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I HATE Osprey! But This Pack Changed My Mind 

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@MyLifeOutdoors
@MyLifeOutdoors 10 месяцев назад
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@robinsonfriday
@robinsonfriday 11 месяцев назад
" I'm not a fan of osprey packs; "I just don't believe that backpacks needs all these pockets, zippers and straps", but i really like this model, except , it lacks zippers and straps ! Hard to please.....
@komicsreviewer8505
@komicsreviewer8505 12 дней назад
Typical woman.
@edolson4186
@edolson4186 Год назад
I commented on one of your other videos but this should have been the one to comment on. I own this pack and love it. One signifcant modification, however, makes it much better if not perfect. My inspiration is the Gregory Focal 55. On that pack side compression straps may be routed hidden/inside the stretchy side pockets allowing compression at same time giving full use of stretchy side pockets even under f 7:28 ull compression. Problem with the Exos is the compression straps are permanently on outside of side pockets creating a real use problem when pack is fully compressed. What's more is the bottom side compression side is couple to/attached to the hip belt. My experience with this pack proves that this coupling s unnecessay and by decoupliing the compression strap from the hip belt results in more comfort and better function of the hip belt on my hips and then with a couple small 1/4" slits in ripstop fabric, a few hidden stitches plus super strong waterproof fabric glue, I have rerouted compression straps to under/hidden/inside stretchy side pockets. I also detached the upper compression and moved it. Now I have full use of stretchy side pockets and large front stretchy pocket even while the pack is under full ccompression. Water bottles and other items go in and out without a struggle whatsoever. Or even run longer items inside of side pockets yet still under comoression with full functional use of stretchy side pocket such as a water bottle beig put in or taken out without messin with the compression. The modification looks totally factory like it was designed that way. Side hipbelt pockets also are more functional being uncoupled from compression straps because when the belt is niw cinched down it does not stress pockets back in a weird way. This ended up being more comfortable as well. I wish there was a way to send pics. Anyway my mods added no weight and made the pack hugely more functional and just a little more comfortable.
@TomiFerrin
@TomiFerrin 5 месяцев назад
I'd love to see that fix. The details and how it works in use. Do you think you can upload some pics somehwere?
@Cessnaonfloats
@Cessnaonfloats 5 месяцев назад
Should be easy to make a low quality mobilephone video of 1 min and uploard it here on YT and send the link, no? Thanks :-)
@ericb.4358
@ericb.4358 7 месяцев назад
I've had a Gen.2 EXOS 58 for 6 years and love it. Most comfortable UL pack I have ever owned.
@adventureswithcorrine
@adventureswithcorrine Год назад
I have a Ren65 that runs just under 5lb. Packed I am hauling right a 40lbs. I use it as a day pack and come in at around 15lbs without my sleep system and food. Clearly, I am not a UL hiker! I'm a 5'2", over 50, overweight, female hiker. Finding anything that actually fits is a challenge. Osprey's adjustable everything works well in getting the pack fitted and comfortable.
@chansen999
@chansen999 5 месяцев назад
I don't have time these days to do extended trips, so for all my overnight or three-day hikes, I don't mind a few more pounds for comfort, and my Osprey packs always deliver on that point!
@stephenwebb8274
@stephenwebb8274 Год назад
New to this whole backpacking. I wanted to thank you for the videos they really put into perspective what I might want/need. Although it may seem it may be a while before I can afford some this, but hey we all got to start somewhere.
@the_towerhand1873
@the_towerhand1873 Год назад
Price doesn't have to be a factor. Plenty of good budget options out there to get you started. (tho yes it still is several hundred dollars to get into it) Then upgrade as you can. Years ago id buy gear like I did tools when I started working. Every week id buy one thing I wanted/needed. For bigger purchases, skip a week or two and put that weeks money towards the big purchase. (tent, pack or sleep system)
@merzto
@merzto 9 месяцев назад
just buy used. Plenty of barely used backpacks available.
@wtfdinges
@wtfdinges Месяц назад
Interesting you mention the compression strap on the inside as a downside. After a year of use I now specifically like that about it and I'll explain why: With the tradition straps you compress every single thing in your backpack and there's no real way to use it when you carry something that doesn't do well under compression (fragile souvenirs, some foods, etc.). With the Exos Pro I can still compress most things, but pack the stuff I don't want to compress on top of it.
@desperadodeluxe2292
@desperadodeluxe2292 11 месяцев назад
They came up with the pack brain around the Korean war. It was an additional bag that attached to the outer straps and could help keep a load down.
@grelumbass
@grelumbass Год назад
I'm an Exos 48 user and find it incredibly comfortable even with a heavier load. Kind of wish I had got the 58 (UK camping requires a wide choice of weather options) but living with it for now. Thanks for the honest review
@Turelle
@Turelle Год назад
I have the 58 and while it works well enough, I do find it overly big a lot of the time. I mostly go without the brain on it, but I know that if I use it, I can have it on it's more extended fixture point to fit quite a lot more. I carried it hiking through France several years ago (1200+ miles at a conservative estimate) and with a definitely not particularly UL kit and with 5-7 days of food it was quite a comfortable carry. Nowadays I'd be fine with a 48L pack even with multiple days of food. Definitely agree with you that you really do need to be prepared for a wide variety of weather conditions here. Getting a 'comfortable' setup when it's cold, windy and wet for days on end even in summer (never trusting the forecast...) does mean you have to dedicate a bit more weight and capacity to 'just in case, or i'll have hypothermia'.
@Kihera-zd8re
@Kihera-zd8re 9 месяцев назад
i tried the 58 but found it like, bonk into my head when i tried packing it at home. So i returned it. Now i have ordered the longly awaited 48l and i hope it will feel more comfortable to me in that regard (no discomforts.) :D
@chili1593
@chili1593 5 месяцев назад
When I was shopping for packs the green vest at REI asked me if I was looking for ultralight or comfort. I chose door 2 as my first pack was exterior frame and canvas. We looked at Gregory and Osprey. Don’t knock it if you haven’t tried it, particularly for weekend warriors.😉
@IHTACast
@IHTACast 4 месяца назад
I do military style rucking so I am very often forced to take high weight stuff, so the idea of this high quality suspension system is intriguing to me
@xandr13
@xandr13 Год назад
Buying Atmos 65 was one of the best decisions I have ever made. I've also got the Manta 32 for day hikies and long city trips - an absolute joy.
@ulrichschluter9120
@ulrichschluter9120 Год назад
I am struggling with shouldering the Atmos 65. The hip belts always collapsing behind my back and it's hard to get them back to the sides. Do you have that problem?
@xandr13
@xandr13 Год назад
@@ulrichschluter9120 Nope. I took it to the Dolomites last year with roughly 20kg load, where I climbed (well, trekked mostly) a few 2500-2800m peaks. It was a breeze, I couldn't believe how easy it carries compared to everything I'd had before.
@xandr13
@xandr13 Год назад
@@ulrichschluter9120 Also, I don't quite understand what you mean by "hip belts collapsing behind your back".
@Truth-Seeker75
@Truth-Seeker75 Год назад
The Arc Haul 60L is really a 40L, and all those attachment points makes them prone for potential failure. It is a very comfortable and functional pack though.
