It baffles me too, although it does offer much better visuals than most other sim racing titles _if_ you can afford to turn those settings up. However, when you turn the settings down to get stable frames and good performance it just looks terrible with things such as objects popping in and out poorly, bad blurring and some kind of dithering effect on the foliage and decals which make it look super grainy too. Hard pass from me, even on desktop mode, ACC just feels off which makes me rather sad because it has the potential to be amazing 😢 I mean, I even did an 8hr race and 9hr race last year to properly see if I could get used to it but I've not had the inspiration to start it up again since.
I think a lot of people just assume that a top of the range card will solve every issue but, that's often not the case. It turns out that some software just isn't optimised well so it doesn't really matter what kind of hardware you throw at it unfortunately. The ones that _are_ optimised well though...wow, they're just a treat to experience 👌
That's awesome dan. Even if it's not good value for money, still nice to have a new toy 😁 and hopefully there's a bit more peace of mind for you in terms of being able to run things reliably. Next thing might be to upgrade the HMD? I found even without changing anything else, I got a massive improvement in experience going from Vive to reverb G2. Just a vastly better image, even with the same or similar settings.
Oh man, since all of the recent upgrades the rig hasn't skipped a beat 😍 so thank you again for that! Video processing and rendering times are much better now too so I can get through my editing much quicker and spend more time enjoying myself instead of just doing the backend stuff on the channel that nobody really sees. Interesting observation about the HMD though 🤔 I might have to look into that since the Oculus is nearly 5 years old now and probably due an upgrade too at some point. The biggest hassle about that would be making a new sticker though...
It was interesting to hear you open this piece with "for the cost it does not stack up" but close with "it really has made the encoding, recording so much more seem-less..." i think you can justify your expenses right there... This is great content, review and insight.... i was thinking of a GPU upgrade but given i am happy with current setup this piece has confirmed for me there is no point unless running triples or VR which at the moment i do not. More time to save those pennies.. Thank you Dan
Happy to be of use 😎 especially if it helps you make a sound financial decision! Like I said, these things definitely aren't cheap right now so you need to really consider if it's worth it or not 👍 and for most people, unless they're running super demanding hardware like you mentioned, it's really not going to help out. Looking forward to hearing about what you decide to upgrade instead 😉
I don't know how can you put that thing on your head so close to your eyes and watch the gameplay. I would never play like that, it's also not good for your eyes. Btw nice upgrade 😀
Oh man, I can't race without VR anymore, it's an absolute game changer in the most literal sense of the phrase. I must admit I did have concerns about my eyes too but after nearly 5 years of exclusively using that headset my prescription hasn't changed a bit so can confirm no lasting damage 😉 although I am running custom lens inserts with my prescription and a blue light filter. Also a good idea to wash the foam pieces regularly too 🥵
6:16 The cause for this isn't usually a GPU bottleneck, it's usually a CPU bottleneck. The CPU handles not only the game logic and physics, but also the online encoding. Most online games these days don't have this issue, but sim racing titles are know to be rather old and built on old engines, back in the 4 core era, so they only utilise part of the CPU, no matter if its a 4 or 16 core chip. Your R7 3700X is good but the new Zen3 chips (ie 5600X or 5900X) offer significant IPC (instructions per clock) gains and improvements to the infinity fabric (how the Zen chip let's talk to eachother). I noticed an improvement in games going from my 3700X to a 5900X. With the biggest improvements being in CPU limited titles and in VR where the CPU is more heavily utilised. TL:DR - Upgrade to a 5900X when you can 😂
That makes a lot of sense 🤔 and I would have thought that the new AMD CPU would have been enough of a bump over my old Intel but seems like more power is needed to be able to get rid of that drop in performance when going online. To be fair though, it's not terrible in the slightest now, but it certainly is noticeable.
In the meantime, I bought a used GTX 1050 2GB a few months ago because my old GTX 660 3GB died.... and I need just something. But end of the year, I really want to get a good low/mid-range graphics card like a... RTX 3050 or so...
