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@Caterfree10
@Caterfree10 3 года назад
The cost of college makes me wish apprenticeships were more common in the US. They seem a better way to make a sure path to success.
@rogerchan3332
@rogerchan3332 3 года назад
I mean nobody's stopping you and there's high demand/pay for trade jobs.
@Caterfree10
@Caterfree10 3 года назад
@@rogerchan3332 I landed office work so I’m not sure there’s any real apprenticeship model for my field tbh. Still would’ve been nice to have options that don’t have me paying off 30k+ in debt instead of being pushed towards college as the only viable option.
@ish77.7
@ish77.7 3 года назад
100% agreed. I just finished grad school a few months ago, and the only real reason I went was because I was having a hard time landing s full time job in my field. How gross is that? Get into more debt so you can give yourself time. Most colleges don't actually prepare students for the real world. You just have to seek most things out yourself. I had to seek an internship every summer in college on my own, and still didn't land a full time straight out the gate.
@user-qn6mt8mc9x
@user-qn6mt8mc9x 3 года назад
I agree, I also wish the more obscure apprenticeships were shown too. Not everyone wants to be a plumber or electrician
@yesihavealastname1562
@yesihavealastname1562 3 года назад
our employers are greedy. in the old days, companies were willing to train people, and you could start an entry level job without a college degree, and work your way up. today, companies don't want to spend money to train people; they want you to have a college degree with 2-3 years experience. and instead of paid apprenticeships/training, they want you to work for *free* in internships! i remember my grandfather telling me how his company paid for his night school so he could improve his skills. that same company today has stopped doing this. they just outsource instead! my sister just left her job because she was told she needed to take a 15% pay cut because of the pandemic, yet the CEOs received a 17% pay raise!
@safety_sid
@safety_sid 3 года назад
There's just something about being able to actually fix something properly that will always remain infinitely more valuable than building a cool excel worksheet
@drepark2294
@drepark2294 3 года назад
Says who?
@evanm9026
@evanm9026 3 года назад
I know a sup who he creates an excel worksheet for another excel worksheet. 🤦🏽‍♂️
@madengineer270
@madengineer270 3 года назад
People who make excel sheets are usually managers and get paid lots more without getting hands dirty.
@drepark2294
@drepark2294 3 года назад
@@madengineer270 exactly. I make 150k for sitting behind my computer, designing compensation hr excel spreadsheets. I’m only 35 have a ways to go to hit my full earning potential. I work from home and don’t have to worry about my body falling apart because of my job. My eyes need to be checked but it goes with the territory.
@tavi_elli
@tavi_elli 3 года назад
@@drepark2294 u miss the point because ur focus is on love of money.
@tavroaar8173
@tavroaar8173 3 года назад
I think we should not be putting down people who go to college or people who don’t. College is not for everybody and neither is construction or technical work. We need people in all areas of expertise. Humans are diverse.
@Peyote1312
@Peyote1312 3 года назад
The problem seems to be that the “national average” wage is so astonishingly low. Why have American wages stagnated since the 1970s while the economy is more productive than ever? The workers are being robbed.
@hotcakesism
@hotcakesism 3 года назад
@@Peyote1312 yeah I feel like these trade career ads, while a legitimate public good, are also meant to help perpetuate the dynamic of shifting around the socio-economic contradictions without ever really confronting them. Why does there need to be unemployment? Why don't wages keep up with the basic cost of living? Why does student debt have to be the norm? ...and so on... It serves capital very well.
@foreveryactionthereisacons1683
@foreveryactionthereisacons1683 3 года назад
Earth is a school were all attending.💛
@foreveryactionthereisacons1683
@foreveryactionthereisacons1683 3 года назад
@@Peyote1312 Absolutely 💯
@karlhenke91
@karlhenke91 3 года назад
I grew up in an area with an extreme amount of pressure to go to college right after high school. I went for one year of community college, but my grades were bad, so I quit. My brother and sister both completed a four-year degree and my sister completed grad school. I ended up falling into a job that pays me more than either of them makes, and they are also crippled with student loan debt I don't have. Not to say my experience is typical or expected (there are a lot of factors at play), but this video hits pretty hard because they did everything "right" and it feels like they were punished for it.
@lanceearly906
@lanceearly906 3 года назад
Exact same for me. My sister has a Masters and I only have a HS diploma. I worked my way up in a company and make more than her and have no debt. However, I do feel like she’s more secure cause she has that degree to fall back on and the flexibility to change careers. Not sure which situation is better - hers or mine. And like you said, we are probably the exception, not the rule.
@Valhalla_Heathen
@Valhalla_Heathen 3 года назад
Good for you my friend! 👏🏻
@yesihavealastname1562
@yesihavealastname1562 3 года назад
for every 28 days, i work in the skilled trades for two weeks, and sell home cooked meals for the other two weeks. i'm 28 years old, and make $120k a year, and have zero student loans. i'm glad i didn't go to college. i do, however, work really hard. once i purchase a home, i'll slow down and enjoy life more, but yeah, NO REGRETS!
@zuutlmna
@zuutlmna 3 года назад
Weird how that seems tp play out. I'm age 70 now, and retired. Until my late 20's, I was working at minimum wage jobs with college grads. My dishwashing job with a guy with a psych. degree. There was the pizza job with a business major from UC Berkeley, the UPS driver with a Masters from Oregon State, Corvallis, the kids I grew up with, with college degrees that did nothing with their college education.. It's mind boggling. But I only managed (struggled!) to complete community college, and I did outstandingly well for myself.
@zuutlmna
@zuutlmna 3 года назад
Summer, '72, the gas station attendant saw one of my math books on the seat of my car and started a conversation. Said he could tutor me if I needed help. He had a Masters in math from Chico State (and a wife and kids).
