I HATE 13 Reasons Why (Season 3) 

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Tragedy exploitation milking is epic

Hey man, seeing you posting your good old IHE video's really makes me happy. I can't wait to see it! Keep up the good work and your video's always put a smile on my face :)

Kura Does Things in the next season bryce's grave is struck by lightning, and when it is his consciousness leaks into the minds of millions in the nearby area, leading to a mass hive mind force. The characters are quickly chased out of town, towards the nearby lake area where they must deal with the apocalyptic society they now inhabit. Eventually they befriend a wise fisherman, and he shares his final catch before the outbreak: the gun stash the kids had hid in the lake. The next 4 episodes is them taking back the town and saving the world I wrote that as a joke but I would totally watch that despite not watching a single episode so far

The Sith killed Bryce to kick off the Clone Wars

@@Hadarouken Bryce was the Emperor, and he faked his own death for the sake of changing his identity.

Dubious Deliquite Reminds me of the fifth Friday the 13th movie where Jason gets resurrected by a lightning strike

Begun, the Bryce Wars have...

Or a road trip. Space road trip.

They could bring Bryce back as a zombie

The one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism!

13 Reasons Why We’re Going to Space. That would definitely be more enjoyable than what they went with.

Sounds like Fast and Furious franchise.

Right? They basically made her omnipotent but they couldn't even explain how

But y/n can be likable and the plot on wattpad is readable

_fo.oli. sh_ huh?

@@elefk34 Agreed. Ive read a couple fanfictions where Y/n is simply a support character instead of a M/G ary Sue or y/n has their own problems to deal with and has their own seperate story line

but but the show said she's very observant.

Pretty Little Liar vibes

Oi

I wouldn't be surprised if this happen.

Season 5: hannah actually raped brice

From the Book of Hannah, remember that

Omg this is the best way I've seen her described ever

literally shes so random like she just appeared out of nowhere in season 3

I heard about her and I’m like... canon Mary Sue???

I don’t like her

@@coconoot_ they mean the characters in the show like her

that's an insult to riverdale

Riverdale takes a murder mystery plot, takes multiple hallucinogens, and then starts writing. That show goes freaking everywhere, from a board game drug cult to brainwashing churches. In other words, Riverdale is interesting.

Don't do that Riverdale like that compare them to this garbage and river days just entitled to 2 time because if you want to waste your time fucking staring at the wall because staring at a wall for 30-minutes makes as much sense as that showed us Riverdale and 13 reasons why I am speaking about.

Chaoz 73 badly written and clumsy =\= interesting

Riverdale is an actual dumpsterfire but at least you get some masochistic pleasure in cringing at every scene. 13 reasons is just kinda bland in comparison, and way too edgy.

@Animefan764 I love that this comment implies that Charles Manson DID have a mom.

I've always wanted to shoot my mom with paintballs. I wouldn't call it a "fight", though...

@DIAMOND ACE I believe its from Pokemon, not the anime though

spaghetti . jpeg I love that this comment implies that Charles Manson existed.

@DIAMOND ACE its hilda from pokemon B/W

They have fake hair for TV that looks very natural so I doubt it lol

Yeah and his 12 years old son and wife were missing him at home

His actor is about 26 in real life, but even in Season 1, he DID NOT look like a teenager! 😂🤣

Frank West yeah I never knew the actor had a receding hairline until I watched this video

@@trinaq none of the characters look like teenagers

That would, honest to god, be a better movie than this shit.

Clay could be Bruce U. SUPPA KICKA

HUNTER X HUNTER SUCKS plez dont kill me I'm kidding

THE MAN IS KILLING US MAN

Tyler is actually a Tiger Mafia sleeper agent.

Underrated comment

Oh god no

I don’t understand this comment. Would someone be so kind as to explain?

Marcus Chang It’s a play on a quote from the show.

Seth Belfort No I’m not

Yeah, at least season 1 ATTEMPTED talking about mental illness, even if it did it horribly.

Right it seems like they choose which people to help seemingly at random. They decided to forgive Tyler for literally trying to shoot up a school but didn't forgive Bryce for raping girls. Obviously, neither should be forgiven and both should receive the punishment they deserve, but they didn't do that and decided that Tyler did nothing wrong and he was just a poor troubled boy. They(the writers) even made Zach seem like the asshole for wanting to turn Tyler in, even though that is the completely sensible choice.

richhobo1216 With Tyler they wanted to highlight that if schools actually stopped bullies instead of punishing the ones who are bullied and actually implement a good mental health system at the schools things like school Shoo*ings could be prevented. They also wanted to show how just being a friendly person towards those in need you can actually make a huge positive impact on them.

Kshatriya Right and it also pushed the message that you should try to talk down school shooters, endangering not only your life but the whole school.

@@kshatriya1414 yes, showing that being friendly to other can have a positive impact is a good message; but did they really had to do that with a school shooter? I mean, if Tyler was at the point to shoot the entire school and didn't plan to make it alive, he doesn't only need friends friend, but a profesional therapist. The idea that mental illness can be cured by teenagers is a bit dangerous.

