@@johnd.3936 They wont stop the brain from moving but they will stop your brain getting out of your head. They absolutely do offer protection from big hits. It isn't a get out of jail for free card but at least provides some protection.
That ski patrol needs to update their training or equipment or both. Not putting a neck brace on someone found knocked out between some trees is so irresponsible.
Thank you. People need to also learn basic first aid if they have these kinds of hobbies. "Does anyone know How to call rescue"? Never good to hear that if you're the victim. I'm amazed at how medical care and awareness has gone way down in America.
Two days ago, I had soft powder in the morning that froze mid afternoon. Couldn’t tell you how, but wiped out at high speeds and smashed my head, tunnel vision, ears ringing etc, don’t even want to imagine what would’ve happened if I wasn’t wearing my helmet
@@tybauer1108 glad you're OK. if you crashed that hard in a helmet may need to get a new helmet. Most helmets are good for one hard impact the the protective material is compromised.
Saved my skull from being completely cracked open from wearing a helmet this year. Fell back on 100% solid ice and helmet cracked from the impact. Might've been dead without it who knows
That sounds awful! This year after a large snowfall I went skiing and I leaned too far forward and my skis hooked. I flew 20ft, landed on my face, scorpioned and then flipped. It could’ve been a lot worse than some pulled muscles if I hadn’t been wearing a helmet
@@SoOverBored crazy how dangerous it can get in an instant. You also never know how hard solid ice is until you hit 100% ice. You can literally feel how thick the ice is on impact, pretty crazy
I did they same thing. My helmet didn't crack but I bet it kept my skull from cracking or a dozen staples across the back of my head. Guaranteed it saved me big time.
@@Kevinmac1120 ive been lucky with falling on soft slopes. i rarely push my limits anymore though. i want my knees to last lol. always a helmet on icy days though
I broke my neck really badly in 2017 doing gymnastics and was told that if I had tried to sit up after the crash and if my trainers hadn't known how to handle the situation (support my spine, hold my neck straight and not let me move) I would be paralyzed from the neck down right now. I have pretty much made a full recovery thanks to my trainers and the first responders taking all the precautions and putting me on a spinal board and doing x rays even though nobody at first thought I had seriously hurt myself more than strained a muscle. ALWAYS always take spinal precautions if you find someone in a situation like this.
Had a student at high school, I was librarian, head was in a brace connected to his shoulders. Could not move his head to see something had to move his whole body. Yeah, he'd broken his neck somehow, and yes, he made a complete recovery. But man, he was a tall kid and looked like Frankenstein's monster coming down the halls! (Good guy, had a sense of humor about it.)
Just be weary when not letting people move, don't try to hold them down. You may well know, but someone might get the wrong idea from the way its worded and to to hold someone down.
@@portlandexotics4633 we were smoking on a blunt in the woods so the ski patrol wouldn’t see us. When the bud hit I was ready to shred so I went down and he said he would come right after when he finished the blunt. But then he ended up passing out and fell asleep. So that’s what you’re seeing, my homie asleep in the trees
The whole event was a shit show! I am so appalled at how this was handled from start to finish!!! Then put in the internet for “a poor college student” to get money! FFS disguising!! This needs to be removed off the internet. I would be suing if I was this guy.
if this happens to you, got to the nearest lift and tell the operator, all of we have a phone or a radio, we have direct comunication with patrollers, just let us know
Yes this,or have the number to Ski Patrol on your phone (Some mountains it on the website). As a Ski Instructor at a small hill i have never had to call ski patrol before thankfully
patrollers had special training for those situations, we must get them asap, u will waste lot of time calling 911 or waiting for a patroller to luckily pass around
Impressed by the speed of intervention, but not by the way they handled him and rolled him down the slope. No neck brace, nothing. Good thing he didn't have a back injury...
Hi, wilderness first responder here: normally someone is unlikely to have a spinal injury worsened by a roll. It's crucial to get them to advanced care asap and they need to be moved in order for that to happen. They did it correctly
Ski patrol are morons. Usually only 1/5 has any real medical experience because it’s very easy to get pointless certifications. Dude was breathing and conscious. There’s no reason to rush moving him so quickly. The first responder starts moving him before anyone else is there. His job is to keep the person still and calm while determining the severity of their injuries. Instead he start wiggling the victim around.