@randojones2030
@randojones2030 3 года назад
Skilled labor is how I describe myself. Fresh out of HS I went to technical school for electronics. While I was taking classes I worked with an electrical contractor. My Dad was in the trades so I grew up laboring and working with my hands. Now in my mid 30's I have had many jobs in several industries. The formula is simple: Show up everyday on time ready to work, get along with everyone, do you job to the best of your ability, when your ability is lacking reach out for help and admit mistakes, don't complain, pay attention and be safety conscious, enjoy everything as best you can. If I could go back to 2005 when I graduated HS the only thing I would change would be to increase my financial illiteracy. Had I done that I'd be well into retirement at this point
@vicvic2081
@vicvic2081 3 года назад
Must be nice to not have regrets. Congratulations I mean it
@blattlicht
@blattlicht 3 года назад
You want to increase your financial "illiteracy". Nice...
@vincentnnyc
@vincentnnyc 3 года назад
Not everyone is cut out to be a tradesmen just like not everyone is cut out to go to college. There need to be a transparency about who is pushing this agenda behind the scene.
@dericmederos1514
@dericmederos1514 3 года назад
getting real tired of seeing these "I make 80k a year as a tradesman! No college!" Starting out in the trades you get paid a couple bucks above minimum wage
@gremlinking5640
@gremlinking5640 3 года назад
Yeah you have to commit to at least a few years of getting horribly exploited by some small business tyrant. But with the way the economy is going I still think more people should be going into trades.
@dc76384
@dc76384 3 года назад
@@dericmederos1514 Wrong! Wrong!
@ihavenoidea9543
@ihavenoidea9543 3 года назад
@@dc76384 don't correct him! I gave up on trying to convince people. Because I realized I get paid more if more of my generation refuse to go into my field.
@daniellove162
@daniellove162 3 года назад
@@dericmederos1514 - I don’t do trades work for a living, I have rebuild my kitchen, redone my floors, put pics on Facebook and INSTANTLY got 3 requests to redo other peoples kitchens. Jokingly I said, ok I’ll do it for 20k + materials and it will take me a month (I’m slow). They ALL jumped on it. People are so desperate to hire COMPETENT skilled trades I have no idea how you make under $20/hour doing it.
@Lolalogo
@Lolalogo 3 года назад
I love technician workers! So many of them are so knowledgeable! As someone who works in research, we depend on them so so much.
@juanshaftpatel7488
@juanshaftpatel7488 3 года назад
would you marry one?
@magicdinho107
@magicdinho107 3 года назад
Juan Shaft Patel lol
@scarysunburns7733
@scarysunburns7733 3 года назад
@@juanshaftpatel7488 that’s the real test innit
@sct4040
@sct4040 3 года назад
Yes, especially the IT guys at work. I depend on them so much. A lot of them are just certified, not BA graduates.
@FIR2031
@FIR2031 3 года назад
I'm glad I went to college majoring in computer science at a respectable college, and now working a comfortable office job making well over 6 figures.
@lookItsJayden
@lookItsJayden 3 года назад
I’m 9 years into the hvac field, just started my own business at 26. I’m always telling the younger crowd to get into hvac or trades.
@dc76384
@dc76384 3 года назад
The problem is kids in high school are constantly bombarded with a push to go to college. The scare tactic of ' You'll never accomplish anything in life, if you don't go to college.' As a result trades are looked down upon.
@sebaj8386
@sebaj8386 3 года назад
Even though it’s less debt and a lot more money in some instances
@mibz1117
@mibz1117 3 года назад
True not everyone was born to go to college.
@Kyp031
@Kyp031 3 года назад
Most schools including mine offer tech programs and this was 14 years ago and its still true today.
@dc76384
@dc76384 3 года назад
@@Kyp031 offered..but not pushed like a traditional college education.
@rickyboi8248
@rickyboi8248 3 года назад
I mean frankly like, I noticed at my HS a lot of kids would say 'ill just do a trade' without understanding that it is *very* hard physical work much of the time.
@cindymorrison_caravanlifej3536
@cindymorrison_caravanlifej3536 3 года назад
He is a good spokesman for trades training
@ljv2094
@ljv2094 3 года назад
Swear to God I'm a service technician myself and he speaks the same language I do I freaking love this trade best decision of my life
@davebauman4991
@davebauman4991 3 года назад
7:00 In a nutshell.
@prepordietryin9119
@prepordietryin9119 3 года назад
Yes he was. He shows every side of it. Hopefully the video will help somebody else who's wanting to get to the trade decide whether they want to do it or not.
@MarcusReyes
@MarcusReyes 3 года назад
I love being a maintenance tech, I've learned alot from residential HVAC and it's been a 2 year journey for me so far 💪✈️ type 1 certified and going for universal on the 23rd of October 🏆🙏
@jakefromspace4659
@jakefromspace4659 3 года назад
How does it pay? I work in industrial/commercial maintenance too.
@vsiegel
@vsiegel 3 года назад
Things like repairing HVAC are one of the few things that are really hard to automate, even with good humanoid robots and good AI.
@chiyerano
@chiyerano 3 года назад
This is something I have been thinking about for awhile now.
@kupomomo1712
@kupomomo1712 3 года назад
Ironically, as a programmer, I can see automation for programming happen first than these trades lol
@TheNitroPython
@TheNitroPython 3 года назад
@@kupomomo1712 you ain’t lying my dog, I’m studying cs and I 100% agree. Coding will definitely go first before these trades jobs lol
@kindlez98
@kindlez98 3 года назад
So true, everyone wants a college diploma without knowing if it's even worth it, we tell kids to take the most important desicion in their life
@rjoukecu
@rjoukecu 3 года назад
The problem is, that lot of people go into really useless economic colleges by my opinion. There will be always a shortage of teachers, doctors and engineers. But I get it, not everyone can handle the amount of stress which goes hand by hand with amount of knowledge you need to remember.
