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Thatguyonyoutube I mean I wouldn’t call a $500 difference “basically the same price” but to each there own I guess. Plus the 9900X would be better compared to a threadripper, not ryzen 9.
TypicalSnipes are you trying to say that you don’t want intel to actually compete against amd, you are dumb as fuck then. Competition can only be good for us because prices for both should go down, so and amd fan myself i absolutly love when intel brings something better for a better price, it just doesn’t happen often enough and i wish it had. There is no reason to buy from a company if a different one offers something better, so i’m sorry but you’re the fanboy here
If anyone wants a summary of the popularity of PC gaming in 2019, a video about AMD CPUs hit RU-vid's trending list. Just let that sink in for a moment.
I've never thought about this till now.... Holy shit. A literal Linus tech tips video.... ABOUT GAMING ** HARDWARE ** in a non "troll" style video is on RU-vid trending. 3 years ago you would never see that... Not even every once in a while. PCMR!
Straight up dropped to the comments to see if anyone noticed it. He got a new catch phrase. Lol last time he said it was by accident now I think after being tolled he has decided to embrace his new lingo. He cool in my book. I like when people make new words. And most of all able to move past people being rude or grammatically correct.
Intel: those Ryzen 6 core/12 thread cpu's match the performance of our i7 flagship?!... yeah were still going to sell it for double the price though......
Linuxx I’m tired of tech you tubers shitting on amd just because intel preforms better, EVEN THOUGH, they will double the price for like a 17% performance difference.
@@ree2398 I highly doubt that. Unless intel drops the prices of their CPU's, I'm pretty sure AMD's going to dominate 2019 and 2020. My xeon e3-1230v2 is getting old and I'm pretty sure my next build is going to have an AMD CPU. Haven't decided on the GPU though.
2019 is an interesting year so far - AMD is proving itself to be a serious competitor to Intel and NVIDIA - Pure Linux phones are becoming a thing - Tim Cook is starting to realize that he needs to start paying attention to the Mac line more - Microsoft is being friendly with Open Source
Amd fucks intel now yes. But Amd is still not a serious competitor to nvidia. Linux phone was already a thing years ago. Tim cook still did a bad job. Microsoft has been friendly to opensource for a few years now.
Dude same. I started with the P3 many moons ago, and switched to AMD a few weeks ago. Obviously its a non issue for nerds, and not that big of a deal, but man, the difference between my i7 8700k and my new Ryzen is very noticeable. Happy man
First time i have hade spam lots of it and its all made me feel good inside 11pm Sunday night Australian time my phone and ipad went nuts youtube and emails it was awesome lol
its not exactly apples to apples... the architecture of one can be optimized to work fine with 16mb and use it more effectively.... granted yes it does look funny hahahaa
@@Jasontvnd9 LOL, no. 4 cores from Intel cost about the same as 4 from AMD(i5 9300h vs ryzen 7 3750h) while being a little faster even at stock, and if we undervolt the i5(which is not possible on mobile Ryzen) it'll be noticeably faster. But for people who need more performance in laptops without compromising battery life Intel offers amazing 6 and 8 core CPU-s.
DO IT BRO DO IT JUST DO IT. SUPPORT TEAM RED. AMD NEEDS TO DEFINITELY FUCK INTEL THIS TIME. I FUCKING WILL BUY AN RYZEN7 4000 AND INVEST IN THE AMD STOCKS. UNTIL THAT FUCKING BITCH CALLED INTEL DIES.
10 years ago: Intel: Improve the IPC, double thread counts. AMD: mOrE cOrEs This Year: Intel: uP tHe PrIcEs aNd ReMoVe ThE hYpErThReAd AMD: Shrink process, tighten up the IPC, and MORE CORES!
my 1060 still runs perfectly with my 2700x tho and my friends 6700k still works amazingly. stop being an amd fanboy and understand each manufacturer has their pros and cons. Amd has always been cheaper with close performance, and intel and nvidia are knows to be hassle free, and generally more powerful, although you pay a premium for the ease of access and power
@@zacharyy7803 Right now, Intel doesn't have any benefit over AMD. Until Intel innovates, AMD is the better choice right now. How is Intel more powerful than Ryzen 3rd gen?