@__-pl3jg
@__-pl3jg Год назад
I've used a Zpacks pack but ended up swapping it for an Osprey Kestrel 38L because all those dyneema fiber packs (Zpacks) are very slippery against clothing. So the Zpacks tend to slide downward putting weight on my shoulders. It doesn't seem to matter how tight I get the waist straps. Despite Osprey being made of heavier material, it's shape conforms to the curvature of my spine and also has lots of rough surfaces that help it stay in place against my back. Because of their unique design features Osprey are my most comfortable packs (I have several, lol) which also allow me to carry heavier weights comfortably. I also have one of the older Osprey Exos packs but still find the Kestrel more comfortable and better at trabsferring weight to my legs. I couldn't carry more than 20lbs in my Zpack before it became uncomfortable. With my Osprey Kestrel 38L I can carry 35lbs comfortably for 16hrs a day no problem.
@protomaker
@protomaker Месяц назад
I have had the Exos 55 for about 10 years now and love it still. My only complaint is I don't like the original colors that I choose back then and now want to get the new exos pro 55! :)
@jadenm
@jadenm Год назад
I bought the Osprey Exos 55 Pro a few months ago and love it. I agree with your points except for having an open hip pocket. I do actually like having one zipper and one open. One additional complaint: i wish the hip belt pockets weren’t so far back. This pack is extremely comfortable and fits my gear extremely well (even better than the hyperlite). I compared the hyperlite and really wanted to keep hyperlite but three things that i couldnt get over: 1- for some reason hyperlite straps hurt my shoulder even after trying different size packs, adjusting straps, and adjusting the frames. 2- water bottle access. While i can access my smart water from hyperlite pockets, its much easier with the exos 55 pro. 3- hyperlite=sweaty back. My main concern with the exos pro 55 is durability. Time will tell but im skeptical on the material durability and how small the hip belt clip is. I would have gone for zpacks for a backpack but they are just too expensive as i never see them on sale like i do with the two other packs mentioned above.
@lt2246
@lt2246 Год назад
Regarding durability- - Osprey does have the lifetime guarantee which is a feature not mentioned. Neither Z-pack nor Hyperlite have such a guarantee.
@jadenm
@jadenm Год назад
@@lt2246 that is a very good point and is one reason that i failed to mention on why I bought it despite wondering about its durability. Update on durability: just took it on another backpacking trip where i had to bushwhack my way to the top of a mountain. I am happy to report that while my rolled up OV foam sleeping pad got torn up by all the branches and such, my backpack sustained no tears or punctures.
@teejay3272
@teejay3272 9 месяцев назад
Good job with this. I've had five Osprey packs over the past eight years or so. The only two I have now are the Kestrel 38 for winter and the 48 for backpacking which handles cans well. Reason being is each of the others had suspended back panels which developed mind-numbing squeaks in the peripheral frame. And I don't overload. The Kestrels are definitely a weight suck, that I try to shave elsewhere, but it's worth it to not deal with squeaking. Maybe it was just luck of the draw, and wouldn't happen again, but I'm not sure I'll take the risk.
@trout4bait549
@trout4bait549 9 месяцев назад
My favorite backpack - about 25 years old - has this type of mesh suspension, so I'm definitely interested in these Osprey offerings... though I'm inclined to look at the Exos 58 because it solves one of the problems you have with the 55 Pro *both side pockets zip closed (**and I can save $30). I've stated before that I'm a truly traditional backpacker, with over 50 years of experience, and I don't like to spend a lot on gear, though lighter weight gear is becoming more appealing as I get older *and it becomes more mainstream (in design and price). I am not willing to sacrifice comfort for weight, in most cases, which is why I've not made the step to an ultra-light backpack, yet.
@fakaweetribe588
@fakaweetribe588 11 дней назад
So I've never been hiking , did allot of camping as a boyscout. Doctor say I need to do more exercise now that I'm no longer working. But walking around the neighborhood is just plain boring . So I've been trying to find affordable hiking gear . Seems every youtuber has the best of the best. And that's hard to do on a budget. I appreciate the time you take on reviewing products that would otherwise be over looked as they don't fit in today's high end styles. That every youtuber has to be seen with. I know the essentials that's important to take . But the back pack is a conundrum to me. I don't mind having a 30lb pack to start to get in shape and be in nature. To start I'm not looking to morph into a knife only bear grills in 2 years . Either but would be nice to have a decent pack and gear to get out there while saving for better gear down the road.
@TheBekker_
@TheBekker_ Год назад
I've got an Osprey Atmos AG 50, and especially the suspension/frame i'm very happy about
@chrissymcal3146
@chrissymcal3146 Год назад
I actually love my Osprey bag. I have an ultralight bag as well and I actually find my Osprey bag to be significantly more comfortable and I get more use out of it
@ShortGuysBetaWorks
@ShortGuysBetaWorks Год назад
I find a pack brain to be so useful that I have added a Zpacks multi-pack to those that don't have a brain. Nice to see some progress in the hybrid-pack market, but I think they can still get a little lighter.
@davidcressey
@davidcressey Год назад
I have just completed the Cape Wrath Trail using the new Exos Pro…. It was brilliant, super comfortable and carried all I needed.
@ianpatrick23
@ianpatrick23 4 месяца назад
I’ve always been a huge fan of Osprey’s back ventilation
@mybrighton
@mybrighton Год назад
As someone who sufferschronic fatigue and pain the suspension and lightweight has me sold, i'd add a zip or velcro to that left pocket so that phone or gopro doesn't fall out if I fall forwards. Other than that it looks good, darker green or brown options would be nice Osprey. Love all your videos and work you put in, thanks for the Nikwax video did all my gear last two days 😊
@MissNikkor
@MissNikkor Год назад
I have the AURA AG 65. What i love in Osprey backpack is the suspension system and the top notch ventilation on the back. Even if they are already heavy empty, they are very comfortable. But! I hate the belt pockets! Hope they change that in the future. They are way too small to fit cell phones or even my small Sony RX camera! If i don't need a pack for heavy loads or if i'm not hiking in winter with bulky stuff, i use my new favourite pack, the Durston Kakwa😍 I used the 40L and i just purchase the 55L
@ZZ_90
@ZZ_90 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the review! We have a hiking trip on the JMT in August and I am up in the air on this pack. I know a lot of people lean towards the ultralight packs on this trail, but my full load will be around 15-18 pounds, so I am at a crossroads as to which route to go (ultralight or this pack). Comfort is honestly the most important thing to me, and that might sway me towards this pack. Just wanted to know your thoughts on this. Thanks for the video!
@bentaylor4570
@bentaylor4570 Год назад
Cost is king. I carry a heaver pack because i won’t spend more on lighter gear that has similar functionality. The exception might be the pack it self.
@tylerm.9408
@tylerm.9408 Год назад
Oh hey! I went to Moosejaw in Boulder after hearing about them from you. They were great and we got a bunch of stuff from them.
@4CountDaddy
@4CountDaddy Год назад
That pack looks great. I really like my Osprey Rook, but it lacks the front pocket, removable brain... and the side pockets aren't the greatest. I usually carry around 30 lb... my only hesitation would be going from a 65 to a 55 L pack. I just don't know that I could get away with going that much smaller... maybe some day. 😁
@envman67
@envman67 Год назад
I bought the Osprey Atmos AG 65 (too heavy and too many pockets)and all my other gear is ultralight. I’ve been having buyers remorse, but luckily I still have plenty of time to do a return. I’m going to look into this Exos. Thanks for the review.