@@FumblsTheSniper Yeah EMT here, after assessing ABCs the patient seemed stable from this video. No need to hurry with the extrication and transport. I cringed a little when they rolled him onto the litter with no c spine control.
@@Jh0ac I just did lifeguard certification a couple weekends back, and we were trained to move potential spinal injury victims wayyy slower than that, even in deep water!
This is actually very intense. Glad he was okay, discovering bodies is a lot harder to deal with, so so glad he was able to be helped and was not out on his own doing any freestyle.
Sure is. I found an older woman dead on a sand dune in the middle of a snow storm about 1pm. Just sitting up frozen on the trail mouth wide open eyes shut. And I was just thinking it was a good spot to eat my lunch on my way back to work. Thought I'd check out the waves/Beach. Wrong.
Ski patroller here. I was impressed with how quickly so many patrollers arrived on the scene. Including toboggan. Many comments about no neck brace or spinal immobilization. They would have done some checks before moving him. It is now known that further spinal injury from gently moving a patient is rare/ unlikely - nothing compared to the violence of the initial impact. The patient kept trying to sit up - pehaps a serious concussion and the guy didn't know where he was or what was happening!? Asking where am I? What happened? about 20 times...
Look...the fact that the patient complained of back pain enough that they were using a backboard says something. The fact that they dumped the patient off of the backboard because they forgot to strap him down says something else. Watch the video again and tell me that these guys know what they are doing. They had a hard time figuring out how to strap him down AFTER they dumped him on the ground.
I just got my EMT license in December. I was told multiple times in training that a lot of protocols are changing to no longer requiring c-collars or backboards.
Well, may have been the best option if he had a fractured spinal cord or back injuries/head injuries. People should not be lifted out of cars for this reason
WEAR HELMETS EVERYONE PLEASE!! I'M A VETERAN BOARDER BUT I'VE HAD MY SHARE OF ACCIDENTS, CONCUSSIONS, TEMPORARY AMNESIA, ETC FROM HITS TO MY HEAD OVER THE YEARS WHEN I WAS YOUNG. NOW I'M 41 AND HAVE SUSPECTED CTE AMONGST OTHER SERIOUS HEALTH PROBLEMS RELATED TO MULTIPLE HEAD INJURIES FROM 20 YEAR'S AGO NOW.
CDP-choline or GPC-choline help restore brain from injuries/concussions. Not immediately, but over several months-years. I've known people using it to recover from concussions. Or hyperbaric oxygen chambers. All professional footballers/sportsmen use them.
Crazy. I just found a guy in the trees with a fully dislocated shoulder three days ago. Stayed with him for half an hour or so until ski patrol showed up. The guy had epilepsy and had a few episodes during the wait. Felt bad for him but what else you gonna do.
@Montana Weatherby saw a work place injury accident. The man fell off a ladder about 3 stories up. Landed head first and lived. His coworkers ran over and in their panic picked him up and he died instantly. His neck was broken but aligned and when they picked him up the fracture moved severing his spinal cord.
@@lindanwfirefighter4973 Lucky to be alive. A friend of mine works as a first responder and he told me this story. Car crash scene: a dad with his daughter The impact was pretty violent, the dad was fine and he managed to make the daughter walk out of the car. As first responders arrived (my friend including) they told him that they needed to take her daughter to the hospital to make sure she was fine. Her dad repeatedly refused since "she was walking, therefore she was totally fine". Long story short, as her dad kept denying the first responders to take his daughter for further medical inspection, there was nothing that they could legally do to take her into custody, so they let both her and her dad go. In the very same moment the girl tried to fasten her seatbelt, her neck cracked and she dropped dead. That is all because her dad was being an ignorant and ignoring medics' advice She could have been alive now but stupidity won
@@s1mo True. My uncle helped a guy out of a crashed car and called an ambulance. The guy was arguing with the ambulance crew but he did finally get in the ambulance. Later my uncle rang the hospital on call to ask how the man was doing. The man had passed. His spleen was ruptured in the crash. He had no way of knowing the risks and felt he was going to be all right. Always respect the crew - they don't want to scare you but so much can go wrong.
@@donnahindall118 no most people do, every day on the mountain I probably see 2-3 people without helmets compared to hundreds with helmets. Never seen someone at the park without a helmet
@@oak8728 no it doesn’t depend on the mountain. I ride Breckenridge every weekend and always 1-2 dumbasses without helmets. Everyone I see usually wears a helmet for warmth and protection.