The market is still ridiculous at the moment with hardly any new components available, it's the same for sim racing in general too. So many rigs, wheels, pedals etc are out of stock so it's just a case of being able to find something that will make do 👍 trust me, I would have kept on running my old 1080 for another few years if I had the option and kept those extra dollars in my pocket 😅
Interesting - your experience does go some way to reinforcing my own opinion, that AC is the most versatile platform out there, and because of that, there are new players all the time for it. If iRacing toxicity is putting you off, I'd love to see you going down some AC rabbit holes and finding yourself some enjoyable car/track combos, and showing how you got there. Whenever I raced online, if the organiser pulled an absolute blinder in combo - either unexpected or lesser used (or both) - those were always the best races. Practice was fun, racing even more so. Now I'm almost exclusively offline, I still try and find those rarefied unicorn combos, and when it comes off, it's SOOOOOO satisfying. Showing new players the process and possibilities could be really valuable - there's more than GT3 at Spa out there...
For some reason it took me forever to actually try AC for the first time, last December to be specific. No particular reason, I just never prioritised it really...but now I feel like I missed the boat on this one _big time_ mate! The scope for replay-ability is absolutely massive and, as long as one actually enjoys the driving itself, then it'll take a long time to get bored 😁 especially in VR with the Patreon version of CSP and Sol which feature the advanced weather and rain. On a side note, and old track that I made in rF1 (Circuit Thermalito) has just been converted over to AC so I can see myself making that the 'official test track' of the channel, for want of a better phrase. Can't wait to try out all sorts of cars and _really_ see what AC has to offer!
@@DDFRacer OK, so that is freaky - when I ran one of the racing clubs at RD, I used Thermalito for the rF1 Caterham mod in several events, because they had mega slipstreams and they were really good fun round there. I'll give you a 10 years delayed thank you and high five.👍 If I'm recalling it correctly, it has a bit of everything, so it would be a compelling, and pretty well balanced, test bed.
Couldn't agree more John, at a much cheaper price the card would definitely be worth it 👍 but at the moment people are better off waiting. I mean, I wish I could have waited, but my old dying 1080 had other ideas...
I was able to get my EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING card within a couple of weeks of initial launch last fall at the original $800 U.S.D. MSRP price. I would hate to think I had paid over double that amount for one! I personally do not think any GPU would be worth close to $2000 for my uses anyway.
@@billwiley7216 That’s cool. I was going to go that route. I signed up to get notified for all of the evga cards and still haven’t gotten an email from them to this day.
Welcome to the fold brother! I got my RTX 3080 back in December before the crazy price inflation and its been amazing. Now you need to upgrade your VR headset 😂
ACC actually is bottlnecked by CPU as well. I made a lot of tests in it (comparing fps in fpsVR) and found that lowering graphycal settings does not increase FPS in VR. You can turn down everything and fps only grows 2-3% compering to EPIC, only GPU utilization drops. 3080 with old 6700K(not overclocked) can handle EPIC settings with 160% VR pixel density on Pimax headset. But. As soon as you strat adding cars on the grid performance drops significantly. CPU time grows and you can do nothing. Only setting minimum quality for mirrors helps a little and limiting visible cars. In hotlap you can get good clear picture, but in race - impossible. And even on 160% of pixel dencity ACC looks like... I do not know... It hase a lot of flickering on vegetation and small objects, shadows appearing and dissapearing under opponent cars, track objects popping out of nowhere. It brings a lot of distruction in VR immersion. In R3E or rFactor picture is far more crisp and calm on much lower settings.
I went from a 1080ti to a MSI Suprim RTX 3070 if i am honest I am not sure it was worth it for sim racing titles, VR is a non starter for me as I lost the sight in my right eye, old age & diabetes :(
Oh mate, sorry to hear that! I'm sure if you decided to get triple screens then the 3070 would be well worth it, but if not then it's at least future proofing you for when the next generation of racing sims are released or the current ones are upgraded with newer (and more demanding) visuals 👍
Nice one mr DDF! i think u need to give AMS2 another try ... the driving experience has greatly changed .... for the good. plus i use the custom FFB file [rfuktor] with a G29 ... game changing imho.