@BigDawgCAM
@BigDawgCAM Год назад
I think the Exos would be perfect then. That or I would recommend looking at an REI Flash 55 for another option that is light-weight without sacrificing comfort or features
@TheTrailDancer
@TheTrailDancer Год назад
Fjällräven packs are my fav, heavy, but so comfy! There are so many amazing packs out there... so many... I've tried like 30 packs and i do have my favs depending on the hike. :)
@bjf10
@bjf10 Год назад
My first pack was sort of similar to the Osprey Exos 55; it was an REI flash 45; a little smaller and a little heavier, but very much the same concept. It wasn't a bad pack I like my current pack (a superior wilderness designs ultralight long haul) a lot better. It's 3/4 of a pound lighter, 10L bigger, made of higher quality materials, and fits me better being custom made. I do kind of miss having a brain on my pack for miscellaneous item storage, but I think some ziploc freezer bags will solve that problem.
@RAINSMAN79
@RAINSMAN79 Год назад
I use the previous model Exos 48 and cannot imagine using another pack. It is so comfortable I haven’t even looked up how much it weighs. And I don’t use the brain either.
@toejamr1
@toejamr1 Год назад
I knew you were going to talk about the comfort. Can’t beat it.
@MyLifeOutdoors
@MyLifeOutdoors Год назад
It’s nice for sure
@danielfegley2735
@danielfegley2735 Год назад
Sounds good , with a lite back pack that has extra room I might be able to carry a tent and sleeping bag that is not meant for back packing and then I would not have to spend money on something only to find out it's not for me, I know the bear canister was required but was it necessary did you see any bears
@ChrisHufnagel_Polymath
@ChrisHufnagel_Polymath Год назад
My osprey aether 85 is a tank. And weighs like one. 6 freaking pounds. Went kakwa 55 and not looking back.
@philsmith2444
@philsmith2444 Год назад
Yeah, but if you ever have to carry 50+ pounds that 6 pound pack will do it. I have an Argon 85 I bought just because my Aether 70 AG isn’t big enough to carry my -25F Feathered Friends bag with much more than my tent & pad in there with it.
@CalvertE98
@CalvertE98 Год назад
I've been debating with the arc haul, exos, and the kakwa. My style has been more traditional since I come from military background and used to carry massive rucks it never bothered me carrying comfort. I've recently become somewhat more lightweight with a nemo hornet elite and xmid pro 1 as my favorite shelters. But I carry roughly 15-18 lbs without water. This makes me like the exos, but I hear great about the other 2 as well
@ThePhiloctopus
@ThePhiloctopus Год назад
I have the exos and the kakwa. I've only been on short trips with either, but my brain gets along much better with the kakwa, like how much better it is to access side water bottle, how much simpler it is, i personally do not like the brain, preferring the kakwa roll top. I will probably use the exos in hot summer days just for the ventillation. otherwise the kakwa will be my first choice.
@vincentpare3028
@vincentpare3028 Год назад
I don't understand the ultralight trend, i have to say, being in the military, i often carry a backpack close to 100 pounds. My pack needs to be comfortable on my back and that's pretty much it. If i go on a multiple day hike and my pack is around 40 pounds with all the comfort i need when i set up camp, im pretty happy about it.
@MyLifeOutdoors
@MyLifeOutdoors Год назад
Now imagine all the comfort you need at 20lbs all in. Food, water, everything. And I’m not talking comprise. Nice stuff. Less energy, less fatigue, less wear and tear on your joints and knees.
@philsmith2444
@philsmith2444 Год назад
@@MyLifeOutdoors I carried a large ALICE weighing 60lb plus during my time in the army (1986-98), wearing crappy issued boots, a helmet, web gear, and carrying a 9lb rifle, and having to complete a 12 mile road march in no more than 3 hours every quarter. (We normally did it in 2-2.5 hours.) I have the feet and knees to prove it, so I definitely agree about lighter being better as long as it’s not affecting your comfort (either on the trail or at camp.) BUT - and I’m not aiming this at you because I’ve never seen any indication that you’re a hardcore gram weenie, simply putting it here as a reason why a lot of people balk at buying a new 2-3lb pack to replace their 5lb pack - if your traditional pack has an all-up weight of 30lb, then most UL packs with the same gear will come in at 27-28lb. *I* simply don’t think that’s enough of a difference to even bother with. Yeah, you can cut more weight by going with a lighter tent, pad, sleeping bag, clothing, etc, but even if you’re lucky enough to find it on sale it still adds up fast. Plus you’ll be lucky to get 50% of the purchase price if you sell your old gear to offset the cost of new stuff. Now, intentionally and unnecessarily carrying heavier stuff when you have equivalent lighter stuff, outside of training? That’s just ign’ant!
@darrylellis9578
@darrylellis9578 Год назад
I used the osprey 33 on the Portuguese Camino, no,problems except I can’t figure how to secure my walking poles to the pack.
@bart9522
@bart9522 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for showing metric!!
@BackcountryTreks
@BackcountryTreks Год назад
Osprey packs are generally used by newer hikers and backpackers. Once you learn how to efficiently use and pack your gear 9/10 chance you ditch the mainstream REI stuff like osprey.
@CarlosFlores-cu9vo
@CarlosFlores-cu9vo Год назад
Hello can you please review the Osprey UNLTD AntiGravity pack, if you haven't done so already...
@nickhikesinthewoods6150
@nickhikesinthewoods6150 Год назад
I have the osprey rook I don't even use it anymore they are heavy but my hyperlite 3400 junction has been my go to and I ordered a waymark mile backpack because I like the design of that for day hiking
@nedanother9382
@nedanother9382 Год назад
Gear Junky! (I want a waymark too)
@nickhikesinthewoods6150
@nickhikesinthewoods6150 Год назад
Yeah they are sweet it takes weeks for them to ship out though
@JokkazArt
@JokkazArt 8 месяцев назад
I got 3 osprey packs. Love them all. There might be better out there but i’m a simple man.. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Hopefullygoodgamer
@Hopefullygoodgamer Год назад
I have a question about where we can get hiking boots and at what store with a hiking section
@dovinsveto
@dovinsveto Год назад
I see alot of Osprey hate .. But I love them .. 3-5 days out .. 11-18 Neros Really how many times do you through hike really?
@karlakramer6490
@karlakramer6490 Год назад
Female here and osprey is the only pack I will use. The metal back mesh structure is imperative for me. Without this I find my spine bruises. It disburses weight better (obviously not all models have this). Even my day pack has this structure.
@MyLifeOutdoors
@MyLifeOutdoors Год назад
My wife loves her Osprey
@valdius85
@valdius85 Год назад
This backpack makes sense. Unfortunately your comments also make sense 😂❤
@PhilAndersonOutside
@PhilAndersonOutside Год назад
I don't know if this is a disagreement or not, but in my belief you have a misplaced belief that light weight is more important than comfort. I'll gladly add an extra couple of pounds to a pack if it's more comfortable. And if the pack is light weight without being ultra light, but still comfortable (like the Exos/Eja packs), great.
@MyLifeOutdoors
@MyLifeOutdoors Год назад
No you don’t disagree you misunderstand. I will also gladly add pounds for more comfort. That’s why I take a chair and a wide pad. But I don’t find heavy packs to be all that more comfortable. They carry weight better, but if you can get your base weight down (yet still comfortable) a UL pack is just as comfortable.
@PhilAndersonOutside
@PhilAndersonOutside Год назад
@@MyLifeOutdoors Then I'm misunderstanding how you're presenting yourself, and the gear you purchase. At least in this video, but others as well. That your primary focus is on light weight, continually cutting weight down, even weighing things in order to stress that importance. While someone could indeed buy a Hyperlight Backpack, ZPacks Tent, Feathered Friends Sleeping Bag, Xtherm Sleeping Pad, etc. and have enough weight savings to carry a chair, it will also set you back thousands of dollars. I'm going to argue a better way for almost everyone is to focus on comfort first, especially when it comes to a backpack. I'll stress the same about your footwear (and socks) and sleep system. Comfort is what Osprey focuses on more than anything, even if you hate them (your words, right in the title) because their packs are heavy. Granted, you can argue you're making these videos for your customer base, not the general outdoor public at large, and those customers focus on weight savings, and that would be a valid argument judging by the success of your channel.
