I got access to Ramattra EARLY!! 

I honestly think the gameplay trailers just do a good job at making them LOOK broken or OP. I remember people saying the same things about kiriko’s ult and her protection suzu when her trailer came out. He just seems like yet another hero with a high skill ceiling.

@@boinico1998 well kiriko is still a bit broken

@@boinico1998 kiriko's ult is insanely good though, her suzu is also really good

@@hecc7906 her ult is good if your team is coordinated. Her suzu is also good but with a decent size cd and you need good judgment of when to use it. Not saying her kit is bad, her kit is amazing. Just saying she’s not an easy hero

I still think it’s better than being OP lol echo took like two years to nerf

I think the issue is people viewing it directly as AA. In reality it's more of a simple snare that limits mobility beyond just a regular slow. Place it on a Winston who went a little deep in your backline, and suddenly he can't leap back out again. Throw it on a Dva trying to fly back to high ground and you might suck her down before she can escape - same with Doomfist etc. To me it seems much more like a tool against enemies who hard commit deep in your territory with reliance on their mobility to get them out again if shit gets rough. So pull them down and keep them in their overextended position, and then go in with your punches to punish them while they're stuck - even if they throw personal barriers you'll punch straight through. Again Winston is the classic example here. To me Ramattra seems exceedingly anti-Winston in a lot of his kit (relative to the avg common Winston playstyles).

@@Real_MisterSir That’s how it will be used, but the trailer and description lead us to believe it was inherently designed for sucking people out of the sky, and it doesn’t really do that.

@@Real_MisterSir yeah and that to me is a issue. Winston imo should be a viable tank and not get insta killed the moment ramattra enters the playing field. We already have dva and reaper completely screwing him over. Whenever Winston is a decent pick then imo the game always feels way more fluid and enjoyable oh whatever role I play tbh. Also there is a very limited number of options you have as a tank to play anti air stuff other then diving the sole support that stays on the ground and gets peeled for. In lower elo' s phara echo+ mercy is just very unfun to play against as tank because you have the feeling you can't do anything of use.

anti-jump*, I think it will still be very useful. That and his punches going through people, probably a lot of damage to be had.

That's such a let down.

🤣🤣🤣

To be fair, the thumbnail was made after recording the video

@@JesusChrist-mh4ir Glad you were there for the making of this video to clear that up for us bro

@@samschanbacher I don't think he needed to be there... You have to have a video to upload before RU-vid lets you name it. Its really not that complicated to figure out my guy

@@shooflies You can upload pre-made custom thumbnails off your device my dude. Therefore you could easily make a thumbnail before a video. Regardless, it really aint that serious 😂this is literally lighthearted sarcasm dawg. People on RU-vid so quick to argue lmao

🤣🤣🤣he going off with the mouth

"You are safe with me!" \*shield immediately vanishes\*

It's mostly only for letting him to get close and switch to nemesis form. It's made to be niche for enemy to try to break it but to just reposition or wait it out

​@William Thomas

@@BenChan14 then I think it needs to have a shorter cd

Ah yes, my favorite regi form, Regiramattra

they'll remember to buff him next season

Which ramattra have that ability though? Is it the shiny one? Also, how can we get those ability besides wasting $30 to buy a shiny skin?

On god

@@kiplit9013 they didn’t even buff doom so don’t get ur hopes up.

He seems awesome for PVE. PVP on the other hand…😅

Why is that? It takes hours to beat this intimidating op character, then you unlock him to be playable, he's/she's mid lol

@@SilkyLew At risk of being whooshed and assuming you're genuinely asking, that's exactly why lol. The "boss when you unlock it" meme is like the character is normally a total badass, but when they become playable they turn into a baby with average damage capabilities at best

Yup after 55 levels

well, we have ramattra now! at tier 45 for free to play

because blizzard will keep finding new ways to rip us off for our shekels. theyve NEVER been able to balance heroes. this is nothing new.

No, only the marks and idiots were worried about skin prices. We don't buy skins anyway because we don't give blizzard money for half assed, money grabbing manipulation tactics or overpriced micro transactions. If the skins are more than .50-$1, they're overpriced.