He was a human bean

@@jd1800 He was a human been

Be Hitler: Vegan Loves dogs An artist No smoking & drinking What is not to love about him?

@@lonelystar2706 Yeah, he totally didn't do anything heinous like be responsible for the deaths of millions or anything.

@@kodymcbride6901 Details

THANK. YOU. They see one scene where he’s disrespected and they go: moNtY x wIlSToN mOnTY X wIsToN! Like....one sad scene doesn’t make him a good person. It really doesn’t.

Still, his arc was ended so shitty that I really was mad that he had to die. Like, just leave him in prison, why the fuck does he have to die?

It fascinates me how some groups of people can be so starved for characters like them that they will leech onto the first character they see that is remotely like them, ignoring awful things they do just because they get representation. I'm a huge LGBT supporter, but there is a very fine line between "This character is what I am therefore I shall stan" and "This character shares something in common with me, but I won't support them because they raped a guy with a broomstick."

Yeah, the only people that genuinely like this show for what it is are dumbass teenagers.

YES the whole “he’s like this because he’s gay “ arc is terrible

Yes

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Absolute Anarchy Productions I get that a lot

PLEASE

I'm not sure why I watched it, but I did, and it's ridiculous. Plot threads just seem to dropped and consequences are so mild you have to wonder why they bother with the melodrama.

I'm sad it's the last season kind of. With 13 reasons why, you get an IHE video and a YMS commentary. Both of which are happening for season 4.

Who could have it in their heart to hate it though, it's hilarious

theres a season 4 ?

@M S Doesnt seem like a compliment. Ted Bundy was VERY charismatic - to the point that there are still women out there who wanna be with him, despite what he'd done. Idk what else to call that but charisma.

Omari Ramsey Those women are clear he got the chair about 30 years ago right?

Played by a dude in his 30's

@M S I think you can also see that people see Ted as charismatic aswell by Zac Efron being cast as an accurate depiction of him

@@georgeferrett1799 pretty sure they are. Ted Bundy has a fanclub/cult type following of women who think he was hot and they conduct tours anywhere that has anything to do with him. Theres a full doc about it

@@Brocolli_Pizza They kind of forgot about the mental illness

NOT TO WORRY, DEAR VIEWER! The final season's main story is Clay going to therapy and the therapist is Lt. Dan himself, Gary Sinise. I wish I was kidding. They are actually going to find a way to ruin the concept of going to therapy and getting help for your mental health problems.

Final episode clay wakes up, looks at the pills on his bedside cabinet, smiles it was just a dream but it’s not over, he smile fades remembering the party last night he gets out of bed. Cut to clay busting out his houses then cut to clay running into Hannah’s house bursts into Hannah’s bathroom there she is with the razor bear her arm, she looks at him through tear filled eyes. Clay takes her hand and whispers “I’ll never leave you again” Run by Snow patrol starts playing in the background Hannah’s parents start clapping from outside the bathroom door and slowly are joined by the other characters, they begin to kiss slowly the door closes in the final shot is the door ‘The End?” The title reads.

Sir Bobo lol😂😂 that’s mad crazy

@@adamboh393 The image of the entire class crowding in the bathroom to watch a naked Hannah and a dopey Clay make out while clapping like it was the final game of the team's star player before retirement is amazing.

Well... the first one is true, though.

You're 99.9% right. This show does not know what to teach teens, but... I'd have to disagree with two points: while yes, people who commit heinous acts *deserve* to not be redeemed, but the sad almost depressing fact of life is... even the most horrible people on this earth are still people, and they should be treated with as much professional help as possible. On that note: the school shooter scene: I will say, going up to a school shooter and talking to him while he has a gun in hand ready to shoot you is a dumb idea, but again, maybe that could work. I'm saying you should do it, don't do it, but maybe, just maybe talking to him and listening to his problems could work. By that I mean it could also end horribly. Those are just people, and I wish this series handled the issue of mental health way more properly.

@@frightening_volleyball1231 Seeking professional help isn't the same thing as implying that those people are entitled to any form of forgiveness or reintegration into their former community.

Wuh oh we already got some homies who entirely missed the point of #9. I know damn well if someone I knew went up to a rapist and started treating them as kindly as their granny I would never interact with that person again, lmao

#10 couldn’t be more accurate

Without Hannah none of this would have happened

Fijiivibes And yet the show tried to continue without her.

Shayla Nash I think they wanted the show to be about the aftermath of her killing herself. Like how her death caused a domino effect and changed everything. I don’t think they wanted the whole show to be about her

Fijiivibes Well, to be brutally honest, this would never happen in real life even if 13 tapes were distributed to people who wronged the victim. The show makes it sound like suicide is a form of revenge (which it is not). And the way they treated Hannah’s motivation to kill herself is unrealistic too. Constantly the show says that bullying and peer pressure is the problem but it’s not just that. Mental health and family life are much more important for a child’s psyche.

@@zachbetz6326 she killed herself after being raped, not exactly a stretch

For real?

doremi fa nah. But clay does go insane (kinda)

LMAO I WISH

Real human bean.

Wow

Who killed Hannibal? (is this meme dead?)