@antduke2361
@antduke2361 Год назад
The videos are made to sell gear for large outdoor companies.if Moosejaw told the beard guy to say they had a deal with Z packs he would then say the Z Packs were ace again!
@azzaKaiapoi
@azzaKaiapoi Год назад
Wait, Osprey's are heavy? I see them on long through trails all over the place specifically because they are light. I guess, my hulking Tatonka isn't even in that conversation.
@NelsonEden-i7v
@NelsonEden-i7v 8 дней назад
Jett Run
@ematherne11
@ematherne11 Год назад
Review the Atmos Ag LT please.
@02ditf23
@02ditf23 Год назад
I never looked back after switching to the Exos 48. It carries the load like nothing else whilst remaining lightweight. I always called BS when they touted on about their '''suspension back system''' but lord almighty they weren't spewing nonsense! It's honestly one of, if not the comfiest pack I've ever worn!
@johnkerber9578
@johnkerber9578 Год назад
Got one of those a while back and same. It’s my “final pack.” 😊
@richcatlin
@richcatlin Год назад
I love my Exos 48
@jayv.8298
@jayv.8298 Год назад
Same
@TheIndianaGeoff
@TheIndianaGeoff Год назад
Agree 100%. It has a useful suspension that offers some hot weather venting, solid design and reasonable weight. Osprey took what it learned, built a not quite ultralight pack with good osprey features, well done. As said in the review, don't miss a million zippers and straps.
@TheRealTomSelleck
@TheRealTomSelleck Год назад
Exos gang.
@plaguepandemic5651
@plaguepandemic5651 Год назад
The thing with Osprey packs is even though they're a lot heavier than your average UL pack, they also tend to be way more comfortable. I've found that the frame and suspension and their anti-gravity system help mitigate that extra weight and allows you to carry a lot more stuff with a lot less discomfort, and the straps are really thick and padded and comfortable. If you're the kind of backpacker who likes to hike in luxury and bring a chair, a roomy two-person tent, real food with cookware like skillets etc, then these packs are the way to go. Even if you have a more minimalist setup, the suspension on these packs will make you feel whatever weight you do have less so than other packs would. For instance putting 20 pounds of stuff into an UL backpack and 20 pounds of stuff into an Osprey backpack and trying them both on will usually reveal the Osprey pack to be a lot more comfortable. I also tend to use all the extra bells and whistles. The provided rain cover has kept my stuff dry in heavy thunderstorms before, while the brain is where I store things I might need quickly such as my first aid kit, lighter, and my warm clothes in the wintertime. The hydration pocket for a camelbak is also pretty nice and the mesh on the frame allowing air to cool your sweaty back is a must-have imo. For reference I use the Atmos 65.
@DartmoorPaul
@DartmoorPaul 8 месяцев назад
I totally agree with you. Im curious how your rain cover was fitted as when I used mine on Atmos65 the rain pooled in the bottom & the small hole didn’t drain. Any tips? Tx
@plaguepandemic5651
@plaguepandemic5651 8 месяцев назад
@@DartmoorPaul I just pull it taut over the entire bag so only the straps are exposed and water doesn't get in
@GunSheppard
@GunSheppard 7 месяцев назад
I agree with you. While my perfect pack would be the Atmos AG 65 with a couple fewer pockets/straps (and get rid of that divider between the sleeping bag compartment and the main pack!) I find the more comfortable suspension makes the weight worth it. Years ago I went the UL route with a MLD Trail Star, Katabatic Gear Helios 55, etc, but over time I have walked back up to a 15-18 pound baseweight. I tend to go on longer unsupported backpacking trip of 5-8 days. At 2 lbs of food per day that adds 10-16 lbs of additional weight plus water. I never found that a fully laden UL pack would carry well once consumables were factored in. Plus I have found there are creature comforts that I really like that create a bit of a positive feedback loop (heavier stuff requires heavier pack), for example I like a palatial tent - usually taking the 4.2 lb 3P Hilleberg Anjan.
@andrewlinesjah4538
@andrewlinesjah4538 6 месяцев назад
Ultra light Minimalist Is always the right way BUT I AM WITH YOU in being the heavier safer pack I like these packs They are world renowned for a reason JAH BLESS ... 🙏🏻👍🏻👏🏻🔥🚶🏻‍♂️
@jackphillips939
@jackphillips939 5 месяцев назад
Did somebody order a yappuccino?
@jonsanford2515
@jonsanford2515 Год назад
The reason the Exos 55 seems bigger than the Arc Haul 60, is that Z packs includes the capacity of all the pockets in their number. Most manufacturers list only “covered” compartments in their volume. Open pockets are unmeasured additional volume, since you can put bigger items that stick out in them. Exos has 55L in the main compartment + brain. Stretch pocket and side pockets are unmeasured additional storage. Z Packs arc haul 60L is 47L body, 8L stretch pocket, 2.5 each side pocket.
@ObjectiveMedia
@ObjectiveMedia 8 месяцев назад
You’re mostly right but the 55L osprey includes the 9L brain but not the other pockets. Seems like Z packs are at it imo
@Swimdeep
@Swimdeep Год назад
I’m definitely more traditional. UL packs don’t work well for me. That are simply too flimsy. Add the steep price tag to the lack of durability and it’s a no go. I love my Osprey pack! 🌿
@philsmith2444
@philsmith2444 Год назад
Consider trying Granite Gear, they’re also hybrid packs (2.5lb 60l) that are very comfortable after you adjust your packing for a suspensionless pack with frame sheet vs perimeter frame with suspension.
@muleb384
@muleb384 Год назад
I also love my Osprey Kestrel, but I think he does have a point about the excessive zippers. There are zipper accesses that I have never used once on my pack.
@Swimdeep
@Swimdeep Год назад
@@muleb384 True enough. I have to say, all those zippers really appeal to my need for compartmentalization I’m order to keep track of all my gear. “A place for everything and everything in its place” is the only way I can find items and not lose/leave behind.🌿
@randomweirdo2701
@randomweirdo2701 Год назад
I love my standard durable osprey pack. It works well for what I use it for. All the nooks and crannies get used on my pack. If you're using stuff sacks or similar for compartmentalization and organization what weight are you really saving over a pocket? It also keeps on working year after year. Ultralight packs quit after a season or two of my use. It seems like a helluva waste for the convenience of a lighter pack.
@Swimdeep
@Swimdeep Год назад
@@randomweirdo2701 I concur completely. Same goes for trail runners that wear out after 300-500 miles. If doing a desert section of say, the PCT, a lighter weight, cooler hiking shoe can be a good thing but several parts of the first 700 miles, despite it being predominantly desert, have snow, ice, and multiple water crossings. My very first pair of hiking boots were Vasque’s “Gretchen II” and they got over 5K miles on them before they needed to be resoled. I’m a boot girl. 🥾🌿🏔️
@WolfPackM98c
@WolfPackM98c Год назад
I’ve been waiting for this UL craze to come full circle on backpacks. I figure it’s only a matter of time before people realize that ‘traditional’ packs were designed for backpacking and will offer the best experience. Stripping down frames and necessary load bearing features is backward engineering to when packs were just a bag with straps. It’s ironic that backpacks started simple and eventually evolved to what marketing has now convinced people is a ‘traditional’ (outdated) design.