Jeese what the fuck are you talking about

Same

Yeah it'd be more optimal unless you wipe the tank to just not ulty. At low ranks he'll still perform well but that says more about the people in those ranks than anything. All you have to do is take someone like Winston or rein to break Los.

I will say, hes fun af to play... as least subjectively for me

They should honestly just make a tank that has a passive where they take half damage when shot through enemy shields. It would allow them to break past the choke and create separation easier.

Yeah the trailers and dev commentary do a good job of overselling his potential. He looks insanely weak

Yea I realized that his cool downs are very long compared to other tanks like his shield cooldown is long as orisa’s gold form

He'll want a Lucio, too. Idk if lucio kiriko will be enough for him. He might want something brawlier, like Bap.

@@sophrosynes6392 To be fair, a balanced, but difficult character will look like trash initially. It's the characters that are immediately strong looking that are an issue.

@@sophrosynes6392 No, not really. I was saying under that video that he didn't seem as op as everyone was saying. I specifically pointed out that the shield had a super short duration, and that the E and Q both had low damage. All flats saw was "IT DOES DAMAGE??" and he shut off his brain and said it's op.

Exactly I would also make his punches go farther and that's about it

Fr it literally had less vertical range than orisa ult (which might be infinite idk)

@@toastiboi7618 me trying to junkrat mine out of her ult and dying

I thought the whole point of the ability was to shut down highly mobile characters. Instead it gets completely hard countered by those exact heroes/abilities

Jesus Christ, junkrat’s trap is annoying enough, that would be awful

Will still probably be better than doom right now

It's so much like Doom, he even feels nerfed like Doom.

what reworked doomfist

Blizzard: Finally, an excuse to buff Doomfist.

@@Cryomaniac2 They're implying that Ram is reworked Doom as a tongue-in-cheek joke.

Really neat idea. It also helps with him being kited really easily in his nemesis form with such short range.

Junker Queen too tbh. I swear they’re still play-testing this game in OW1

@@MeanAndPristine Junker Queen, the way she is right now, would actually make for a pretty well rounded off tank. She simply doesn’t have the HP, nor the self sustain, nor the utility to take all the main tank pressure by herself.

Bro you're so right

Exactly my thoughts

@@MB-ux9mejunker queen doesn’t have the right numbers, that is it. The hero design with better digits has proven to be really good

He really does, but it's sad becasue orsia is probably still going to be the mini boss tank.

@@garrettwilson3032spotted the bronze

I feel like they payed more attention to the sound design than the actual gameplay

His voice acting, like every other character, is monumentally great.

Yeah that level 10 boss when youre max level feel.

I played JQ in beta and she was absolutely on par with meta. They butchered her shout, her most powerful ability, then released Kiriko who directly counters JQ ult. Live JQ is a product of nerfs and unfavorable meta. Give her a few buffs like increased passive heal, more base health, or lower shout CD and she could end up better than Roadhog again.

They're going for that riot games marketing tactic. Have a character start nerfed and buff when a skin goes on sale.

Yeah, his design is SUPER cool, it’s just disappointing that it’ll be harder to play in this meh state of his strength

i think everyone collectively agreed weeks ago that his design is badass lol

If only design won us an overwatch match🥹😂

Same for doom. Atleast doom is actually good now

Style over substance

Maybe will be like sombra and they’ll remove the timer. Is what i hope

i mean they said from the start nemesis form is a cool down ability

@@carlosbaroni1158 That's the only condition that he's any good. That or they just pump him full of numbers.

There is also nothing tempo about him.

Hopefully they'll eventually rework em and let him freely swap between forms

Rein has to be in your face to hit you

What if that was it the entire time? What if they just made Ramattra a pub stomper so they don't have to fix Sojourn? Then they can use the excuse "Oh well he only does good in the lower ELOs, so he doesn't need fixing."

@@axolotl1777 And Ram's punches aren't exactly that long a range either. 10-12 meters isn't that far, as Sigma, Orisa, Roadhog, Zarya, Junker Queen, even DVa and Doom or Winton to an extent can out damage you by just existing outside of your damage range and pelting you with poke damage. Rein's strength (and weakness) comes from having to be right in your face. Its a double edged sword because the time it takes for him to get up in your face could've spent better diving or poking as another tank.