@smashing_data4292
@smashing_data4292 3 года назад
@@rjoukecu I went to college for computer science. Many weekend nights I will be at one of the engineering buildings on campus and I would look out the window to see the rest of the student population partying. I'm thinking, good luck paying off your student debt. Even if you have a mechanical or electrical engineering degree it would be a good idea to spend a few years working a skilled trade job.
@rodU65
@rodU65 3 года назад
Yeah. Unless you work in the field, having a Art degree or master do not add anything to a office work. Dont expect a good salary just becouse...
@maroon9273
@maroon9273 3 года назад
@@rodU65 even any working environment unless the graduate has experience either working in the field or intern/projects or competitions. Some jobs will accept the applicant having master or PhD degree in order to be enployed.
@MellowsPlay
@MellowsPlay 3 года назад
I really hope young men get the opportunity to join great and affordable trade programs. Not everyone needs a degree in college but everyone has a home and business that needs heat, AC, light. Respect to all SKILLED workers. Because everyone has a skill to offer.
@bobroberts2371
@bobroberts2371 3 года назад
Another hurdle to overcome are HR / Hiring managers that have no idea what they are hiring for. Too many want to see multiple degrees for a job that really should be focused on ability. Those degrees can be in German Polka History with a minor in Aztec Household Studies even though they carry zero relevance for the job at hand. I straddle the line between degreed electromechanical engineering and tech level. HR depts look down on me because I have nothing beyond college prep high school however, every engineer I've worked with treats me as a peer. . . and a vital asset with the ability to solve real world problems using book and experiential knowledge.
@naufrage0
@naufrage0 3 года назад
Shout out to the HR lady (Rosy) who hired my bf for his dream job on the spot because she saw his potential and passion instead of his lack of degrees. Now he’s a programmer and it changed his life. We’re both following our dreams now and on top of that making a lot of money. I wish I could hug that lady she has no idea how much she did for my sweet boy by giving him a chance when others didn’t, just because he couldn’t afford college. And now they’re paying for him to get a degree on top of that.
@maroon9273
@maroon9273 3 года назад
HR is a bane and causing a lot of job vacancy and shortages due to their lack of experience and skillset on job postings. A lot of jobs, however they add unnecessary qualifications so nobody can land a job at their companies.
@lucysmith4242
@lucysmith4242 3 года назад
You don't really know how much you are missing until you go to school for the degree if that makes sense. I'm sure there is a good chance you know more useful information than the degreed engineers, and can probably do the same job as them, but the schooling is no joke, you learn about 1/3 on the job, 1/3 from school, and 1/3 from yourself/personal projects and research papers you read
@bobroberts2371
@bobroberts2371 3 года назад
@@lucysmith4242 said ": You don't really know how much you are missing until you go to school for the degree if that makes sense. " Well yea, nothing like missing out on Liberal / Progressive / Socialist / Marxist / Chants of Down with the USA. There are too many job postings that require / prefer a college degree ( as in any degree will do ) rather than assessing if the candidate can do the job. A real world example is a horse riding instructor position that required a college degree in any field. Who would you rather have teaching you, someone that has a degree in German Polka History with a minor in Mayan Household Studies or someone that grew up on a farm with horses?
@lucysmith4242
@lucysmith4242 3 года назад
@@bobroberts2371 you're wildly lost I'm talking calculus 1 to 3, vibrations, dynamic systems, formal drafting, electro mechanical devices, differential equations, programming, machine design, failure theory, statics etc. Those things...
@thejames8230
@thejames8230 3 года назад
I’m working as an apprentice in an elevator company. I probably would’ve never considered this opportunity without the two cents video about high paying trades. Thanks! :)
@jamessullivan5864
@jamessullivan5864 3 года назад
Any advice for the interview? I have an elevator apprenticeship interview at the end of this month
@Quickslow87
@Quickslow87 3 года назад
I have lots of respect for people who work in the trades. While college educated, I have put in the effort to learn electrical, flooring, plumbing, etc. to help maintain my home. These are not easy tasks and those who do it for a living work wonders.
@arturotorres6437
@arturotorres6437 3 года назад
Same, College educated but Texas Storm, Uri, thought me to seek knowledge on Plumbing while Plumbers were high in demand. RU-vid is a wealth of information and I have learned a lot of DIY stuff such as repairing my vechile and basic trades.
@thomasmorrison3279
@thomasmorrison3279 3 года назад
College use to be almost a guarantee of financial success. Not any more. Also, there are so many useless degrees that do not make you employable. If I had it to do over again, I would study a skilled trade and start my own business. More young adults should study skilled trades.
@bobroberts2371
@bobroberts2371 3 года назад
Learning a salable skill is what almost guarantees financial success. That along with saving / investing your pennies.
@Jordan-xg4pn
@Jordan-xg4pn 3 года назад
Hmmm... get mine one after my Bachelor's then
@SKY911
@SKY911 3 года назад
Trades is not for everyone, I went to trade school now I am studying computer science.
@robschn
@robschn 3 года назад
great series! I would love an episode on people in tech working two very high paying jobs remotely. I read an article where some are netting anywhere from 300k to 1mil doing it and it's really fascinating. They don't even have to do well because of how in demand tech jobs are they can just rotate through companies. I was tempted myself to do it, but I could never manage the stress of having two different schedules and responsibilities.
@larcomj
@larcomj 3 года назад
. if your going for medicine, law, engineering then ya school can work out great. There is an overproduction of college grads. There needs to be a better integration between school and industry.