Lee Ham as a ryzen owner i know that intel has better gaming performance. it’s only by 10/15 frames but it’s still an advantage. i never claimed the gap was large
Intel: Well, we arent getting 10 nm done this year, but AMD will probably delay Zen 2 and Navi because they are a smaller company than Nvidia or us. AMD: I am about to release what some people might call a "pro gamer" move.
Only took them 5+ years to finally get back into the game. People complain about intel/nvidias business practices(and rightly so), but amd is partial to blame. Intel/nvidia, for gaming, has had little to no competition at the high end for years. And still amd is barely getting there on the cpu side. Still no where near close on the gpu side. Im rooting for amd to make a major comback and put pressure on intel/nvidia again. We alm win then.
@@cinialvespow1054 ah, lack of proper communication here. I'm speaking specifically of gaming, as i have little to no intensive work on my personal pc. In the gaming, intel/nvidia own the high end performance market. AMD clearly owns the multicore workload market and I would say they own the mid range to budget gaming products. I specifically want amd to start putting pressure on nvidia in the high performance gaming market again. Then nvidia moght cut out their bs if they have some competition in that sector.
@@volo1826 AMD for the mid range market? na i would have to say right now in gaming amd deffinitley has the high end market with the 5700xt and ryzen 3600. now if your talking the elite performance nothing but 4k gaming and you want to blow a bunch of money for small performance gain intel has that and nvidia. budget, mid and high end amd has all that by a long shot. and work loads for rendering or game design intel shouldnt even be an option. infact intel shouldnt be an option for anything amd no matter what you do cpu wise should be your choice. nvidia tho yes they have my vote if you have the cash to blow there a different story but intel? pass....
AMD is doing APU's you know that ? not intel and not Nvidia can do a good APU like AMD is doing. Everyone is looking ag "wow Nvidia / intel products cost that much they must be better and have more money, and dont see that AMD get money for every console that was called ps4/xbox one/xbox 360 and that is alot. It is cool that AMD have the power to fight back because my I7 is boring when i see that AMD have the better performance per price now in CPU's like they have in GPU's
Linus @6:24: "[...] but let us know, if you'd like to see a follow-up on performance at different memory speeds." Me: "I want to let you know that I'd like to see a follow-up on performance at different memory speeds."
There have been tons of videos for the Ryzen 1000 and 2000 series with that exact topic (I think even from Linus himself). I'm sure one can expect similiar performance increases with Ryzen 3000, as it's still the same architecture.
for anyone watching this in 2021.. This CPU is still overkill. I multitask on two external monitors exporting 4K videos all day while simultaneously running Adobe programs and other heavy programs and it barely flinches. I'm staying well below the 30% CPU usage mark.
A budget cpu will never be a fair comparison to a premium cpu. Because as soon as you use a pc like most people do, with multiple programs running in the background, and a bunch of tabs, it will fall short. A more fair comparison would be a ryzen 9 and i9.
Couldn't agree more! Overall compute power is so important to many people out there including myself. Don't forget about all that execution time from the kernel and all of the user space processes that come standard with many OSes. The Linux kernel is fully multithreaded!
I was originally planning on going for ryzen 5 3600 + a cooling fan, but after I look at how good ryzen 7 3700x fans are I'd just go for it lmao. It would cost the same for me to buy a ryzen 5 3600 + third party cpu and a ryzen 7 3700x. Heil amd
@Andrew Alfazy Yep, I don't care about the sound. The temps, as long as it's on a safe range. Turns out I will still buy a separate cooler for it though, since the case I'm eye'ing is better designed for liquid cooling.
@Andrew Alfazy 4.3 OC with wraith prism is no joke, and Intel has never offered a fan that's capable of even a minor OC so what the hell was your point?
@@lordzeuscannon6400 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DBQ1RUeV_oo.html It's decent, you are kidding yourself if you believe intel's stock is better
Yup. Greedy bastards. I had a skylake non k, went out and bought the z170 because you could over clock baseclock with amazing results. My 6700 was as good as any 6700k on benchmarks at 4.4. Later intel patches their “mistake” and now it’s a pain in the ass to get my processor to be the same as it was years ago. I bought a ryzen 3600 now, intel lost my money for a long time. Hopefully for ever and they asked for this.
