so fucking much. It would have been easy to make Sonic stop talking when receiving the hit, and I actually thought he had done it, but when you rewatch and notice that part, god, I really love these videos.
Shadow's bullying sure traumatizes a lot of folks. It's pretty funny to think that all of Forces could have been avoided if Shadow hadn't beaten Infinite up.
@@jonsku6662 facts, Bruce Wayne has the dough to get a Psych degree; Sonic is woefully under-qualified to handle this situation. Shame there aren't any colleges that accept rings, we could always use more case workers.
Also ADHD is not mental illness! No neurodivergent condition is a mental illness. They are neurodevelopmental disorders that can cause mental health problems.
Yeah. And if you do have it, Adderall is also non-addictive. It just mitigates the dopamine deficiency, so we're able to form some fucking habits and execute plans without being distracted immediately by the first impulse we get.
@@MisterSpeedStacking No joke this is literally how I was diagnosed with ADHD. I went to the doctor and said I thought I had ADHD, they went 'take this adderall every day and report back in a week if you're fixed'
Adderall making people high doesn't suddenly invalidate their ADHD, all it says is that Adderall isn't a good prescription for them, each person responds to treatment differently.
I thought Sonic was gonna be like “Yeah, well Shadow framed me for crimes I didn’t commit and then tried to kill me, but you don’t see be going around killing people!” (referencing SA2)
It's funnier when you realize that Silver is genuinely telepathic so when he's on the floor he is just lying there in pain from how insane the situation is LOL
I mean Sonic said he's also a neurodivergent minor, and Infinite attacked him, so Infinite can't try to make Sonic look bad for attacking him without making himself look bad.
{@@felipecosta-kv2fxhis age was de-canonized i'm pretty sure, the only updated official source on it (japanese sonic website) delisted the character ages. but said source _always_ said he was 16, and even one of the oldest sources on his age, Sonic Jam, says he's 16. since his age was decanonized though, and considering how much his personality and appearance has evolved, and how many adventures he's gone through? not to mention he had a birthday in Sonic Generations and was _still_ canonically 16 afterward until that was delisted? i headcanon sonic as an adult, there's no way he's not by now. especially with how much tails appears to have been aged up, from a young child to literally looking indistinguishable in age from the rest of the cast (so like, at _least_ a teenager? which would go from 8 to 13, a five year change).}
Infinite grindset: -Gets beaten by Shadow once -Sells himself to Eggman -Gets most over the top pretentious name possible -Starts wearing Tokyo Ghoul cosplay -Gains power to do literally anything, uses it to throw red cubes at Sonic and some random kid -"I'm not weak!" -Dies
I'm sincerely impressed with Sonic Team's ability to make a villain that was _so_ pathetic he looped all the way around from forgettable back to unforgettable.
@@benjaminoechsli1941Tbh isn’t that the point in a way? He’s literally a loser given the ability to enable any of his delusions, and as such becomes this pretentious personality that’s so fake that losing the means to perpetuate his false strength destroys him alongside the unoriginal copies of other villains he rules over since by that point he was so lost in the delusion his original self was erased to support his god complex. His final mentions are in the facility that gets destroyed and offscreen as countless clones made by Eggman, his individuality well and truly stripped as he’s reduced to army fodder post mortem, proving that despite his insistence he was special and not weak, he was always the same generic grunt he was in the prologue. It’s like the perfect reflection of narcissists; the moment their source of validation is erased, you see how fake they are, alongside the image of themselves they try and force into the world. Forces’ writing may be god awful, but I honestly think Infinite’s character at the very least made sense.
@@KingC89>sees there's something clearly wrong with them compared to others >uses certified tests that medical professionals use to figure out Random person that barely knows them: "yOu ArE fAkInG iT fOr AtTeNtIoN" Mw they want to have LESS attention but gain attention because of clearly not fucking passing as a normal person There's as much benefit to faking adhd as there to faking diabetes
I actually played a video game once where the heroes split into two groups at one point, and the villains make up some news articles about both hero groups suddenly doing evil things, and each group somehow only sees the article about the other group. Both groups completely believe that the other has gone rogue just because they read it on internet, and they immediately go fight and almost kill each other.
