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For all this. He's been successfully fence sitting and playing the nice guy for years but he's really just a snake and hides behind his persona to avoid true accountability.
I agree with everything homie said . One thing in the Cole passive aggressive fake nobility timeline that he missed was when in the height of the social justice moment of 2020 , Cole unprompted went at NoName for a whole song criticizing her activist tone on Twitter . When NoName responded back in song, he tried to act like he meant no disrespect and apologized .
why do u ppl literally just tell blatant lies. Noname literally called Cole out because he was silent in the midst of that social justice "moment". THEN cole RESPONDED to her with that song. if u genuinely remember it the way u said then go back and revisit the situation. Cole did nothing unprovoked, noname called him out on his silence during the time, snow on the bluff was his response to her. then she responded back with her song. go back and see
@@dominicharris5489 she never called him out. You're a liar . She called out hip hop . She never named any particular rappers . It was a tweet . Even Cole said himself he was defending his niggas aka fellow rappers . Stop emotionally leaping to defend someone when you ( like Cole) don't know what you're talking about . Google is your Kryptonite .
No he didn’t. I don’t like Drake, I’m a Push fan but the Duppy freestyle was the response to infrared and the opening shot with dis records. He stepped up & loss but he did step up.
@@brooklynmedina7676 And subsequently removed himself cause he ain’t want that pressure. He wasn’t standing 10 toes down I’ll give him 5 toes down at the most
@@XTheJokeDealer He stopped cause he lost. But he did fight, he made a great record with duppy and he stood by it. He didn’t go apologizing and saying he didn’t mean it.
Cole is a coward. He noticed that Drake & his media glazers (Mal, Ak, Adam22) were laying the ground for Drake to attack Cole and hope a comeback recovery after the beat down he took from Kendrick. Also Drake for a while has been poking Cole on social media. Cole saw the play and got afraid since he doesn’t wanna battle Drake coz he knows he owes too much to Drake and Drake could exploit that to son him. Cole is a hypocrite and a grandstander. That whole song was a pledge of allegiance and love letter to calm Drake down and bribe him in not attacking him since Cole left him to dry in the dot beef, then collabed with Metro, Daylyt, Asap, Future. And to secure that Drake doesn’t aim him he made sure to put some sneak disses at Kendrick so Drake glazers and Drake can latch on to. Cole is the ultimate poser, hypocrite and coward. He has no hip hop backbone. He first dissed Kendrick with that trash 7 minutes drill. Then the track was badly received by the culture. He then quickly apologized and pulled the song to duck the incoming Dot smoke. So yeah all in all Cole is a coward who now is trying to rewrite history and gaslight us.
Cole is such an interesting study in shooting yourself int he foot. First, he jumps out the window first (this is what people forget: in music form, J.Cole fired the first shot. He dissed Kendrick first with 7MD), regretted it because it was so lame, and backed out before Kendrick can even swing back at him. Totally erased his years of features where he kept claiming no other rapper can step to him rarara. Shot his credibility and removed himself from serious consideration for top rapper. After the smoldering carcass that was Drake when Kendrick was done with him, the tide turned on J.Cole. suddenly the internet apparently owed him an apology, he was a genius, he made the best business decision. People were back on J.Cole, with the people who remain reminding everyone of his J.Fold moment being dubbed haters. And now, after he drops Port Antonio, where he sneakily takes shots at Kendrick and sends a love letter to Drake in public probably because Drake is no longer answering the phone, he tries to take the moral high ground and act as if he didn't take part in the battle because he was too good for beef and that was all just for clout, money and "blood" as if he didn't want that too. Now people are realizing he's contradicting himself, he's fence sitting again, he's moralizing when competition is foundational to hip hop. Now F*CK J.Cole! Is back and louder than ever before Lol he coulda just left well enough alone and been better off. He got away with it. He did the stupidest thing a rapper could do and got away with it, but he couldn't just shut up
My God this is a goated comment 🤦🤦. Same thing I've been saying this whole time. All was ok and we had all already apologized to him and put him back up. What exactly was the need for this track🤦? Could have honestly just let sleeping dogs lie🤦
5:00 nah main, words mean things. He should have said, I didn’t care about winning the battle. I didn’t want to lose a bro. But he chose to say, I could have won the battle. All of his actions throughout this beef have proved that he couldn’t. Sure he has skills but he doesn’t have the whole package to win.
