This is why I got a new job and didn't tell my old job until the day of , i started my new job that I wasn't coming in . 2 weeks my butt , my dog is loyal to me that's it .
lucky! some of us work in sectors where there are non competes. so we can't get a job while on the job we have to leave or tell our employer we are applying to a potential competitor.
I've said it before and it's worth mentioning again; if an employer tells you at the interview, "we're like a family here" run, don't walk outta there. Most likely it's a DYSFUNCTIONAL FAMILY😂
I'm shocked, just not at the layoffs. I'm shocked these folks actually believed there is a shred of decency left in corporate America. Did they really buy into the "you're a member of the Tesla family " line.
@@TheoneGodfather A courteous thank you for your service note would help. they used to do that but corps has gotten more radical e.g. no call no show for 2 days, employment at will, zero severance pay! More rights are being taken away from many industry overtime, bad 401k investments that charges you too much management fees and crap growth, expansive health plans that doesn't cover at least 90% of the costs. Woohoo, by age of retirement, if you can make it, you will be probably not going to get what was promised to YOU! What am trying to say, stop taking things for granted!!!
@@analienfromouterspace None of that pertains to the original comment that I replied to. They went to work for a failing company. It sucks but maybe you should buy a cyber truck to help them out.
Younger generation, know that no company in America is guaranteed til you retire. The days of working 30 years or more for the same company ended a long time ago. Never put all your eggs in one basket for a company. Have a backup plan
Their still out there, but hard to find. I'm hopeful that I can retire from my job in 20 years with 36 years of service. Benefits, Pension, Wages are top tier for my skilled trade. UAW 4 Life.
@tomf8449 they'll sell the company a few years before the bulk of you and your co workers are due to retire. In the paperwork it will state that they only had to pay you benefits if they keep the company. The new company will offer you half benefits or nothing. You'll take it.
My dad worked at IBM for exactly 25 years. The very day he went in for his 25th anniversary, they gave him a catalog and said he could choose any item he wanted for his quarter-century of employment, and then told him he was laid off and to clear out his office.
An angry employee could do a lot of damage in 3 months. When I was younger I gave a 2 week notice when quitting a job and they fired me the same day. I give no notice anymore, last job I quit the morning I was scheduled. I walked in and told them I quit.
There is a difference between Reduction in Force (RIF) and layoffs. There are a RIF laws which require certain criteria to be met during layoffs. This avoids things like discrimination during the layoff period m. So there are some protections which does include informing the workforce ahead of time of layoffs. That being said, most states are what’s called At Will employers which means once can be terminated at anytime without cause.
So many CEOs complain that younger generations lack the same work ethic and respect for employers as past generations. Companies have always wanted respect and commitment from their workers. That same commitment and respect is never given back to employees.
True! Management at so many companies suck! Franchises also have shitty managers who only have high school diplomas.🎉the amount of disrespect and verbal harassment I received at my first fast food job was insane.
Unfortunately, companies don't give people a heads up anymore if they're going to soon be laid off. They expect a two week notice if you quit, but won't even let you know you no longer have a job until you drive to work and are unable to clock in. Total bs.
I just quite most the time n don't give a notice, one reason I do this is because the other employes are mean to you n treat you bad your last 2 weeks at some jobs cause you are quiting Also at one job I gave a 2 week notice n they let me go like the next day, after the main boss told me I no longer have a job I told him what about my 2 weeks left, he told me that's up to companies if they want to keep you working those 2 weeks or let you go sooner, 1st time I heard that one Or sometimes I just call them n say I got a emergency that came up n I am quiting n can no longer work there n I quite right then, if they ask what the emergency is I say I don't want to talk about it People on jobs you can quite anytime n they can fire you anytime, even if you give a 2 week notice, so always have some money saved that can cover 1-2 months of expenses until you can get another job
On the other side of things when you quit a job usually the company doesn't come to your house and shoot it up, sabotage your equipment, or steal your computres databases. However, when people get fired / layoff then some employees do some crazy stuff. However, you should never find out after you drove to work unless its at the end of the day. Should be at the end of a monday so that you have the week to apply to other jobs and not on a Friday where you ruin someones weekend.
