"Mam im sorry but your coupon has expired..... no mam im not saying you are stupid all im saying is you didnt notice the expiration date, it happens..... yeah ill go get my manager"
@@vexo9028 worked it for a year before i got tf out and never looked back. Ill live on the streets before i ever have to deal with that shit again. Good luck to you.
I personally don't think she believes the garbage she says. She just does it because she knows that making wildly idiotic statements about popular RU-vidrs would give her attention & clout
"My opponent came out today fully addressing the issue from last week. But yesterday he didn't say a thing!" "Yeah but I addressed it." "No, you can clearly see from all your vods up until your addressed it the first time that you never addressed it." Let the past die. Kill it if you have to.
Those are the people who want to have "live talks" - a trap with them. Way better everyone gets the arguments and makes a video, like seen in this case.
I feel like if you have decent reading/general comprehension, you wouldn't fall into her traps, but unfortunately the world isn't as literate as it used to be. logical fallacies are like a suggestion manual for people like that
@@GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli bro she's referring to the fact that he claimed (and asmongold ran with this point) that he said she misrepresented him. That she litterally left out some of his response even though hee video came out before he made any response. What is so hard to understand about this.
I can't stand the way she talks. I know it shouldn't be something to bash or a strong ground of argument but i'm petty and not the bigger person in these kind of situations
Echo-chamber strategy. Professional media teams use this as an intentional strategy sometimes. It works if your audience already agree with you and aren't paying attention to the content: FOX News is the perfect example, although I don't know whether they do it on purpose.
@@xPepe1310 charlie criticizes his friends, he said that multiple times in this video. the laugh that he let out when the ad came on was clearly out of discomfort.
I think this is a common occurence online nowadays, people having arguments in their own head and taking the most mundane thing and instantly deriving the worst of it. Like someone saying "I like pancakes" and then somehow accusing that person of being a narcissistic manipulator because they talked about themselves.
I’m late to this situation but this reminds me of when my dad and me would be arguing the same point, each thinking the other is disagreeing. Not exactly the same thing happening here but feels similar. No matter how much Charlie explains himself, Mukitty takes it wrong.
This video right here is why moist is one of, if not my absolute RU-vid Role Model of how to conduct yourself without resulting to childish antics and speaking clear, concise thoughts that no matter how you chop it, serves to better his previous points and at the SAME TIME, allows the criticism and responds accordingly because he actually gets that nobody is above being called out on their shit
Also a level of communication that's kind of going extinct. Most youtubers quickly devolve drama like this into personal attacks, insults, and "dirt digging", rather than simply and patiently addressing the other person's points while raising your own pertaining to the actual argument.
i was thinking the same thing man. shit i even thought about streaming before just for fun not thinking of anything but then i see crap like this and i just can't imagine going through it. my mental would snap so it's def impressive to see charlie keep his composure even tho you can def tell he's upset the longer the video goes. it's wild that some random no body can just say shit like that and have such a butterfly effect. hopefully this meow meow girl or whatever the fuck her name is just disappears soon after everyone sees how delusional she is.
Sensationalism. The psychological effect of the music is used to make the narrative be more impactful. Wich is sad, because it's mostly bullshit, and it only makes her look dumber.
I love how Charlie defends himself perfectly and argues without losing patience if more people are like this on the internet maybe more people will be smart plus he know when he is wrong when many people don't know when to admit it
@@registeredjopper She literally has minecraft backgrounds on her video and the stupid herobrine sound effects once in a while. I don't know how you could think they're the one being stupid, she's clearly targeting younger people.
The mental gymnastics that mukitty had to jump through in order to provide 20 points against Charlie when she only had maybe 1 is crazy. She quite literally tried to stretch her video like it didn’t meet the word requirement for her English class.
Mukitty is actually secretly Charlie's biggest fan. Behind her weird minecraft greenscreen, her walls are lined with nothing but godslap and moist esports merch.
MuKitty's takes and voice makes me feel good. Because while I despise myself, I find comfort that things could have been way worse. I could have been like her. Fucking hell.
I like how he's so unproblematic that instead of getting aggressive he just gets frustrated and talks like he's explaining a baby how real world works.
Charlie is extremely self aware, as well as having a generally great moral compass with great self reflection and expression with outstanding articulation of his thoughts. Really you can’t cancel him because he is genuinely a good person who is very smart and socially intelligent. That’s this videos summary
(From the little information I've gathered) I think it was more that he said he did admonish the fansly thing when there is no prior evidence before he got called out.