Who killed Captain Morgan?

from my understanding the main culprit (bryce) a serial abuser, got away with it and the main simp (clay) wants him to be held accountable... and after that... well yeah nothing makes any fucking sense i'm sure a good amount of 13 year olds legit think it's incredibly profound and groundbreaking tho, cause no one else is immature enough to NOT see through this disastrous pile of shit

Seriously, the foundation of the show was a joke. So she had the time to record the tapes, get them to post office and stuff but could not even try standing up for herself? And that's what they want me to pity? Sympathise with? Even the quietest girls I've seen turn into an absolute beast after a point of time.

@@YaroLord A 13 year old who is seriously mentally ill probably won't like it. In fact, it'll probably make their condition much worse.

Yaro They would probably stop after at least one of the seriously graphic scenes the show puts you through

@@anonme_ She didn't give them to the post office lol. Clearly you haven't seen the show

So true lol. Season 4 is still like that? I didn't dare to watch because of how the ending of season 3 upsets me.

Woah woah Bryce deserved it he literally raped mad people why are people trying to give him any type Of leeway

@@nanalove3819 Season 4 was pointlessly chaotic. Writers had no idea where to go next so they just threw a bunch of random stuff in. They barely even addressed what happened last season.

"Killed a man" - Killed a violent rapist "Framed someone else" - Framed an even worse and much more violent rapist. If you want to say that's still wrong, that's understandable. But don't say it as if it were two honest innocent "human beings".

@@ufazig They were both human beings, and it is still wrong. There's a reason vigilante justice is illegal and you can't just go around killing people because they're bad or you think they're bad.

everyone in the show is a trope, Bryce is EEEEEEVIL! but StIll A hUMaN BeiNG! the school shooter is a quiet kid, the Hispanic guy is an illegal immigrant because Hollywood doesn't believe in legal immigration, the obnoxious Tumblr stereotype girl looks and acts just like said stereotype, and she wears only t-shirts with rainbows because the writers hate subtlety, the old MC is just white guy for people to project themselves into, and the new MC is POC self insert from some fanfic.

@@ginogatash4030 omg I love this comment. 😆

@@ginogatash4030 The Hispanic guy turning out to be an illegal because he looks Hispanic is kinda racist itself lol

@@TheSalamanderMenace4 That's not what racism is lmao Still makes it pretty edgy, lazy writing, enforcing stereotypes, etc.

I think “gay homophobe” could make for an interesting movie idea.

If you want a good commentary on mental health just watch BoJack horseman

Daniel shore was a great show, but now it’s gone and everything is horrible now

@@danielshore1457 It was the most depressing show I've ever seen. That's why I loved it so much.

@@danielshore1457 didn’t that show also call Bojack out for trying to blame his terrible behaviour on all the terrible things that happened in his past?

CMG The Person what does that mean? Hitler was A hUmAn BeInG. Jack the Ripper was A hUmAn BeInG. John wayne gacy Was A hUmAn BeInG

Hitler slaughtered tons of people? He’s still a human being! I mean, he killed Hitler after all!

you forgot that someone recorded, and another one edited this.

Human bean*

White Male Privilege strikes again.

I actually would have no problem with it, my opinion is very controversial

@@fos1451 you spelled "dangerous" wrong.

I would pay to watch someone try and give Osama Bin Laden a fucking _redemption arc._

@@zekedia2223 sounds like a good movie

freedom of speech I think redemption is a bad idea. But a movie about their psychology would be good.

If the Zoophile is conflated to be a Furry, I swear to god...

@@jakespacepiratee3740 13 Reasons Why writers: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!

A character comes out as a furry

Hell,kill two birds with one stone by screwing the already dead horse they're beating.

@@sketchyjulia If they treat it like the mental sickness it is I'm fine with it

Tony has insane anger management issues and constantly acts out in very physical and damaging ways. Every character is so over-the-top flawed they just become caricatures of every stereotype ever.

Instead of being interesting characters who've gone through serious shit they're all just one note and defined by a single personality trait. Instead of being people who bad things happened to those bad things are all there is to them.

Exactly, there’s nothing mild, like “oh they just party every now and then and like to smoke a bit” instead its “oh they go to school fried and party till they blackout”

Yknow id say that at least a lot of the characters started out as normal but flawed people, and then they became so messed up because of the situation involving the people around them such as Hannah and Bryce etc

Sounds like it's got EastEnders syndrome

Comparing these characters to Grand Theft Auto protagonists is an insult to GTA protagonists

Gta 6 has to have better cheat codes. The ones in 5 were better than 4 but still kinda lackluster. Invincible for 5 minutes? Drunk mode? Where's the cheat that makes all pedestrians dress like Elvis?

@@Dalton_Boardman2000 agreed. Still no money cheats tho😔

That would be hilarious.

It ends with season 4.

@@DrGregoryHouseIT how do you feel about that

Gave me an evil laugh

More like: 13 seasons?? Why????

I liked season 2. Its existence made sense: it was the trial following the crimes committed in season 1. I don't think season 3 was necessary at all but these characters are so popular Netflix didn't want to let them go. Instead of having a whole new season of 13 episodes, season 3 could've been an hour-long epilogue showing us the characters' lives after the trial. Did we need another 13 episodes? No.