@@bazzfromthebackground3696 shit theory is shit

they put the dragons fury in the game

I think at least one of these buffs would be needed: - bigger vertical hitbox so you can actually suck in flying heroes - should last longer - cancel movement abilities Ofcourse not all of them but I think adding only one of these buffs would make it somewhat usuable. Its not the best ability at the moment.

@@iNSANELYSMART409 i genuinely think adding all of those is the correct idea. as is it's just a worse disrupter field

Jack of all traits, garbage at every one of them

lets see if he will be better than a master of one

Sounds like a voice line they should add for Zenyatta to say to him lol

Not even all trades, he has no movement abilities.

@@GruncleBud not often enough, it seems

smart ideas honestly but i don't have much faith in blizzard

I was thinking the same thing kind but the more damage you take the more range the punches have

I love this idea. Blizzard take notes!

Btw they don’t call it tempo tank for timing-tempo for temporary…

I was thinking maybe he took damage and then had increased attack speed to make up for lost time or something like that

So, Sombra 0.5

It sucks that all the new tanks seem to be getting the same treatment. It's like Blizzard doesn't understand the word brawler because these " brawlers " are all squishy as hell. Just make a Tank that can at least take a hit.

@@bazzfromthebackground3696 Uhm Roadhog, Orisa ?

@@thanhathotan hog isn't brawl

@@assmachina well the dude did said “Tank that can take hit” sooo

@@thanhathotan he's talking about new tanks lol

Well, zenyata levitates, so...

@@TheLuftpolsterfolie I don't think u understood my point.. I'm saying the animation looks a bit goofy

it looks pretty cool to me tho, how it disintegrates

Why would you limit him even more

@@joshford256 I'm trying to empower him by allowing him to be a tank more often instead of waiting for a cooldown you can be active and recharge it sooner.

@@i.r.weasel7042 if his shield had more uptime and his vortex were more useful, he could be a tank all the time too. I know it's a different idea entirely, but imo there shouldn't be a limit on swapping forms at all, or there should be a two way cooldown (meaning like 5 seconds to swap to and from either form). It's not as if either form is super strong atm, and allowing the ram player the flexibility to choose at all times would allow for much more creativity with the character

​@@joshford256 It would be like Shiek/Zelda in Mellee where you could flip back or forth whenever with no limit. Thats cool too, I thought that would be the concept, but they stuck it on a cooldown which I think is a huge mistake.

@@joshford256usually what happens with transformation characters is one form is objectively better so it just gets used more I like that they put the timer because it means they can buff his brawler form and you still can’t only use it

I agree. I do think they should nerf the shockwave damage just a *little* in that case tho

@@MB-ux9me That would defeat the purpose..it already does underwhelming damage

@@MB-ux9meNo it’s fine as the after-shock. Rammattra needs to have actual physical damage from the fist as well.

Soujorn was really bad on release but they buffed her so much and nerfed soldier to the ground

Being the new doom off rip isn't a good thing

Then they proceeded to make Sojourn break the game

Easier to nerf downwards than buff upwards correctly for nearly every competitive game. It's simple to see what makes a character strong rather than what makes one weak.

I agree. I'd rather him suck than be insanely busted on release. 1 Hero dominating the game (like you said, sojourn) makes it very frustrating and boring for players.

I think everyone forgets Orisa wasn't good on release she got buffed to be good. Ramatraa gameplay trailer didn't make him look good whatsoever since nobody was moving the entire time. Small shield that has to be placed on the ground, an ult that barely does damage or CC, and the fact that his block does literally nothing to benefit him should have been signs of a bad character.

That would make Vortex quite possibly the most brokenly OP ability in the game. Basically a mini EMP on cooldown.

they're probably too busy covering up another sexual assault charge and stealing breast milk

Your idea of vortex so they can't use movement abilities just sounds like sombra hack, but yeah hope he gets changed, doesn't even look fun to play

Yeah maybe my changes to vortex are a bit op. I just thought with how long the ability lasts (like 3 seconds or so), the cripple effect wouldn't be that bad. It would just make movement abilities be locked up, not all abilities like how Hack/EMP restricts you for a bit.