@lucysmith4242
@lucysmith4242 3 года назад
Only half of STEM graduates are employed in STEM fields And then look at the graduation rates of stem programs for particular universities. My University had a 16% 4 year graduation rate for engineering and a 40% graduation rate (no time limit) for engineering. So 40% graduate, and only 20% of that 40% wind up working in that field. So yeah, it sounds good but it isn't easy
@Chasing-the-outdoors
@Chasing-the-outdoors 3 года назад
When I graduated high school, I thought I’d just work hard and get promoted and all that. The world is just broken on that sense now, hard work isn’t appreciated. It worked somewhat. I’m a hydraulic tech and make good money, no debt. But now I’m in community college and learning computer science. Also, I’ve said it a dozen times. Working overtime is worse than any job. No life is no life, no matter the pay.
@T6travels
@T6travels 3 года назад
Which is what happens when your in the trades and not everyone talks about it. “You can make six figures in the trades” yeah well that’s 60-70 hour weeks easy
@JD-qf8ul
@JD-qf8ul 3 года назад
@@T6travels exactly you will destroy yourself to get that kind of money in the trades
@lucysmith4242
@lucysmith4242 3 года назад
@@JD-qf8ul it's the same thing in a lot of fields. Even white collar fields, I think it's just work culture
@karnez05
@karnez05 3 года назад
Man I've been an electrician for 7 years, the trades aren't for everyone
@shamoshes6980
@shamoshes6980 3 года назад
I hear ya
@ejrocks123
@ejrocks123 3 года назад
Please speak on this my brother is an electrician 6 figure and he’s burnt out 5am start times, back issues. Not knocking trades its a great way to survive but you gotta be built for it 100
@karnez05
@karnez05 3 года назад
@@ejrocks123 my feet are messed up bad, I also have anxiety now from the hieghts I've had to work with just a harness an God. The trades is good to make more than minimum wage, but its best to get a non physical job
@Yandel21ableify
@Yandel21ableify 3 года назад
Learn to code.
@maroon9273
@maroon9273 3 года назад
@@Yandel21ableify and IT/Cloud.
@zhen1763
@zhen1763 3 года назад
I learn basic plumbing when I work in home Depot. And alot of contractors and DIYer do come and ask for advice. Some was really easy, other were tough question require years old experience to answer it. AI and robots can't really replace those field yet, they are tough labor jobs require you to go down and dirty. Put it in simple way College: white collar job Trades: blue collar job
@kossmanneault683
@kossmanneault683 3 года назад
I remember in high school, a teacher telling me I better go to college or else I'd have to work for a living. That's why we don't have skilled laborers. The education system was to busy selling degrees.
@vicvic2081
@vicvic2081 3 года назад
Hurts my soul
@TechReviewish
@TechReviewish 2 года назад
I worked as a Carpenter for 3 years after highschool. I'm now in my 3rd year of college as a Molecular Biology major. I can say with confidence that my time as a Carpenter was transforming and just as, if not more, challenging to learn. It's 100% a legit career path. I made about 60k in my last year and I was still an apprentice. Journeymen in my area of the country make 75-90k annually. The trades just weren't for me, and college just isn't for others. We need both kinds of people to thrive, so show respect to our hard working trades workers too.
@FIR2031
@FIR2031 3 года назад
I'm glad I went to college majoring in computer science at a respectable college, and now working a comfortable office job making well over 6 figures.
@IntelligentInsights876
@IntelligentInsights876 3 года назад
Yes sir a young man working with his hands.
@manuelgonzalez3644
@manuelgonzalez3644 3 года назад
I am a truck driver, but I am now going to college to earn a finance major and hopefully become an Investment Banker.
@presenceofeden2949
@presenceofeden2949 3 года назад
College doesn't teach real skills. There are better ways to learn. There are accredited certificates that teach you real live skills
@lukecwolf
@lukecwolf 3 года назад
I grew up in central Massachusetts, where there was extreme pressure to get kids into college; guidance counselors always asked which college you were thinking of in sophomore and junior year. That only gave me the weird idea of what a college idea could get me with little grounding in reality. In reality, 7 years after high school, i make a decent income running a small electronics store and repairshop, almost the same amount my dad as an electrical engineer. Few college skills applied. . It may be anecdotal, but it frustrated me to realize that high schools can use number of students enrolled in college as such a great selling point. Guidance counselors don't seem to be changing soon imo, so i hope more videos like these can help the next generation.
@purplegold714
@purplegold714 3 года назад
A lot of these trade schools are charging an arm and leg to get in. My advice is find a contractor who you can work for and learn as you go.
@alarcon99
@alarcon99 3 года назад
many of these trade jobs at utilities will not only require you to pass an aptitude test (POSS or MASS) and some of the programs will require some college (associate) in addition to the apprenticeship. Go to your local union hall to get more info and if you are still in HS consider going into the NAVY or Air Force where you can sign up for a trade type of job and get training (The military needs electricians, plumbers and builders too) while getting paid. And being a veteran can help with the hiring process.
@cameroncunningham204
@cameroncunningham204 3 года назад
I work in healthcare (Radiology) with certificates in three modalities and I make well over $100k a year w/no overtime and I spent exactly two years at a community college to obtain my credentials I have friends/family with multiple degrees who don’t earn even $50k a year Unless you intend to enter into STEM college is absolutely unnecessary
@AOMVideoProductions
@AOMVideoProductions 3 года назад
Crazy how well that turned out for you!!! The only little caveat I would add is that you had a CC that offered healthcare degrees as not all have such programs, which is a shame.
@cameroncunningham204
@cameroncunningham204 3 года назад
@@AOMVideoProductions I’m surprised by that..healthcare will be even more in demand as more people begin retire and need care. Our population is getting much older and as a whole our health care system won’t be able to handle it. The demand for people with credentials/specialized training will skyrocket
@Yandel21ableify
@Yandel21ableify 3 года назад
In NYC radiology is a 4 year degree though. I wanted to go for Physical therapist but you need to do like a doctorate on that. Degree inflation will hit most healthcare professions.