Oh I definitely want to give AMS2 another try 👍 it's been on my to-do list for a while, especially with the most recent updates that everyone has been talking about, but I just haven't gotten around to it for one reason or another. When I first tried AMS2 it looked super pretty but the AI would break and there was just something about the physics/FFB I couldn't quite put my finger on, but it just didn't sit right. Although I remember that Caterham race at Cadwell rather fondly as I'm sure you do too 😉
i remember that well ! ...crazy. many of the things that broke the game have been addressed ... but certain cars/tracks haven't. i recommend the classic mini/ginettas/gte/gt4 bmw/ formula vee... amongst many others. but please install/use the rFuctor ffb plugin ...
Like Raceroom, ACC is also very dependent on single threaded performance especially in VR. I had to upgrade from a 3900x to 5800x before I could get a constant 90fps in my G2 (+3090). And even then I had to decrease the number of cars visible to ~18, reduce foliage, and have low quality mirrors. All seem to be very CPU hungry.
Same goes for rF2, AC and of course AMS1. The best multithreading-optimized sims are AMS2 and Project Cars 2. Then probably ACC (it's still very single-thread limited, but at least can take advantage of more threads than just one or two the other sims are using).
You're definitely not the first person to mention this, and I'm sure you won't be the last either, but I honestly had no idea that ACC was so CPU limited. I was always under the impression from what I'd seen around the forums and what other racers had told me that GPU was king when it came to making this sim look good and run smooth 🤔 but happy to be proven wrong and it would certainly explain why I was still having issues.
@@DDFRacer Don't get me started on what people regularly claim on forums compared to what the reality actually is... ;) But ACC in particular is a pretty complicated case, since it kinda needs all things combined and depending on the setup, your bottleneck might vary. But it will often be your CPU's single threaded performance, provided you're not running a resolution/detail settings that are way too ambitious for your GPU. Also Raceroom technically does run multithreaded, it doesn't use just one thread, but the one main one (similar to ACC or rF2) is the one that limits your overall performance the most, and it could certainly be improved a lot in this regard (but probably not while it's still DirectX 9). It technically uses around 2.5 to 3 threads if I remember correctly (it's been a while since I last tested it and all sims are constantly evolving, obviously). And the most performance limiting option in Raceroom in my experience is the number of visible cars - I've always used the downhill section at Spa from La Source towards Eau Rouge as a sort of stress test for this, it's one of the most demanding spots on any Raceroom track as far as my PC is concerned, at least.
Happy for u with that 3080 Enjoy, I have all the Sims and ACC is the only one that graphics look so mixed feeling for me on EPIC setting 3440x1440 there are some stuttering moments also some textures feel cheap , draw distance unnatural overall compared to Raceroom and ACorsa the AcorsaCompetizione feels un finished .
I definitely agree with you on the way ACC feels and looks 👍 the way details pop in/out is almost like a grainy fade effect which just looks really cheap and ruins the immersion in VR. Assetto Corsa continues to blow my mind though, wow, that sim is incredible. I really need to spend more time in it...
@@DDFRacer i started beta test the raceroom it was deifferent game back then that we only had rfactor and gtr2 ... But now Raceroom and Assetto corsa are my favorite. Honestly when racero came out i didnt like the payment method , but now knowing that i buy something and i get full support for just on game with ffb graphics sounds menu updates .... Yeah its better than have to buy PC1 PC2 PC3 rfactor 1 ,2. Etch etch or devs stop supporting the race game. So i think raceroom payment is the best.
interesting video. But the most interesting was the footage from Thermalito in AC 😃👍 And I'm glad you can play some Dirt Rally 2 now. I took me 3 months of tweaking and testing drivers before I could get it running at all in VR with the reverb G2 and RTX2080. the VR performance is really bad in DR2 but I got it running pretty good now. But man it takes a lot of testing with settings, and then record the footage on top is so hard on the system 😅
I found the same thing too mate 🤔 when setting up this new card I couldn't really do anything productive for a few days since most of the time was spent checking my settings and doing test recordings, so I know exactly what you mean about tweaking and testing! Once you get those settings dialled in though it's rather nice to enjoy the new visuals and not worry about framerates any more...although I've heard that Flight Simulator is the ultimate test of any graphics card 😉
The Quest 2 is a really good upgrade for sim racing. I had a CV1 before and the ASW and frame interpolation is way less stuttery than the CV1, especially with the quest in 120hz mode. And despite having a much higher resolution it doesn't take that much more to run it, I still use most of the same settings with just a tweak here and there. It still is hit and miss on the games it works well on, but the extra clarity still makes every game better.