@timecrash85
@timecrash85 10 месяцев назад
There are places for UL, such as summit packs, daypacks... for r\OneBag I agree you need to look into comfort.
@Im_With_Stupid
@Im_With_Stupid 2 месяца назад
I don't think it ever will go away. What started out as a fashion niche and has since grown into a subculture and as men continually become weaker and more feminine, which is partly due to everything being light as a feather and tiny, the appeal of ultralighting will only become even more appealing.
@johncheeseman6764
@johncheeseman6764 Год назад
Good video, you left out the mighty guarantee. I send my aether 65 in at the 10 years old mark for repairs. In addition to the repairs, they put a new belt and shoulder harness on the pack. Pretty much a new pack.
@NicholasComfort-nv4yx
@NicholasComfort-nv4yx Год назад
I have one of the previous models of this pack and can definitely recommend it. There are somethings that I like better with the new version (hip belt pockets), but there are some things I like on the older model (more user friendly buckles, easy to remove brain, that kind of thing)... just preference but I'd still recommend it. Only wish it was water resistant.
@tylern00
@tylern00 Год назад
I love my Osprey pack. It took me thousands of miles across Europe, probably hundreds by foot. It was a great investment and quite durable. I am an athletic, stout guy and don't mind that it's not an ultralight backpack. I wanted size and features and quality construction and it delivered. It's ten years old and just as good as the day I bought it. Osprey would be my first choice for my next pack should I ever need one. I just really loved the way it took an enormously heavy load and spread it across my body in such a way that I didn't really notice the weight.
@DNGR369
@DNGR369 Год назад
Yet spend many years with Osprey not trying any new packs - there may be even better ones out there
@m1sterpunch
@m1sterpunch Год назад
I have an Osprey Talon 11L daypack and I fell in love with it the first time I used it. My partner and I hiked a trail that has a portion that requires rappelling down some pretty steep inclines on ropes and then 6km on very sharp rocks to a secluded cove. A well balanced pack is necessary for sure footing as if you wreck an ankle you'd need to call the coast guard in before the tide traps you. (Bay of Fundy, highest tides in the world) and on the way back as soon as we climbed back up the ropes we were hit with a severe thunderstorm (wasn't in the forecast). Deafening thunderclaps and heavy rains and the inside of the pack stayed dry (with my Nikon DSLR in there too). had some dry clothes in my dry bag and wasn't expecting wet weather at all so learned a lesson for next time. Also I realized it was missing a piece for the stow on the go trekking pole feature and just emailing Osprey lastnight I got a reply in less then an hour that they were preparing to ship me out the part soon (my first time using a warranty like this) I would love to get a Stratos 36 or 44 as an overnight or weekender. I only dabble in UL so the pro versions are a bit too rich for my blood but I would certainly try Osprey again. My only complaint is that the cool Osprey logo wore off so fast. They should really embroider them or something.
@PhilAndersonOutside
@PhilAndersonOutside Год назад
The Talon series is one of the most versatile day packs one can own. Perfect blend of comfort, features, function, weight, etc.
@jantomaszrogala4230
@jantomaszrogala4230 Год назад
nice review, SPECIAL thanks for putting metric values, I always struggled with that, when I heard ounces, pounds, inches etc. I have Arc haul and since Europe doesn't required bear canisters, I'm absolutely satisfied customer, not looking for a change
@Rambling_Bob
@Rambling_Bob Год назад
Damn, I’m an admitted Osprey fanboy and have their packs in most sizes from the 5L waist belt up 🎒… and I just bought the Zpacks Arc Haul for my next through hike. Not that I don’t like Zpacks gear (and I have a bunch of it), but UK import taxes add around 30% to already expensive gear.
@joemikeska2657
@joemikeska2657 Год назад
I think Osprey makes great packs for what they are. Are they UL? Generally no. But if you like extra pockets for organization and/or carry heavier weights they make packs suited for you. Also, their warranty is among the best in the industry. I still have an Exos 58 that was my primary winter pack until I recetnly moved up to a Superior Wilderness Designs Long Haul.
@poppymonroewild
@poppymonroewild Год назад
Granite gear crown 2? Same pack, 65 L half the price.
@michymoo839
@michymoo839 Год назад
I have a Hyperlite that I love, but it leaves my back wet from sweat. I recently bought the Exos 58 for the fact that it stays off of my back during warmer backpacking trips. I had a hard time finding one that really felt like it “belongs” on me, and am still not quite happy with the fit, but my back feels so much happier. The pack fits everything I need and is completely comparable to the Hyperlite. And yes, I was nodding when you were talking about the compression strap, which is marvelous on the Hyperlite. The Exos has it’s own methods of compression, but nothing like the Hyperlite.
@Soporbum42
@Soporbum42 Год назад
I've been an Osprey guy since I put on my first Atmos AG, and I currently own 5 of their packs including two with the Anti-Grav suspension. It's heavier, but SO comfortable. I think the newest Airspeed design has me tempted to check out an Exos though
@nelsonsanchez8434
@nelsonsanchez8434 11 месяцев назад
Top picks?
@Soporbum42
@Soporbum42 11 месяцев назад
@@nelsonsanchez8434 @nelsonsanchez8434 I'm not sure I can give a top picks list, but here's what I'm using now: Syncro 10 - short hikes Hikelite 18 - day/group hikes (my guide bag) Manta 28 AG - summer overnights or winter day trips Atmos 50 AG - multi-night trips Arcane Small - commuting The only other bag I have is an REI Flash 18 which I use as a summit/day bag when I'm using the 28 or 50 liter packs overnight
@jawnmorrison110
@jawnmorrison110 8 месяцев назад
The airspeed design is superior!
@zatch01
@zatch01 5 месяцев назад
If you were going to be doing some hot and humid mountain climbing for 4 days. Atmos 50 or exos for reduced weight?
@travellingDAS
@travellingDAS Год назад
A great review as always! I tried to move away from my Osprey and tried a Mariposa 60. On paper the Mariposa is an awesome pack however for me there one huge problem in that without airflow between my back and my pack I really struggle. I just could not get comfortable with the Mariposa. In my experience, when it comes to packs, lighter is not always better, the key is comfort and weight transfer to your hips.
@zacchaeusm4085
@zacchaeusm4085 Год назад
I agree! Comfort and distribution of weight onto your hips makes you go further. It’s kind of like the tortoise and the hare. With the Osprey you might walk a little slower than the others but you’ll walk for longer than the others. It’s the little uncomfortable things that drain you out where as total comfort and support allows you to concentrate on maximum energy efficiency movements
@LMay64
@LMay64 Год назад
Really nice review. After osprey came out with packs over 6 lbs last year, it’s nice to see they offer something in the 2lbs range. I’m always looking for a great pack when a bear canister is required. Now, if they’d just make that pack in Ultra…
@maxwellerickson7066
@maxwellerickson7066 Год назад
Almost every pack made from Ultra seems to have been confirmed to have delaminating issues. Turns out Ultra wasn't sufficiently time-tested before it was put to commercial pack use. Ultra X may be better.
@LMay64
@LMay64 Год назад
@@maxwellerickson7066 Some delamination has been noticed following thru hikes, yet balanced with the high water resistance, greater protection from abrasion, increased strength and durability and being constructed from recycled materials, I truly enjoy my ultra packs. Besides weighing much less, they hold up to tough conditions in the mountains and desert much better than fabrics used by Osprey. Additionally, they just don’t absorb water in humid and rainy conditions. Oh, and it’s not “every pack.” None of my 5 Ultra packs have shown any delamination whatsoever.
