I'll argue here, because culturally and style wise, anime has become more than just being something made from a certain area or by a certain group. It's developed into a genre with many, many sub-genres, that (yes) are informed by works originally made in Japan. But it's grown into something that expands beyond that, to encompass so much more. Just like hip hop/rap began in NY, spread to America, and now spans the globe. Being made by people of all nationalities, from all different backgrounds, etc. It keeps the influence from the Music originally coming from NY in the 70s and 80s, but has grown into so much more with many many sub-genres of hip hop/rap, and is made all around the world by different people of all types and backgrounds, and it's style has expanded while also keeping something from it's roots.
@@masstv9052 You're getting the definition of "genre" confused. Obviously, music has genres, since music of the same genre/root genre will share things in common, like what instruments are used, what rhythm and timescale are common ect. But what makes anime a "genre"? What commonalities does say _Victorian Romance Emma_ share with _Jojo's Bizarre Adventure?_ The only one I can see is that they're 2D animation. But 2D animation isn't a genre, it's a medium. You might have made this connection based on the idea that all anime share the same art style, so that sorta makes it a genre. But there's a LOT of anime out there that don't use the typical "anime" artstyle, but fans still see them as "anime". Things like _Monster, Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt, Dead Leaves, The Tatami Galaxy, Trava Fist Planet, Trapeze, Serial Experiments Lain, Mind Game, Tekkonkinkreet, Genius Party, HELLS, FLAG_ and _Kino's Journey_ to name a few. Going by the definition of "anime is an artstyle" would exclude the aforementioned, which definitely doesn't sound right.
@@fireazaI think you're putting words and though in my mouth or thoughts that I didn't say. so, yes, It's a main Genre, that (like every other genre evolves & creates new Sub-genres which will differ from other sub-genres, but all these sub-genres have some influence from the original artists & art/product that was originally made. So while each sub-genre will have some influence from those who came before, it's influence will have taken something different as an influence, than another sub-genre who has been inspired by a different influence of those previous artists & art/product) also has various sub-genres just like (as you stated yourself) music, and movies, and every other medium. Movie isn't a Genre, it's a medium.......But you have Horror genres (which also can be divided into different Sub-genres of horror, and the same goes for all the Main Genres, which can be further divided into various sub-genres that have been influenced by a different aspect of the earlier horror films, making each sub-genre unique), you have comedy genres, Romance Genres, Period Piece Genres, etc, etc, etc. Anime used the medium of Animation, but it's a Genre which can be divided into further sub-genres, as it's progressed and new artists entered using the medium and Genre of Anime, to create something new, but it's still influenced & built on the shoulders of those animes & artists who came. before them Just like, as an example, Quinton Tarantino has a style (while using his style to create movies in various sub-genres, like westerns, Period Pieces, Suspense, thriller, exploitation film genre, and kung fu films.). He was heavily influenced by those directors who came before him, who he seen as Auteurs. So he used their influence, while also incorporating his own style into films that are heavily influenced by directors & movies he loved when he was younger. So he created something new & unique, but they still fell into Genres & sub-genres. Despite Quinton having his own unique style unlike anyone else in the business. Same with Christopher Nolan, who has his own style that he brings into existing Genres of the film medium. Whether that's Sci-fi Heist films, super-hero films, action or Suspense film genres, etc, etc, etc. So, I'm not misunderstanding the definitions. I just inherently disagree with this videos take, and the OP of this threads hard agreement with the videos conclusions and take.
@@MiguelAngel-ij2tk The only Syndrome quote I remember is "...and when everybody becomes super, no one will be" but I fail to see how that's relevant. Note: if you haven't seen The Incredibles there is more to that quote than I included. This is just to jog the memory of those that have seen it.
*Fun Fact:* Tove Jansson (the author of the Moomins) originally going to sell the Moomins to Walt Disney Company. Although, she turned them down so she can retain full creative control over her work.
@@pinkflametheepic Well, that is the time Walt Disney was still alive so he could've agreed with her but you're right that the company might ruined her creation. I can't blame Walt for the downfall of his company but only the greedy dirtbags get away with tarnishing his legacy.