I'm one of the few to admit Season 1 was so good and actually had something to say. After that, it just became the melodramatic, edgy nonsense everyone claimed it was from the beginning.

I think so too! Season 3 was so unnecessary

It was superficial garbage from the start, it portrayed people with mental problems as melodramatic egoists who wallow in their despair so lovingly, they create a podcast about it. Its "messages" prompted numerous mental health experts to warn the public of how harmful it was, and that backlash is the only reason they started adding those mental heath PSAs later on. That show is a slap in the face of anyone who actually struggled with mental health.

yes! this! i stopped watching when they announce they will have a second season

that bit was kinda epic ngl

It was in Clay's mind. I think it's just his homo-erotic thoughts honestly. He would do "anything" for Justin. Can't even blame him being more interested in men, considering his past girlfriends...

@@unluckygamer692 The dude is a total nutcase

Over aged writers who know the series is over.

Lmao true

I love dynasty bc they know its stupid and thats the point. I hate when shows like this think theyre so fake deep. (Also Elizabeth gillies)

@@sugarycitrus8247 dynasty is dramatic and amazing, they don’t exist for any serious reasons, just pure entertainment, as long as someone makes sense it can be enjoyable even if it’s silly at times 🤷‍♀️

Put it in simple words i cant be bothered reading that. Actually ill copy paste it into google translate and audio voice it.

I'd go one further and say that the writers on this shitheap of a show seem to think that they're writing episodes of Dallas that deal with "serious real world issues" in "an adult manner"that will generate huge ratings and really make people think when what they're really writing an ABC After School Special level program that no one with an ounce of intelligence takes seriously.

You can see the writers know nothing about the subjects they're covering.

Ya Boi - Don’t put the blame on Pearl.

Dont put your blame on Gary

*Some people got the real problems* *Some people out of luck* *Some people think I can solve them* *Lord heavens above* *I'm only human after all*

Maybe I’m Patrick

GameB Awesome 6:21 _human_

Amit Sunil spoiler: it was Ronald McDonald

Amit Sunil Spoiler: it was Severus Snape

Carole Baskins did it

Spoiler: It was Venom

It was Obama

He covnereted to Islam just before he did it! We can't judge his new culture.

dlollolb NTA

Hes a human being!

@@inspectorjavert8443 what is wrong with you

Bryce secretly brought the coronavirus to New York. Still, he's a human BEAN.

Since he and the writers forgot about the pills he was supposed to take in season 1.

Exactly

Hannah's really alive and keeps trying to get through to Clay but he's stuck in a delusion in his own mind where she killed herself, everyone on the football team's a rapist and school shootings keep happening.

It would make sense

I mean. Sort of lol

At least Riverdale is hilariously bad and not insulting like 13 Reasons Why

@@randomguy6679 but it is still an intentional garbage show which it's sad

@@forsaken-pr5iz oh, I don't think it was intentional 😂

Riverdale did the murder mystery story MUCH better. Season one with "Who killed Jason Blossom?" was extremely intriguing and quite a twisty and outrageous story that was put together quite well. I loved the first season of Riverdale (minus the hot for teacher side plot). I fully agree with your assessment.

@@veanng I agree with that. Which is why it seems like they were trying to go for something similar except with a very unlikable character. With jason we start off not knowing what kind of person he is and have the blanks filled in

I couldn't get through to the end of the third season it was that bad. Who did they frame for it?

@@rhiannontomlinson9350 monty

I know! Besides! They made Alex pretty much absolutely unlikeable this season, so i actually wanted him to go to jail

Rhiannon Kate I agree. But I am also thinking of season 4. Maybe he will get arrested? Or his dad will go suspicious and find something in his room? I have no idea, but I agree that ending was terrible. 😊

Lunyfuzzball118 his dad isn’t going to do shit because he got rid of evidence. They eluded that his father figured out that Alex did it but agreed to accept the story that Monty did it so his son wouldn’t go to prison.

His people needed him

Thought this said Norm McDonald LOL WHY ME

MONTY’S DEAD!!!!! *laughs*

He was a human being 🥺🤮

Are you referring to Monty as in Oum?

It doesn't really give any opinions at all.

📠 Fr tho, they "start a conversation" and by doing that make the character's do stupid and awful things but still have them be... Protagonists? 🤦🏿‍♂️👎🏿

Jay Asher is a hack

They're just trying to be controversial. In season 3 they also covered abortion, immigration, repressed homosexuality etc. I'm sure Season 4 will cover any remaining sociopolitical issues.

Charles Calthrop season 4 is out, you are correct

That's pretty gay tbh

@@hapcot good to see i'm not the only one who thought that

I read that in Leary’s voice

@@thedevilgoose2482 laq

13 Reasons Wiki: Jack the Ripper Enemies: Mary Ann Nichols (murdered) Annie Chapman (murdered) *[click to show 3 more]*

@@sherlocksmuuug6692 do one for hitler

Imagine raping someone and considering them your enemy.