@@faerie5926 (Again, I haven't gathered enough info) But I think the problem is that he didn't outright say it was bad, now that wouldn't be a problem if he later didn't say he already said it was bad (he just chuckled which just implied he was nervous). I don't know if I explained myself properly but it's about him saying he talked about it before her video (which apparently he didn't).
I wonder if she's ever heard of the psychological phenomenon of people laughing when they're uncomfortable-it's actually fairly common. Also I swear Charlie sounds so exhausted by the end
Sure. But what about he phenomenon of charlie saying word by word " who thinks these two cases are even comparable must be insane"? Was that statement also a nervous reaction? The point here is that charlie had two different responses back to back and can't admit it.
@@manuelsilva6244because they aren’t. showing full on porn on stream is not the same as a porn ad where you can’t access porn unless you pay for it. Even if children make a fansly account it’s not like they’re watching anything, twitch has adult content. In what way does kik verify the audience of the stream is 18+? They are two different situations and it’s baffling you think they’re same
@@bunnie9230 you can access the porn without paying for it though And Charlie said they were similar situations in this video, he just tries to minimise the porn advert cause he didn't react to it at the time when he should have done, that's why people are upset
her arguments are actually pretty good. You're just manipulated by penguin. He promoted an ad of porn to kids and now he's playing mental gymnastics to play it away. No, you are a hypocrite sir
@@phyzyc6765I would love to know how he promoted it, but unfortunately the evidence for his crime doesn't exist cause he didn't. But maybe you're right and I've been manipulated by the penguin bc all I see is him saying it's bad and debunking all of her points for 41 minutes straight. My man, for one of her points she literally had to edit out a section of the video charlie made to make her look better. It seems maybe you're the one who's been manipulated here.
@Luis Ochoa the fact you said Troll and being factually right as a way to describe one person is insane. How can you troll and be right? The purpose of trolling is to push something not true or so extremely annoying that it gets under people skin. Matter of I fact I feel as if the last bit of your comment is trolling. But to say someone who has clearly doctored evidence to fit an agenda is telling the truth is absurd
@@luisochoa576 I can’t tell if you’re stirring the pot for attention or if you’re so internet simp-brained that you don’t see your own circular reasoning 😭 well played
Poor Charlie, he goes through so much shit, and seems like such a nice guy, I remember watching a video made by Oompaville and he said that most creators that he collabs with are just not great people or some shit, with the exception of a few people, including Charlie.
@@cathl4953 I'd still trust them more then most career politicians. At least they're probably normal people and doesn't go fuck little children in a goat mask like how most politicians probably spend their free time.
I dont understand why she’s even relevant. She’s a grifter. She’s basically the youtube version of livestream fails. Her most recent videos are just grifting off of XQC EDIT: Correction: basically all her videos are grifting off of XQC
@@ShatterIsMyName watching her is like taking acid and drinking bleach at the same time while trying to line dance drunk with your boots on the opposite feet literally destroys your brain cells
Honestly good on Charlie for not using his patience she’s so obnoxious. He had to repeat himself multiple times and it’s sad she can’t understand these basic points. Good on you, Charlie, for being so calm yet firm. Most would probably loose their temper with somebody like her
he is scary for manipulating his audience into believing lies. and he didnt correct his mistake ever. he said you need to do a lot to access fansly as if he knew yet he didnt which means he lied...
I do believe she just has a Swedish accent. I'm not entirely sure since I don't really know anything about her, but as a Swede I'm usually quite good at recognising it. The Minecraft dev team is another example of more prominent Swedish accents if you want something to compare to
I gotta give it to Charlie, I'm not sure how he was able to understand her. She sounds like she learned how to talk 18 months ago and wants everyone to hear because its her first achievement in life.
She called him a hypocrite for laughing when the ad came up, when minors are probably watching, instead of making a comment about it like when he made comments about the streamer that showed p*rn. That’s literally it lol but Charlie keeps spinning it to make it seem that she’s saying he condones showing the ad to children when that’s not at all what she said in her first vid. This dude is just spitting word salad most of the time tbh lol
It's actually an official technique that is very effective and became overtly popular as a social engineering method, "Rage-Baiting" adopted by all people on the internet
Of all the RU-vidrs, Charlie truly feels the most human and relatable. He has a good sense of self-reflection and self-analysis and isn't full of himself, and he's able to admit when he's made mistakes and when he's wrong. I really appreciate the clarity here.