That's pretty interesting 🤔 I would have thought that running higher resolution and frame rate would have dropped the performance quite significantly and that's why I've not really thought too much about upgrading from the CV1. Although I guess now that I have the extra horses it could be worthwhile...although it doesn't matter what I do, the potential upgrade list never seems to get any shorter 😅
@@DDFRacer The resolution and framerate does take more to run but you can change it from 72 80 90 and 120hz. But the asw works so much better that on games that I can't run 80 or 90hz I put it in 120hz mode and it'll run in asw at 60 and it's not really noticeable.
Hi DDF nice video. It is recommended to turn off gpu acceleration in win 10 ,found in Start/settings/Xbox game tab/(Top right) graphic settings / (top left) GPU acceleration Turn it off. Also while there turn off game mode setting, it’s under the GPU Acceleration tap.
It's a very good increase in performance 🤩 although the price wasn't too nice unfortunately. Thankfully I didn't have to pay the ridiculous overinflated 'scalper' prices but still, the market for new graphics cards is completely out of whack at the moment.
I hope you have a good pc example i 7 ore i 9 with a good processor then works youre card perfectly. In august /september is the price better, while new things are comming out.
Another DANdy! Great comments on changes between cards what each games has done well over time. Any chance your gonna do similar video for fav flight sims?
I see what you did there Paul 😉 and I would say the chance of a flight sim vid is approximately 0.01% only because of the fact that I don't do any flight sim at all, it's just not my thing...although plenty have people have suggested it, but the sim racing takes up nearly all of my free time anyway to be honest 👍
3080 use about 70watts squeezing out that last 1-3% performance, so undervolt that sucker (unlike a 1080 where you want to overclock), most people report either tiny or no performance loss for cooler, quieter and less power usage.
Interesting video! I wonder why your system struggles with ACC so much. I run a 3700X and a RTX 3070 and can max out the setting no prob in pancake mode (never tried VR tho).
Yeah it's an odd one 🤔 perhaps there are some tweaks to the ini or json files that I need to have a look at, but it's certainly a little concerning when it stutters mid lap unpredictably. VR is super intensive though and ACC has always been known to be pretty poorly optimised when it comes to racing on a headset.
At the risk of exposing myself as newbie here If 1080 had continued working would have used the $$$ to upgrade your g29 or were you happy with rig as is?
Nothing newbie about that at all, it's actually a great question! I was always looking to upgrade my GFX card at some point so would have probably just saved up the money and bought a 3080 eventually 👍 it's been a limiting factor for a while now, especially since it prevented me from actually using DIRT Rally 2.0 in VR at all. Although that said my main sim, RaceRoom, hasn't really had a noticeable bump so you could argue I didn't really need a 3080 after all 🤔 in which case I would have perhaps spent the money on a better webcam or DSLR for those pro looking video shots you see the top level bloggers/RU-vidrs use. My current one has developed an intermittent habit of cutting out mid-race which is rather annoying...
@@DDFRacer thank for the reply. Hopefully as channel grows you keep getting opportunities to upgrade rig. Will you be getting csl dd. Noticed you rig has slowly embraced the brand.
I've been running a 1080GTX since .. well .. 5 minutes before the 2080 was announced (grr), and as much as I'd love to upgrade, the card I would like is currently $2749, and that is not something I can justify, as my card is not glitching or dying at present, even though I've just upgraded (by necessity) to 4K main monitor to go along with my triples.
It's not really a cost I could have justified either but it was either that or put the channel on hold for a while 😬 and you know me, I can't _not_ go sim racing! Prices are just ridiculous across the board right now though mate, hopefully it calms down again in the future so we can all treat ourselves to some much needed upgrades.