@@shineayandrews1869 I mean they would be if they blabbed about it. (Remember context)

Megan maybe the wiki is saying his victims see him as their enemy

True

alex should get an award, he killed a sociopath who raped 10? 20 girls?

@Princess Samara i think getting handcuffed and raping teenage girls are incredibly different, but i think we can both agree theyre all horrible characters

Too bad they need the Hands Off SJW shit nobody asked for

*human beans

@@nicktaylor1864 heinz beanz

B E A N

*Killer Bean would like to know your location*

@@Nai-qk4vp holy shit we've cracked the code...

That would be preferable

I agree with you there.

I bet if this show tried to portray Autism, they'd make the common mistake of displaying it like a disease.

Chaoz 73 ugh I don’t even want to think about them attempting to portray Autism 😑

@@chaoz7370 nah they already unintentionally did that with clays character

@Slender Man no shit...the show is meh

Season 1 wasn't that bad to me, season 2 answered alot of questions I didn't have and season 3 was just kinda dumb

@Slender Man worse than season 2? Why do you Think that? Season 2 was the worst season I've seen in a tv-series tbh but season 1 was atleast good and if it would have followed the book more it would have been a nice show.

season 1 was absolute garbage tho. Only got to episode 10, and I tried really hard to not get bored.

@@BrenturoX ngl, that sounds quite biased.

Then they find out they're all little Hitlers in their own way and the show goes on to romanticise genocide (you know what I'm talking about). Actually, they'll probably read our comments and get ideas.

clay commits war crimes

hitler had a sadder back story then bryce cmon guys he's *OnLy HuMaN* its time to forgive and forget

Plot twist in season 5 : it was Wanda all along.

Even better, they go back in time and kill millions of people to draw out Hilter. Plot twist: they were Hitler all along.

Great characters, should be role models for teenagers. And teenagers should really get the message ☺

Leo Andersson - Agree with this _so_ much. ☺️☺️☺️👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

I mean... It’s Bryce...

Sweet Hysteria How could you honestly still say that ? Jess & Alex are murders who need to be put away .

@@sweethysteria8737 yeah, it's Bryce, but if i killed fucking Hitler i'd still feel remorse ngl even though he's conisdered the most evil man ever

Damn thats a fantastic idea

No means no- KJ

I’d rather watch that show than this horrible show

Don’t be too hard on Mort, he’s just a....wtf is he?

@@thestaroftheshow Can't believe that show has a lower rating on IMDb. :(

I like to move it move it

But they clearly only included Justin’s sexual assault to make him not be a total asshole for letting Jessica get raped

I like to move it!

Throw every controversial hot topic on the wall and see what sticks

@Al X. Andra no one said that that was an excuse for him but that they never dived deeper with that story arc .

I mean one of the local high schools in my area has a bit of a gang and drug problem but damn it isn't like this It's like Crimes for Babies or Crime Jr., not... murder.

We had overdoses, suicides, literal pedophile teachers and gang violence at my old high school so it does exist. But definitely not to the show's extent at least. Mine's probably a rare case lol.

Someone was murdered at my high school. There was a bit of gang violence since it was an inner city school, but besides the stabbings it was pretty normal.

Ruby oh-

Ruby im sorry..

Honestly, IHE basically dropped the persona years ago. I don't even know why he still calls this channel "I Hate Everything," considering his tone of voice has been mellow as fuck for years.

Catfight Animations YourMovieSucks could fall onto that list too

How about Yahtzee from the Escapists?

@@miro.georgiev97 Because I think that's the nuanced perspective on hatred that we need, it's a normal human emotion, not the downfall of mankind.

@@antoniodiavolo eh, there are times where he blatantly refuses to admit that he's in the wrong. The whole Kimba Vs. Liong King thing being his most recent one.

Good analysis, but I wouldn't call it "horrible people are still people". That one seems more to have more to do with compassion or not "sinking to their level", whereas the argument you describe is more in line with moral determinism, where people are believed to have no choice in the kind of person they'll become, resulting in them just being a product of circumstance.

@TrolleyXLakers __ You bring an interesting point. People usually take the circumstances approach only in trauma, as if bad experiences automatically make you a bad person (which is an obvious strawman), but in reality, circumstances affect you in many different ways, they teach you lessons and instruct you in the way you act.

Winged Mirage This is a bad point. Yes, most people who come from bad families don’t become rapists. But that doesn’t make environment any less of a factor. You’ll see what I mean if I use smoking as an analogy. Most people who smoke cigarettes don’t get cancer but that doesn’t mean smoking doesn’t cause cancer. It just means that there are other genetic and environmental factors that determine whether or not the smoking will cause cancer in that specific person. First of all it’s important to note that “bad family” is an extremely broad category. Not all bad families are the same. A household with a father who molests the children is different from one where the parents are drug addicts which is different from one where your older siblings are gang members, etc... These are all “bad families” but each will influence the kids differently. So saying that you know someone who came from a bad family but didn’t become a bad person doesn’t tell us anything because every “bad family” is different. Next, people respond differently to similar environments. Why is this? Part of it is genetics and part of it is itself more environment. Someone who’s genetically more resilient will deal with abuse better than someone who isn’t. For an environmental example someone who is getting abused at home but has good friends has a better chance than someone who is getting abused at home and has no friends. And this doesn’t just apply to people who end up bad. This is also for people who end up good. Good people are just as much products of their environment as bad people. And for the people who were raised in bad environments but turned out good, there will be other factors that explain why despite having some bad influences they were still able to overcome it. An easy example is maybe you grew up in a shitty home with shitty parents and a shit education but you had a sister who cared about you a lot and was a role model and looking up to her allowed you to overcome the other bad influences. It’s a combination of different factors. I think if two people had the same genetics and exactly the same environment and life experiences, they would end up exactly the same.

