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Great stuff, glad I found this channel. I do believe however, that Arthur actually was adopted. You made the brilliant point about the mental illness and being hereditary, but I like to point out the idea that part of his life is in his head. I almost avoided this movie because I didn't like the idea of giving Joker an actual identity. When I finally watched it and that scene happens, I gave in immediately to this movie, because of the fact he thought he was "Arthur Fleck", a face his mother beat him into accepting (thus building up walls in his brain and causing his mental decline) and instead he realizes that he's free from any of society's view of what he should be. Name and all. Of course this is just my two cents.
I just noticed while watching this, when Arthur is banging his head on the glass, is he OUTSIDE the Observation Room? The lock is on his side of the door, and the words Observation Room are on the wall, wouldn’t they be outside the room?
He also uses his left and right hands at different points throughout the movie when he smokes or shoots. Possibly indicating whether the scene was a fantasy or real.
11:11 o'clock is also the time in a part of Germany, that is connected with the 11th of November, what is the beginning of the year's "fifth" season, Karneval/ carneval, where you dress yourself up and pretend to be someone else and where you want to bring joy to the world, make fun, etc. I guess it used to be a celebration to let the bad things in the world/ the devil fade away and be happy again.
ACE is also likely a reference to the ACE Chemical Plant. In the comics, this is a location where the Joker fell into a vat of chemicals and became the Joker as the chemicals change the pigmentation of his skin and hair and broke his mind or gave him the final push he needed.
@@yashkaliapiano thanks. I laugh while I read it again and look at the colours used within. The film fits the colours quite well. The brown - yellowish colours at Arthur's home and the quite opposite in the Joker scenes. The Joker here doesn't die in the end though.
Aashish Khakha no. Just no. Unless it’s a story that centers around the same dark themes then there’s really no call for the same style. Unless your just referring to having great attention to detail in which Russo brother, cranag, favrou, Whedon, all made comic movies with equal detail.
Can't agree at all. Yes, it's a great movie, but at the end, it is more a character studie than an actual comic book movie, it just happens to be based on a comic book character. This is certainly not what you would want for every comic book movie to be. This is certainly not what you would want from a comic book based movie, and it was miracle it worked out so well in here. Not to mention if every comic book movie would go this route, it would get freaking tiring very fast and at the end may even put this movie in a bad light for "starting this trend"
I didn't notice a lot of these, but the one that mostly impressed me was the simarites/parallels between Arthur and Bruce,it's really cool that the put that in
Arthur's mother never abused him as a child. She just stood by when her boyfriend(not Wayne) assaulted her and tied him to a radiator. I got so depressed when she says that he was always just a happy little boy, not noticing that he was actually in tremendous pain.
I think honestly the fat guy set arthur up He gave arthur the gun and when the cops came he told them arthur paid for it, it’s a usual cowardish thing people do I’d like to think that was reality (happens to many)
I think fat guy set him up too. It's just an ounce amongst the tons of abuse that Arthur was subjected to that led to his psychotic break, turning him into The Joker
11:00 Some additional scene mirroring (I like to think they do, at least): A. In the beginning part of the movie, Arthur rides the bus with his head pressed on the glass, sad face and pale-blue colors, rain. Later, towards the end, Joker rides in the back of the police car with his head pressed on the glass, but this time the scene is more colorful in the background, and he has a smile on his face. B. The scene where Arthur physically forces a smile in the mirror (while putting on make-up) while tears of sadness roll down his face is mirrored later, when he becomes Joker -> tears are falling again, but this time tears of happiness. The smile is genuine and "permanent" (the blood one). Edit: Also in point B, when Arthur takes the fingers out of his mouth the smiles goes away with them, but when Joker puts on the blood smile and fingers come off....the smile stays doesn't go away.
I love the idea presented in Joker that he is Batman's illegitimate brother. It follows the logic from The Dark Knight as well, how Joker says in that movie, "that he would never kill Batman, because 'you complete me'". He also talks about how they are the same and that neither can truly be embraced by society. Whether or not it was intended, i completely accept the idea that they are brothers due to perpetually battle in 'sibling rivalry" for the soul of Gotham and the approval of their father. It's genius and beautiful in the most twisted of ways. This movie was such a great chapter in the book of lore that is Batman vs the Joker.