@ClimbingEasy
@ClimbingEasy Год назад
I have a lumina 45 from osprey, 45l, under 2lbs, airframe, ospreys amazing lifetime guarantee! To be honest nobody bought this pack is why osprey doesn't make an ultra light pack anymore... But it's my favorite backpack I've ever owned
@WolfPackM98c
@WolfPackM98c Год назад
@@maxwellerickson7066 Of course it wasn’t. There is so much money being thrown at this stuff right now that these companies are racing to get products made available with it. They are also taking advantage of being able to slightly tweak the composite make-up and being able to market a ‘new’ proprietary material that has little to no feedback on the market. By the time issues arise, lots of products have already been sold.
@LMay64
@LMay64 Год назад
@@ClimbingEasy It seems like a great pack, especially for those who have trimmed down their gear, requiring less volume. Perhaps better marketing would pay off. When you look at the multitude of cottage vendors now in the market, constantly creating, innovating and improving the UL backpacking scene, the demand is there. People are willing to pay more for quality, innovative UL gear......lots more. Osprey has a built in market for packs that cater to the mainstream, relying on the bigger retailers to market their packs for them. Its no wonder the UL hybrid and transitional packs do not do as well. Very few REI or other retailers have a true wealth of knowledge to pass on to people getting into this hobby. People beginning backpacking often try to use older equipment or rely on the recommendations of salespeople and friends who lack experience with UL gear. Watching channels like this does help, but my guess is many buy their mainstream pack as recommended by salespeople or based on a quick google search before really understanding available options.
@davemacdonald7928
@davemacdonald7928 Год назад
Your comment on the weight of Osprey packs how "its not uncommon for them to be 5 lbs or more" is unfounded. Only one of the packs in thier line of hiking packs is in that range. The Aether/ Ariel are for heavy loads for people doing serious trip like Denali or other trip that require lots of heavy gear and food. That comment is a bit deceiving . I'm glad you like that pack though. I do too.
@Lucario9d
@Lucario9d 7 месяцев назад
An osprey atmos 65 was my first pack 5 years ago, and it’s the same one I use today. There is a lot of extra weight and unnecessary organization, but I love the pack. It’s incredibly comfortable and adjustable and there is no wear. I have no desire nor need to purchase a new backpack, so it saves me a lot. I don’t understand how you could actually hate the pack, even with every opinion you listed, but to each their own. I will gladly continue to enjoy my time outdoors because of my atmos.
@MarkMeridiusDecimus
@MarkMeridiusDecimus 4 месяца назад
I'm so mad at myself for not buying one 6 years ago. They used to have the green/orange pack everywhere. I went with an Aether, and the lactic acid build up I get in my upper glutes is so annoying I've been rocking it with just shoulder straps for half the time. I'm average build as well
@UnkemptBushell
@UnkemptBushell Год назад
Osprey is ubiquitous in the UK as we don't have as much choice when it comes to backpacking brands. I tend to avoid them but I've recently purchased the Exos 48 (non-pro) as it cuts the nonsense. I'll be testing it next week but I like the look and feel of it so far. The suspension system and the ventilation it provides seems worth a little bit of extra weight.
@02ditf23
@02ditf23 Год назад
I never looked back after switching to the Exos 48. It carries the load like nothing else whilst remaining lightweight. I always called BS when they touted on about their '''suspension back system''' but lord almighty they're weren't spewing nonsense! It's honestly one of, if not the comfiest pack I've ever worn!
@nedanother9382
@nedanother9382 Год назад
Please let me know if it kept your back dry. I suspect it doesn't. They are too much form over function - even still you got the best pack they probably made at the time. I've never heard anyone complain about it. You may not have many choices in the UK but you have Atom packs - which may be my next pack. They are the bomb and hand made in the UK. Cheers to all my brothers from other mothers in the UK - peace!
@02ditf23
@02ditf23 Год назад
@@nedanother9382 I've the Exos 48 and while it doesn't keep my back completely dry, in my experience it's been by far the best at keeping the sweat at bay compared other packs. And I own A LOT of packs. ZPacks Arc Haul & Blast, Big Agnes, Hyperlite Mountain Gear, ULA Equipment, MLD and Gossamer Gear. They all pale in comparison to the breathability of Ospreys suspension back system, they simply do it better than anyone else. "They are too much form over function"? I'd have to completely disagree, it's very minimalist and unlike other manufactures who've tried to implement a similar system, it actually for the most part works. But again, this as only been my experience, your mileage may very well vary!
@UnkemptBushell
@UnkemptBushell Год назад
@@nedanother9382 Will do! I've been very tempted by a custom Atom Packs pack actually. I may pick one up after this trip, unless I absolutely love the Exos. Incidentally, I'll be passing right by Atom's HQ on this trip.
@nedanother9382
@nedanother9382 Год назад
@@02ditf23 my friend you have a gear problem..im sure id be divorced if i had that many packs. Its my adhd that kinda forces me to the simpler forms. My pile is getting bigger however
@crstarkey
@crstarkey 8 месяцев назад
I got hooked on Osprey years ago with my Xenith. Cavernous for long trips, comfortable, easy access. Sold it to a kid hiking the AT. I just bought a Atmos 65. The waist belt is tighter than I like so I'm looking to swap it out; but I got it at such a good price, I had to buy it. Your pack looks good so thanks for sharing.
@marekmigal4935
@marekmigal4935 Год назад
Nice! I bought this exact backpack mere two weeks ago, and I love it just the same. The construction is comfortable, yet stable, and I experienced none of the weight shifting I dealt with before, when using older and cheaper backpack.
@CharmingGecko
@CharmingGecko Год назад
I want to get this pack for my wife, but only if they make it smaller. 55 is just too much.
@Jennifer.4
@Jennifer.4 Год назад
If you remove the lid the capacity is reduced by 9 litres. I have the x small eja which is 52 litres. I use it for long day hikes without the lid. The compression is very good and it is lighter than my lower capacity packs.
@davidshirley6850
@davidshirley6850 Год назад
So glad you reviewed this pack I have been looking at waymark but when this came out it peaked my interest
@BigDawgCAM
@BigDawgCAM Год назад
As someone who has owned a frameless Waymark Evlv, I would 100% recommend the Osprey Exos instead. I would really only consider those frameless packs for ultralight setups on thru-hikes. The Osprey is going to be so much more comfortable and easier to use, that you aren't even going to notice the extra weight.
@mattbeckwith8575
@mattbeckwith8575 Год назад
I’ve got a regular EXOS 58L and am a big fan. Super comfortable, so you don’t notice that extra half pound or so that you’re carrying because of how well the suspension holds up.
@gadblatz4841
@gadblatz4841 Год назад
​@@BigDawgCAM You know that Waymark has several internal frame offerings right?
@BigDawgCAM
@BigDawgCAM Год назад
​@@gadblatz4841 And let me reiterate - Even against a similar weighted internally framed Waymark pack, the Osprey is going to be a better option. The Osprey's external frame and cushion hipbelt is a lot more comfortable and better suited to distribute weight and the ventilated back is far better at dissipating heat compared to the cramped, soaked wet back you are going to have sliding against the waterproof XPac on the Waymark all day. Get the Osprey.
@Crozbyguy-rg1iu
@Crozbyguy-rg1iu 4 месяца назад
I've never seen a hiker use an umbrella while crossing a stream before.
