I found even more issues with the iPhone 16 Pro camera. The hits just keep coming 

Unfortunately, the 18.0.1 update did not solve the problem. There are blue stripes in semi-darkness. However, it is not on in complete darkness and the blue dot is much less in the raw photos.

Yes, working much better now

Thanks mate

@@ShayneMostyn No Prob! And Sorry I failed to mention - I have the iPhone 16 Pro. 👍🏻👍🏻

Just done the table photo on my 15 pro max,30 secs and it was completely pitch black

Me too!

Lucky mate

@@dadou007007 yeah but you are in France so it’s normal you have blue issue allez Les bleus !

Me too mate

It's not a widespread problem, if YOU don't have it? 😂

@@wschnitzler i meant all the iphones when i meant widespread !

Thanks mate

@@MrClickit67 man where do you live to receive it so late ???

@@bghimself440 I’m in the uk. It was a pre order.Not sure why it took so long.

@@MrClickit67 btw don’t be afraid I ain’t got that blue issue problems in my pictures got a 16 pro max 512gb

@@EdwardRuthinowski not sure many people will go through this huge post …

True. When you try and be detailed on a couple of short sentences, people don’t have the attention span, but sometimes good information exist in details. I read through a lot of stuff and often find the greatest explanation is sometimes in the thing that’s the most boring to finally plug through all of the comments of that particular post, but sometimes that’s where the answers live.Anyway, just an info for anyone who may read and share it in their own way or benefit from it thanks for your honest comment for sure.

Holy shit. So you have two exact same phones and they give different result? Thats crazy

Ive already spoken with contacts at Apple about some issues. Then this line as well. You can look back through my videos, I never bash any companies. This launch has been a slap in the face to be fair. I appreciate where youre coming from mate

@@ShayneMostyn i know your content very well you’re a bloody legend in the mobile photography community that’s why I said my comment wasn’t directed at you

Checkered Pattern WE SAW ON S２４ Ultra THIS YEAR MORON ❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓ Samsung why are you still keeping quiet about this??? This is pathetic! Thats why you LOOSE customers! We all MUST punish you and never buy Samsung products again! This is how you treat your customers ?! Recently, reports among Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra users about a significant issue concerning screen quality have been on the rise. This issue, particularly evident when displaying dark colors like dark gray, manifests as a graininess or sandiness, noticeable at both low and high brightness settings. This situation degrades the expected quality of AMOLED screen technology, which is known for its deep black levels and high contrast ratio. Similar problems have not been observed in previous Samsung models such as the S23 Ultra and Galaxy S9 Plus, indicating that the current situation is unusual. I support this issue with photos collected from different user forums and images taken from my own device. The photos demonstrate the reality and impact of the problem, showing that it is not limited to a specific group of users. The ineffectiveness of recent updates on the Korea to resolve the issue suggests that it is not a software problem but a hardware-related one. One of the biggest disappointments is Samsung's lack of any official statement or satisfactory solution to address users' concerns. The suggestion by a moderator on the Samsung Korea Forum to use the device at maximum brightness and in light mode seems like a temporary measure rather than a real solution, raising concerns for users' eye health. This situation reinforces the view that Samsung needs to be more transparent and effective in recognizing this widespread issue and finding an appropriate solution. Users deserve to know the cause behind the grainy appearance of the screen, which production batches are affected, and what steps Samsung is taking to resolve this issue. Additionally, the presence of pixel-like errors that resemble shining dust inside the screen when exposed to direct light while the screen is off further increases concerns about screen quality. This problem has been observed not only in the S24 Ultra but also in other Samsung devices such as the Tab S9 Ultra. In this context, we expect Samsung to make a clear statement about these issues, conduct the necessary investigations to identify the affected devices and batches, and take concrete steps to maintain customer satisfaction and product quality. As a user community, we are aware that such issues can harm the overall quality of products and brand perception, and we hope that Samsung takes these concerns seriously and provides effective solutions. Yeah, I honestly believe the grain is present on ALL S24 units unfortunately. There are A LOT (if not ALL) of units in the S24 line that have a problem of noise that appears on dark screens and low brightness (like when we use the phone in bed before going to sleep). What happens is that the subpixels of the display have different intensities in low brightness (as you can see in this picture below by Android Central), which causes grain. 20240218_172245.jpg This problem is called mura, and all manufacturers know how to get rid of it using a demura process, but apparently Samsung simply skipped this step on the S24 line. You can read more about it in this article by Android Central here. In this Reddit post, there's a person who returned their phone FIVE times and they all had the exact same problem. Some people don't notice it, but apparently every unit has it. Also, some people (like me) have terrible diagonal lines on the screen, in addition to the noise, as you can see in this picture below, by a Reddit user: Mine has grain AND diagonal lines, while my fiancé's has grain. This is unacceptable on a phone that costs $1300, and what's even more unacceptable is how Samsung is (not) handling this.