@@colettesantoro6233 you‘re definitely right about not moving him, because of further injuries. However you should always check if a person is breathing and if you can check their heart rate and their pupils. If they are not breathing move the person straight away, risking injuries is not your worst problem then. If they are conscious stay with them and talk to them. :) Skiing Instructor 101 😂
@@spinsterjones4987 when I google that I only get results from australia. The american red cross does not mention it. But yes as a WFR we always check 1) is the scene safe, 2) initial 2-second assessment of what happened, 3) put on PPE, 4) check for other patients, 5) begin to assess ABCDEX
LOL, this made me laugh. Seriously though, I've never seen an accident scene where nobody approaches the person down to even see if they're breathing. So bizarre.
Finally someone who knows to put the skis up as a cross above the accident site! Warns other skiers and is a non missable sign for ski patrol. Way too often people don’t know about this. Good reaction! (Ignore all those who are so clever; calling help and securing the accident scene are the most important bits; and everything additional in a situation like this with all the adrenaline is in reality hard to do right)
Thank you for your vigilance and for taking the time to actually check on this guy, it's amazing how often I see someone injured on the hill and most of the time people just ski past.. if you see someone hurt, or off in the trees, please take the time to check on them and make sure they're OK..
That they didn't actually go down to him and see if he's dead or alive or in need of help is beyond me ..I can't understand or believe how detached they were
Crazy as it might be, interfering in any way with an unconscious person in a situation like this is actually the stupidest thing you can do. If they had rushed down and shaken him or climbed on him or anything he could have potentially been killed.
@@greatalaska6429 In a world where you could be sued, it's ultimately best to let the FA professionals do their thing when you know they're coming. Especially true since the guy filming didn't see the accident
think about how many people went right by this guy. this exact thing happened to me and i busted my shoulder, it takes TWO seconds to stop and see if someone is okay, don’t be selfish people.. that could be your kid one day.
The bystander effect. One time i saw a guy fall flat on his back on a bigjump in the bottom of a slope and was knocked unconscious while i was standing in line for tickets 100-200 meters further down. We figured everyone has seen this and the employes of the resort will take care of it. But after like a minute with no one doing anything i pushed my way trough the line and asked the girl behind the counter if they where going to do something? Then she radioed someone and they sent a snowmobile up to check him out (still unconscious laying on the landing).
When I broke my face at keystone the skis the ski patrol put up to warn people to go around fell down and hit me in the head. I think it's just a ski patrol thing...
I don't think the point was to gain "credit" at all... It's just a video... In my opinion it's educational to show people what could happen... To remind folks both to make safer choices and also to be aware of your surroundings and look out for others who might be in danger!
Never ski or snowboard without a helmet, I know from experience, took just one severe concussion to realize its as essential as your board. Been snowboarding for 15 years.
Thank you guys for helping that poor kid..Not something everyone would do nowadays and things could have gone bad quickly for him in the position he was in.
My sister was skiing with someone that went full speed into a tree with a helmet a few months ago. He is still recovering and learning to talk apparently. But without the helmet he would have been dead.
After living in breck for the last 5 years, I've heard about deaths by trees on resorts every year, we just lost an elderly man last week to a tree collision 😥
People in denial..they taking life for a granted and think that nothing and never will happen to them..and then next thing you know..accident..instant trauma..they are dead and no longer around us..😣😪
No kidding - I woke up hugging a tree there once, lost the last few seconds of how I got there. I swear the trees there are just a few inches too close together! and for sure: wear a helmet!
Good for them for not moving him. The only thing I would be worried about is the trees and force of gravity compressing his chest and causing him to suffocate.
Good job putting skis up when I busted my knee on a jump several people almost hit me being I couldn't move. Appreciate people who pay attention and help those in need. Again Good Job and great footage.
I remember some guy in the 70's who went skiing for the first time with friends. They told him it was easy just point down hill and go straight. Poor guy was NOT taught how to turn, stop or even fall. He hit a tree head on at some ungodly speed and was killed instantly.
@@liz9843 You DON’T, you absolute cretin. If in ANY situation you find somebody who is not responding then you ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS CHECK IF THEY ARE BREATHING. Is their airway clear? If they are not breathing then you FUCKING MOVE THEM into a position where you can start CPR. It does not matter if you’re worried they have spinal injuries because THEY ARE FUNCTIONALLY DEAD and it is on you to keep their heart beating and oxygen circulating around their body until help arrives.