My wife got fired one month and I got laid off the next with two toddlers and less than K2 in my pocket. But we made it with God’s help and determination. People were just like “Well good luck with that”. It’s not the end of the world.
Couple weeks ago a recruiter connected me via LinkedIn and then phone invited me to interview for production manager role at Austin Texas. I couldn't attend to the event as I was already at my job. Now I realize I didn't Miss opportunity, I dodged a bullet
They fire the middle of the pack. The ones that are probably being paid a little better than they should be, but are not super critical to anything. They fire two middle of the pack workers and bring in a new guy that doesn't know he's doing double the work. It's a very dick move on the companies part. The younger generation understands the game. They keep their resume updated and are always open to see what other jobs offer. The companies have no loyalty, so neither does the new generation of workers. Even raises don't keep up with what competitors are willing to pay a new hire. Every couple of years, move up or move on. There is no reward in sticking around.
I worked four 10 hour days. We had a meeting to tell us that we're moving back to five 8 hours days. The meeting was really that we were all going to be laid off.
People are learning that electric vehicles suck‼️ They leave you stranded in cold weather, catch fire in the summer and trap you if you end up in the water. Yeah I'll keep my gas vehicle forever ‼️
And don’t forget self driving at least some Tesla models are but even then they’re dangerous because sometimes they make terrible decisions such as almost bumping into people or not recognizing certain things on the road. Just like I saw this RU-vid video where he said a self driving tesla was doing such risky things that as he said “was incredible” but all I saw was too much risk that shouldn’t be done he even said he was scared but proud of his Tesla
Yep, you've gotta know that this could happen at any time, especially as an at-will employee. I saw the same thing on a video about Tyson's Chicken laying people off. People in Tennessee saying that they expected to retire from that job and an entire comments section saying, "OMG, that is so screwed up." They don't have an obligation to employ you for life. It's a company, not a charitable institution. I will say that the way Tesla lays people off is pretty sackless. You find out you're fired because you can't clock in and then you get an e-mail later in the day (should've been sent the night before at least). I don't see how saying how you were fired would violate any NDA but I believe that Elon is enough of an a-hole to sic his lawyers on you and warn other companies to not hire you (a form of retaliation that is illegal but good luck ever proving it). Elon LOVES to flex on employees that can't do anything to him.
I was also laid off after 26+ years back in September 2021 and now I found a job at a completely different industry as to what I was doing. I actually wanted to quit as management turned toxic and my colleagues told me to wait to get laid off as you will get a severance and I did for a little over a year. Now I heard from the grapevine that they made a mistake but couldn’t do anything and no one wants to work there anymore.
I got laid off in the oil and gas industry because Biden closed down 700,000 jobs for this electric car push, and now even they are suffering because people don't want the damned things.
21 years here. I couldn't believe it. And by some punk manager who knew nothing. It's a real shock to the system almost like a bereavement but you are expected to just suck it up. God damn I was angry.
@@bennewnham4497it's always the know nothing punk managers that pull such sucker moves, then put the entire remaining team in shit as the ones they let go were the real geniuses who ran the show. I'm talking from experience and damn they usually regret the move later but too late
That's one of the biggest problems with Americans not living with in your means and living a life of plastic cards. It takes awhile to creep up on u but when it does its hits hard and fast
It’s sad how companies expect 2+ weeks notice, but for employees they don’t get 2 weeks notice. Not only that they waste his time and fuel driving to work only to not allow him to clock in? That’s shameful. It’s the equivalent to an employee just doing a no call no show and never coming back to work with no communication.
Generally (and likely with this layoff) employees will receive at least 2-weeks pay but will NOT have to show up for working those two weeks. If you ask the employee would they rather keep coming in for 2 weeks and get paid or... would they rather take the severance pay and have free time to LOOK for new employment, which do you think that they would accept? Sometimes the story you hear doesn't include all of the information... Just say'n.
@@larryharvey5818 You may be right, but it seems like they would/should have mentioned that in the news stories. And regardless of that, 2 weeks notice for an employer is enough time to find another employee but for an employee that is not nearly enough time to fill a large wage gap even if they are hired by another company within 1 day of getting laid off which most people won’t have opportunities lined up like that. Most jobs pay bi-weekly, and at those jobs you are always 1 week behind on pay. So what ends up happening is the employee who get hired either gets paid for one week after working two weeks or has to work three weeks to get paid for their first two weeks of work. Basically what I’m saying is two weeks notice is fair fir employers but for employees it’s definitely not fair. It doesn’t give them adequate time especially employees and it’s no fault of their own that they’re getting laid off. They’re not getting fired for being bad employees.
