓
Why keep wheeling Peter Bleksley on to talk about this case. From the beginning everyone was in the dark as to what had happened. All Mr. Bleksley has ever been able to do is repeat what has already been reported in the news and say it's all mysterious. It's less mysterious now that the remains have been found but until the forensic work has been completed, there's nothing more to say.
I am glad they found him. However, Spanish police are extremely professional and they researched that same area weeks ago with drones and dogs, an area they know well, and nothing... but he is found now! That is weird... I think he was fleeing the Airbnb. Why? How log has he been un the ravine? 4 weeks? 4 days?
I don't particularly want to fuel any more fires. If he's shown to have fallen, fair enough. But they can't have a go at people making best guesses, based on the info, as to what may have happened. Undercurrent of substance trading, people with criminal pasts, a young lad that goes off from his friends into the mountains, apparently gets scared and wanders off, friends that happen to confirm 2 main aspects (he'd left the b and b and his feet sounded like they were slipping) and he disappears. Then he's not found in the most likely place but then is a month later and apparently not that far away from Masca. Almost everybody looking at that situation has suspected foul play. I'd be interested to know the location of the nearest road or path to where they found him.
What a an awful mouthed Ex Police officer, bet he was nightmare to work with…it’s a free country and yes there was a lot of horrible comments but people are FREE to speak their mind JUST LIKE YOU DO …give it a rest because you will never stop social media, how ever much you constantly protest
Downtherapids on RU-vid hiked that route and couldn't humanly access where the phone last pinged. It was thrown in. He probably died from what happened on the beach and everything after that was just a plot to cover his death to make it look like an accident.
his phone pinged last not far from a revine which takes you down to the sea, You can see the sea from the top of the revine. I have always said he went that way to get back to his friends as he didnt want to wait 2 hours for the first bus. If he fell done the revine even a short way there are fisures and shelves and broken land he could have fallen into it without anyone seeing him. I expect suddenly they found his small bag and phone then sadly his remains. the doctor they found a few weeks ago people walked past his body everyday for a week before anyone noticed him. no mystery. I am so so glad they have hopefully found him, so all the awful comments can stop and his poor family be allowed to grieve for their loving son. BLESS YOU JAY REST IN PEACE YOUNG MAN. x
I can think of no reasons why he would leave his mates and travel 40 minutes north with 2 men in their 40's, no way to charge his phone, get back to his friends and just wander around. Sounds really dodgy
I do not believe this for a moment very weird, why would he go off all on his own in a country he didn't know ,and apparently fell, another British abroad apparently falling over some rock . I'm telling you this smells very fishy...??
Let’s now focus on other missing people who have been starved of any attention. This dude was on a drug fuelled weekend and died. Happens all the time unfortunately
Sadly if this is theyoung man he made the same mistake as Dr Michael Moseley not finding out about the terrain and going prepared. The same happens over here when people decide to go walking up placed such as Snowden in there shorts, tee-shirt and sandals they don't understand that the weather can change in minutes, the clouds come down low it gets cold and visibility poor, they keep walking get lost or fall over the edge. People need to be careful check things out with the local information or people and go prepared. When you are in a hot country you need to make sure you have plenty of water and don't go wandering in places that are difficult to traverse or unfamiliar.
and why would he go with these two much older men who he probably knew they had form I can't believe he didn't know the one was potted for 9 years for drug offences. I still say more to it. Waste of a life but we makes our choices and pays our money!
Err... Today is the 15th and he was reported missing on the 17th... so it's not s month today. Only saying that if this expert dude being interviewed is getting something like this wrong, what else is he getting wrong. On a personal note, I find it very coincidental that the moment the expert search teams arrived, the Spanish teams finally found him. Just because he's been found now in that location, doesn't mean he's been there all along does it.
This latest news was a total suprise to me. When he wasn't found in a couple of weeks i doubted he even went to the Airbnb. Looking at that terrain it's slightly easier to see why he wasn't found but the case is still very odd. Why would he take that mountain route instead of sticking to the road or waiting for the bus.