He is. There's a scene in a movie where Arthur finds an old love letter to his mom signed T.W. (Thomas Wayne) which further proves the point that he fricked her.
@@MrMich1lol for sure! I definitely walked out of JOKER feeling that TW was Arthur's father. I just mean that i love the idea as it pertains to the larger Batman universe. For an idea that had not been presented before, it felt like it fit seamlessly into the history. It just feels like a concept that should be accepted 100%. Just like everyone knows Superman is from Krypton, Batman and the Joker should be brothers. It fits so well as part of the legend that created them both.
@@themadtitan7603 he really does. Listening to him talk about everything and seeing how he shot things and why certain angles....it made me really WATCH movies in a different way.
The way you were deliberate in not using any sound or dialogue from the film and instead purposely used only the visuals in the clips you used kept distractions away while you made your points. Well done - Rock On!
Thank you for not making this another click bait video. The details you mentioned in the video were really new for me, so I appreciate that very much. Well done, sir!
I'm not a comic book guy, so I liked how this was real, gritty and dark; no one flying around with capes, etc. Does Bruce assume it was Joker who killed his parents?
I'm not a comic book guy either, but it doesn't look like that's been positively defined. I would speculate that Bruce blames the Joker for instigating the riot that got his parents killed. Joker stands for chaos and Batman stands for order in a chaotic world.
@@2112res Honestly, there are several "stories" over the years. There was the mugger Joe Chill that did it, there was Jack Napier who did it and became the Joker 30 years later and there's Arthur Fleck who started a riot during which the Waynes were killed. The circumstances are fluid but it always ends with Bruce standing over his dead parents in the alleyway.
I know I'm two years late to the party, but I think the 11.11 o'clock-thing might also be a reference to the carnvial in Cologne, Germany, which starts every year at 11.11am at the 11th of November. People run around in costumes and go crazy in this event, which is quite fitting to what's happening in the movie. Also the carnival section of Gotham where Joker resides, as you mentioned in the video.
See I always thought the Joker outfit and the curtains being similar in color meant Joker was foreshadowing that he would BE the show. His dancing in the bathroom is like an alien learning how to use a new human body. Also, Helms Pharmacy... Ed Helms from the Hangover Series
i actually think that the alleyway where joker got beat up at the opening and where thomas wayne dies at the end is the same alleyway. There's a brief shot while they are walking into that alleyway where the camera has a sort of dutch tilt angle. And in the opening while joker is being beat up the same exact camera angle shows up at the same spot. It cant be a coincidence they are too similiar. Great vid btw as usual!
"American Playboy" is more likely a reference to American Gigolo, the 1980 movie with Richard Gere, written and directed by Paul Schrader, who wrote Taxi Driver, the main point of inspiration for Joker.
My dad told me once that they would smack his hands with a ruler at school when he would use his left hand to write. They would call him a freak, give him all kinds of shit, punish him and tell him that it was just all out wrong to use your left hand dominantly. Of course he couldn't help it. But because he had always been forced to try and write with his right hand, his writing was always terrible, even with his left hand, since he never got to properly learn to write with his dominant hand. That would always make me feel really bad for him, knowing how rough school was back in the 50's and 60's. Also, I'm hoping the video will eventually point out the guy in the band at the tv show who laughs at Joker's "your son was hit by a drunk driver" joke. Insinuating that other people (though only few) share Joker's warped sense of humour, letting us know how he gets his followers and why they are so devoted to him.
Thank God bro finally your video came at the right time because I was watching joker for the fifth time right now well this movie is one of the biggest masterpieces ❤❤❤ Well Rotten Tomatoes and biased media should be doomed Nice review bro 😍😍😍
hahahah my wife actually said before 'how does Joker only have 68% on Rotten Tomatoes?' Crazy how much people tried to shit on this movie and it still killed it
Great video but I disagree with a few assertions. The joke being a true story doesn't mean he's unreliable, it could've been inspired by it really happening. Thomas asking if he wants money doesn't mean his mom did too, he incredibly wealthy and it wouldn't be a stretch to think people ask him for it a lot so maybe Arthur is too or it doesn't happen a lot and it was just the first reason Thomas though of that Arthur would bring this up, or it could be him trying to offer him money to keep it quiet, true or not, just to protect his reputation.