I don't agree with the first 2, but I completely agree with the third one. It would be so fun to have the freedom to switch forms at will

I like the idea but it would still suffer with the fact it's actually drag is weak If it doesn't pull much then it doesn't matter where you put it if it doesn't do much you could put it on the moon and it still wouldn't do anything

@@sebastianrodriguez8992 Yeah, if the pull was stronger, even if just at the start, then ye. Guess we'll just have to wait to see how they work on him

@@jxgxvxm The pull works sometimes but another issue is it's too short It needs to be taller and wider for it to really matter and I think it should have something similar to a Sombra hack but just for movement So if you get grabbed by it you can't use movement for like 2 seconds

or over pits so you could try to get environmental kills

@@sebastianrodriguez8992 True, I wonder uf you can combo it with Mei wall to get that extra height, break the eall, and have the vortex still stay, but thats a lot of work

... away from objective, while the other 8 players try to play the game. The Ramattra that manages to convince their kiriko to come and help him loses the match.

Ramattra rule number 1: Ignore the enemy Ramattra out of respect.

ORAORAORAORAORAORAORA!!!!!!! MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA!!!!!!!!

So true as a silver 5 that shit gonna be annoying as 2 ramatras stare at each-other basically its gonna be 2 tiktok moiras fighting each-other with support healing

@@Death_father lmao…

And remove the time limit and cool down from nemesis form

@@olofacosta3192 time limit yes, but after reverting it should enter cd since once you activate it you get more hp and armor.

@@olofacosta3192 Or just pause the timer when blocking and see how that goes with the other buffs. Then the block wouldn't be such a debuff. If its still not enough, maybe blocking would actually refill the timer slowly.

3. Less shield health faster cooldown? Kinda like they did to sig

@@okami1272 fair enough

i think its fine. numbers aside which needs a little oomph, if you gave it something too powerful, then we will be back at OW1 all over again, in which disables are found in normal skill. sure it starts slow with only ramattra having it, but it could begin a downward spiral towards mass cc again being prevalent and made a necessity for future release of heroes. they went out of their way to remove brig cree and mei's cc afterall.

@@rhesapratama4194 I don't think we have to worry about 'mass CC' when it's only relegated to one hero on each team (tanks). The problem is non-Tank characters still have a lot of CC.

They probably want to avoid it being 'pay to win' if you can't win with the character you have to pay for it can't be pay to win.

@@rhesapratama4194 yes they removed the CC from those heroes because they’re not tanks. They want the CC to be almost exclusively on tanks. Which is a very good thing.

@@rhesapratama4194 Literally that tank looks horrible to play, looks like your abilities have absolutely no affect on the enemy team. What harm is a small damage aoe that stops people abusing their high amounts of movement? I mean its a lob, so youll have to use it close up anyway. There are still CC in the game, they just removed ones that werent fun to play against, like for example rein pin is CC and yet no one hates it...other than maybe the rein player trying to pin. Hog has hook still, orisa has her spin and spear, junker has her knife, junk rat has his trap. People dont hate CC, they hated when a character can run at you, continuously slowing you until youre frozen and then die, or when a dps who relies on CC and aim to kill you, which he can in 2 shots, can flashbang in an aoe around walls, they were horrible to play against and tanks are the ones that need CC, not DPS, and supports can have it for some utility, but only went not paired with other insane abilities, cough cough ana nade/sleep dart. So what you said was just wrong, just because they said they wanted less CC doesnt mean they specifically removed those 3 because of it.

Where à rein would be better

As if people needed even more reason to play the same two supports every game

Reinhardt is better lmao

Yeah like Wei said, at that point you'd just play rein in that case. But we're already seeing how badly Rein is being outshined by zarya, winston, hog, etc. Literally 0 reason to pick this tank if Lucio + Kiriko are meta.