It also gives genuinely awful people ammunition to use against others. "Look, it's not MY fault, my mommy beat me/I was molested/I missed the ice cream man that one time!" Sad fact is, some people are just inherently no matter how good a home life they had.

Agreed! Especially in fiction, when a character acts, they should ideally earn either reward or punishment. Having a bad guy, who is never convincingly redeemed, never be punished, and have the narrative treat him in a rewarding manner? That’s really frustrating for an audience. We want people to be held accountable for the good or the pain the inflict on others. It’s just bad writing

Please. I need more Danganronpa.

The mastermind would be Clay being manipulated by Hannah's ghost.

I wonder what the executions would be like 👀

Oh I Wish

Danganronpa: V13 trigger happy Hannah

He actually is surprisingly

He had me right up to that emotional scene where he cries doing yoga with his mom. The acting was really bad during that scene it looked like he was laughing 😂

You know you are a good actor when if a fan of the show sees you and punches you in the face for raping Hannah and Jessica. Kinda like now every time I watch a movie with John Lithgow, I immediately scream out, “You son of a bitch! You killed Rita!”

It hasn’t happened but I know if I saw him I would have that urge the first second. Played the role really well lol

He's so good that he somehow made me like Bryce in season 3

Even worst 'romanticizing the serial rapist'

The message of "serial rapists are people too 😔😔😔" is gonna be a yikes from me, Todd

@@TwighlightLugia It can be done well but the show did it in the worst way possible

Y

*romanticizing the actual criminal

As a joke, I assume.

I'd rather see Suicide Squad for the rest of my life,if this deletes 13RW from the world

Complicated characters like that "dAmAgEd" Joker

Lmao. I was searching for someone to comment on this.

Because the characters were complicated. You domt have to like the movie, but the characters themselves were good

He doesn't care about the channel anymore.

Federico Cortés ?

@@TheFd97 ?

Federico Cortés ?

@@TheFd97 Don't tear your hamstrings with that massive leap in logic you've just taken.

They are gonna get kids killed because they will feel bad for awful people Tyler about to shoot up a school gets forgiven and doesn’t even get caught right? Even if it was a close friend they going to the police what’s to stop them from getting angry again and killing you? But no they aid murder and stuff because feelings. Not everything can be solved with a sorry and hug dumb tv shows

oh my god this show...hew

Well, it's good he feels bad. No one should be proud of what he did. But he should not force the others to forgive him.

After all…. He is a hUmAn BeAnnnn

To be fair Riverdale dosen't pretend it's important

Riverdale, at the very least, knows what it is. This show still thinks it's important.

This makes Riverdale look like Glee.

Athena Jaxon it tried to act like it was important for the 1st season, failed, and moved all that _importantness_ into the voice of woke character Veronica

SRS Art Productions the Asian guy from 13RW just can’t catch a break with these dumb teen dramas

More like fighting demons and their sins when all they have to do repent. Give there life to God and be delivered.

@@jelicianorwood24 "Give there life..." What?

@@jelicianorwood24 I dig it

@@jelicianorwood24 this girl gets it

@@budakbaongsiah It's propaganda

One would be like “u need a hand” 😂

yeah ur weird

hey buddy i think you got the wrong door the leather club is two blocks down

"Don't tell me you are thinking about Hanna"

Whats funny is that the actor who plays Justin is gay lmao

legit in season 4 clay gets into a car crash and then they just move on. like, no injuries, no consequences, no repurcussions -

@@rdsim0424 What the hell

69 likes nice

@@BigBossMan538 Yeah they walk it off like they have Wolverine's healing factor or something.

It's funny because clay crashes a car

Go to sleep

Pickled IRick no.

1am in Cali tho...

Ikr

It’s 4:20 am where I live and I have school tomorrow.

I'm glad I'm not alone

Feel lucky

Me neither, now they're just needlessly dragging it out!

well season 3 was in august of last year so yeah, but there is another season planned

The season he's talking about was last year. Why is he just talking about it?

When and about what?

@@КатяГарь it was when he was explaining to Justin why his search history it so dark. He explained it as "I have to kill of characters." It was when he was a suspect for. Bryce's murder

Seriously season 3 is just so so dumb.. Like, this dialog.. “A: Hey, B..! You tell me what you were doing on this date, and where were you on that day..?! B: How about you tell me what you’re doing and where were you on this date instead? A: It’s none of your business...” This dialog reoccurs again and again and again.. You could put any character on A and B (except for Bryce) and I’m sure there’s a scene about it..