That's why I was never a company, man. I never gave anybody a 2 week notice. Just the way I showed up I left. I enjoyed life and family. You only get one life that's all you're gonna get. And there's no due overs and when you die, because you're gonna die. You're not taking nothing with you.
Preferably more tbh, I'm a software engineer and have been laid off twice in 5 years (first time was from Tesla). Ive been job searching for 4 month and no luck. At the end of the day business is business but these frequent layoffs really have me re-thinking my career path.
@@user-qm3or6cz6k A good portion of America lives on paycheck to paycheck. Being able to have four to five months of savings in a bank account is not attainable for the middle and lower classes. I hope you find something that demands your talents.
Anytime i put in a two weeks notice, i got fired on the spot. Any job i have had, management told me my bills aren't the corporations problem. So why even have a society just for a corporations benefit? Let's just go back to hunting and gathering if you want to do that. We would have a better fighting chance
I was in management and when someone turned in a two week notice I let them go, called HR, got their pay out and took any keys and walked them to their cars. A bad apple spending ten days in the work pool rotting and starting rumors is bad for the whole team.
Happend to me every 3 to 4 yrs - never count on a job, Employers only care about Money in their pocket - as a worker your nothing more than a Tampon After this happend to me a few times I started a business on the side and that got me to retire early - no more BS
This is tru, but it's also the other way around. Employees only care about their paycheck. Your employer is nothing more than a job. We can't say a company is evil because they laid you off. You'd do the same if you had to. They're not in the business of loosing money.
This is why not having an emergency fund is an emergency. Your employer does not care about you. Make the sacrifices now to save up a 3-6+ month emergency fund so you’re not scrambling to make ends meet later.
Yes, having no credit card debt, Emergency fund, and getting a car that you can afford to pay for in cash. The company doesn't care that you have bills to pay.
I never voted Republican. They have been hell-bent on destroying the American economy since Reagan. I think they have run out of money to steal. Now they are trying to "fake" the rapture to soak the rest of the low IQ people's money.
I worked for a company for 12 years. At year 11 I was diagnosed with cancer and underwent treatment. Before my diagnosis, I was tasked with developing and implementing an office-wide incentive program, and took two weeks off for my surgery and recovery. Upon my return, I continued working on the project and got final approval to roll it out on the first of the next month. I rolled it out and within 4 hours we were told the office would be closing and we were all laid off. All my work was for nothing.
No company is ever going to give you notice before a lay off, period. To do so would leave them open to acts of vandalism or worse by disgruntled former employees.
@@Tom-dz6yo Well, not outright. But I worked in a company and the management spread a "rumor" that corporate is going to shut it down 3 months prior. We all got new jobs before our notice was up. I remember having 2 months of paid notice without needing to go to the office. New job waiting for that to expire. My wife was totally annoyed by me prancing around the house doing nothing. Let me explain: As Im in EU, every employee is due 2 weeks paid notice if he was with the company for more then 2 years and then another week for every year afterwards. up to 2 months. Also every employee is entitled to 1 months of salary for every year they spend with company. Also - you can not outright fire ppl. You can either make them "redundant" or need to have a good reason. If you make ppl redundant - you cant hire ppl on to the same or similar spot in several years. And for all the eager beavers who live to work, grind and hustle... yea, Im not like that. If someone pays me to do nothing, Ill gladly oblige and enjoy life. We own our apartments, have savings and I dont need private jets and / or fancy stuff.
@@Tom-dz6yo My former employer provided two month notice before a lay off occurred. None of what you just said occurred. Stop talking out your, you know what.
@Tom-dz6yo I work for a major Airline , during Covid when everything shut down, they gave us about a month notice that they would need to lay off or take volunteers to go on unemployment not only that they told us the government paid protection pay will only last till Oct, so not everyone company does what Tesla did but for a rule of thumb it is good to assume that any company might do this to anyone
You think the layoffs are bad now, wait until he gets those Optimus robots finished and he finally only needs a handfull of human workers to keep the robots going!