@cameroncunningham204
@cameroncunningham204 3 года назад
@@Yandel21ableify 4 year degree in Radiology is an absolute waste of time...consider relocation, areas with shortages are more advantageous Vs large metropolitan areas. Once you have your credentials you can return to NY and demand higher wage without incurring the cost of loan debet. I self financed my schooling and have no student loan debt to this day
@Yandel21ableify
@Yandel21ableify 3 года назад
@@cameroncunningham204 The same i could say for Nursing. You could do Nursing with a 2 year degree but now you need a bachelor too. Well that sounds like a good plan.
@jethancheta873
@jethancheta873 3 года назад
It’s a good thing Philippines provides full free tuition in state colleges and universities.
@bobroberts2371
@bobroberts2371 3 года назад
In the US, state colleges are pretty inexpensive for a resident so there isn't as much of a gap between free and low cost as you might think.
@jethancheta873
@jethancheta873 3 года назад
@Roberto Mundo probably ‘cause most educated ones go overseas🤔. There’s not much opportunity here I guess
@gabygabi7751
@gabygabi7751 3 года назад
What? Is this real? can you tell me some of that university.
@retiredinbali9565
@retiredinbali9565 3 года назад
Doing these jobs requires hard skills. Most office jobs do not. Another point that is not made in this video is that trades people go home at night with a sense of accomplishment. Most office workers do not go home with this feeling.
@Fossillarson
@Fossillarson 3 года назад
Keep in mind our bodies get older keep moving forward!! Move up Start at bottom Finish on top !
@kaitreehouse2258
@kaitreehouse2258 3 года назад
True story. Facts. 👏🏽 Good job on this video.
@maroon9273
@maroon9273 3 года назад
I would've been a manufacturing trademen or healthcare licensed professional either in CT or EEG Tech or manufacturing (CNC, 3D print/additive manufacturing). Get my certificate/ license and job training. Then go to college for electronics engineering. During breaks I'll learn MRI (CT Tech program), or more advanced CAD and 3D printing/additive manufacturing and programming coding skillsets.
@jainanan911
@jainanan911 3 года назад
It wasn't a cultural shift. They flat out told us, it's either go to college or die.
@eyerule6153
@eyerule6153 3 года назад
agreed
@philg7528
@philg7528 3 года назад
That's because those egg head guidance counselors would've never left Best Buy, Target, or Gamestop without college.
@vicvic2081
@vicvic2081 3 года назад
It's crazy man..this why people dying of overdoses and suicides. How can they lie like that?
@philg7528
@philg7528 3 года назад
@@vicvic2081 I don't even think it's a lie. I think many who promote this idea just live in a bubble and don't see far beyond it. They see a tradesman in dirty clothes and assume we're barely making over minimum wage.
@rur1279
@rur1279 3 года назад
Props to him. I wish him all the success in the world
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 3 года назад
There are many jobs that you don't need a college degree that make $50K or more. Unfortunately, we live in a world where you have to choose the job that makes the most money over what you actually want to do. While you may love art history, what job are you going to get out of college that pays enough to pay off that $100K in student loan debt?
@whiskybooze
@whiskybooze 3 года назад
Can't outsource the trades either. You going to fly someone in from India to fix your Toliet? Frame a house? Repair the bridge? What about when lighting hits a transformer at 2am? Also, since no one is taking these jobs or wanting to do them/focused on college. Sure the parts might not cost much to fix your plumbing issues, but what's stopping that plumber from charging you a $100/hr for labor? You want that pipe that just burst at 4am fixed right before it floods the whole house right? People don't understand that trades people can and do make good money. Our neighbor is a retired electrician in his 60's whos still in good shape. Just take care of yourself and don't have bad habits and you'll be ok.
@tylero8595
@tylero8595 3 года назад
Ive been a plumber/gas fitter for 20 years now. Started my own business 5 years ago. 2 years ago we hit $1million in sales. Last year we did $3mil. This year we are on track to $5mil. I never thought I would be in this position in my life. If I can do this, anyone can. Hopefully we can keep growing. All of the success we have had has been from the team Ive been building. People are your path to success. Most of my techs are better, smarter and faster than myself. Im just stubborn and determined. Trades are a great route to a good life and opportunities.
@vicvic2081
@vicvic2081 3 года назад
How do I start? These unions don't want me
@luhern8359
@luhern8359 3 года назад
I couldn't physically do a trade, but I recommend that to someone who doesn't want to go to college. A trade is better than just a Plain HS diploma.
@itsDjjayyArt
@itsDjjayyArt 3 года назад
Some trades don't require you to be physical
@philipjdry1234
@philipjdry1234 3 года назад
I didn't go to college, instead I abandoned school at 8th grade and been building my business and portfolio, and now at 30 am retired, still getting 6 figures, I live a modest life
@Hecameup
@Hecameup 3 года назад
I worked a an Electrician as a young adult before I became a fulltime Landlord I looked at it as an opportunity to build wealth early on in life Also a lot of trades ppl, eventually finish college, usually after starting a small business or moving into management roles
@JonathanAriasInsightPodcast
@JonathanAriasInsightPodcast 3 года назад
Major respect for this guy !
@Jaigarful
@Jaigarful 2 года назад
Something that needs to be said: Many trades do take a toll on your body. Non-ergonomic positions, long hours, etc. You can definitely make a good enough living off of it, but you also need to hit the employer jackpot. I took a job right out of college that didn't require college but was definitely a skilled laborer kindof job. Made about double the average income for my area, but it wore me down after a couple years.