I'll go out tonight (I'm in the Adelaide Hills) & do a tripod shot & see what happens.

Did the update, nothing's changed.

No, I havent seen any difference there. Whats wrong with it?

Yeah, the blue liines seem to be fairly common. I will be contacting Apple today

The only thing the update has fixed is the camera freezing. Everything else is still happening. Thanks mate

No mate, not these. This is a sensor problem

I’m curious. If you get red, did you cover the camel lens with your hand. I know when I put a finger over a camera lens to try and obscure the light. I get some reddish spotting over the years, but if I put the camera lens completely against a leather pillow or the leg of some pants or whatever that ensures there’s literally no light I might get a different result of an actual black outcome. It doesn’t mean that any of the artifacts that are present should be present on photos that are taken where there’s a minimal amount of light regardless buttrue black true dark test would require not setting it just on the counter or a flat table because the camera bump will result in other than a perfectly flat contact with the camera and the surface of the table.

@@EdwardRuthinowski I put the lenses against the black fabric of my shorts for the test I did

I got it on my 16 Pro Max with the update, but I pressed it firmly against a leather wrapped pillow and then I didn’t get it and the exposure time was the same for each case but my curiosity is whether or not if you have a flat against something completely obscuring light you get a different result because setting it on the table when there’s a camera bump, and it rocks a little bit lets a little bit of light in. Much like if you set your camera against your hand a little light transmitted through your finger and then it’s usually more reddish.But curious with light obscuration if you get the same outcome. Every year I get more than one iPhone because I have more than one problem with the cameras that require multiple phones to get the best outcome usually at the expensive one lens or another being not as good as the other physical phone are the same making and model released at the same time.

@@EdwardRuthinowski I've tried a bunch of different tests now and it's pretty severe on my main camera, a bit of an issue on my 5x, and not an issue on my ultrawide. I'm pretty confident it's not a light leak as I've been testing with an (opaque) case that has a lip around the module and then holding that lip flat against microfiber cloths on my desk to ensure a tight seal. Most damming, I can see the same blue patterns in pitch black shots and shots with very low light; I took some shots in an otherwise dark closet with some light shining under the door and no matter where in the closet I took a photo, there was the same glowing blue streaks discoloring the image (always in the same pattern).

Thanks mate

Seems to be the case. Lots of people with this blue

Thanks mate

Thank you

The only thing the update has fixed is the camera freezing. Everything else is still happening.

@@ShayneMostyn mines all black when taking the dark pics having issues with the photo app and half my screen flashing black when trying to view pictures currently.

I kinda got that with my 16 Pro Max, but then I pushed it firmly against a leather pillow and got a perfectly black screen so maybe there’s light entry because when you put it flat on the table it’s not really flat because the cameras are on a bump, and the other corner is touching the table and just a portion of the lens is touching the table, allowing light in so maybe replicate and ensure the lenses are completely covered with a leather binder a microfiber a pillowinto a leather jacket or your pants leg

The tripod needs to be completely still if your holding it it will have movement, place it still on the tripod and you will see the 30s pop up

@@DanMitchellDj The phone was fixed in the tripod and wasn’t going move or come loose though.

Considering these problems, what do you think is the best iphone (pro) for photography/video up to today? An opinion would be very appreciated, thanks.

Oh My God!

@@ShayneMostyn I’m here all day 🥁

To be fair, its the same camera as the 15 pro and it doesnt do it.

Reading the comments shows a good enough number to call it a camera issue rather than software. Might be worth a chat to Apple.

Same. Mine had 3 blue pixels.

The only thing the update has fixed is the camera freezing. Everything else is still happening.

The only thing the update has fixed is the camera freezing. Everything else is still happening.

What the heck are tou talking about? I’m lucky to own over 50 pounds of photographic equipment and yes, it enables me to take some great shots not available on my phone, like at all. But I’m sure you don’t expect your new flagship phone to be worse than your old phone. And that’s the point of this video. So let’s be real here.

First time here eh? We have been doing this on this channel for years now. This issue has never existed before.

Thanks mate. The only thing the update has fixed is the camera freezing. Everything else is still happening. The blue lines seems only for some folks

What?

@@ShayneMostyn🤣

@@ShayneMostyn , I'll send you a photo

Lines for me with 18.0.1 but i can also produce total black pic if i turn exposure down.

So if its pitch black you dont see those lines.. let some light come thru so there is something visible in ur photo

No, I think its something else. If it was Lidar, everyone would have the issue.

Curious, if in bathroom on counter with “total darkness“ you will get a different outcome if you put it against something like a vinyl wrapped binder or the leg of your pants or a leather wrapped pillowcase where you can absolutely guarantee there is no light getting in. Even in the darkest room where there’s the most minuscule amount of light It’s also possible that you’re getting artifacts that you shouldn’t get, but if you could completely obscure the light entry by not letting it sit on the table where the camera bump causes a slight rock over the phone, which of course means it is not perfectly flat to the table surface so maybe if you got perfect prevention of light you’d get a black screen. Of course that’s not realistically what happens in any real world situation and the artifacts shouldn’t be there but I’m curious if you literally ensure complete darkness through completely covering by compressing the phone lightly into something that ensures literally zero light would you still get those artifacts. Because I got them on the table top, but when I pushed my phone into the pillow, I did not. Nobody takes a picture that way so I completely understand. It’s not an explanation or an excuse, it just might lend a little further understanding to the circumstances that create this.