I worked with Lisa Su when she was an engineer for AMD and I was IBM and now she is the AMD CEO. AMD will eventually become the number 1 in processors overall. Extremely smart and a hell of a good leader. Look her up, she brought AMD back from the brink of bankruptcy and has a number of patents such as SOI (silicon on insulator) that revolutionized the chip industry reducing power consumption and AMD will just keep getting better and become the market leader.
@@Code-n-Flame It doesn't matter, if Intel kept innovating AMD would've never been able to catch up, which means better products for us. Do you like slow CPUs or something?
Both companies have been stagnant for years.. They've realized that there's more money in training customers to settle for incremental increases in performance. That way they don't have to spend so much r&d to keep up with Moore's law.. They trickle out garbage products and blame "the end of Moore's law" when in reality, they're just milking the market.. Why spend billions on a new node size if it's going to be obsolete in two years time? Why not sell that same node size for 5-6 years and make back more on that investment? ..This is what these companies are doing and this is why we haven't seen 10nm desktop chips yet from Intel.. They are squeezing every last drop out of coffee lake.. Capitalism is a double edged sword, at times it can hold back progress..
DEATH TO INTEL! FIRST 12 CORE CPU FOR JUST 500 EUROS! BUT WILL KEEP MY RYZEN 7 1700 GTX 970 G1 GAMING 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KIL RIP JAWS DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS!
Pokemon is accepted socially YuGiOh is getting popular again Digimon is back Alot of 90's Disney movies being (re)made AMD is very competitive against Intel Did we time travel? Edit- HOW COULD I FORGET TAMAGATCHI‽ THEY'RE BACK TOO! Edit 2- There's way too much to list of what's back from the 90's to mid 2000's.
@@c4li Digimon Tri is the old gang back in both a series and a few movies. They've already put out like 5 or 6 movies from the show now I think. It started just a few years ago. Definitely worth a watch.
@@Varillah Im happy for you and i know how it feels because i did the same and it arrives today. Goodbye 8700k, cant see me returning to Intel any time soon either.
They don't have too much market share to gain from Intel. The big bucks come from the server side and will be a long road before many make a switch. I'd expect a large gain but nothing like when Ryzen first appeared.
Only that "real work" usually does not mean streaming and editing for the vast majority of people today. "If you are 12 and want to be the next Ninja, buy Ryzen 3". Or if you like a good value proposition :)
@@jesselioce Name some use cases where average PC users would make use of more threads than 12, or even 8. "Work" means Office and Browsers, not Cinebench. Single threaded performance is still king for the majority of users. Intel does that better. You buy AMD because it is better value, not because it actually performs better in every day use. I have watched the reviews of many of the major tech channels and the benches quite clearly show that AMD is only better in lab conditions (bench tools) or when editing (presumably also streaming down the line in 2 years or so).
@@HugTheSub Name one game or program that uses only 1 thread still... Intel chips are getting more frames technically speaking in some games but that's based on frequency being higher. That's literally all Intel has going for them and that is going away very soon once zombie load and spectre safeguards ruin your dinner. Intel: "our cpus are super hackable... But maaan are they faster than amd......at being hacked".
Well there had been a certain amount of speculation about AMD years ago. But. what saved them was the game consoles. Intel has always seemingly walked around with it's nose in the air.
I never could do that , my Fx shock is holding me back from buying any AMD products for years. But i wish that your AMd 3900X will work as good as every Intel CPU could have worked, or better!
Well, i always aim for the best product my money can buy, sometimes that means i have to ignore my grudge. Surely the 9900k is a good cpu but with all the issues Intel caused they are just as bad.