@@HafidzMurshidie let’s not forget that neither character has a (legal) hobby. No one plays video games or picks up any books. All they do is do drugs, fight each other, screwin each other‘s brains out, and lying.

that's the most normal part of the entire show

Might be too high brow for the target demographic

I feel like I should know that name. Oh wait, Metropolis!

@@ChristianNeihart And "M"

I only got that reference because I studied that movie in my german class lmao, good stuff

Fyodor Dostoevsky: Hold my vodka

@Tum Tum even if it is Suicide squad at least tried with the characters 13RW doesn't

You know it's sad when the motley crew of serial killers and career criminals is more likeable and sympathetic than a bunch of depressed teens.

C VR I thought it was interesting and maybe I was the only one but I kind of thought the point was that he wasn’t redeemable no matter how much you could try to make him with his story and him being “sorry” that he was just a terrible terrible person and his anger at Zach and his the world won’t let me change we’re just proof that he didn’t get it that he thought he was entitled to redemption if he just followed the right steps but failed to see that no one “deserves” redemption you don’t earn it it has to be given like throughout all the humanising scenes there we these bits where he would reveal how entitled he was and that he could never truly be sorry or be better because he thought he deserved to be forgiven I don’t know maybe it’s just me who saw that

I’d say, if this was season 2 and not 3, it would’ve been a lot more palatable. It wouldn’t have been great, but his struggles and humanising moments would’ve been more tolerable if we hadn’t been treated to 2 seasons of him being an over the top super villain beforehand. It’s kind of too-little-too-late in both scenarios, but if he was super villain in season 1, humanised and killed in season 2, that’s more tolerable bc it means that from the start of the narrative opening up, we see other sides of him.

It would’ve been like the Simpsons episode *Who Shot Mr. Burns?*

A hUmaN beAn

is it really rotting if it's never been fresh tho?

@@ginogatash4030 I guess it's like rotten McDonalds. It's not meant for human consumption even when fresh, but it can still always get worse.

@@ScorpionViper1001 as bad for you ad MC Donalds is at least it is edible and pretty tasty.

This is not Ok as a teen drama either. It's indulgent garbage designed to stroke the ego of mentally ill people. In some sense this is objectively evil

I personally think this show is good, but only because I view it as a teen drama; that is to say PURELY a piece of entertainment and NOT some sort of educational piece that is supposed to start conversations. The writers and cast members are making absolute fools of themselves by implying that it is anything but that. To me, it seems like they wanted to continue to ride the popularity of the show by making more seasons, but the only way they could continue the story was to turn it into Riverdale. So they turned the show into a drama, but they couldn't just drop the whole "conversation starter" aspect of Season 1 (because that would be a really bad look--it would show that they really don't give a shit about the issues they talk about and are really just in it for the money), so they continued to pretend like this show was some sort of ground-breaking message, even though there are no true life lessons to be found throughout Seasons 2 or 3. Again, I find the show entertaining and I'm excited for Season 4. But I will never ever claim that 13 Reasons Why is educational or that it has made some positive impact on the world.

@@Senumunu Tbf what teen drama isn't? It isn't like 90210 or Twilight were particularly known for its good characters.

@@twister1154 none of these "teen dramas" have this kind of messaging abut real life issues. no one cares about the shitty characters either way.

Teenage dramas as a genre is just pure shit like always so it won't make it that much enjoyable (except for unstable emotionally teenagers mostly girls, depressed edgy 4chan boys on her 20s and people who loves things such as Twilight, 50 shades, Riverdale, Sabrina, Teen Wolf, etc)

It’s not like they don’t deserve it

lmfao they fuckin ruin Clay's character in season 4. It's quite the mystery why he hasn't been jailed.

I feel they wasted him as an actor.

same. I feel like Dylan Minnette had more to give as an actor but the writers gave him an awful plot

Also doesn't stop people from trying, lol

Send this comment to the people who made 13 reasons why right now

"He's a person!" is literally the lowest bar you could possibly set. Yeah, he is. Not like he had any choice in that. But you know what he did have a choice in? Not raping 8 women, physically attacking other people, and lying in court.

What if Hitler cured cancer?

The Noob Y’see, I doubt Hitler could have a medical license or be non-murdered after the shit he did

and that's quite generous... season 1 should be more than enough they sorta end it with a cliffhanger but really, there is nothing more to watch, season 1 is enough

lol, funny how i only watched episode 1 and had concluded this season would suck. After episode 1 i went straight to the last episode...

I've seen nobody like her, including people who hate, love, or just review the show. How do you write a character that terribly?

Yes

@@AGJ117 Make them appear the fuck out of nowhere and suddenly revolve everything around them.

@@klg9549 ah yes...there's a name for characters like that: M A R Y S U E

It Just Works true

Or for characters like the main Gillian in the incredibles or loki in marvel where they were truly pushed to become what they did because it's very human and has a lesson underlining it

Also that can work in a series that are more nuance and complex like Breaking Bad and HBO The Wire. But with 13RW, it sets in high school and the series already established on their "suicide and rape are bad". So for them to switch to this "rapists have a redeeming sides" just adds another layer of stupidity and insult.