@@DDFRacer You are 100% right about the silly GPU prices at present. I'd like to upgrade, and I could afford it, I just choose not to at this stage. Once prices come back down to a reasonable level, I will likely build a new PC as this one is 8 years old now, and no matter what I do to the graphics card, the CPU will likely be the bottle neck. Despite it being 8 years old, it runs 4K flawlessly, and it handles the triples (3 x 1080 @ 144Hz) no sweat. Really want to ditch the triples and get a 49" ultrawide too ;-)
You need a new VR headset. As much as I hate my Reverb G2 and the WMR bull sh*t. It’s whole other ball game and worth the upgrade. I came from a CV1, holy crap is it a different experience. The 3080 should do pretty good with something like the G2. Since I got my G2 last December I’ve been running it with an 8700k and 2080ti. It’s just not enough power but still a much better VR experience then the CV1 (visually) I just got a 3080ti a few weeks ago and ordered a 5900x. I’m doing a dedicated sim racing build. I’m really looking to push the G2 as much as I can. It’s just so beautiful and color is stunning compared to the CV1.
I shall be using my Oculus CV1 until it gives out completely 😉 after this upgrade, my new webcam/camera and the CSL DD wheelbase which is arriving in September there are absolutely no funds left whatsoever for upgrades in the next year at least. I wouldn't mind a new headset and am sure the sharpness would be a nice improvement but no point torturing myself about something that I can enjoy for a while 😅
This is why I feel so lucky to have gotten a brand new gaming PC literally a month before all this nonsense started. 2080 super is an affordable sweet spot!
You shouldn't _feel_ lucky, you _are_ lucky 😉 make sure you look after it well! But in all seriousness nobody could have really known just how much the prices were going to jump. If they could have known then the stock of cards would have been wiped out with people making sure they got one and the prices would have gone up anyway.
I run Assetto Corsa in 1080 on a 32inch 60Hz HP monitor and all I do is hotlap. My 1070 GTX runs at 90+ FPS so I see no reason to upgrade. The rest of my hardware is quite good and I have most settings at max. No WAY I am going to buy a new GPU for a good while.
Couldn't agree more mate, for what you're doing there's no point in upgrading at all 😎 maybe if you switched to VR or triples perhaps you might drop a few frames but at the moment you're _much_ better off saving the money and upgrading something more worthwhile.
It's amazing what some of the modern sims can put out in terms of visual quality, especially Assetto Corsa when it's modded up to the eyeballs 🤩 can't say I can relate to Outrun Arcade though, Geoff Crammond's Grand Prix was more my thing 😉
I dont get why you still seem to have issues with Dirt Rally 2, especially with the newer 3080. The only thing I can think is that the AMD CPU you have is the reason. I have seen a fair few people on an AMD Ryzen chip struggle. My old system, which I used when I last spoke about Dirt Rally 2, had an i7 6700k in it. And my current system is a 10700k based system. Dirt Rally 2 runs great in VR for me, and looks good as well. Back when you first tried Dirt Rally 2 in VR, I remember posting some tips to help you out with it. At the time I used a GTX 1080 as well, and to this day I can not understand why your performance was so bad with that GPU in Dirt Rally 2 in VR. Yet I had it fairly high on settings and got a rock solid 90FPS in a Rift CV1. What I can say though, is that these settings are the major problems settings in Dirt Rally 2.0. Either on a monitor or in VR. Crowds - This REALLY needs to be set to low. In fact, Crowds needs to be set to low in any Codemasters EGO engine game. So Dirt and F1. It causes FPS drops and stutters all the time, and its the biggest issue in any EGO engine title. Night Light - Also needs to be set to low. It sucks performance in places where it really shouldnt. No idea why. Vehical Details - This one also needs to be set to low, at least in VR. It causes weird stutters when the cars lights are turned on, so low light/night/rain driving. Screen Space Reflections - This is the major FPS killer in VR, this one NEEDS to be turned off. No matter what GPU you use. There is a set of graphical options at the bottom of the page, these should all be set to "replay only". I know play on an RTX 2070 super now, and if I set these settings as described; I can run the game maxed out on all the other settings in VR. I can even get it to run a stable 120fps on a quest 2 via link if I drop the shadows and reflections to medium, while leaving everything else maxed out. I will actually be joining you in the RTX 3080 club in a couple of days time, I just pulled the trigger on a 12gb Asus Tuf Gaming 3080. Good video as always, hope some of the suggestions for Dirt Rally 2 help you out. Edit: P.S I dont know about you, but I always run in Oculus mode with Dirt Rally 2 (and any VR title that allows it). SteamVR's performance through Oculus isnt always the best. Especially in Dirt Rally 2.0. If you use the OpenVR plugin inside OBS to capture footage, I can understand why. But where possible, I find it more resource friendly to use Oculus Mirror instead.