@rumidude
@rumidude Год назад
I will NEVER have another backpack without ventilation. EVER! ZPacks are not substantial enough to handle heavier loads. Additionally they are subject to problems with the arc system. Gregory has a version of ventilated suspension but it is not as good as the Osprey. The easily removable brain is another greater feature of the Exos. Q I can fit, just barely, a BV550 horizontally inside at the top of my Exos 48, which has worked fantastic for longer extended trips of seven days or more. Too many ultralight packs will barrel unless they are packed just right. And I have used a lot of various ultralight packs and always return to Osprey.
@philsmith2444
@philsmith2444 Год назад
Even my GG Crown2 packs with their frame sheets and back panels will barrel if I tighten the compression straps enough to take out all the wiggle. So they get tightened just until I feel resistance, and I snug compression sacks just enough so they use all available horizontal room. Stuff with fixed sizes, like stove and sleeping pad, have items stuffed around them to minimize unused space.
@Farbulus
@Farbulus Год назад
I have the Atmos AG 50L. The AG system is pretty amazing at weight distribution.
@NikonF5user
@NikonF5user Год назад
The Atmos AG50, before redesign this past year, is similarly laid out but has an amazing harness system that is worth the added weight IMHO. The newer one I think adds zippered pouches more like the AG65, but it's still relatively unencumbered wirh straps and so forth.
@philsmith2444
@philsmith2444 Год назад
Yes, it’s really a great pack, and the suspension/hip belt transfer weight to your hips so completely that you can almost tighten the hip belt and leave the shoulder straps fully loose. The brain doesn’t need 3 straps to attach to the back of the pack and clip-style buckles would be much nicer than ladder buckles, but it’s not like you’ll be removing/installing it multiple times per day. So that’s really a nitpick. The top compression strap really should be on the outside a la roll top pack like mentioned in the video. The hip belt pockets should be attached to the movable parts of the adjustable hip belt so fat guys like me don’t have them way out on our sides, and for the love of god, Osprey, PLEASE figure out to make hip belt pocket zippers that open/close smoothly one-handed! But it really is a great pack, I only use it 1 or 2 times a year but when I do its amazing comfort puts a smile on my face every time.
@Nij-hc7ss
@Nij-hc7ss Год назад
Only thing that really annoyed me with this pack is how the toggles keep popping out of the adjustable torso slots.
@MyLifeOutdoors
@MyLifeOutdoors Год назад
I didn’t have any issues with that.
@brennan77
@brennan77 Год назад
I've got the atmos 65. It's been with me through some good times but it is certainly heavy. I'd love to try this out but I'm not sure I could justify the expense over what I currently own.
@ExplorewithmeMarloC
@ExplorewithmeMarloC Год назад
When i first started backpacking I got an Osprey womens tempest 20. I still use it but now I wish I waited and got something lighter. I like it but i do find it to be heavy with nothing in it. Next pack i may try one of your suggestions.
@ebersoless
@ebersoless Год назад
Why they stick with that crap top closure is a huge mystery to us all. Just a standard roll top closure would fix 75% of why I hate all Osprey packs.
@philsmith2444
@philsmith2444 Год назад
I didn’t mind the Osprey closure until I got my Granite Gear packs with roll tops. Now I don’t understand why anybody uses anything BUT roll tops. It doesn’t stop me from using my Ospreys when they’re more appropriate for the weight I’m carrying, though.
@samnnaruto
@samnnaruto Год назад
Trditionnal pack might not be for yyou, but its is still good for 85% of hikers. People who are not into ultralight, will prefere these pack do to resistance, confort and how much you can load them with heavy stuff. the Osprey Aether is good but I still think that the best Osprey pack is the Atmos AG. Best confort and loading weight you can have on the market.
@jameshaulenbeek5931
@jameshaulenbeek5931 Год назад
I love my Kestrel 38. It's very comfortable, fits me very well, and handles the small amount of gear I have wonderfully.
@philsmith2444
@philsmith2444 Год назад
Same here, at 25lb and with 5 of those pounds being snowshoes strapped to the very front of the pack it still rides very nicely without pulling back on my shoulders. The fixed brain is the only reason I’m considering getting rid of it in favor of my Granite Gear Crown2 38.
@hikingmando
@hikingmando Год назад
Almost looks like a good pack, but appears to have a deal breaker feature for me - a compression strap that goes over the side bottle pockets.
@philsmith2444
@philsmith2444 Год назад
I’ve never understood that. On my Aether 70 AG you can route them over or under the mesh pockets, same with my Granite Gear Crown2s. All it takes is 2 small notches maybe 1.5” wide in the pocket material and a Fastex-type buckle on the end of the strap.
@theonlynikki27
@theonlynikki27 Год назад
I've had the Aura since the beginning and yeah it's almost 4 pounds empty but I have yet to find an ultra light pack that is comfortable on me.
@frankfowlkes7872
@frankfowlkes7872 Год назад
This is the other side of the coin for me. I have yet to find a more comfortable pack they my Osprey!
@scottlarrabee9527
@scottlarrabee9527 Год назад
Yes! Are the designs the best-not always (but I do love the straight jacket compression). Would I rather carry a little (ok alot, I have a crescent) extra weight from the pack so that I don't notice the weight IN the pack? Absolutely.
@nedanother9382
@nedanother9382 Год назад
@@scottlarrabee9527 I'm gonna call a little BS on your logic. Weight is weight regardless of how its carried. Its carried on you legs knees hips and back. The only way to improve that is to take less of it. I started with your exact logic (5.5lb Gregory Cadillac) nearly killed me - but it did carry like a champ....never a rub or red spot. Now my pack, sleep system and tent weigh less than my old pack. Take less do more. But if it takes more to get you out then power to you. Have a great day - eventually the snow will melt(ish) and I'll be less cranky...I just keep stacking up permits
@philsmith2444
@philsmith2444 Год назад
Weight is definitely not weight regardless of how it’s carried. Don’t believe me? Put your gear in a GI duffel bag and carry that on your next backpacking trip. The more weight can be transferred directly to your hips the more comfortable it’ll be to carry, and Osprey (and other traditional) packs do that extremely well. Much of their extra weight is due to the materials and design features needed to do that, though they do have some unnecessary weight (the Flapjacket under the brain as opposed to a roll top w/compression strap, for example.)
@scottlarrabee9527
@scottlarrabee9527 Год назад
@@nedanother9382 I get the notion that weight is weight. However, disregarding a pack solely because of its weight seems as ludicrous as wearing the lightest possible boot, even of it doesn't really fit. Before my osprey, I had a lighter simpler bag, and the hip bruising (even at long day hike loads) and back and shoulder pain I'd get from it meant that I would be reluctant to put it on for days afterwards. I'm curious - have you ever tried your current light weight system in your old Gregory?
@RoughLandings77
@RoughLandings77 Год назад
I picked up the Osprey Exos 58 last year to use as my 3-season pack and it is by far the most comfortable pack I own. It weighs just under 2 lbs, much lighter than my older packs.
@maxplaylist
@maxplaylist Год назад
Just under 3 lbs
@jamiederudder8825
@jamiederudder8825 Год назад
39 ounces on my 2018 version without the lid@@maxplaylist think they made it heavier on newer ones
@philipsilvers1321
@philipsilvers1321 Год назад
Great video! I didn't like my Osprey at first either; but mine won me over very quickly. LOL! Thanks for the video!
