Update: Twitch got banned for scripting, and Lulu got banned for getting boosted by a scripter. It's ironic that he's the scripter yet it's me that never misses 🔥
Love that you dragged him into a vc to call him out and all he does is call you the r-word and leave lmao. It's super obvious and he tries SO hard to deny it.
Oh he spent the next 20 minutes saying he "gaps me on 2 servers" and calling me bad at the game. He refuses to address the fact that he lost to me while smurfing as a "Challenger" in Gold AND CHEATING
In this case I agree. Easier to see with Rammus. Specifically with Rammus' ults if you notice, his pathing not only has inhuman reaction time but it also takes the path of shortest distance like every time within that split second. That and it's never a panic movement, it's always clean.
yeah, like and its amazing how i0ki sees the dodge, but I have to go back and slo mo play the rammus ult dodges. if i0ki didn't mention it, I wouldn't have noticed.
@@moonbyeol9130 Kinda. The main thing is no one is perfect and everyone panick moves or at least doesn't perfectly b-line for the optimal spot to dodge every time. If you've programmed in your life, it's pretty easy to see as well. Especially when they are constantly one step dodging. Yea, sure. Clearly I'm playing against a faker smurf. Though even he doesn't dodge that well all the time.
as a low elo player for a LONG time (im talking 500+ levels on main) i honestly even struggle picking out smurfs cause i auto assume its just me being a bad player, so ive literally never thought that ive went up against a scripter
I used to play DOTA2 and started playing league, if i do well people say I'm smurfing. Meanwhile my team is flaming me for not playing league properly. 😂😭 I'm new
My favorite "i0ki vs scripter" saga was when I made a video spectating the highest ranked Challenger Senna player, and concluded that yes he was actually scripting as Senna. Then the scripter changed his name to "Master i0ki" (a previous smurf name of mine), impersonated me in a few games and then got banned LOL
I0ki thanks for the shout out on this guy. You need to bust more of these clowns. You don’t need Vanguard when we have you detecting this. If only we had your eagle eyes in every game happening on every server in league, this game would finally be redeemed.
@StuermischeTage I main sup too but the timing is way too perfect for each q, like a few I'd be like oh no issues there but it's nearly every q hit when lulu is in perfect range
These cheaters are fragile and insecure. The all chat blaming his team is not about winning but making himself feel better when he's losing badly while cheating.
10:50 so, it's the same problem that we're having in chess rn... people setting engines to play at X strength, or "humanazing" their moves sometimes to throw off auto detection. I swear, with the amount of effort you need to put into finetuning scripts, one might honestly spend less time actually becoming good at the game lol
Yeah! For him to react within the same frame of a video is just unscienfistic. The frames per sec are choosen, such that humans don't notice the differences between them and recognize them as a fluent motion. 😅 In Olympia runs everything below 0.08 sec reaction speed is a false start.
People always think that scripters would perfectly dodge every skillshot but if u have at least half a braincell left u would never let this run at 100% efficiency. Humanizing and switching it on and off constantly makes it really hard to detect. In this particular case the twitch made it obvious when he dodged the center of rammus ult perfectly with micromovements several times, there is no way a human player could do that consistently.
I'm low ELO and can still see how obvious the scripts are. No one has that bad of macro and trade/CS/back timing/etc while being able to mind read EVERY single CC. Legit players who dodge CC actually try to bait it out or move unpredictably, scripters just happen to path slightly away from it as if they were naturally just wanting to go in that direction by chance. No legit player gets that lucky after about 50 CC abilities are thrown at them throughout a match. Statistically, even Faker will get hit by some of those, especially when it is cast from out of vision or flashed on him.
About the silly vanguard comments: Riot made it clear that Vanguard would not identify ALL the scripts all time. Why? Cause cheat systems get updated to keep working, although they get more pricey. Is not IMPOSSIBLE to get thourgh an anti-cheat. The thing is that, we as a community, we have to report if we see them, so Riot can detect it, and Vanguard will be updated too to detect it, so the scripters are gonna have to update the cheat system, and charge more to the people who wants it. Thats about it. Its a tug of war between game creators and cheaters that will never end. (Just like they can't end piracy, no matter what they do)
As someone who've never even thought of scripting I just LOVE it that you punish scriptors because after all this game is meant to be for fun. However quite often it's the oposite thanks to such low class individuals. I've met some scriptors but I usually realise it too late. I'm a Zyra main and it's not hard to solo carry with this champ, but all of a sudden some games you can't land a skill shot at all vs some players and your adc starts flaming the hell out of you... The life of a support player, ha?!.. I'm so happy you take care of such individuals! Great video!
My friends never believe me when I say someone is scripting either but then they soon realise they are once they look closer at their movement. Its always easier to tell when you're the one being dodge cause you know how people normally dodge/react to your skills so when someone just happens to dodge pixel perfect every time its just feels wrong. once or twice you could call bad luck but every time on the same ability is crazy. This twtich is actually amongst the more obvious scripters. Most people just assume they've never played with a scripter, when riot proved that was wrong when they released the 1 in 4 games stat, and it really did feel like 1 in 4 at times. I've personally only come across 1 or 2 sus players since vangaurd but you've got to realise no anit-cheat is 100% effective all the time.