Holy shit... So for YEARS I have been trying to remember the name of this cartoon I saw when I was maybe 5 years old back in the late 80's. All I remembered about it was some incredible vague images of a jungle and a van and nothing else about the film itself. I remembered getting my parents to rent the tape from a local off licence every other day. Half of the damn thing was damn near unwatchable and I think our VCR eventually strait up ate the tape. I had pretty much given up on ever remembering what the hell it was, then this video randomly gets recommended to me by youtube. "Oh this looks neat" I think, and start watching... Then 12:02 hits and the memories of this random cartoon I've not seen for damn near 31 years INSTANTLY come flooding back. Seriously... With a name to finally go with it I instantly started searching on google and was instantly able to find the old Return of the Dinosaurs VHS released in the UK by Medusa in 1983. I just finished re-watching the entire thing again and it was like being a kid again (for better or for worse), it's janky as hell but my god I'm happy to have seen it again. So whilst it almost certainly wasn't the intention of your video... thanks... thanks for digging up these random old shows and talking about them. If you didn't, I probably never would have seen this again :D
Same thing, but with the anime at 11:17 Screnshotted and searched, it's ultimate muscle: I used to always see it when I was little but never knew how it was called
If you look at early chapters of Murata version of " One Punch Man " manga I would say Yes; You can literally make animation from manga panels ALONE and thats animation is still BETTER than infamous Nora " anime " .
10:50 Some of the first Japanese animators were former "Paper Theater" artists looking for work after WWII. The post-War influx of Disney cartoons made the "Paper Theater" genre die practically overnight, so former paper-theater artists turned to become animators, themselves
As a Dutch person, this video suddenly became a trove of obscure and forgotten childhood shows. I never realized that Moomins and Alfred J. Kwak were Co-produced by Japanese studios.
As Dutch Otaku I always try to educate my fellow Dutch Otaku about my favorite anime from when I was two years old. Been calling those shows anime for years because they fit my definition, so finally getting recognized was a big deal.
Cybersix actually also had a live-action series in Argentina, that I saw when I was like 10, and I don't remember much except for the aesthetic that was quite. Maybe if I watch it today it'd be horribly bad, but I choose to keep the distorted memories. :D
"Least animated anime" has to be 'Band of Ninja'/'Manual of Ninja Martial Arts' (which also goes by a half-dozen other names)- A full, 90m feature film, released in cinemas i n 1967, which is literally just a camera shooting pages of a manga, with voices and sound effects dubbed over the top. Closest thing to "animation" is zooming, panning, or shaking the camera- but it was made by anime an production company, distributed through anime distributors, even has an MAL page; Everything about it indicates 'anime' til you actually watch it, and say "Wait... it's all like THIS?!?"
Sounds like the really old Marvel cartoons, which weren't much more than comic panels with minimal movement and voice acting. And then there's the uniquely horrifying Clutch Cargo...
As an animator, I've actually considered the "what even is animation" question before. If you're going by the generally-accepted definition of animation (drawings, 3D models, or stop-motion), then no, a show with puppets isn't animated. But going by the chief definition of the verb "animate"- to make alive- then the puppeteers are technically animating them. Sure, it's not a Frankenstein situation where the being given life has its own free will; the puppets return to a lifeless state unless someone's controlling them. But isn't that true of all animation? We never see the full illusion of life unless we push the play button. So I'd argue shows like MST3K, Sesame Street, etc could be classified as live-action with animated elements. There seems to be a difference between what counts as animation and what counts as anime, though, at least from a Western perspective. Tl;dr: This video made me nerd out.
@@alexgomez6723 It's filmed for one. It's also an extension of the body, which defines it as a performance, much in the same way V-tubers & lets plays are performances. If you're filming real life, can you really call that animation?
@@kennylauderdale_en films just take lots of pictures. Anime is just hand drawn pictures. Seinfeld contains a number of those picture of a hand painted portait of Kramer. Therefore, Seinfeld is anime. Checkmate
A lot of the classic cartoons in America were made by Canadian/French production companies. A lot of them were Saturday morning cartoons on CW Just a few that I remember were French: Totally Spies, Code Lyoko, Magi-Nation,
Am i lost here ???? American *Cartoons and Animation* are totally different from each other.. Cartoons never takes it self seriously while Animation like *Batman TAS* dose.. Toon Spite vs Action Heroes .. Bugs Bunny could get shoot by a gun and be ok *CARTOON* .. while Batman got too dodge Two-Face with a Tommy Gun because he could literally be killed *ANIMATION* ... this dude channel being serious...? thought he was a expert who could easily distinguished this stuff ..?