Thanks for the tips, I'll double check my settings against those recommendations and do some more testing 😉 although I've been having less troubles recently recording DIRT Rally 2.0 content for my monthly championship. The oculus mirror is definitely the way to go, along with using Administrator mode in Streamlabs so that the final 5-10% of the GPU aren't used up by the game and can be used for encoding instead, which avoids the horrible stutters and drops I used to experience.
@@DDFRacer i would highly suggest swapping to OBS studio and using Nvenc encoding. The rtx 2000 and rtx 3000 cards have a really good dedicated video encoder on them, which takes the strain off the cpu. Highly beneficial if you play and stream from the same pc. OBS studio is also updated more frequently, and is the original and true version of OBS. Streamlabs is a branched off path of OBS studio by a different group. Alpha gaming, a really good RU-vidr and livestreamer has an amazing video on 1 pc gaming and streaming setups, and i believe they compare rtx nvenc encoding to cpu encoding on the same system in one of their videos. The quality of the video is comparable to cpu encoding at this point.
@@SongDesire Already using NVENC for my videos and streams and have been doing so for years 👍 having CPU encoding always had terrible results for me so was never really an option. Started out on OBS originally and made the switch a couple of years ago since my overlays never seemed to sync up for some reason, or at least had very frequent issues with chat/notifications etc. I've considered switching back from Streamlabs but time is super limited these days due to reasons outside of sim racing/making RU-vid content so might be a while if I decide to migrate back 😉 not too far up the priority list at the moment.
Hi Dan that's a really useful vid 🙂👍 as i only use vr and was or have been thinking about ACC .I have a 2080 so was looking for info as to how it runs so may be give it a miss . Thought that I had fps issues after Raceroom update but found the opposite after I found that steam windows and navidia had all dropped updates at the same time? 🤔 so everything needed resetting. Just a thought but frame stuttering doesn't just look bad can make you feel motion sick if new to vr and also laggs all your steering inputs and not just in terms your visual reaction time .Have you any thoughts on AMS2 ? not just the visual but ffb etc ? cheers 👍
Hey Stephen 👋 glad you found it useful mate! If you're mostly VR then I would say that ACC isn't worth it really, even with a ridiculously powerful card like the RTX 3080, which pains me to say since the way ACC does GT3 and GT4 racing is probably the best out there, the level of detail in both the cars and the circuits is nuts. Regarding AMS2, it's definitely on my to-do list but keeps on getting pushed back for one reason or another which is a little frustrating since a lot of people are saying a lot of good things about it recently. I spent a fair amount of time in AMS2 about a year ago but the wonky AI and odd physics/FFB put me off...however the general opinion is that those issues are now fixed so it's long overdue for a second opinion.
Thanks Raptor 😁 pancake mode is what some people refer to as using a monitor. Because you know, when you use VR everything is in 3D but then going back to a monitor it's all as flat as a pancake 😉
Well this GFX card was probably going to be the only upgrade I had on the horizon for a long time, but thanks to my old 1080 dying it kind of accelerate the process a little 😅 not sure when my next upgrade will be unless I come into some good fortune financially, although probably a better webcam (maybe even a proper video camera for pro level video) is next on the list since my Logitech C920 has been giving me some grief recently. The wheel is holding on just fine for now, although those new CSL DDs do look rather tasty...