I am amazed at how polite i0ki was about confronting this loser on call! He called you names and you still were respectful as if you were having an educational moment. The moment I was suspicious of anything at all is @ 6:56. I would've had the same reaction "That missed?"
@@axirz1666 At least Ioki got there with hours upon hours of hard work and dedication instead of with a credit card and a cheat engine. I'd rather get beaten by a better player than by a executable file.
I main Zyra and this guy was definitely scripting. I've seen some of these morons actually dodging into other damage where the script detects the shortest path out but they are like stepping into the range of 3 other people visible in a bank, rather than trying to kite back to safety. Or you set up in one of those long added bushes at the far end, sweep, and as soon as you click your E, before the animation is visible outside the bush, they are dodging. Pretty easy to tell when you watch it back in 1 frame at a time video.
great video and this is why Ioki is my favorite league of legends player/ content creator. i watched something for entertainment purpose and go a educational video on scripting and how to really spot it at. Thanks for this and i enjoyed it and great win.
When people try to dodge an ability they click like 10 times per second but Twich every single time when he dodged Zyra's e was moving in a perfect line. Yea nice scripts
yea 100% scripting ,the both of them i wish you had showed us the nami as well ,what she done under that tower and got back out with full health ,ioki if u could have done that move same as that nami i would kiss your feet ,theres no way you can react to a flash ,E zira alt from the bush and see it no way :) cheers ioki ,i thought vanguard caught all this cheating ?
Thanks for going the extra mile to review his other games and reporting this guy! As a low elo player, there's no way I would know this guy's scripting. It's incredibly unfair and glad he got banned - rightly so!
Agree. Once he said it and did the flash R test, I could see it, too. But before that I don't even think the Rammus dodges would have been enough for me to notice, even though retrospectively, they seem pretty obvious now.
Okay but why is ioki playing in gold? Are all his videos him smurfing? It fucking sucks being a genuine silver/gold player and running into smurfs constantly
Nooooo way kaisa said 'why are you fighting i had to thin the wave'. The wave was already pushing towards enemy, she just wanted to greed the cannon instead of helping support. Ima be real, i play a lot of singed. My mechanics in general, meh but i can be pretty good at dodging if it's not the 10th game im playing. Macro, probably my best trait. That being said, that Twitch was 100% scripting, Rammus R confirmed it for me.
So, most players have a juke pattern. I mainly play hook/engage supports in Plat and even in that elo, you can typically see how they tend to dodge. Really good players (for me that's Dia+) dodge by small movements and more importnatly - they change the pattern, making hooks hard to land. They can dodge up twice in a row, then dodge down. The guy in this video did not have ANY strategy lol. Clearly a script. I have been outplayed by enough players to know what it looks like, and this ain't it.
Never doubted you about the scripting. But as to ELO HELL. I will be the first to admit, that I am not a great player, but I just found out that the Loss Prevention has an LP cap because I have had so many leavers that the game will tell me the loss was prevented and say "+ LP", but I still will get demoted. Not saying some of it isn't copium. Just saying if I found the cap for LP loss prevention, it certainly wasn't because I am a shit player.
This guy obviously scripting when you play back. And yeah I think low skill players just assume better player/smurf. We see you and Zwag dodging stuff but don't have the ability to see the difference in a match.
The better example of his script is the movement in the 14:10 gank. There is too much wiggling, most people just aim to avoid 1 thing, not multiple. Unless he's the next faker, which I doubt, it's pretty weird to try and avoid zyra skills when there's an adc killing machine called rammus chasing you.
I caught a scripter once when I was playing Morgana. I was suspicious for the majority of the game because she dodged every Q, but near the end of the game when I was in a bush they had no vision in and I saw the Scripting Diana walking towards me, I Q'd and she immediately dodged. BUT, the real kicker that confirmed it to me was I also W'd and the Dianas movement immediately walked up out of the soil before running at me rather than just rushing straight at me. I ended up highlighting it because it was so wild how obvious it was.
I appreciate this video, I am not a high level player at all and I honestly didn't even know this type of scripting existed. It's something I will look out for. I've had times where I genuinely thought I was terrible because 1 person in my bot lane was dodging my Nami Q when they had no reason/idea to change their pathing multiple times in a game. I'm def going to be more aware of peoples movement when I notice patterns like these.
I like playing champs that abuse range and poke but judging from my own experience abusing dmg and range is simply not enough because you will find in ranked games that very often your adc gets caught or people dont know how to coordinate together well in a teamfight and their main focus in game is wrong and sometimes teamcomps are really bad and everyone ends up flaming everyone and just losing the game in champ select,i do blame myself for playing and maining mostly ap supports but i adapted to that kind of playstyle by improving my precision in landing skillshots and positioning but thats simply not enough.I need to learn how to play engage and frontline supports and excel at them, i mainly play bot lane although i do sometimes play jungle and am able to play mid,the only lane i dont like playing is top because if ranged toplaners,i perform very badly vs ranged top.