Kenny's content easily beats anything anitubers have to offer. The closest thing for me is Gigguk, and while he's funny, the anime reviewer formula worn out a bit, especially with dudes like Digi slowly dragging it towards borderline-pretentious-mixed-with-hot-takes style of Vice-level content sprinkled with aspiring hack's stream of consciousness.
I agree, a lot of antitubers get repetitive. Especially Nux Taku, that guy just pumps out content and his humor annoys me. Most antitubiers talk about all the same trending, seasonal shit. While Kenny makes videos about shit I've never heard of. How he happily talks about the anime while throwing in little bits of info about the show makes his content vastly more interesting. The only antituber I can think of that's like him is super eyepatch wolf.
"Anitubers" are chasing an audience that is, by and large, only interested in the current season, and only the most Shonen shows at that. I can't really blame them for adapting the content they put out to the biases and preferences of their audience, but it's a far cry from the more scholarly videos that Kenny produces. The former prioritise audience engagement over the merit of the subject matter, the latter the other way around.
Fun fact: Quite a few episodes of Batman: The Animated Series from the early nineties qualifies as anime technically. Sunrise actually produced a decent number of episodes over the shows run
A lot of WB and Disney shows used Japanese studios in those days. I used to always wonder why certain episodes were so well animated and usually they were done by Japanese studios.
In my opinion, I think that the most defining thing about anime is being produced primarily with Japanese people as a target audience, not to say that others can't enjoy, but that the producers are mostly or at least partly focused on making something for Japan. And that its at least a little animated.
Texas is a hub for anime in the US. We are home to Funimation, ADV, Sentai Film works, and Rooster Teeth! Also, many dub writers, actors, directors, etc are Texas natives.
Hayao Miyazaki has said when live action becomes computer generated most of the time, its already mostly anime. Also the 70s Euro-Japanese co-productions were made at a time where the term anime was not even coined yet
So, Heidi, Girl of the Alps (with work done in part by no other than Hayao Miyazaki), Vicky the Viking, Maya the Honey Bee, and Pinocchio were actually no animes? The style (which confused me a lot when I was a child) very much looked like that.
Ooof, really unleashed the Kraken with this one. I had Korean outsourcing on my mind during the whole video. With many anime *cough* having a large percentage of their staff being based in South Korea, does Korean animation inherit the 'anime' title? Is Dead Leaves an anime? Is King of the Hill an anime? (apparently, it's the best anime) What about manwa that's animated by Japanese studios? Then there was the Japanese X-Men series from last decade. Also, thanks for the Cowboy Bebop - Woolongs for Nothing clips. The timing was perfect; I was on a Dire Straits kick yesterday so this was the best thing I didn't know existed.
Honestly I am so happy you mentioned Alfred J. Quack. It was no doubt my fav Show growing up (Like, some of the stuff they covered on the Show was really intense for a Kids Show and I applaud them for that) Also, the German Intro is an absolute Bop
@@MobileTech296 the good news is it holds up the mating dance episode is even better now that you're old enough to understand what Robbie was actually doing in the hallway
@@MobileTech296 Dinosaurs is definitely a show I encourage everyone to rewatch if they saw it as a kid. It’s exactly like early-season Simpsons: as a kid, you love it for the surface-level humor, and when you rewatch it as an adult, you realize it was funny on levels that flew right the hell over your head.
Dinosaurs is one of the best written, yet least applauded shows out there. In my mind I liken it to the wit of something like Bojack Horseman or Archer. Way, way ahead of it's time.
@@kennylauderdale_en "Things That Might be Anime" GOAT Edition Featuring Knuckls from the Knuckles the Echidna Series (feat. Hideous Kojimer of Strands of Death renown)
Is the Last Unicorn anime? English language movie from a book animated by Japanese studio. But look at the unicorn’s eyes, that’s so anime. So Yes. Yes it is.
I was going to ask about The Last Unicorn! It is my favortie ever and I do count it as an anime. The animators went to work for Stuido Ghibli on Nuasicaa. It makes me happy that someone else asked!
Fun fact: The unicorn's human form was originally designed to purposely look anime because she was out of its world. In fact, they had to keep redoing it only because it looked very moe.
Well it has a magical creature being turned into a Waifu. So obviously it's anime. Although strangely enough, she looked more moe as a horned horse than as a woman...