That's what you get when consumers want cheaper product. People are complaining about cost of cars now days. Why do you think so many things are made in China even though they are not our allies.
My father said when I first started working “put 10% of your paycheck in a special account and never touch it till retirement” writing this from my hammock on the beach here in Costa Rica 🌴😎🌴
America is becoming like a third world country when it comes to owning cars. That is, only the rich people can afford cars. The monthly car payment is over $600 and, if you live in California, the insurance cost is about $350 per month (we just got 30% increase in premium), not to mention the gas price is about $5.50 per gallon. Owning cars has become so unaffordable. A lot of people are driving very old cars now.
That's what you get when UAW is killing the auto industry wanting more and more pay. Of course this make cars more expensive, so fewer people buy them, so car companies lay off workers. Unions kills competitiveness and drives their own extinction.
Do you like just making stuff up to fit your biases? Tesla sales were down, but overall EV sales actually increased by 35%. I have an EV and it's F'ing awesome! What's actually happening is Tesla is learning that they're not the biggest guy on the block anymore.
@@RedHeaded411A majority of automakers are slowing production of EVs or pulling back investment all together or putting it off for a couple of years. There are over 15 models of EVs from various automakers with over a 300 day supply of EVs. The demand is not there and the EV mandates will be overturned by the Supreme Court eventually.
@@arthurmorgan42069 tell me you don't know what you're talking about without telling me you don't know what your talking about. Again 2023 saw an increased in demand by over 35%. The year before that the increase was 7% from the year before. And they're not pulling back "investment," some are delaying production, but the reasons for this are varied, however, none are because of lack of demand. Again, stop with the fantasies. EV's are here to stay.
Sorry to burst your sheltered bubbles, but eventually it'll overtake gas vehicles. And quicker than u think. Imagine 10 years ago - when you saw an electric vehicle, it was a rarity. And most of the times a Tesla. In 10 years the tech evolved to such an extent that some electric cars are now at comparable prices to regular cars. But something tells me you guys can't process that or even have the brain capacity to imagine the next 10 years. It's ok - some always gets left behind. Or, if you're old and will be dead by the time the world becomes starved for gas, all the more power to you. :D
@@jyc313 Righttttt I guess that’s why China has literal electric car grave yards…. Gotta make them seem like they are catching on….bc they are not! If anything It will be FORCED on us just like social media was. My only question is what “perks” will be waved around to make it the new fad.
@@jyc313 There are many other far more practical ways to keep cars in motion. Electric vehicles overwhelming already stressed grids is not the key! Greed and exploitation is why they push it. Many ways to capitalize for profits. What’s ur excuse for following so ignorantly and blind?
Saw on TESLA worker say “his job was so easy” - and I finished his line by saying - “even a robot could do it!” - and well that robot 🤖 is now doing it - 3 shifts - no piss breaks - no strikes - no raises - no quiet quitting.
Companies should have to provide the same 2 weeks notice to employees being laid off that they want the employees to provide. Layoffs are terrible and no one wants them to happen but those same people being laid off might be needed again one day. Treat them with kindness and respect and they might just re-join the company when things are going better.
This is why people should have an emergency fund. It is not the company's responsibility to wait for you to find another job. At will employment goes both ways.
Don't feel bad, 2000 workers also got laid-off at tha Reno, NV factory, Tesla even had to charter shuttle busses to take people home, Reno aint a booming town no more 😢
I WORKED FOR KODAK FOR 45 YEARS, THEN IN 2010 THEY LAID US ALL OFF, THEN CLOSED THE BLDG, I WAS FINE AS I WAS GOING TO RETIRE THE NEXT YR, BUT I FELT BAD FOR THE OTHER PEOPLE.
Kodak could have been the red box of film. They let Sony and the cyber shot stuff (which was good) put that final nail in the coffin in the early 00`s.
But Kodak did it to themselves. They invented the digital camera years ago, but stuck with selling old school film and film cameras because they were selling well at that time They didn't get back into the digital camera game until it was too late and they went bankrupt. Now they are selling printers?