Honestly don't know what they're gonna do about Kiriko. Quite literally every hero benefits greatly from her ult. It's like everyone on your team, including you, have nano boost that lasts way longer, so why wouldn't you pick her? Her cleanse is also kinda crazy, but I think it'll be more balanced out if they can figure out what to do about that ult of hers. If it remains the same the entire games life, I can guarantee we will never see a meta without her

See this is my problem with these reviews. A lot of said reviews on RU-vid are from higher rank players. The fact of the matter is overwatch is a completely different game between the lower ranks and higher ranks so reviews from higher ranked players really aren’t going to pertain to 70-80% of the player base 🤷🏼‍♂️

Bro huge nemesis hit box, blocking slows you down, you’ll get kited so easily

Reaper literally eats 90% of the tank roster anyway, so this guy shouldn't be too much trouble for him in the slightest

@@valentinus3658 He punches 8 meters which is the range of a Reinhardt hammer and wraith form to prevent damage and make reaper move faster and he has reaping which is every time Reaper deals damage Reaper gains hp. This is all if Ramattra is new so it's gonna to take time to see what counters him or not like I said this is an if.

They may as well have not released him bc he's gonna be like Junkerqueen. He won't like ever get played, and if he does get played, the team running him loses

@@masift1494 junker queen is a bad hero, ramattra isnt bad hes just not Strong

Ram being weak also serves to not encourage buying him as much

@@quezmiz736 Elaborate

@@quezmiz736 she's really fun and I did pretty well with her at first, but most of the other tanks are just better for that role. She's like another dps

Well, he was once an Omnic monk, much like Zen. But he dropped the harmony to go full on discord.

smart way to reuse animations

give him the kick

@@joshuamason2227 That's not how animating works, the rig is completely different to where you wouldn't be able to reuse most of it.

@@joshuamason2227 lmao it’s literally a lore thing, it’s not that easy to reuse animations like that bro

Hog is annoying af. But me and my buddy play Doom and Kiriko and he becomes rather useless at that point. Obviously this is all pending teamwork and/or having some friends to play with. And even then he's still obnoxious as all hell.

Go bastion and melt hog. No more hog pick

I don't mind hog but I'm a zen main lol

As an ana main I love seeing hog in 4 outa 5 of my games lol

@@Syn4TheWin when I play hog I just wait for the sleep dart to come out then what lol

And then get rolled because his primary goes through rein's shield

@@exzyyd392 it does 60 damage per punch and Rein has armor, he'll probably just end up making up for the pin damage and then lose the 1v1 in a vacuum. Everything else outside a vacuum depends on team comp and execution.

@@exzyyd392 ez fix charge him off a cliff lmao

@@exzyyd392 there's no way ram wins a 1v1 with rein, the og comment is talking about canceling ram's ult. So he has 3 seconds to use primary because shield blocks the aoe of it.

yeah it really feels kinda useless as it is now

Should work like sym wall and just go up forever in its radius

@@shirokun002 Agreed, but Mercy and Echo still being able to escape is just embarrassing. Maybe if it slowed time, not for cooldowns but for movement. Kinda sick of the basic "locked movement ability" balance they keep putting on CC areas. Make it like Kiriko's ult, but backwards, smaller, and for a shorter duration.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a situation where a character has come out and thought “wow hogs gonna have trouble against them”

@@justintolley9403 soljorn 💀

@@justintolley9403 Ana and Sombra come to mind

I think the scenario isn't tied to lower elos but more like when you ult and then a dva bomb lands in your face. Lol.

Good DVa bombs could force it, for example, but most smarter players will track that ULT and play around it.

Also when enemies are running away from the ult range and you don't have any chance to catch up to them so you can just cancel your ult, to gain attack range from his omnic form and do some damage.

I think thats the issue - trying to fuse to different characters together. When it's done 'right' you get Sojourn who is greater than the sum of its parts (Soldier & Widow) and when done wrong, you get a character that falls short all around like Ramattra.

He has to be worse than both for him to be balanced. If he is even on par with either of them, he will just be a better version of them because then you can essentially pick sigma and still get the benefits of rein or vice versa.