"I have trauma." "Okay. Silver here? Literally comes from a wrecked future, where everyone he knows and loves is dead, because of a calamity YOU caused! And by the way, Shadow? He watched a girl who was basically his sister get gunned down by the military!"
I like how Infinite's personality feels like it's just him poorly copying Shadow's personality while exaggerating it in the same time. Similiar to the actual Infinite
Sonic: So like...did a doctor even diagnose you with neurodivergence or? Infinite: Of course rodent. Sonic: Okay, well at least you have a leg to stand on ther- hey wait a minute was the doctor that diagnosed you Eggman? Infinite: ...I will not confirm or deny such an assumption. Sonic: Dammit, he's not a real doctor! Infinite: Then how did he diagnose me with "eternal minor syndrome?" Sonic: That's not how minors or diagnoses work.
Sonic: "But Eggman's a doctor in robotics, not mental health!" Infinite: "Don't forget his doctorate in women's studies." Sonic: "Women's studies? But he has captured Amy a handful of times!" Infinite: "He also has mental illness." Sonic: "That's still not a viable shield from critisism!"
@@iananderson4754 No, they allow other mentally ill people to harass me without any resistance. The answer is always that "they can't control themselves", but that excuse can only get you so far.
30 year old with diagnosed ADD and Autism for about...20 years? Ballpark, anyways. Agreed. It's stupid. These self diagnosing morons make any stigma against mental illnesses worse.
@@TheKpa11I think it would work to make them incredibly unlikable, and that's a good thing for villains cause it makes you want them to fail. Make that one of the villain's manipulation tactics, and just one of the moving parts rather than the whole character, and you might get a good villain.
@@simonweaver8846 Too easy I’d say, just feels like a villain of the week at that point. Especially for Sonic But when you fail at writing a more in depth villain constantly, succeeding in simplicity feels refreshing Much like when a new Sonic content drops and if it’s “good” it’ll 180 perceptions from the masses
The Dark Knight came close to doing something like that with Joker. Not blatantly fake stories, but he kept contradicting himself whenever he would tell stories about his facial scars, signalling to the audience that his word could not be trusted at all.
@@callmevbuck4054 It's crazy how different things make me go "wow, it's only been [X] years?" and others make me go "wow, it's already been [X] years?" That... that's the latter. 👴
@rossman8919 Not necessarily. Juggernaut has joined before, and his powers are magical in nature, not mutant. And Spider-Man was invited to join once, but he declined, although in his case, he is often mistaken for a mutant.
@@Pearl_Blossom I'm sure that Infinite's backstory is not supposed to be geniunly tragic, but rather to show how petty he is (His "tragedy" being defeated by Shadow and then throwing a temper tantrum about it)
@@jebkerman5422If your counterargument is that Doofenshmirtz is being given a free pass to do bad things because of his past, take this into account: Doofenshmirtz tells Perry what happened to cause any particular scheme he's in the middle of, and then Perry eventually destroys the machine/disrupts those plans. The issue is then put to rest, and Doofenshmirtz never attempts anything related to it again. Perry the Platypus is basically Doofenshmirtz's therapist... that _also_ repeatedly causes property damage and physically fights his patient.
As an autistic man myself, people who shield themselves with it to excuse their actions is gross, especially if it's something not even related to autism. I don't get social cues sometimes cause of it and just the other day I mentioned the naming bit about Sonic X Shadow Generations when I shouldn't have, but I make sure to not repeat my mistakes and own up to them.
Shadow: has trauma brought on by witnessing the death of the one person closest to his heart. Infinite: has trauma brought on a swift beatdown by Shadow. Shadow: He thought he could take me out as the "Ultimate Mercenary"... Infinite: You destroyed my squad! Shadow: You worked for the Doctor. Infinite: Didn't you?! Shadow: I was misguided before. Now I know my real purpose: to protect this planet Maria loved unconditionally. Infinite: Maria? Who's that? *Shadow's fist clenches* Infinite: ...no, seriously? Who's Maria?