I think anime has branched into a genre that mostly does at least one or two of the following: Is made in Japan, is animated, follows a traditionally anime or manga style, is made by someone japanese, is themed around or set in Japan, and or has very Japanese influence. It doesn't really follow a set rule book, but tears at least a few pages out
@@justinbarnes3857 Chinese cartoons and Korean cartoons couldn't be count as an anime, or else RWBY and Avatar The Last Airbender have to be included in anime too. Their underlying philosophy and the real art style that they want to pursue are rather different from Japanese cartoons too. (most Chinese and Korean artists actually wants to animate stuff more in Westernized style than Japanese style; they are mostly going for Japanese style for cash grab forced by the corps. tl;dr it is more of an copycat than their true art forms.)
@@mousesteam7882 except what does ‘trying to look like manga’ mean? There are so many art styles in manga and anime. Yes, there’s the most commonly used style, but what about ones that aren’t. Would they not be called an anime even if made in Japan?
5:54 You're a saint! I've been wondering what this series' name was for a while. I grew up watching it as a kid but I missed the final episodes.(I don't remember if it was because of school or because our cable provider removed the channel)
Setting the definition of an argument is a wonderful skill, because, in cases like this, it can expose how many things are just cultural consensus instead of an actually agreed upon 'hard' definition, and even those still require consensus to some extent.
@@未来のばか Kenny searches exotic, dusty archives to bring us ancient stories and history nearly forgotten in our time. He's not weeb Aristotle, he's weeb Herodotus.
He's a real thinker: some weekly anime series in Japan have started taking to hiring American animators to work on the shows remotely from their homes in America, and send the finished animation over the internet to the production studios in Japan. Does that still count as anime, then?
Japan has been using animation studios in Korea to do the in-betweens for decades now, so I'd say nothing has changed. Hell, America uses them too, though often to produce the whole show, not just the in-betweens. Does this mean _The Simpsons_ is a Korean cartoon? Probably not, since the core of the show was designed and made in America for Americans.
Occasionally I remember that the entire second season of The Big O was made entirely for Toonami/ Midnight Run/ Adult Swim, giving us one of the rare cases when the dub predates the sub.
fun fact: little lulu and your littler friends was adapted with an American cartoon style, the show was also brought to other countries such as brazil and from what I remember at the time it was well embraced by the Brazilian children's audience
11:12 Imagine sitting at a pachinko machine, just putting metal balls in every few minutes. You hit a few jackpots unawares Metal balls are overflowing into your lap Someone walks up “dude, you won” “SHH! I’m trying to watch!”
I think the definition has broadened over the decades due to how mainstream Anime has become and due to globalization. At a certain point classifying what is or isn't Anime is like classifying a genre or subgenre of music. While Anime in the 80s and 90s was something more clearly cut (virtually everything was entirely done in Japan) the broad appeal and popularity have expanded the definition. These days especially; when content is so easy and readily available people can now grow up almost entirely on Japanese culture and its products (games, movies, anime, manga, and plenty more). If a western/non-Japanese kid spends his entire life watching and researching Anime and one day becomes a show or film creator making local Animed inspired shows--- does that make the show anime? Likely for not for now but into the future? I think so. Eventually, Anime can be classified exclusively as art, style, form, and subject matter. Here in Brazil for instance some people can't agree on what is a Comic or Comic Book. Does it have to be American? Does it need Super/Heroes? Done in a very different style than DC or Marvel? It goes on and on. Just like Cyber Six. Art does not remain regional forever that's the beauty of culture. And YES Thunderbolt Fantasy is Anime. Say otherwise and we'll catapult a cow from my fortress while I taunt you a second time!
Interesting that Brazilians are having the same discussion on comics that Americans are having about anime. In America, a comic is literally anything drawn or rendered with panels, but it's a different idea in Brazil. That's just so interesting to me.
I think we need to focus on calling it a style rather than focusing on where it came from. Let's take this argument to music, for example - is grunge only grunge if it comes from Seattle? How about Japanese jazz? Is it not jazz because it's not from the US? Shoegazer/math music started in the UK, then moved to the US, then many parts of Asia went in all kinds of interesting directions with it and now we see it as the opening theme to Land of Lustrous. Also, Belladonna of Sadness may be Japanese but it is the essence of 1970's France - one of THE most French things I've ever seen.