Dot beat Drake 50-0 it’s only one of the greatest battles because Drake participated in his slaughtering while Dot massacred Drake with uncovering the layers of Drake leaving him naked with nowhere to hide.
Yeah, no matter how many times I watch dissections and dissertations of this whole beef and threeway dynamic in retrospect, I come up with the same answer every time. Cole f****d himself when he released 7-minute drill, and he knew he messed up, which is why he quickly tried to do the closest thing to reversing or taking/walking back the record as possible. I love Cole still as an artist, too, always have. And he cant change that, I will always love his talent and music. But it disappointed me that he made such a rash decision to jump in and release a track like that, as intelligent and accomplished as he is
Cole is a coward snake. He noticed that Drake & his media glazers (Mal, Ak, Adam22) were laying the ground for Drake to attack Cole and hope for a comeback recovery after the beat down he took from Kendrick. Drake for a while has been poking Cole on social media. Cole saw the play, got afraid since he doesn’t wanna battle Drake coz he knows he owes too much to Drake and Drake could exploit that to son him. Cole is a hypocrite and a grandstander. That whole song was a love letter to calm Drake down and bribe him in not attacking him since Cole left him to dry in the dot beef, then collabed with Metro, Daylyt, Asap, Future. And to secure that Drake doesn’t aim him he made sure to put some sneak disses at Kendrick so Drake glazers and Drake can latch on to. Cole is the ultimate poser, hypocrite and coward. He has no hip hop backbone. He first dissed Kendrick with that trash 7 minutes drill. Then the track was badly received by the culture. He then quickly apologized and pulled the song to duck the incoming Dot smoke. So yeah all in all Cole is a coward who now is trying to rewrite history and gaslight us. Cole humble and wise persona has always been an act, to me. A whole personal Branding. I’m glad he put out that trash revisionist "port Antonio" coz he exposed himself to those who couldn’t see how much of a fake he’s always been.
27:37 I don’t respect it, as a Drake fan who knew this day could come and he needed to be prepared, he really wasn’t. He put his reputation on the line to enter a battle that he had no chance of winning on lyricism alone, with a weak strategy for victory against a formidable opponent (not to mention he had a decade to prepare). That’s not bold, brave or respectable, it was foolishly reckless, and he paid the price. Drake was outmanoeuvred on very metric, it was a very one-sided battle. Nobody thinks it was close apart from Drake’s most loyal fans.
Im no fan of Drake's but glad to see one stand up. The bar is so low for light skins that its nauseating. They are praised for the dumbest goofiest bare minimum of ish.
As a Drake hater, I have to say you are absolutely correct... but I still respect it. And the fact that Cole has done all the stuff that he's done and continues to flip-flop and play these silly revisionist pacifist aggressive games makes Drake look good for at least taking on the battle even tho he's been an extreme goofy with his antics and preparation.
Im no fan of Drake's but glad to see one stand up. The bar is so low for him and his brother Cole. Like people make any excuse possible to praise them than hold them accountable for their self induced Ls.
Yeah I didn't think it was close at all either. When people were saying Drake was winning, I was like how and against who? I was not giving him credit for going against 4 or 5 guys at the same time either, you wanted this beef with KDot all this time and you're going to drag the Weekend into it??? I don't know how long ago all these guys dissed you but none of them made the needle move like KDot did on Like That.