Checking the pulse isn’t a priority. Most untrained people (and many trained) can’t find a pulse in the field anyway. What you need to check is: IS THE CASUALTY BREATHING? If they’re not breathing - or doing agonal breathing (pls google what that sounds like) - then you need to call for help and start CPR immediately.
This demonstrates how crucial it is for 1st aid training, the guy was on the ground way too long. Knowing what to do in circumstances like this is paramount, next time it could be your kids, spouse or friend.
He didn't witness it so it's probably best he didn't try helping him incase he caused anything worse. If he already called ski patrol to help then it's no far from the best he could have done for the circumstances
@@BCcherokee No anything is better than doing nothing. Everyone should know first aid, and everyone should assist someone in need. In this case it was a good decision to wait for the ski patrol because he was breathing, ski patrol was close by, and moving him could worsen any possible neck and back injury (but seeing how badly the ski patrol did with no neck brace and handling him like that it would no have made a difference). But if someone is not breathing, or has some serious bleeding going on you start first aid no matter if you are worried about neck and back injury's. Its a reason why it is called FIRST aid.
@@titter3648 Anything is NOT better than nothing, unless you are trained. He saw that he was breathing and got ski patrol there. I wouldn’t want some random person saying, um, let’s do just do anything. It’s not that easy to maneuver in ski boots on the side of a steep hill. I would have easily slid right into him if I tried to move too fast.
Jesus, happy it ended the way it does. But do they really just slide them down in this cage? In Europe they get them down in a proper snowmobile. This looks hella uncomfortable and dangerous in an emergency.
We have both, but the "cages" Are better here, it depends on lots of conditions: weather, how far it's from hospital/mountain rescue hut/clinic, how fatal is the injury, if it's really bad the helicopter is called or the patient is moved to the helipad and what vehicles are available. In our mountains we have snowmobiles, something that's similar to snowcad or tracked quad bike. Also as I said we have these cages that are better constructed and operated by 2 or 4 people.
Good job my friend. I had this happen to me in 1996...I was on ski's and my binding was new...really tight and when I hit the last mogul and I just had no flex...it was back when "shape" ski's were kind of new on the East Coast and I had just bought the pair at the end of the previous season...long story short, the lack of flex and the way the ski was made caused it to act as a springboard and propelled me over the net and right between two trees...helmets were not a requirement at the time...I had a massive bleed and thank God I had a calm passerby like yourself because the story has been shared with me about some hysterical teens trying to move me and it would have killed me. So GREAT JOB knowing what to do and not do.
S/o the homies for keeping the eyes peeled... Who knows how long he could've been there if they didn't see him. Were all family on the mountain. Ill definitely be on the lookout more after this one.💯
My aunt is 50+ and she still goes out and snowboards. She tells me stories about being stuck under a tree, and thinking for sure she'd be dead. Helmet or not, it can happen to anyone.
Great hazard marking with the skis and poles. I see a bunch of comments citing the lack of basic first aid, but you did good. Communicated and minimized further injury. You shouldn't do anything else unless you are trained. There are professional all over the ski hill to do that.
That’s awesome for all involved who stopped to help!! Thanks god we are all here to help one another other wise god would have made us live alone. Choose kindness!!
@@KathyHoismygovtnm its better to have some air then no air lol if he wasnt snoring then you wouldnt know if he was getting oxygen at all. Are you going to freak out if you hear someone snoring in bed and shake them awake because there not getting "sufficent oxygen" no. The only way to know if someone is getting sufficent oxygen is via pulse ox or the color of there lips/skin.
Normal snoring is not something to worry about but this man just had a head injury. When has sustained a head injury and you can hear them snoring, traditional first aid says you're supposed to move his head or body into a position in which his airway is no longer obstructed. You shouldn't just dismiss his injury as, "He's fine since you can hear him breathing." He could end up with severe brain injury or permanently comatose. If you're saying that snoring is a good sign because that means he's alive, then yes of course it is a good thing to know that he is alive. Yes, some air is better than no air but snoring itself is not a good sign after a head injury, especially if it is loud snoring. Snoring happens when there is an obstruction to the airway, meaning that there is a chance that not enough oxygen is reaching his brain. Snoring could be a sign of imminent danger to life or quality of life. A GOOD sign would be breathing with no obstruction, which you can check by seeing seeing if his chest is rising and falling or by putting a piece of glass, like their goggles, under his nose. Breathing IS a good sign, but not snoring.