@jasonvecoli2607
@jasonvecoli2607 3 года назад
i just started a handyman business in southern Florida.I'm so glad I didn't go to college.
@brettascott124
@brettascott124 3 года назад
I love the two hosts and my two cents videos.
@pbsvoices
@pbsvoices 3 года назад
Us too! Thanks for watching :)
@Jeff-bd4gg
@Jeff-bd4gg 3 года назад
I have a 4 year degree I got in my 20’s and a 2 yearstrade degree I earned in my 30’s. I make far more now with my trade degree than I ever could with my bachelors degree.
@juice12222
@juice12222 3 года назад
It's just like anything else out there... You have to love what you do. I don't see my self waking up every morning being excited to go repair an air conditioning unit. Some people might, some people might not.
@jonathandjing1065
@jonathandjing1065 3 года назад
I recently graduated from college, I am working in Non- destructive Testing (NDT) in Hong Kong. We work In power plants, offshore oil plants, work for companies building rockets 🚀 etc. It’s hard work ans requires a lot of license but the payment is great. With the first license in Radiographic testing the payment is already at nearly 50k that’s after 6 months to year, depending on the companies and government requirements
@pbsvoices
@pbsvoices 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing. Best of luck!
@Myairetheartist
@Myairetheartist 3 года назад
This is the sign to whoever needs it !! - GET INTO INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
@ptyleranodon3081
@ptyleranodon3081 3 года назад
I grew up watching my grandpa fix things around his and my mom's house (he was a carpenter by trade). As an adult I gave in to the pressure to get college educated. In some ways I'm glad I did, but the debt was a nightmare and I find my job to be frankly boring at times. We moved into a house with an unfinished basement about 5 years ago and I have slowly finished most of it myself. There's been a lot of learning involved but I've loved working with my hands. When it comes to my kids, as long as they do hard and honest work it doesn't matter whether they become a college educated desk jockey or a skilled worker. Either way their dad will be proud of them.
@maar3250
@maar3250 3 года назад
The stigma of younger generations not wanting to do any sort of jobs that involves manual labor IS ALSO REAL IN INDONESIA. I think we need to fix how we educate kids from both the school and at home. I was blessed to have been educated in a family who sees that all jobs are important; trash collector is equally important to a doctor. And most importantly, any job is good as long it is morally and ethically correct; other people opinion about your job title does not hurt who you are... Unless you decide to "feel" hurt.
@jessicabixler1658
@jessicabixler1658 3 года назад
The sad thing is 60k is the average or median income...half our population makes less.
@bobroberts2371
@bobroberts2371 3 года назад
Generally, skill =pay rate. Some jobs are interchangeable and have very little learning curve so they pay less. While every job is needed, you just can't pay someone 6 fig to stock store shelves.
@surfingtothestars
@surfingtothestars 3 года назад
Where did you get this data from?
@chortleboy
@chortleboy 3 года назад
Glad you got out of the Badlands and Kensington Ave…I grew up not far from there amd got out of there and moved out to Colorado and got a job cooking 25years ago stuck with it and now I’m a chef trained chef…never went to college…worked hard and stuck with it and make a livable wage which is tough to pull off in Colorado
@svongsa
@svongsa 3 года назад
$11000/month is a lot of money. Good job! !! Great guy!! Good outlook!
@willporter2630
@willporter2630 3 года назад
We need more people like Luis Santiago. But gotta say he may not be building a college debt but he's definitely building up a health debt (10:22) with all that overwork mental/physical stress combined with fast food drive thrus eating on the go. A sign of the times unfortunately.
@mibz1117
@mibz1117 3 года назад
That's why he mention he would have done it sooner to retire maybe around 55
@Ohiostategenerationx
@Ohiostategenerationx 3 года назад
If I had it to do over again I would be an electrician. It's great money and not paying off student loans the rest of my life. I didn't finish college either but knowing what I know now it would be a trade for sure.
@rjsimpkins2911
@rjsimpkins2911 3 года назад
If academic degrees lead to professional licenses, you can do OK. Vocational training will also put you in a good place, if you choose correctly and will position you for self employment, which is the best. I recommend young people get some of both tech and academic, if they want to be closer to bullet proof.
@bactanite
@bactanite 3 года назад
When I worked in an Ontario casino in the 1990s, most of the people there had university degrees. Even the janitors had degrees. All these people ever got for their four years of study was a bad attitude.
@Danny-fs1hk
@Danny-fs1hk 3 года назад
What a great segment!
@JunixKuizon
@JunixKuizon 3 года назад
Same situation in Australia. Everyone is going to University with a plan of going into the 9 to 5. I do hope my son will choose to be a tradesman.
@katherinelangford981
@katherinelangford981 3 года назад
I own my own company, and it does well but if I had to start again it would be a trade for sure. I think I'd just enjoy the work. Plumbing, electrical or maybe drywalling or roofing. I'm currently doing my own roof at home.
@itsDjjayyArt
@itsDjjayyArt 3 года назад
Do u get vacation
@katherinelangford981
@katherinelangford981 3 года назад
@@itsDjjayyArt yes. I don't work weekends or holidays. And I take of 10 to 14 days off at the end of August into labour day to go usually on a big portaging or camping trip with friends anywhere from 6 to 10 of us. This summers was 4 provinces and 5 national parks but just me and my best friend. And then I take off Dec 23rd to Jan 2nd. Usually see family and friends and do a small trip. This year is winter camping for 2 days at a National Park. I like to be outdoors when I get time off. Lots of kayaking, hiking, canoeing, biking, etc.