Like how champagne is technically a sparkling wine only made in a specific region in France but most people would call any sparkling wine champagne regardless of where it originates from, I think anime now describes more of a style than where it comes from.
stumbled upon this channel recently. And I’ve come to say what an animation and film buff from japan told me with confidence is the term anime was given to the Japanese film makers who were featuring their project to a festival in france, and as a back handed comment dubbed it as Anime; in implication that it’s not fully animated but rather compensating with frame to frame juxtaposition. The term is solidified with implications of japanese animation, but even the Japanese film makers Satoshi Kon, Mamoru Hosoda, Isao Takahada and of course Hayao Miyazaki still refer to themselves as film makers and opposed to being called anime artists.
That's so beautiful. "Have you deciphered the Americans' secret codes?" "Nope, but I did find this cool picture book with mysterious symbols on it." "...This is just Finnish." "Wow, you must be _really_ good at deciphering."
If you take a look on "Turma da Monica" from Mauricio de Souza, a brazilian studio, you'll find a lot of anime influence there. The guy was a friend of Osamu Tezuka.
Normal people be like: "Oh, I like Avatar, does that count as anime? Can I join your anime club?" And then there's me: "GUYS, DID YOU KNOW RUDOLPH THE RED-NOSED REINDEER WAS MADE IN JAPAN?? BEST ANIME 202X!!"
It’s funny, cuz _Animé_ is a French word before it was ever used in Japan, and even in Japan, it doesn’t mean the show is Japan specific. It literally just means “animated cartoon” to the Japanese. Likewise, _manga_ just means “cartoon” (can be STILL or ANIMATED), but by the 90s, started to get the connotation of ONLY STILL, unlike in English where it, by the 90s, got the connotation of ONLY ANIMATED).
Japan Admires the French, I live in Japan for years and they really admire anything French, which dated back in the Shogunate and Meiji Era, due to Napoleon and the French Monarchy, examples is the term "Prefectures" for Japanese Provinces, to some colleges and educational institutions in Japan offering French
@@TheZigzagman i dont think it clashes. plenty of xenophobic people in the US point to Japan as a "good example" but would think differently if they came to the US without learning English or tried to establish a culture of conformity in the US. they like the "good parts" but like more for foreigners to stay "over there".
@@personmcdudeguy I think the sort of opposite is true within Japan, a lot of the Japanese that really admire the US dislike the collectivism and conformity of Japan and prefer the US’s individualism. Also the stereotype of Japan being xenophobic toward foreigners is only really true in certain cases. You have to remember that even the now elderly in Japan grew up with US forces stationed in their borders. Many younger Japanese almost *fetishize* westerners. I’d say the only times Japanese will actually be straight up xenophobic toward a foreigner is if they live in a rural town (which also generally applies to the US) or if they just generally dislike foreigners for whatever reason which is relatively rare.
This is one of these videos where multiple things show up only for the sake of B-roll footage and are never explained or mentioned, but catch my interest more than the things that are discussed. You were _this close_ to spreading the good word about _Gal & Dinosaur._ And WHAT EVEN WAS THAT POLYGONAL BEBOP ANIMATION???
Now make a sequel: “Things that might be Aeni” Aeni is Korean animation (it’s also what animation is called in Korea) and yet people keep calling it “Korean anime”.
9:52 I think this is the moment that semi-introduced Thunderbolt Fantasy to me. I remember seeing a clip of some weird puppets fighting gratuitously and had no idea wtf that was about, Kenny helped me put a name to that clip and indirectly referred me to the most sleeped on not-anime of all time. The new season started filming a few weeks ago and it reminded me of this video.
One interesting show, would be all the American Clones and near-Clones of Urusei Yatsura in the US in the 80s. Galaxy High (which looks a bit like an animated version of the Role-Playing game "Teeenagers from Outer Space"), Ninja High School, etc..On the Anime side, it might be worth it to check out Wingman (early Masakazu, whose credits are just about a copyright violation and the modern "Jitsu wa Watashi wa" (which almost seems a Japanese adaption of "Ninja High School" (which took from everything, as they said in the day). "If you see it in Ninja High School it's Ben Dunn."
I remember this video! I'll still watch it again tho, it was pretty fun P.S.: dunno if anyone else said this yet, but I'm looking forward to an Izenborg video! It caught my interest after you talked about it here
This is one of my favorite videos of this channel. Idk if I would know such a wide verity of art if this channel didnt exist. The countless hours spent watching "animation" this channel recommends has been a part of changing my life for the better. Im going threw each video as I have internet access and so far each one is a plethora of valuable information and entertainment.