Elon Musk is NOT the saviour they thought huh? He's no different than the others. Nor should he be, it's business, and that is how it's done! Supply and demand. The outrageous price, is killing the (imaginary) demand. Out of the price range of the middle class who do most of the buying, so...........! People are waking up to the truth about EV's. It was bound to happen. It will be interesting to see what the next step is, to attack the middle class now. The next six years will be quite the ride. Buckle up!
@@ChicanoPhDfor someone with "PhD" (it's Ph.D, not PhD. You as a Ph.D are supposed to be informed of formal and informal abbreviation), you are frighteningly unaware of the Pygmalion effect. You also seem to only care about what the lamestream media reports. Weird how that works, I thought you Ph.D's and your socialist worshipping, were highly critical of that 1950's propaganda on TV. Weird how you flip the script and say "welp, I support the TV only right now!!". You're free to respond, I strongly discourage making yourself a clown any further.
You are always a temporary employee especially for at will states. I have been laid off fired or quit during my 25 years of working. Nothing surprises me. Actually I try to get 2-5 years out of my jobs then I bounce. I’m so immune to layoffs and firings but glad I’m resilient enough to keep it moving. It sucks for sure especially if you have a family with only a single income.
Sounds like he was let go given his stance of I have a life outside of work. My guess is he was one of the employees that did the bear minimum. With a career you need to stand out and make yourself an asset to the company to prevent being the first on the chopping block
This is the entire auto industry in a nutshell, from the assembly plant to the dealership. I knew I was getting laid off from a Toyota dealer I was working at and had already lined up a job at a Subaru dealer with more pay. I eventually left the auto industry and went on to work for a municipality which was the best move.
Yep! I would've sold as soon as Elon started selling his personal shares. He sold off 15 billion dollars worth of personal holdings last year while telling people to keep theirs. Gotta be kidding me, I would've been out right then.
Maybe it is time to buy Bruce? Look up 'dollar-cost averaging'. Stocks like this are still owned and will continue to be bought over time by the big $ guys Vanguard Group, Blackrock, State Street, and many others. Don't think Tesla is doomed.
@@Skank_and_Gutterboy Yea compare a company that actually makes a working product to a company that sold lies and never produced anything.... The mental gymnastics you must have gone through to come up with this conclusion....
@@Skank_and_Gutterboy Totally different business model and Tesla is proven where she sold nothing but lies. Just look on the roads to see they are all over and most who own a Tesla would buy another. The Tesla hate online are from those with low IQ’s.
What's even more shocking is they asked him to go to a different department and if he had chosen not to he probably would have still had his got him laid off
It takes about 10k in parts to produce a car at the factory. Just like it takes about 200 dollars to produce an iPhone. So consumers pay many times that
@@InsighterofTech - who said the average car price is reasonable or affordable for the average person. And $100k for a Cybertruck is a joke. Do your research before you spew crap fanboy.
I used to work at a therapeutic school and they got a new board. They all wanted to meet with the employees individually. The very first thing that came out of her mouth was “don’t worry I didn’t bring you in here to fire you”. By the end of the year 8 of us were fired because we displayed insubordination. My insubordination was not being willing to drive mentally disturbed kids in my Personal vehicle without having the company pay for my liability insurance. They wanted to to use my own car to drive kids round. Dont trust any employer
Yea, this is horrible! The irony is when u interview they want you to pledge your life to them! Tell them how great it would be to be a lowly employee. How u will never leave them!
EVs are a horribly overpromoted idea. Lack of range / inability to deal with hot climate that kills battery capacity / limited charging infrastructure are all deal breakers. They work ok for city dwellers who have garage parking with a charge port but what % of the overall market fits that model ? Maybe less than 10% ?
Because they haven’t gone full EV only and are their hedging their bets making EVs, hybrids, diesels and Petrol cars. Plus they’re also spending a lot of money on alternative power to electrical… that’s why they’re successful. Their CEO isn’t an idiot.
Because they're fundamentally very different. Tesla is a big company run like a start up... they don't want to have too many people. Toyota is just a big company and won't do lay offs unless they need too. Tesla isn't doing this because they need to money wise but rather for efficiency sake and that having too many people can slow down the company.
If you play close enough attention to the very industry you rely on one could see it coming. Tesla dropped prices 4 times in the last 8 months. !!! What comes next people.