I don't think that Penny has Narcissistic Personality Disorder at all. I think she's very humble and truly believes that Mr. Wayne is her sons father. She may be a victim or she may be psychotic, but neither are signs of any type of personality disorder. That would be an incorrect diagnosis, which happens. Also, her papers state that she was admitted for the 3rd time at age 25. Would she have been allowed to adopt a child, all by herself with an extensive psychiatric history?
Forget about the clock. It's the exact same room as the room as in the hospital. They just changed the texture on the walls. The one way window is simply covered up.
OK. Easy. 11:11 is 22 if you do the maths. 22 represents The Fool (the Joker) in Tarot. For instance, Shane (from The Walking Dead) had a necklace with this number... I think... after embracing his crazy inner-self... when he shaves his head... as far as I can recall. The Fool portraits "two faces"... not the same as the character "Two-face" (that's different). The fool (or the crazy one) shows his "real" "face" when using a "mask"... that's his real being. This has some relations to Superman... as Bill (in Kill Bill) explains... when you see Superman in his suit... that's the real one... not Clark Kent; Clark is a disguise (a mask). The "Joker" is the real one... once he is freed by madness. On the other hand, Batman "hides" his face behind a mask. Anyway, some Shakespearean plays can confirm that the "jokers" (the fools) were not fools at all: they were the cleverest and the wittiest.
Narcissism is not hereditary as such. Abuse from a narcissist creates a sociopath or narc but also can create a scapegoat instead who later goes on to encounter more narcs. Going towards the familiar and a life of abuse until the pattern is broken.
Pretty cool. You should know that while Joker is dancing on the stairs - the music used is a bit from The Timelords - Doctorin' the Tardis... So it suggests timetravel? Which is a fantasy. So - the joker is probably just a figment of his own imagination.
@@heavyspoilers absolutely bring it to life make it epic. Warner bros has shown they can make Great DC movies & a twist like that would just bring a whole new level of darkness to the story that we haven't seen yet
@@morganaugust9086 To me that would mirror in the sense of how Ledger's Joker in TDK tells Batman that he doesn't want to kill him. He wouldn't know what to do without having Batman in his life. And that Batman completes him. Harley Quinn's animated series on DC's streaming service shows how obsessed Batman and Joker are. It's like they're "kin".
You missed 1 in the countdown. It is the shadow on the wall of a light/power pole as Joker is riding in the back of the cop car and the final count is when Arthur is standing on the car
The colors that the Joker wears are visisible in different key moment in the movie, for example his apartment walls, the subway lighting is yellow, the station lightning is red and the restroom where he dances is green, the hospital walls and the Bill Murray Show curtains also have the same colors
I think it was all made up. He takes countless head shots through out the film. They all reflect him bashing his head on the cell window. " We're through the looking glass here people ".
Some pretty big stretches in some of these references. Jerome Ave being a reference to the Joker in the Gotham T.V. show may have just been a coincidence as Jerome Ave in the Bronx runs right by the giant staircase where he walks/dances up and down throughout the movie so it would make sense that they would film other scenes in and around the area.
In the end I really do think he was just telling a story, his big joke to the therapist and the death to finish his story off is the only one in the room
So has anybody noticed that the notes on his mirror at the start. The negative space left is the rough shape of a cowl and the lights reflected are almost perfect batman eyes
About Arthur’s make up, actually it is an old joker clown face. In the Dark Knight, at the heist scene, Heath Ledger is wearing the mask. And it is the mask that the joker is also wearing in the 60’s serie with Adam West. John Wayne Gacy was arrested for the first time in 68. So unlikely that he was the original source of inspiration. BUT like JWG, Arthur does he clown representation for hospital kids, which might really be a reference, make up or not, cause Gacy is quite known in the killer clown club.
Eleven is also known as the ‘crazy number’ and 11:11 would be the time when angels could descend from heaven. But 11 being the crazy number would be a better explaination I guess
I'm almost certain it must have been mentioned somewhere along here in the comments, but: The same time on the clock was unintentionally according to the director, it was just a prop fixed to this specific time.