Same

I totally thought it'd be a shift like old Bastion, and it honestly doesn't seem strong enough to be on a timer.

I thought the same thing. I was kinda disappointed when I heard it only lasted 8 seconds. They should make it infinite.

@@masift1494 then they would have to make a complete revamp on the ultimate

They said a long time ago that the nemesis form wasn't infinite.

Yeah 50% reduction kind of feels like a waste of time

i agree with the free form switching

Maybe they try to market him as “poke” form and “brawl” form where the latter dives in and finishes off low enemies, which doesn’t quite work

Yeah there’s no point in having a timer on Nemesis form if it’s so weak.

That or put it on a resource meter for his form. An 8 second form that's doesn't get you the same kind of potential as what Bastion can do in that time is... odd. And his defense is quite odd. Fortify, Zarya bubble, Hammond's overhealth, Dva defense matrix, Winton bubble, Sigma shield, and kinda Doom's defensive moves enable you to survive and do more during their duration, but this defense functions like Reinhardts shield, and it's only capable of defending yourself, and you get no use out of it other than you personally surviving, since you can't do anything during its use. While Rein shied is more purely for himself these days, you can still get use of it for your team as well. Ramatra's defense doesn't realistically have any team utility, doesn't offer him any benefit other than taking less damage, gets no reward for using it, and isn't allowed to do anything during its use. It's an utterly bizarre design for Overwatch. Do they expect it to be some kind of Bastion counter where we just willfully eat his turret and negate eachother during their 8 second forms? There just doesn't seem to be any utility for this ability at all... unlike his barrier, though it has quite the short duration. Not being able to use movement abilities within the vortex kinda just makes it a Zarya vortex, and much more readily available. I think locking out movement abilities should probably only apply to Mercy, Pharah, and Echo. Would make him more explicitly anti air, and not just a Zarya clone ability. The height for the ability should be up to the skybox though... accurately landing it is already wonky enough against a flying target (especially the higher they are), and having the chance of it be ineffective because it just isn't tall enough is absurd. In its current state, it's really only useful for popping it during your Nemesis form so you can more reliably hit targets (which they did show in his trailer), especially when grouped together for piercing damage. It's anti-air utility is ultimately not reliable, to the degree that it literally won't get used for that purpose. It may as well be as effective as trying to land shots against a Pharah as Kiriko, and the devs trying to tell you that she was design to reliably do that.

I have trouble even understanding what the ability in its current form would even be good for lol. Like good for lucio? Maybe junk if he tries to mine away? And its damage is non threatening it might as well not deal any

@@AzureShrikeI guess the damage is to stop supports healing in it? It is very low

Pretty sure that's what we all thought it'd be lmao

@@Barely_Edited Bap i guess to since his only mobility is his jump. But like why is the vertical cone so short lol. Pharah has to be nearly on the ground anyway

@@AzureShrike let's be real, if you manage to catch a pharah that low to the ground, then that pharah probably isn't a problem to your team lol

Definitely feeling the love with the multiple non-skippable ads ❤

@@kakashihatake4180 You do realize that Flats content creators don't decide how many or how long the ads on their content are that'd done by RU-vid?

@@kakashihatake4180 I didn't get a single ad all video, idk wtf you're watching

@@cxwr5859 You might have ad block cuz I had 6 so far.

@@darkcircle899 Wdym? Content creators do have some control over the amount of ads in their videos.

maybe the aesthetic theyre going for is like a boat shape? like the next support will move zen to the right corner w no one below him lol

@@brianq2558 That's how it was before Kiriko was available. Same positioning in the hero gallery as well.

@@PanTF and in beta 1 with the tanks before jq was added

It's specifically designed that way because the research proves that. Blizzard is actually genius for doing this. (c) unironically, at least one forum user

ok

Weird never been first like or comment before

Same

Ain't never. So you have clicked on a video so fast?

@@skaionex you’re making my brain hurt lol

I disagree about focusing on just one form. I think it would take away from the identity of switching between two forms with their own uses, if one form was distinctly more powerful. I do think nemesis form should be more powerful because it is close range, but there should still be merits to staying in the first form.