Yep. A lot of companies have done that. Come to work and find out it is your last day. Either the whole company is shutting down or they’re just letting you go. Last year my job had a massive layoff. Some people were told the day before that the next day was their last day and other people were told on that day, it was their last day. I hated to see some of the people go, but some of them I was glad they left. One of the executives was let go and I believe she’s involved in a crime but of course I can’t prove it. It was her possibly illegal activity that caused the massive layoffs because the company’s ratings went down, which was a death nail for the company. Also, because of the same person, the company was fined $2 million and had a class action lawsuit filed against us. Two years ago, the company had over 100 employees. Now it’s around 30. The company had been in business for over 40 years and this one group of people basically destroyed it and that one executive made things even worse. She killed it
If you are getting laid off, how essential is your job really? That's the problem in this country, too many jobs being filled by those who want a chair to sit in. Too much fluff, not enough substance
For they grid doesant and no internal energy sources like built in solar,wind,hydrogen and such akak no means to recharge by itself independently akak money making scheme Tesla and all of Elons companies used for years!!!!
This is why me and my wife took the chance and started our own food manufacturing business 26 yrs ago, we did live in our van for 9 months to get the business going. We are doing just fine now thank God.
I’ve always given 2 weeks..except once…went in at 5am..loaded my toolbox and left them with no maintenance man…big bosses went scurrying to back where my toolbox was and found nothing….served them right….terrible place…love my job now…People there have worked there many years…great place…😊😊.
I got unexpectedly laid off from my oil field job TWICE. Once in 2016 and 2020 when c19 hit. Been working for myself the last 4 years. Id rather put faith in myself vs a corp who will pull the rug from underneith me at moments notice.
It should be a law to at least inform the people. This country is so so wicked!😡. Corporations get to do what ever they want because Congress is being paid off so Congress gets rich and the people suffer AND THEY DO NOT CARE!
I never showed loyalty to anyone place after I worked when shortly after college I was a research assistant and was asked to mentor a student. In actuality he was my replacement. Never again
Please don’t speak for *us* AND DEFINITELY DON’T SPEAK FOR *ME* ! I want an EV - actually two, when it’s time to replace our ICE’s. But we, like so many others, choose to wait and not buy *any* new car at this time. All new car sales are down. It is a downturn in the whole new car industry and has *zero* to do with which technology.
@@JCMustang so the fallen sales since 2018 means nothing either? car sales across the board have fallen almost 50% in the last 5 years. but hey what do i know right. i live off facts you live off feelings.
The employer doesn't Care! They are worried about the stock holders! Not too many people are buying EVs! They cost too much, and there's no infrastructure! You do the math!!
Don’t be naive, what happens when that employee getting let go starts sabotaging the quality of the work there for hurting the company, stop thinking like an employee!!
@@nickmora2544 1 just because they give an employee notice, doesn't mean the employee has to maintain the same permissions. the employee can be relegated to other tasks, or simply told they'll be paid for the next two weeks, but their official last day is coming. 2 most employees are not in a position to sabotage a company. a line worker at a tesla can't bring down the whole company. 3 employees who resign can also have an attitude of sabotage, so it has nothing to do with being given notice, but more so their character. 4 most employees like their employers and hope to be able to come back, especially if they've been there for years. just because you're laid off doesn't mean you're ineligible for rehire at a different position. 5 just like with 30 days notice to vacate after not paying rent, the tenant can try to break things, and he will be sued.
I guess they had to clear room for that $56 billion compensation package for Musk. Would you rather have 700,000 workers making $80k, or Elon and his hair plugs?
Remember - like a baseball manager or football coach - you are hired to be fired. The Job Quality Index has collapsed - all on the way to universal automation. No medical, no dental, no 401K, no pensions, no full-time, no sick days, call in sick and you drop down to minimum wage, hire/fire, insufficient training and then you get fired for being unable to the work, on-the-spot terminations, no rehiring, 15-minute lunch periods, no coffee breaks, back one minute late from lunch and you're fired, no pay raises, no promotions, no rehire of temps when assignments end, endless outsourcing, below minimum wage under the table. The ultimate goal of each employer is to pocket 85% of all profits, remove all employee benefits, relegate all employees to part-time - all on the road to 100% automation.