I feel so bad for Charlie. As soon as he got into the big leagues reaching 10M subs, it’s been one person after another bashing on him, way more often than before. This is literally the chillest dude on RU-vid.
imagine this makes you "feel so bad" for someone who earns millions each year doing what he does here. But to make you feel a bit better, he will get through it. He's not a child, he can handle a little bit of criticism.
I love how confusingly she lays out her "arguments", just taking stuff out of context and making massive assumptions then getting mad at Moist's assumptions.
It really feels like people are taking any chance they can get to take down and "cancel" Charlie- only to fall into the ever-expanding pit of people who've tried and failed
Yeah she's a god damn clout goblin who just used to ride off of xqc clips from what her channel is. She got hundred of thousands of views from this situation. And will continue to do edgy cancellations like this
Next video just shows Charlie saying "I've said it a million times", Mutkitty: "But he hasn't said it a million times, he's only said it 326 times, what a massive lie he just told!"
I am actually losing brain cells watching her forward the same three points over and over again. She's even proving herself wrong in doing so. This is without even mentioning her negligence regarding research on the OTK cover up situation. There is just no way she is being serious about this and not riding the clout wave. Let's just call a spade. a spade.
I still think Moist belittled how bad the fansly ad was. Adin Ross showing pornhub on stream with an 18+ requirement isn't at all as far away from a Fansly ad on a 300k viewer stream on Twitch with no age restriction. Like you could immediately sign in to that fansly ad with your Twitch account, and be met with porn. No restrictions at all (I tried it, lol)
And she doesn’t care because all that matters is that all eyes are on her rn,even if she’s making herself look like a clown,people are still talking about her anyway so it’s her W.
You know Charlie is beyond peeved when you can hear his soul leaving his body throughout the video. Listen to the start of the vid then go to the end, he literally lost his voice trying to educate this child.
Swapping between charlie and her video was like having a pleasant evening with the messiah and randomly being dunked into a weird fever dream while wearing drunk goggles and spoofing crushed up quaaludes and Xanax.
One thing I love about stupid people trying to make arguments is that they operate on the paradigm of "If something is not explicitly spelled out to me, there is no possible way that it could be true, but I don't need to say what I mean"
"He lied, look, he said this thing" *plays clip* "And then later he admits he was wrong, but he didn't say he was wrong in the original clip, only later, so he's a liar for not immediately being correct about something" The mental gymnastics this chick does to get to the wrong conclusion is astounding.
Time line matters when you try to claim a high road about something you said or did, not that a charlie fan like you would understand since all his videos are spoonfed to you as if you’re a neurodivergent kid
You know what the worst part is? She will record his response and then upload it on her reaction channel just to making money. Truly a clout chaser behavior
She is xqc fan who xqc uses as a tool to farm drama and then act like he didn’t know much about her bc she diss him time to time. After she is useless he will leave her like he did to Adrianah Lee.
I love it when Charlie gets into drama. It's literally just drama coming to seek him out because he's so unproblematic. And his responses are always so simple and obvious because it shouldn't have to be discussed to begin with. 😂
clout chasers gonna clout chase. 30k subs is nothing to scoff at by any means. Any "controversy" is gonna drum up subs/views. PayMoneyWubby is the first example that comes to mind, as well as 2015-2016 has-been titans like filthyfrank, idubbbz, h3, etc.
And most of all, he never lets it drag out for months on end. If they keep trying to troll, he's already rested his case. If there's nothing more to say, there's no reason to fuel their clout chasing.
I feel bad actually. It must suck to waste time on allegations of hypocrisy that have no value. I certainly don't love it. This is a waste of everyone's time.
"I wasn't harping you." pings him repeatedly on Twitter, demanding responces from him and creating a video targeting charlie specifically. "Nah definitely not harping...That's Harassing."
Charlie handles "controversy" better than almost anyone on RU-vid,especially the way he doesn't try to bully smaller channels who try to make videos against him
Absolutely... And if you try to pick it apart and address it bit by bit, you end up with an over 40mins video because there are just too many "huh?" moments...
You shouldn't argue with idiots, but there are times defamation must be addressed. If someone is spreading a lie that you're ok with porn being shown to kids, its officially beyond petty internet drama.