Luckly i managed to get a 3090fe at rrp and crazy how the prices have shot up at crazy prices . massively helped on my reverb g2 what CPU you running? i went from 2700x to 5900x and mad a massive difference, especially fps
Wow, that's a beast of a card 😲 I'm running an AMD Ryzen 7 3700X which is only a couple of months old and seems to do just fine for now but a few people have pointed out in the comments it could be a potential bottleneck...
@@DDFRacer that is correct. i found this to be the case on the 2700x, hence i managed to again get a 5900x at rrp. there is a video of a guy who tested this with a 3700x vs 5600x and mad a massive difference in VR
I tried AMS2 last year when it was still in the early phases of being patches and absolutely loved the visuals and optimisation on my old 1080 card so can only imagine how good it must be on the new 3080. I haven't started it up for a while though since the broken AI and odd physics/FFB put me off quite a bit, although a lot of people are saying the most recent updates have really sorted those issues out. It's been on my to-do list for a while but for one reason or another I just haven't gotten around to it 🤔 I definitely intend to soon though!
Looking to upgrade from my 1080 too and much like you I run in VR 99.9% of the time, think a 3080 is the direction I'll be going to well when I eventually get the money together for it. Do you know anyone wanting to buy a kidney? lol
All I can say is make sure you look after that 1080! It served me well for many years and, although the 3080 is leaps ahead, it doesn't make as massive of a difference as you might think. If you can wait until the prices start to come down then it'll be much more worthwhile 😉 and might even be able to keep all of your body parts too!
@@DDFRacer oh yeah I'm in no rush to get a 3080, my 1080 has been a work horse for several years and it'ss not showing any signs of dying (yet) so I'll only be getting that 3080 when the price is right for me.
Supporting the channel comes so naturally to you that you don't even remember you signed up as a member 🤣 love it... _(in all seriousness though, thanks for the support man 🧡 really appreciate it!)_
Oh man, that does suck 😢 VR completely transformed sim racing for me, although I didn't particularly suffer from motion sickness so that probably helped. I find the immersion such a massive help, especially the 3d aspect since I can kind of 'feel' my way around the track and have a much better idea of how close the walls and other cars are.
@@DDFRacer yeah I hear ya. Had it for about a 2 days and couldn't do it but I think I gave up to soon. I'm going to give it another try to see if I will adjust eventually cause you're right the experience was like nothing I've even witnessed at home👍
Definitely using the OpenVR dll hack mentioned on the forums 👍 and have been doing for a couple of years now. I use an Oculus CV1 so anything that runs through SteamVR just kills performance big time. Most titles let you start in either Steam or Oculus mode but not RaceRoom unfortunately so these kind of 3rd party mods are essential.
Couldn't agree more Dan! I would have waited too, however, my old 1080 had other ideas when it decided that it wanted to start dying rather suddenly... 😅
Ya the whole GPU issues are something that's been ongoing since the 30 series launched. Semi conductor shortages are affecting everyone. Thankfully things are starting to get better, largely thanks to China's Crypto crack down. Miners are starting to sell off their GPU's and I really hope people don't buy them. Let them hang onto their mountain of GPU cards that they can't sell, hopefully it will give them a little more pause before buying everything up on the next gfx release.. Also, stop buying from the scalpers! I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if the retailers continue to artificially state shortages a little longer so they can continue to force bundles to sell more stuff.. Be patient a little longer if you can!
Unfortunately I couldn't have waited much longer for a new card with my old 1080 starting to die, throwing artefacts on the screen and freezing completely when under load 😢 would have been nice to get a cheaper price in a few months but fortunately I didn't have to resort to a scalper to get my card. A fellow sim racer had an unboxed 3080 they'd purchased a while back but never got around to installing...and rather generously decided to pass it on to me at their cost price when they heard my card was dying. People can be awesome some times 🙏 very very grateful.
Can't say I've ever owned or played Minecraft tbh 🤔 although if I became obsessed with it anything like I did with Skyrim then you'd probably never see another sim racing video again...
My CPU is the AMD Ryzen 7 3700X, although this is only a couple of months old and was actually a surprise wedding gift from several subscribers on the channel, which was a very nice gesture indeed!