Phew Glad you were here Because none of us could have enjoyed it without your approval Good thing you just had to tell everyone on the Internet first. Lucky us
God, twitter brainrot has gotten to me so much that I started thinking of what he'd say ahead of time. I expected terms like "minor-coded" or "child-passing." to come up.
@@user-nx1wv2ws6r Ah, but that’s the thing about trauma isn’t it? The mind may forget but the body remembers? Maybe he can still be trigger by things without understanding why or how, it just is.
I dunno, being bullied by literally anyone else in Sonic universe would be a more traumatic experience than being bullied by Shadow. The guy is professional and honestly a giant softie under all that exterior, if he says that you're bad, he isn't bullying, he is stating a fact. Imagine being bullied by Amy on the other hand 💀
Sonic: "Y'know what? I'm actually gonna start advocating for a cure for everything you just described just because you keep using it as an excuse for your murderous rampage!"
The identity fad that is going on is really getting out of hand. I get this is satire, but even still. It seems as though some people think that posting an autobiography makes detestable actions and being a bad person suddenly okay. You can identify as whatever you want. Be a tomato for all I care (please don't allow people to legally identify as tomatoes on government IDs), but scapegoating trauma and mental illness to avoid accountability needs to stop. Also, treating our young adults and adolescents as little children is definitely not helping. We keep moving the goalpost on the age of adulthood. 18, then 21, then 25... What, are we going to have to be 30 to start being responsible for ourselves? I'm sick of the infantilization of our young adults and adolescents. They don't need coddling, they need mature advice and to be allowed to handle their own affairs instead of being perpetually dependent and irresponsible while being fed the narrative that they're just too young to do anything. Most of the soldiers on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day were 18-35 years old with the average age being 26. Minors have been known to lie about their age to go to war back then. Think about that.
I used to know someone in a Discord group who would blame all his wrongdoing on the "autism he got from video games". Literally, that's what he said at least twice. 1. that was untrue and probably ableist, 2. I and another friend in the Discord actually do have autism, and we've never done anything close to what he was doing, and never would've just because we're neurodivergent. People who are genuinely like this are sickening.
- Eggman, wife incident and other major mischief - Da Devil From Da Bibble, gaslighting and trying to overtake Hell - Memphis Tennessee, dating gone wrong
I knew someone like this who was only actually a year younger than me but always his behind the "I'm baby" excuse. As she got older she shifted strategies to the "I'm autistic" excuse. She was easily one of the most genuinely evil people I've ever personally known and it's crazy to think abt it in hindsight. Hope she got actual help instead of lynching anyone she didn't vibe with
Thing is if you think about it, sonic is literally one of the most traumatize characters in the franchise. He's been through a thousand near-death experiences, he's been tortured by Eggman multiple times, and also the metal virus arc in the comics was horrific, in which he couldn't sleep for probably weeks due to having to run off his infection _and_ while blaming himself for not being able to save everyone. Mind you the metal virus happens right during their recovery in the aftermath of the Forces war, _in which Sonic was kept prisoner and probably tortured for six months_ So yeah. If anyone has a green card for snapping, it's Sonic.
Sonic: Most people who get bullied don't end up killing people Infinite: Some of them do... Like me. (I thought Infinite's ability in this skit was going to be cancel culture getting to Sonic or gaslighting becoming reality, lol)
I was really hoping he would just off handedly mention his entire gang also being dead before brushing it off and hyper focusing on shadow calling him weak
I'm in the same classroom as one of these people, and as someone who recently lived in a mental health clinic for a month because of how wrong everything in my life feels, and someone who has owned a severe disability pass since the age of 9, you have no idea how much the mere word "neurodivergent" has grown to hurt me.
You mean you're in a situation where people only accept disorders such as autism, anxiety, or depression when expressed in a societally acceptable way. Right?