@@EdwardRuthinowski great info! I’m going to try again.

True mate

I think it is also possible that it’s hardware because in a separate post from me in response to this topic, I tried to inform anyone who happened to read it that for many years I bought multiple iPhones of the promax version and every single time each phone has different camera problems from the failure to focus in corners to slight blurriness throughout but at the time of release or probably at any time 15 Pro Max versus 15 Pro Max B or 14 Pro Max a versus 14 Pro Max B and so on the main camera, lens may be better on one of two phones side-by-side, but the ultra might be better on the other of those two phones and the selfie phone camera may be better on one and worse than the other, so it is possible, as always that a software update might fix something and it’s also possible that Different user experiences are related to the manufacturing control or lack there of that result in disparity between user experience. Also, well, I think no one should get these artifacts and I even get them on my own 16 Pro max and feel like overall the camera system is not better but marginally worse with some new features like 4K 120 etc. but sometimes the subtle differences and even how people handle these things are not well understood. For example, you should not get these artifacts because normal circumstances don’t completely obscure light, but setting it on a table top with a camera bump can result in minimal light entry as the phone can rock ever so slightly and even in the dark room, it might pick up a little bit of light that contributes to artifacts that can be seen (which should not happen) but if compressing the phone gently into the leg of a pant or a vinyl or leather wrappedbook binder or cover or into a darkly colored pillow to absolutely guarantee there is literally no light entry I get a different outcome. I don’t take a picture like that normally but I got a jet black screen doing it that way and blue artifacts doing it on the table top and a very dark room. Also, another reason some users may get different experiences as one person may have a case with a thickness that brings the camera bump, even with or flushed to the rest of the case, while another may still leave it pronounced, resulting in a little rock and a little difference in outcome explaining why some people do and don’t get it. It may be a false answer. That’s not well. Understood just by the simple difference between how people Have their phone covered. Again not an explanation for Apple. I always have problems with their phones and software many times significant obvious failures for years they don’t fix because they literally tell me not enough. People report them directly so they’re not gonna spend the time on it even if they understand a problem that they don’t feel like enough users complain about directly to them. I’ve even pointed to these forums and they say that’s fine butif you’re the one calling in and no one else is, that’s not enough sometimes in their own words, of course

I have those lines, and also, i can take pitch black photo without lines. So, photo needs little light leak to to show something in that picture and then you can see those lines

@@skeimi78 yes I agree. I believe it’s some sort of light sneaking in. I took my picture in a relatively dark room with no visible light source and photo came pitch dark. I wonder if I had a light source in the corner of the room it leads to the blue vignette?!

Thanks mate. Me too

You are a lucky one mate

Pixel shouldnt have this issue. Thanks mate

Only really low light.. sensor needs some light and those lines appear. So if you fully block all possible light then photo is pitch black and lines do not appear

Only low light

Many things were mentioned in the video from Ultra Wide quality to blue streaks to sticker so what are you indicating is fixed for other readers?

Same lines with 18.0.1 for me

@@EdwardRuthinowski fixed for me. Don’t know about others.

@@skeimi78 fixed for me.

No nothing to do with stars. Thanks mate

Yeah, absolutely. Did you work out a way to consistently get photos and videos from the Pixel to the Mac?

No tripod?

@@ShayneMostyn I think my table has the special 30 second chip.

Thanks mate

Camera need some light, no pitch black.. ofcourse there are no lines if there is no light. Test should done that there is some light in ur photo, not pitch black

@@skeimi78 I’ve redone the test many times with different levels of light entering the camera and still can’t see any blue lines/hue. I’ve followed the ‘phone on a table’ test, but later tonight I’ll try some actual night photography.

@@carlosroldao if its pitch black then ur doing it wrong. There should be "something" in ur photo

If there is some light and no lines, then i think ur not having this issue

@@carlosroldaowhat ios version you have?

Thanks mate

Thanks mate

tried on a white surface and both heif and raw pictures look similar. in the center of the picture is white circle same like the pattern of a flashlight in darkness on a wall and the more you go outwards of the center the white fades into darker and darker grey. The RAW file has the same weird thing saying it was 10s only instead of 30s but iso now is 2500 at 1.9ev file size 14.8mp the heif file size is 1.1mb iso 4000 ev 2.4. the only difference between raw and heif is that raw white looks more white while the white on heif has a little green tint in it. i think for some reasons when it sits down on a black surface it just detects the color black and is not getting into night mode

Thanks mate. Seems you dont have the issue.