So you fed the scalpers. I'm sorry for the position you are in. This market is insane, but you still fed the scalpers which will ultimately communicate to NVIDIA that anyone is willing to pay these inflated prices.
Can confirm I did not feed the scalpers on this one 👍 a sim racing buddy had previously purchased the card at a lower price a few months ago but never got around to installing it. When I posted up about my card dying they messaged me and offered to sell it to me at cost price which just blew my mind, no profiteering or anything...just, here you go sir. Of course it wasn't as cheap as it could be, but it certainly wasn't as expensive as some of the prices you see on the market right now 😉
It definitely wasn't cheap 😅 but it wasn't up near the current prices you see in some places. If I had to put a figure on it, roughly the equivalent of 195,000 Kenyan Shillings 💸
God damn, with the way prices are, why'd you go for a 3080 over a 6800XT with the AMD card costing $800 less for comparable performance (and more VRAM)? Unless you cover it in the video, I'll have to watch it :P
I'm still running the old PSU at the moment since I haven't encountered any issues and don't intend on overclocking, but whenever I get some scheduled down-time for the rig and don't have any commitments to races or streams I might install the new one 👍 always nice to have that extra power, just in case.
I don't know if you still run your old CPU with the 3080 but if you do, it's definitely bottlenecking your card. Just scrolled trough the comment section and learned that you use a ryzen 7 3700X. Dude you're bottlenecking at 30% With this processor the effective speed of your card (depending on the resolution) Is somewhere in the range between an rtx 2070 and 2080. Every bottleneck calculator could tell you that.
Definitely not still running the same CPU as two years ago 👍 have upgraded to the AMD Ryzen 9 3900X since however getting this GPU wiped out my budget and it's been super tight ever since so not sure when the next upgrade will be for any of my components. Would love to remove all the bottlenecks but maintaining a top line system becomes a bit of an arms race and it's expensive to keep up.
Hello! Nice to see you again, Dan. Another splendid video, and another raft of views and opinions with which I find myself in agreement - even in not liking iRacing (though maybe for different reasons). Too much agreement is just so... BORING, though. So let's disagree - and this is just my opinion, in the same way that you have expressed yours to the contrary - VR sucks. There. The world really is so much richer for its variety - even as it dies. So jealous of your new graphics card, and yes, the prices of these things at the moment are just astronomical. Is it worth it? Maybe - if you're a multi-millionaire. Anyway, will try to catch a few more of your videos in future, Dan. Life is a whirlwind these days.
Ah, a little bit of anarchy I see 😉 nicely done! More than happy to agree to disagree with you on the whole VR thing, since it completely transformed my sim racing experience and it's quite hard to look back without it now (pun completely intended). Good to see you again too though mate 👋 hope you're keeping well and the whirlwind is a good thing!
@@DDFRacer [Like the VR headset thingy.] Actually I don't think VR 'sucks' at all. For those whose boat it floats - including yourself, Dan - I am more than happy that they - you - should have found such a tool. For myself, I use flat screens (not "pancake mode") because I don't like being 'locked into' a game and I don't like wearing headsets - even headphones. Other gripes, like lower resolution, visual effects, and frame rates are just temporary, and will soon disappear as rendering power increases. Not sorry, coz I don't like it either, but maybe in a future video you could tell us why you fell out of love with iRacing (or maybe you have already). Last I remember you were on it pretty much all the time.
@@johnelliott7850 Honest answer about iRacing? I just haven't made the time for it. I've cut down my racing and streaming schedule to focus on spending more time with Mrs DDF post-wedding and also make more 'informational' type videos such as this one, plenty more in the works which are half finished! Some unexpected AC stuff like the Croft community event and Thermalito have also taken up some time which I'd put aside to do iRacing. I'll get back to it eventually 👍
You'd be amazed how many awesome recipes there are out there for baked beans and noodles for two. Although generally never at the same time 🤔 I haven't gotten that desperate yet...
I've been running this card for over a year now and doubt I could afford another upgrade any time soon, even if I could fit a 4080 in my case and find the electricity budget to run it 😅