@itsDjjayyArt
@itsDjjayyArt 3 года назад
@@katherinelangford981 Nice 👌 I hope i have vocations like that as a welder or plasterer
@katherinelangford981
@katherinelangford981 3 года назад
@@itsDjjayyArt I'd imagine if you're working contracts you can pick your own schedule more. Of course doing that may not get you the same benefits like health insurance plans or investment plans that a full time employer may offer. I know right now construction and trade jobs are 8n huge demand and guys freelancing can get a premium because no one else is available. So you could go hard, make a bunch of bank and then take time off. Just make sure to be saving for long term and emergencies of course. Get your own ROTH IRA and 401k plans going if you're going to be self employed.
@brejaimecastillo8851
@brejaimecastillo8851 3 года назад
The average starting pay for a Field Service Tech in Dallas is about 62-67k a year. My company was so desperate(2018) to find someone with both electrical hands on and minor computer skills. When they interviewed me with a few elect props to test my knowledge. They immediatley offered 77k above the HR recommended pay. Plus a sign on bonus of 5k. The more schools dummify our so called future of tomorrow these pay rate will rise.
@irfan__s939
@irfan__s939 3 года назад
In India you would found tons of people repairing fridge, ac with out degrees
@dhruvsingh34
@dhruvsingh34 3 года назад
True
@skyking6989
@skyking6989 3 года назад
I became an electrician and I love it. I make more $ than some of my friends with degrees. Best part? Zero debt!
@rene5861
@rene5861 3 года назад
Here in Texas they only “rEcRuIt” people who have experience but u need to be recruited to get the experience
@cincinnatuscincinnatus8541
@cincinnatuscincinnatus8541 3 года назад
You will never be rich but you will never be poor, when you become a HVAC tech. I have been an HVAC worker for 18 years and have moved to other states throughout my career. You take this trade anywhere. There is a massive shortage of people that want to learn this trade.
@sammythebear6448
@sammythebear6448 3 года назад
China has the same issue 9 million college graduates but only 50 % employed. The skilled trade has severe shortages.
@DanielJoyce
@DanielJoyce 3 года назад
You can make good money in the trade. Just remember to get more management skills in your 40s for when your back and knees start to go..MBA, program manager, whatever cert is needed to manage other people or larger tasks. Those degrees are usually very affordable and sometimes companies will pay towards them.
@vanforsman
@vanforsman 2 года назад
There isn't a housing shortage, the housing we have isn't being used because it was built on bailout money and investors betting other's money. We don't have a surging need for "skilled labor," we have a personal debt crisis that no jobs that are available can fix, and many jobs that are called unskilled that are paid poverty wages while their employers' executives and shareholders get bonuses and earnings. Good on Luis for finding success.
@jimda4910
@jimda4910 3 года назад
Right on brother, once you get established in a few years under your belt and you are successful oh, don't forget to Mentor. The construction business shot itself in the foot when it went did away with the Apprentice programs now it's up to us to bring the kids up behind us.
@Valhalla_Heathen
@Valhalla_Heathen 3 года назад
I’ve been thinking about becoming a heavy equipment operator
@bobroberts2371
@bobroberts2371 3 года назад
Start early, work a ton of hours , save / invest your pennies and retire early. I've seen too many young guys buy all sorts of stuff, drive a 90 K diesel truck that smokes other drivers out then have nothing to show for it a few years down the road.
@Valhalla_Heathen
@Valhalla_Heathen 3 года назад
@@bobroberts2371 great advice my friend, God bless you and your family 🙏🏻
@Pnoysneakerhead24
@Pnoysneakerhead24 3 года назад
I love the education system here in the US
@pauldionne7261
@pauldionne7261 3 года назад
all schools should have a Vocational Center in high schools 3periods a day 9th -12th grades when graduate you all ready have first certification for jobs careers also jobs should be on job training like it used to be
@maroon9273
@maroon9273 3 года назад
Also, add in technology center as well for inspired program developers, technicians, specialist and future engineers/scientist. So they can have a easier pathway surviving stem majors or getting into the workforce.
@hotcakesism
@hotcakesism 3 года назад
@@maroon9273 totally agree with that. It's insane that these types of programs are not ubiquitous.
@maroon9273
@maroon9273 3 года назад
@@hotcakesism yes, every community in this country need to set up a grassroot after school programs. So the generation will avoid being another statistic.
@hotcakesism
@hotcakesism 3 года назад
@@maroon9273 yeah I made a lot of the classic millennial mistakes and have often wondered why they let me graduate high school without some kind of trade... lol... Still trying to figure it all out. But a lot of these problems could be avoided with adequate availability of career opportunities for young adults to get started right away.
@decarlo_3524
@decarlo_3524 3 года назад
Good stuff white 💯💯💯💪🏾
@NightNurseMike
@NightNurseMike 3 года назад
To buy a house in San Jose you need to make like 250k a year
@AfrooBlack
@AfrooBlack 3 года назад
I was a HVAC tech for 2 weeks and quit. My first job i woke up at 7am and ended it at 11pm. Then had to do it all over again the next day?? Nah I dipped. Didn't go to school so it was a good opportunity but I'm not meant for labor work I think lol. Now I'm a data engineer, working from home, making good money. Just used the internet to learn and obtained certs. Make more than my friend who has his PH.d. He always get so jealous. I just laugh.
@hotcakesism
@hotcakesism 3 года назад
Sounds interesting, where did you start with that?
@AfrooBlack
@AfrooBlack 3 года назад
@@hotcakesism With what, Data Engineering?
@hotcakesism
@hotcakesism 3 года назад
@@AfrooBlack yes! Sorry that wasn't more clear.