"...even tho it doenst look like it, yep thats an anime..." To me it does, there are subtleties that make anime feel anime, but I dont know how to explain them
For some reason, this made me nostalgic for my first experience in anime which was Toei's The Little Mermaid released in 1978 in the US. I still have the VHS somewhere.
Here's my personal definition: Anime is every animation made primarily in Japan _and also_ any animation that holds the common characteristics associated with Japanese animation, except for when the label would cause confusion. For example, I would call the Castlevania show anime because there are no notable distinctions caused by it not being animated in Japan; however, I would not call Avatar: The Last Airbender anime because--while it is definitively inspired by anime--it has very American sensibilities and presentation, and calling it anime might discourage some people from viewing it if the term "anime" turns them off.
That reminds me that once I had a discussion with a friend about what is and what is not anime when Netflix's castlevania came out and they told me "I can bring you a guy to explain you what an anime is" so I answered "And I can bring you one of my Japanese friends to tell you that everything is anime"
No harm done confusing it with a Anime Castlevania game made by *Konami* of Japan ... but yeah the fact that he doesn't kown the difference between American Cartoons & Animation was actually a bit shocking to watch not going to lie lol
Omg, I thought Little Lulu was a Brazilian Cartoon! It was very popular here, we called her Luluzinha, and she even got a manga-style comic about the cast as teenagers
The question about whether a show made in America by Americans in a Japanese art style could be considered anime, I am reminded of a debate over the contrast and definition of two game genres: JRPG (Japanese Role-Playing Game) WRPG (Western Role-Playing Game) The way it was described to me was that the quintessential JRPG is something like a modern Final Fantasy game, with various standard RPG elements (story-rich, leveling up, inventory management, etc.) but distinguishes from WRPG's by the fact that it has a story to tell, and the player is just put in the role of one or more characters in that existing story. They may make a few key choices, or none at all, but they generally follow a narrative path already defined. A WRPG on the other hand, would be something closer to Dungeons & Dragons. It's less about the game telling the player a story and more about the player putting themselves or a character(s) of their own creation into the story to play. A great example of that might be something like The Elder Scrolls. There is a background story, but the player-character isn't pre-defined, doesn't have as fixed a set path to follow, more narrative freedom. Then, the real kicker came when someone called "Dark Souls" a WRPG, and I was like, "but it's from Japan!" and they responded, "yes, but it's not a Japanese- _style_ RPG. It's got character creation, and the story is more in the background than centered on the player character. It's a Western _style_ RPG."
@@ilikestuff9250 Okay, sure, but people were calling Zelda an RPG twenty years ago. It really didn't have anything to do with mechanics. Similar to the idea that "anime is a genre", a lot of people felt that anything fantasy-related was probably an RPG.
One thing I wanna say: Idk why ppl get so mad when we call them cartoons. As a label that we made up to simplify things, it doesn't determine quality. There's plenty of shitty anime as well as children's anime, like there are plenty of great cartoons and adult cartoons as well.
@@mascotwithadinosaur9353 like some people always rag on about "weebs" saying Avatar or Castlevania "isn't anime", but when it's turn around and we asked "why don't you like Avatar or Castlevania to be called as cartoons instead?" they get mad.
He said he reuploaded it to include some extra info and correct a few mistakes he made in the original video. He probably unlisted or deleted the original video
on the topic of the puppet bit there was actually one before that, called X Bomber (Starfleet in the US) and also about the Pingu bit, the reboot was directed (i think) by Naomi Iwata, who also made a anime called Gregory Horror Show and Pecola, Pecola being more known than Gregory Horror Show
In the 90s, budgets for some shows were so low, they either reused footage, or in some cases, had a lot of dramatic still shots that might have gotten the comic motion video treatment. I haven't seen it, but one of the worst offenders of this was Violinist of Hamelin.
I almost choked to death bc I was NOT expecting another person to remember Oban: Star Racers one of the most gorgeous shows of that era imo, the backgrounds are breathtaking
Thunderbolt Fantasy is like, definitely an important part of Anime history! I’m still not sure if it counts as Anime tho. Like the whole production team is pure Anime… but…