Thing is, he’s NOT a monster, he’s a person who chose to do bad things. Being a monster implies he couldn’t help it, but he could.

Well Bojack actually had an ending. It wasn’t really cancelled.

@@calebbradford7906 It was cancelled, but Netflix warned the creators early enough for them to wrap up the show. Ideally, each character's arc would have gone on until an eighth season

@@dipdop9734 I miss Bojack so much

Netflix: "We'll put out whatever insulting fucked up schlock you want, but don't you DARE EVEN THINK of unionising!"

Thvelivan Can also have to do with the costs difference between animation and live film. Sadly it’s just cheaper and more profitable as a company to produce drama instead of animation.

TheGhost And it’s actually responsible for an increase in suicides.

@@theghost9808 i think in the show Hanna was the one who fucked up the most and then blamed everyone except her

@@Dantee985 I'd say 50/50. She was a really difficult person to help, but that the fact that her classmates were stupid jerks made matters worse.

@@theghost9808 actually doesn't

Frosted Whiteshirt Are you sure about that?

That's the thing I had forgotten about with Tyler and the rest of the crew. They've essentially disliked him since season one, when they learned he was a stalker and took the photo of Hannah & Courtney (going so far as to omit him from the pact several of them made to keep Clay from finding out about Bryce raping Hannah via the tapes). Then, in season two, most of them don't even give a second glance to Tyler after he testifies in court about the goings-on at the school and he's almost forced into making new friends (cue the stereotypical punk rock-loving anarchist kids with an axe to grind about the establishment).

@@WykydJester yeah then the punk guys left him too after some tension happened with the leader's sister and then they really just left him as a third wheel. Didn't they?

so true... They hated him because he stalked Hannah (though the hided Bryce's rape because Hannah may have lied... this logic). Then they never seem to like him, they think he was weird; only Alex cared about him ad saw him as a friend. But now he had felt trauma, so... everyone loves him? What???? That's the main problem with the show : it implies that you are only likeable if you go through trauma (even Bryce, hiss redemption arc began because he get bullied, which implies that trauma will make you a better person... what?).

@@nanalove3819 for Bryce, I would try to help him from the start. Also I think everything is wrong with the show

@@nanalove3819 The only reason they lied about Bryce was basically because they were friends with Justin and they were protecting themselves

Topaz Stars it sounds like an anime line. Just... very out of place in this.

Just A Crab yeah

@@topazstars7734 what ur thoughts on this show overall

Exactly, it's a great line, but the show can't just have writing like that for one moment and then go on to do melodramatic teenage bullshit for the rest of it, if it expects anyone to take it seriously.

It's a line that's so good, I almost feel like it's plagiarized.

Bro do u hate season 3 or all the seasons?

@@mronion597 all of them. the first one was terrible, but at least i can say it was its own self-contained story. until of course they dragged it on to get more money. three was definitely the most boring, though

@@MB-sf2wd I don't disagree it's such a bad show

@@MB-sf2wd I agree with your point about Zach. He's the ONLY person in S3 that suggested calling the cops on Tyler for almost columbining them all. Then Clay has the nerve to say "how dare you Zach, this is what you wanted to do all along"

Riverdale's about ten times worse than 13 Reasons

this so much... season 1 was controversial enough, and although full of flaws it was decent and entertaining to watch it's gotten preachy and takes itself way too seriously... cringe

Let’s go back in time and stop this

@It's your Friendly Step bro stop corona too!

Should've been a limited series tbh

Yeah, when I first heard of this I thought it would literally be 13 episodes, each explaining why. But no, 39 episodes and 3 seasons. Bruh

Sky High was more realistic

@@Saiaxs facts

This

Which video is this quote from?

@@stonefree7973 it was first said in his "Top 11 Worst Things I've Ever Reviewed" video, in which he refers to an episode of Family Guy called, The Life of Brian. Just recently, he said the quote again in his latest video, "Top 10 worst Cartoons of the 2010s part 2" towards the end where he's talking about his number one pick, Family Guy, and references by episode again.

@@michaelamaya9032 are you telling me that man hated on family guy?

@@pascalceee Mostly just Brian, and the "lessons" that Family Guy tries to teach. As an actual comedy show he thinks it's fine.

There are someone that hated him because of this show? I guess people don't really make sense

@DarkSusanoo007 I think most of the attack is just a troll, but well..... It's still bad

Only idiots hate actors for the characters they portray It does happen but only people who can’t tell fact from fiction

O’Reily Auto Parts I don’t get it..

@@sesereddead465 Hot fuzz reference I think

Say sike right now that they're doing a 4th season

@Classified Information that would be so funny

Fortunately, the fourth season will be its last, but I don't know how they'll stretch out a plot for a final season! 🙄

@@trinaq It'll all be a delusion created by Clay when they reveal he had a psychotic break after Hannah's suicide - the "it was all a dream" cliché, but with the added sting of misrepresenting mental illness one last time.

@@mothsforeyes Yes and then theres a plot twist: Clay stalked Hannah all the time, he WAS for her all the time. including the typical "obsessed friend" cliché.