It goes against the design of the character

@@godlyvex5543 remove the cool down and actually have ramattra switch consistently between forms depending on if he's long or close range

I agree w/ the two people who say it might go against his character, but I think then the focus would be playing into the vortex. Make it taller (or infinite vertical height/till it hits ceiling or skybox), make it STRONGER, that way he has a solid, core feature that's available in BOTH forms. That way you can use it to aid your other abilities: keep people in range to pummel them at close range and block damage to truly Brawl Tank, keep people still/low so you can more easily poke them and control space at range. It's a really interesting idea and it plays really well into the idea of a tank who does their job by truly Taking and Controlling Space, and beyond that, it's up to him to decide whether punishing people up close or at range is better for every instance. Similarly, since you can use it in any form, you can use it pre-ult to, again, keep people in range and make it easier to keep it online.

@@thecuriocabinet Under another comment I mentioned that maybe the E should root, and prevent usage of movement abilities. I also agree it should be infinitely tall. But if it does recieve those changes it probably shouldn't last longer. Alternatively, you could make it slightly larger horizontally, and make it last longer, which would focus more on the slowing aspect rather than the grounding aspect, and would make it harder to escape by just using your movement ability. I think one of those changes would make the E feel more useful.

From the initial trailer it looked like it was gonna be this way from the visuals they should have honestly reverted his initial nerf at least he would be better than some tanks.

He loses the fight against Rein swinging his hammer. Due to his lack of health, speed, and damage with his punches. The only Rein holding shield against Ramatraa is a bronze rein. He also just gets pinned by Rein and loses even harder.

#archeops pokemon

I love this. It would make him a true “tempo” character, like Lucio switching his AoE heal/speed

Yeah, just what you want, your tank to get knocked out of his big tank form when you need it the most.

@@SuzakuX I think that’s the point tho, you have to manage that cooldown well so that you won’t get knocked out of your brawl form. It’s like giving ur tank nano for some heal value mid-fight rather than at the beginning of a fight.

@@SuzakuXyeah especially when they just got an ult, it seems ramattras ult doesnt do that much damage anyways so its fine, it seems like his ult it used when someone else in the team uses their ult but couldnt finish off the enemy with it so it can drain the remaining health continuously

You can also just walk out. Flats was pointing out that the stated purpose of the "restrict movement" ability just isn't restricting much at all. I'm curious if Pharah could concussion blast sideways out of it too.

You don’t have to waste an ability at all. If you don’t need to use the ability, just walk out. If you do need to use the ability, then Ravenous Vortex does nothing to prevent you from doing so.

Alternatively, you can just stay in the ability. It does less damage than a Lucio boop. Who cares?

That’s probably what it was intended to be. They simply decided that they didn’t want to release another disaster like sojourn and decided to release him a little nerfed and see where he’s at

It should keep the damage AND slow more

@@Yorkshire42069 that would be too strong, attacks from (your teammates + force field damage + yourself) might be too strong. That’s why improving the slow effect and making it a larger radius would be decently balanced and make the hero more viable.

@@Yorkshire42069 what do you think?

@@TheRealDentry what you described there would be good too

Honestly I feel like if it’s gonna be effective it should just silence movement abilities altogether, his arabic already have enough trouble dealing with fast targets, if he has no way to shut them down then what’s the point of the ability

@@afifkhan6151 exactly. I thought the whole point of it was to counter to mobile characters. But those exact characters literally hard counter the ability. What is this bullshit blizzard?

"It should deal 50 damage when a movement ability is activated" Tracer: *sweats nervously*

I think that would help, however, I believe they probably didn't add that because then the vortex becomes rather similar to a grav. Sure, you can still slowly walk out of it then (or try to) unlike in grav where you can't, but I believe it would make people rather easy targets in vortex and the ability a very powerful tool for easy kills. That's my guess why they didn't release it that way. But something should be changed, the way it's now it really isn't impressive at all.

Should be like a veigar cage from league where if they run into the edge and try to leave they get stunned. However the worse weakness is probably the vertical part which would be hard to fix unless it locks you to the ground.