@AfrooBlack
@AfrooBlack 3 года назад
@@hotcakesism It's all about the certifications. If you wanna get into IT, always start with getting certifications. Will get you interviews very fast. Next is hands on knowledge. Always do labs. ALWAYS. Explaining to a hiring manager what you've done with no work experience always impresses them. So in my case, I got 5 certifications. In 4 months. Had no job at the time, so had the time. Funny thing is I had a interview on May 26 and when he looked at my linkedin, he was so impressed with the certs he pushed it to May 19, the next day lol and hired me. So for data engineering I focused around Azure. Mainly Azure data factory, pipelines, a little of databricks and SQL. That alone was enough. Also I make 100k+. Reason? The company I work for is in NY and I live in GA. Meaning I'm getting NY pay. Also anyone reading this, start off as a data analyst and move up to a data engineer. That's the best path. Wish I did that.
@hotcakesism
@hotcakesism 3 года назад
@@AfrooBlack fantastic, thank you for the roadmap! I'll make notes before I forget. Congrats on optimizing your income against your expenses! Lol
@GreyCrowe
@GreyCrowe 3 года назад
I'm interested to see if current concerns/battles over "right to repair" leads to an increase/decrease in individual manufacturers requiring singularly-specialized technicians for proprietary goods and maintenance tools..... And, based on the outcomes, if that increases or decreases the demand for tradespeople
@oscar.p3214
@oscar.p3214 3 года назад
I love construction , but I don’t like the recession cycle boom / bust . Plus wages haven’t kept pace for the masses . 20years commercial painter before I pulled the rip cord .
@TokenSelf
@TokenSelf 3 года назад
One of the great crimes of the US education system is failure to provide free college. Most developed countries offer free, or nearly-free higher education while the wealthiest nation on earth saddles people with lifetimes of crippling debt. The time and effort is always worthwhile. Even for people going into trade careers. The benefits of an educated populace to society is immeasurable. It's individual cost that sinks it.
@dc76384
@dc76384 3 года назад
Taking on debt is an individual choice. Free education just means sebody else paid for it. Nothing in life worth having is free
@UnbreakableM1nd
@UnbreakableM1nd 3 года назад
Lol, who says we have a lack of skilled trades or they can't be outsourced? First hand experience living through economic woes of Alberta, Canada. Contractors just hire a bunch of foreign workers from the Philippines, Mexico, Vietnam, India, etc. And these foreign workers are not only cheap, but extremely skilled, perhaps even better than the ones we have in Canada. They were very good professionals back in their home countries. And you have to look deeper behind why there appears to more trade jobs available, is it a sustainable future? Are you ultimately working in the real estate sector to maintain outrageously priced homes? Or are those trades being used to advance America's technological strengths or improve their infrastructure?
@tipsandtricks6071
@tipsandtricks6071 3 года назад
My degree has been worthless. I should have gone to trade school.
@Valhalla_Heathen
@Valhalla_Heathen 3 года назад
We all learn from our mistakes man
@Yandel21ableify
@Yandel21ableify 3 года назад
Dont go to Law School or get a Masters...lol
@surfingtothestars
@surfingtothestars 3 года назад
Still can. Still got time 🤷‍♂️
@mp3lwgm
@mp3lwgm 3 года назад
Container Homes can be built elsewhere.
@prepordietryin9119
@prepordietryin9119 3 года назад
I've never seen a vocational degree cost $33,000. That's insanity. It cost about $6,000 total for books and tuition at the local college in my city and the other local colleges also are around the same price.
@Alleycat1111
@Alleycat1111 3 года назад
... vocational nursing can be up to $100,000!
@MrTmenzo
@MrTmenzo 3 года назад
For profit schools
@123saycheese
@123saycheese 3 года назад
Go Luis!! 👏🏻👏🏻
@adaml5851
@adaml5851 3 года назад
Whatever there is a shortage of... Is what the media pushes as the best careers ever. ENGINEERS, TRADES.
@GadgetsGearCoffee
@GadgetsGearCoffee 3 года назад
The coincidence of the editing: "I didn't want people to go to that dark space", proceeds to enter into a dark room with only a headlamp to light the space to get to the breaker LOL
@forevershampoo
@forevershampoo 3 года назад
It sucks when you are in college and you know its a sham and the football coach makes 2million/yr
@elir.torres8642
@elir.torres8642 3 года назад
You can make more money in other fields while doing less work with more pay sitting on air conditioning. Go to college and get a BS in the STEM period. I know best I grew up in a HVAC family trust me!
@Elfunko99x
@Elfunko99x 3 года назад
Lol, the two narrorators are the NeoLib whisperers 🤣😂
@dowardwashington9958
@dowardwashington9958 2 года назад
1 thing that is very true, back in the day schools valued teaching trades and realized that college wasn't for everyone 😑 nowadays schools are pushing you to college/ McDonald's
@Gabeoffduty
@Gabeoffduty 3 года назад
I literally just got an HVAC job so that's cool
@sct4040
@sct4040 3 года назад
Some blue collars jobs pay very well, no need to attend collage to be an electrician or plumber. Though I am very glad I went to college, was educated and resulted in my white collar jobs that also paid well. I really enjoyed my time in college, was a growing experience for me. I hated the idea of having to leave that comfortable environment and having to go to work.
@hellobyehi176
@hellobyehi176 3 года назад
That's true. I'm.in construction management. I started getting paid 30 and now.im at 34!!
@userdag07
@userdag07 3 года назад
Yes, it rings a bell when I tried to go into UTI in california and they asked for so much and sometimes for things I didn't have, to many obstacles set by the baby boomers and they are the type that I don't care I'm going to die type and for the rich who need more then a simple you are only setting up yourself to fail, when death comes you will see the path taken it is not the one had to be taken some people can hear all those there are dead and how they are in the wrong we must stay focus and try to fix our mistakes and stay as a good human
@n13cougars
@n13cougars 3 года назад
Man I don’t know this dude but I’m proud of Luis. Good stuff man.
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