@jwmmitch
@jwmmitch Год назад
I'm a rookie 'packer looking for comfort more than UL. I don't know that I'll ever pack more than 3 days so a bit of extra weight won't matter as much to me. I definitely want lighter gear, but as of right now, weight is never better than 3rd priority for me. And really my priorities are a balance of cost, "good" and weight
@philsmith2444
@philsmith2444 Год назад
Give Granite Gear a try, since the Crown3 60 came out you can often find the previous Crown2 model for 40-50% off the $220 MSRP. 2.5lb, no suspension or wire frame but with a back pad, frame sheet, and hip belt that really transfer weight to your hips very well.
@docwest114
@docwest114 Год назад
I would definitely try this pack. I love my Osprey "traditional" pack already so I'm interested in a lighter pack from them!
@DontHateItsBased
@DontHateItsBased Год назад
I just got the Granite Gear perimeter 35. Weighs a little more than I’d like but the comfort is off the charts. I have an osprey daylite plus. I swear it weighs more than my Perimeter lol
@philsmith2444
@philsmith2444 Год назад
I’m considering trying a Perimeter 50 to possibly replace my BELOVED Osprey Atmos 50 AG, but I love it so much I’d probably keep it and alternate between them LOL (assuming the Perimeter is at least as comfy.)
@DontHateItsBased
@DontHateItsBased Год назад
@@philsmith2444 I did a hard 10 miles in the Buffalo River in Arkansas last weekend for the first trip with it. I forgot I had a loaded pack on even with large amounts of elevation change. What I love is the fact I can customize the fit. That was a HUGE selling point for me. My bigger pack is a Sierra Designs Flex Capicitor 60-75 which comes in almost a full lb lighter than the Perimeter 35. That being said the Perimeter is rated to a 40 lb load in a 35L pack. So with an 11 lbs load it was heaven lol
@philsmith2444
@philsmith2444 Год назад
@@DontHateItsBased I’ve had my Atmos loaded to 35lb and it was rock steady on my back, never shifting and throwing me off balance. It sounds like the Perimeter 50 should be the same if it’s a good fit for my body type. One question I have is how much play there is in the shoulder strap attachment points? Daisy chains don’t seem to be the most secure method of attachment, but I’m guessing all the slop is taken up when you have the pack on and tightened? And I’m interested to see how they hold up long-term. How’s GG’s warranty? What do you think of that top flap? It looks like it won’t hold much as a brain. Is the bottom flap also removable? (It looks like it is in the pics.) Its pocket also looks on the small side, both maybe good for TP/trowel/hand sanitizer, water filter, pack cover, etc. Have you had it out in rain? How water repellent is it?
@DontHateItsBased
@DontHateItsBased Год назад
@@philsmith2444 once everything is packed the straps are def mitigated. That was one of my concerns also. The only straps that seemed excessive are for the waist.
@mtpstv94
@mtpstv94 Год назад
The features on Ospreys (specifically Atmos in my case) aren't unnecessary. They just have a place and time. Unfortunately for most of us "serious" hikers the Atmos/etc are just a pain in the ass. Though they are perfectly comfortable. I love the brain for the fact that I can keep things there which I need quick access to, but my god is it a royal pain to remove/re-attach all the time and I hate how it kind of "dangles" there at the top. I know it's attached tight and won't move but it just bothers me. One of its biggest issues is that getting your water bottle out of the pockets with the pack on is damn near impossible unless you have one of the shortest Smart Water bottles. The zips are impossible to operate on the pockets with one hand too, etc. It definitely has some issues but 98% of it is good but just doesn't work well for us as it could even if it is a damn good pack. Hopefully Exos fixes a lot of those issues.
@MyLifeOutdoors
@MyLifeOutdoors Год назад
I use a water bottle hydration tube adapter so reaching for a bottle isn’t an issue for me. But I did think to check this (after filming) and it is possible with the side access holes on the Exos pro. They work well either way
@mtpstv94
@mtpstv94 Год назад
@@MyLifeOutdoors Yea at this point seeing this video I wish I had spent the money on that bag instead of the Atmos. When I started the Atmos just overwhelmed me with coolness and I jumped on it. lol Mistakes were made. Lessons were learned =).
@MyLifeOutdoors
@MyLifeOutdoors Год назад
@@mtpstv94 I’m sure it’s a great pack! If it gets you on trail can’t be a mistake
@philsmith2444
@philsmith2444 Год назад
Yeah, the Atmos brain is more difficult to remove than it needs to be - 2 clip buckles instead of 3 ladder buckles to hold it to the pack would be much better - but how often do you remove/attach it? At most once before and once after a hike, I’m assuming? An extra 30 seconds at each end doesn’t seem so intolerable.
@mtpstv94
@mtpstv94 Год назад
@@philsmith2444 I feel like if it was convertible to a fanny pack it would be revolutionary.
@EricTungCom
@EricTungCom Год назад
I have the previous generation of the Osprey Atmos 65 AG, and have a core weight around 20 lb, and will tip over 30 when carrying food and water. I love the idea of the Exos Pro pack however, I love my side vent and bottom and entry zippers too much and can't justify saving 2lb to give up those features.
@tomasfrynta6621
@tomasfrynta6621 Год назад
Exactly, It’s always about preferences, but I love the extra padding for whatewer I need and can’t fit inside.
@deeshunt4228
@deeshunt4228 Месяц назад
I have a 5 year old Osprey Atmos 50 and I love it. The suspension and the mesh is what makes it for me. Also the bladder compartment with the little strap and clip is well thought out. It does weigh in at 4.5 lbs but it sure is comfortable and functions well enough that I don't feel the need to get anything else. Cheers
@guitarhiker4449
@guitarhiker4449 Год назад
Nice review man! My first day hiking pack was a osprey stratos 24. I loved that pack!! The trampelene back is second to none! Until i tried severe ultralight gear then i realized how much i missed their trampelene mesh back panel. Although alot of other osprey packs dont compare to the stratos trampelene back. They seem to have shrunk the seperation overtime on the back mesh? I do like this new exos 55. The brain of these packs are a handy feature. I say that too cause i noticed alot of people who use ultralight roll top packs still find themselves without enough room. So before you know it gear is filled every exterior pocket and some even have gear dangling off the pack somewhere. Seems thats where alot of ultralight packs fail. I want the pack im using to hold all my gear without gear hanging off the pack too much. Only thing i would like to see osprey do is use premium pack materials like Robic nylon, dyneema, X-pack, ultra pack. Maybe even design their own roll top pack but keep this new trampelene style back and frame suspension. Not sure if that crosses over Z-packs patents or not but would be very nice to see. Or i would like to see an update Levity pack made with better materials and offered in more subdued color ways. White is just tough to keep clean. Good stuff man! Hike on!!
@chrissymcal3146
@chrissymcal3146 Год назад
That would be the ultimate pack for me ; Osprey suspension, roll top and made it dyneema👌
@mikni4069
@mikni4069 6 дней назад
I agree the packs are heavy, but that is true for all traditional packs like Gregory, Deuter as well, also ultralight does not really handle heavy items all too well. For that a more traditional pack just works better. I’m not surprised Exos works so well as it alongside Atmos and Stratos always been the most comfortable packs due to their TMP of the Osprey line. Aether that you shown has always been a mediocre pack with a mediocre suspension system and to much going on it, , Exos, Atmos and Stratos are more simplistic although latter two are still on the heavier side. Osprey doesn’t really do ultra light, just as all other traditionalist don’t either, so it’s a bit of an odd complaint, as there still many for whom ultra light will never actually work like carrying bear canisters, photographers who do overnights and other needing to cary more big heavy gear, also all the traditional I had could take up some absolute brutal beating, I wish I could say the same about the other stuff. So it’s all about horses for causes.
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