Over the last few years AMD has really pissed me off with their Bulldozer launch, their lousy ass Radeon drivers, and lack of proper machine-learning support. Supporting competition is great, but being a fan of just doesn't make sense. Given the chance, AMD would be no different than Intel I bet -- it's not going to lower its prices unless it needs to. I really am hyped for the 3950X though, as a 16-core part at that price range is fantastic; even the 3900X is a good choice. That said, if it wasn't for its compatibility with Intel's AVX2 optimizations it would still be as much of a paperweight to me as my Radeon W9100 32GB card is now. AMD has REALLY been focused on its CPU hardware division, starving its GPU division and totally ignoring its software teams. It needed to do this as it doesn't have the resources of Nvidia and Intel to take on projects like those, and this focus has paid off, but AMD is still riding on the coattails of Nvidia and Intel in many ways. It's hilarious painful that CUDA isn't compatible with AMD's GPU chips though, a place AMD isn't able to get a free ride from, but somehow it turned the tables on Nvidia in terms of GSync at least. Nvidia blew a billion dollars on that I hear, and AMD hacked out an open-specification to undermine it for pennies on the dollar. We will see how AMD manages to attack ray tracing in the future tho, something virtually no reviewer mentioned in today's RX reviews.
@@steve_seguin It's been over a decade now that Radeon drivers perform better and more stable than nvidia's drivers. 2000s called and they want their joke back mate.
AMD beat Intel to the Ghz mark, 5Ghz mark, 64 bit processing, and WOULD have ruined them with opterons as well, but Intel decided to threaten Dell into only using Intel by informing them that "if they used a single opteron they'd yank every XEON they gave them." Between that threat, and their antitrust measures taken during the Athlon 64 days AMD fought Intel back and forth for nearly two decades to not only prevent them from being able to pull those kinds of stunts again, but also pay them what they were owed for their borrowed technology that fueled the Pentium 4's. Tack that onto the FACT that Nvidia's CEO: Jensen Huang's Cousin, Dr. Lisa Su is the new face of AMD for some time now and THAT is why AMD is starting to really change from the inside out, while retaining their "best bang for buck" past time.
ziljin ryzen has always been behind but not by a wide margin to its intel counterpart what really made it stand out is that it was cheaper by up too 100 dollars in some cases. So there was still a noticeable gap in terms of power and performance but Ryzen 3 makes that gap almost non existent. Add in better drivers that are coming soon and that gap may grow in AMD favor.
Ryzen 1 just put AMD on the map. Though it was pretty good leap forward from their FX series, it was still no match for Intel in raw performance. Like Linus said, It was basically something only poor people considered until now.
@@segenmann english I do not speak it apparently....was supposed to say "you're not going to go for what costs less"...idk where those words went but definitely not in that sentence
I couldn't believe it, but I bought a Ryzen 3700x and now have to wait for it to arrive. I never thought I would go back to team red, but you can't deny the beast that is Zen2
its good because you dont have to swap motherboards every year when a new generation comes out for the same type of socket but maybe next year am5 will come out for ddr 5 then we wait for 5th gen so prices come down
Check out the real power draw figures, the reputable sites do power measuring to in their reviews. AMD has a monster line up with these CPU's but power consumption seems a bit off.
@@DixonSwe game's nexus showed that an overclocked R9 3900X pulled 170watts on its own, compared to the i9's 270+, I think we have a new space heater, x3
Well still it's 750$ tho and I doubt it makes thaaat much sense. I mean it will defenitly suck for gaming and productivity is great, but... I mean.. Save 200$ and go with the 3900X..
This is a short term win for AMD. Their new Ryzen processors consume a lot of power and Intel's new leaked Comet Lake 10-core processor to be released will put Intel back on top.
@@samueljin7266, I really do hope so. Then AMD has to step up even a bit further. After which Intel has to come up with something better... And all the while the prices will go down. That's 6 x-mases put together for us consumers.
@@samueljin7266 Even if they do it will be well massively overpriced, and then when we get Ryzen 4000, which will probably be around a 10% improvement on the 3000, and we can start all over again.
I came home from work earlier to a dead motherboard, been needing to upgrade and managed to get a combo on the 3700x with a basic cooler and microatx board an hour later for $320 and can’t complain. Definitely gotta upgrade the board when I have some more cash tho
Whether you're a Ryzen or Intel fan, everyone should be happy about this. Now Intel will have to some how change it's process, which includes better processors as well as possibly lowering their price. Competition is good for consumers
@@sirmustardofhousemayonnais9907 I commented this before watching the last part, but also it can never be stressed enough, how much competition is important for consumers, this applies for everything. Yet you still have these hard core I'll only buy intel stuff and its way better and stuff like that. One competition is the Apple vs Android