@@kathrynaguenza4508 snoring can be associated with breathing but agonal breathing sounds like snoring and if it is agonal then you have a serious problem on your hands and you dont have much time and every second counts.
@@cold758 the least you have to do is to check whether he is breathing or not. And you need to relay that to the emergency dispatcher as he is the one deciding whether to just send out the paramedics or to send out an emergency doctor as well. And for that you don't even have to touch the patient!
BRO NICE SAVE! i literally dealt with this exact scenario last week. one thing i have noticed though compared to 10 years ago, EVEYONE wears helmets now.
Wow that’s great you found him. I wonder how many others are stuck in the snow injured 🤕 & never found. This is giving me anxiety just watching. Where is the ski 🎿 patrol EMT helper men? I hope 🤞Gus is okay.
This is why I'm always glad people on the mountains are more caring for each other - when I fall badly and need to lie down for a second for the pain to pass the passerby's don't just ignore it and check whether I'm truly ok and then go on. Same for me - if I see someone down, I'll check if they're ok. Guess it's 'cuz we all know it's a dangerous pastime and takes less than a second for you to go down. Helmet is my friend.
I don't hit the slopes. But I'm still haunted by an old news story. A young gal had gone missing on a perfect powder day. They eventually found her upside down in a tree well. I believe that she was hanging by her boot/board bindings. It was devastating. Please, never go alone. And if you happen to notice that a jacket color off in the distance is no longer there, please stop and check. It could save a life.
If this happens to anyone in the future, the phone numbers for ski patrol and all local emergency services should be on the back of the piste map so even if you know the resort very well it is always a good idea to carry a piste map just in case
Whoa! That was scary! From Hawaii!? Did you find out if he’s okay or what his injuries were? Hope you’re doing well! Thanks for stopping and helping this poor kid!
This was hard to watch for a paramedic. At first no first aid from the guys who found him and then the people who are trained for exactly these situations did an awful job. Compromising his health even further. I dont know where they got their education but this was really shocking to watch.
If someone has a possible neck injury you shouldn't move them. What could I do if I found someone in this situation to help without moving them? Genuinely curious.
@@j0ndav1s CPR is also a good idea but I'm not an expert to recommend it. I don't know what to do if they have broken ribs, punctured lungs, or need to be moved to start CPR.
Liam Neeson wife died on a Canadian ski hill in Montreal. She had a head injury, she fell hit her head and was not wearing a helmet. So please wear your helmets.
Important to note that she fell during a ski lesson on a small slope and no one even realized she had hurt herself. She was walking and talking normally and the concussion took about an hour to kick in before anyone realized how badly she was hurt. You can Google the news stories. It's actually a really strong case for wearing a helmet no matter what
This exact thing happened to a classmate of mine. He was 17 years old and it took him years to get back to anything remebling a normal life. He had to learn everything again, from tying shoes to reading.
@@timothyfoleyjr2796 i fell pretty bad once and knocked my head hard.. ended up with a ruptured spleen as well.. but i actually got up and snowboarded down to the bottom. i told my friends i wanted to just take a break. i called my friends multiple times wondering where they were. luckily, one of them knew something was wrong with me and raced back down to the bottom ( they had gone back up lift, leaving my in ski lodge).. and he went and got ski patrol. he doesn't realize he probably saved my life!
@@timothyfoleyjr2796 my point, i take safety seriously when skiing. one of those guys should have started immediatly skiing towards the nearest lift to inform ski patrol. if you super paranoid you could even invest in a good walkie talkie and ask ski patrol what a good channel is if they are in an emergency.. some mountains have this set up
Wow what flashback! Saw this and started watching when that particular B logo caught my eye. Sure enough Breckinridge! I too have had to take that backwards, backboard downhill ride by Ski Patrol at Breckinridge! Altitude sickness. My over enthusiasm flying in from San Jose, CA to immediately start skiing and not wait to acclimate spelled my doomed ski day! I got lucky I did not fall from passing out and really injure myself. Just turned green around the gills, as I lost my equilibrium above tree line. NOT as damn lucky as this Guy, Gus. He could’ve ended up in a “tree well” , always my worst fear while skiing. In that position, head downhill, no helmet in the trees...he would’ve stopped breathing. Guardian Angel he had that day. Hope Gus is well. 👍🙏🏻😁