Every already missed shot had a delayed dodge attempt looking movement after wards. Every direct shot had an instant doge movement. Ya, I won't even argue with that. Good catch.
I cant tell if someone is dodge scripting, I think most people do not run it. But I find that some people cast where I click, and Ive gotten a few people banned. And what I mean is ill camera lock and move by spam clicking around my character, so if you cast a spell dead center on me when Im doing that multiple times it starts to become obvious.
I mean yes he's scripting, but if I were to smurf in emerald. I would just ward overextend and poke em under tower, as long I have minions under that tower.
I'm so disappointed in Riot. I had to quit League because my PC doesn't support TPM 2.0 just to find out that Vanguard does jackshit to fix scripter problem. What a joke
It's so obvious, especially in the example when he gives up cs to dodge the E under tower, who the actual fuck as a "high rank" cancels auto to run the distance of the E and not side step there, every time he dodges E, it's to run the distance of it over stepping
Since new players and low elo players like me ( I just play arams) don't know how to identify scripters, I would like you to reccomend us to what to do the rest of the match in the case of identifying a scripter in our games
Whenever I throw an ability and someone doesn't try and dodge it at all, and it literally goes right beside them, my initial thought is they are scripting. Because any gold or silver player will react to it and try and dodge it.
Everytime I say someone is scripting, people dont even listen to me. Its pretty easy to notice it when people dodge like crazy and keep a perfect spacing.
very good video. Also I really enjoy that even though i0ki's youtube persona can appear rude/obnoxious sometimes (obviously in the context of the stream), the moment he's on call with the actual person he turns extremely chill and polite.
How do people think he wasn't scripting? His reaction time and perfect pathing for dodging ults was crazy. He'd of been un-touchable if that was his real skill.
Can they for the love of god remove vanguard? Scripters are still there, and my god does that thing glitch and keep alt tabbing me out of the game, the amount of deaths and DCs/Spikes I had because of vanguard is painful
They were both scripting. Easy to tell from the start. Used to get the twitch plus lulu scripter duos a ton in my games. Like over and over. Would just have to try a different day when that crap happened. Sneaky recently reviews a game of a scripter that was caught and banned by Vanguard. He couldn't tell they were scripting until he watched a clip from qtpies stream where one play made it super obvious. But this was a guy on a new account and 80 wins in a row to GM. Also, I pointed out the Kaisa from your last video was scripting as well.
I don't even play ranked but I usually know when someone is scripting like I have a friend who does lux as her main and she rarely misses her stun we were playing one game in drafts and I forget who she was laying against in mid but she missed every stun like every single one. I noticed it myself cause I was playing Sett and I don't miss E when I'm close but I was usually you can tell if someone is scripting just by how many times they dodge your abilities. Like yes Challenger players are insane I probably won't ever reach that caliber of play, but they don't dodge every stun or every ability thrown at them specifically scripts are set for the cc ability not the damage.
I totally believe you in what you said, i'm so dog I would never think my opponent is scripting, mostly think I am bad... but I would to believe that I went from Emerald 4 to Gold 1 from last season to this because of scripts, and not because I suck.
"bUt WiTh VaNgArD ThErEs No MoRe ScRiPtInG" is what I always get whenever I point out an obvious scripter in all chat. So many low elo players do not understand how prevalent it can be despite riot releasing the stats on it. When scripting was at its worst even in like plat riot DETECTED a scripter every 1 in 10 games, in masters 1 in 6. Good work Ioki.
I cheated once in counter strike back in the day. I never cared for the game and saw some one with the most obvious aimbot and thought it was funny. I downloaded an aimbot, turned it to 11 and got banned from every server I played in within seconds. Then I got bored and never played the game again. There is a point where cheating goes from silly to sad. This person obviously cares about the game. He cares about his rank and how others perceive him. He is actually cheating on a ladder. I don't get it.
Is scripting still a thing that works threw vanguard, is it already passed? I thought this issue is finally over? but thinking of it, I only had 1 game detected which seems low
Its wild to me how people don't see this stuff. I actually noticed a couple minutes before i0ki mentioned it (likely he noticed at the same time, but didnt say till a few more examples) in the video, that twitch was getting hit by the q and like just magically dodging e. I never made it past silver rank, but this stuff is painfully obvious.
Never second guess a support’s judgment in high elo. They have more awareness and understanding than their adc A lot of the times. You always respect your support. As they usually respect you enough to keep your ass alive .
I have ran into scripting fiora that would used e pixel perfect every time even when you held cc to try throwing them off. I was a singed and couldn’t ever land fling. Not gonna lie I’m always a bit sus in video games cause cheating is so easy now days.
My favorite part of all this, was the flash e play… not because it was obvious (it was), but because his settings had Zyra’s ult as more important than her e, so he ran away from the center of the ult, and didn’t even try to dodge the e, so got hit by both