4:28 Honestly, Cole could have said something else if he didn't want it confused like: "It wasn't even bout da battle, I woulda lost a friend" Or "It was more than goin' to battle, I woulda lost my friend" It just sounds like he's humble bragging again so unnecessarily
Cole is a coward. He noticed that Drake & his media glazers (Mal, Ak, Adam22) were laying the ground for Drake to attack Cole and hope a comeback recovery after the beat down he took from Kendrick. Also Drake for a while has been poking Cole on social media. Cole saw the play and got afraid since he doesn’t wanna battle Drake coz he knows he owes too much to Drake and Drake could exploit that to son him. Cole is a hypocrite and a grandstander. That whole song was a pledge of allegiance and love letter to calm Drake down and bribe him in not attacking him since Cole left him to dry in the dot beef, then collabed with Metro, Daylyt, Asap, Future. And to secure that Drake doesn’t aim him he made sure to put some sneak disses at Kendrick so Drake glazers and Drake can latch on to. Cole is the ultimate poser, hypocrite and coward. He has no hip hop backbone. He first dissed Kendrick with that trash 7 minutes drill. Then the track was badly received by the culture. He then quickly apologized and pulled the song to duck the incoming Dot smoke. So yeah all in all Cole is a coward who now is trying to rewrite history and gaslight us.
The Schoolboy Q thing has never been verified and if it was true Cole should have included in the apology to Kendrick for the two to keep it clean and hiphop so the fact he didn’t makes him look worse now because he knew what was coming and didn’t say anything then. That is why him insinuating that he is above all this beef is so confusing.
I have a LOT of issues with Drake as a person and his music the last 6 years but he’ll always have my respect for standing 10 toes down and fighting and getting his ass whipped.
This guy Jermaine has been rapping for like 4+ years about how hell kill ANYONE on a song. Listen to Johnny Ps Candy and tell me he aint want smoke. Now hes like "oh this battle aint in"
That's what pisses me off about all of this. He's acting like people were pressuring him to go at somebody who challenged him for the crown like that's not *exactly* what he said he would do. Nigga be beating his chest on every song about how nobody can touch him. But when the time came to back all that shit up, he threw a punch, MISSED, and then said "you know what bro, I don't even really wanna fight you"
Goddamnit, Cole!! You are actually making me respect Drake more for at least going through the fire. He may be acting like a bitter bitch since he got curb stomped, but now it doesn’t look quite as bad after seeing what Cole is doing.
To your point about Wale not being weak. The thing with Kanye and Wale is that Kanye was currently going through a mental crisis when Cole dissed him and Wale was depressed. So it looks wack from Cole to diss them when they were both in poor mental states. Wale isn’t weak but he wasn’t in a good place. So it just looks bad and nobody called out Cole for that.
I think Wale responded with “Groundhog Day” and Cole never said anything after. Ironic name now because it seems like Cole repeating the same pattern of backing down.
Kanye wasnt going thru shit and if he was it was self inflicted based on his behavior and things that he did and said that he had control over, and wale wasnt no damn depressed. lmao do u know what depression is? Wale was and is just very sensitive and passive aggressive. J Cole did not diss them, he just spoke the truth about them, theres a difference. and what he said about them in each verse was the truth. Cole did not need to be called out for speaking his mind and he has the free will to do so.
@@lynchdj Cole didnt neeed to respond to that because he was not diffing wale in the first place, if people actually LISTENED to the verse he was encouraging wale and giving him advice. Wales sensitive response made all of you feel like Cole dissed him and that it shouldve warranted a response from Cole.
4:20 but later in the song he says to find a rapper better than him... And why would he have lost a bro? Why wouldn't Kendrick keep it strictly rap with him? ...Cole is soft af man
Because Cole went personal first, by downplaying kendrick's catalogue. You know kendrick would have dissected Cole while rapping military style knots around Cole 😂. That's why Cole quickly apologised because the audience told him 7min drill was whack (and I agree).
I watched this like six times he's funny as Hell. I think he mentioned Lil Yachty because of all the people he wrote for the city girls drake And a lot of other artists. Lil Yachty is the pin behind a few albums.
@@JerseyGirl381 he simply mentioned him because he’s talented. It’s quite simple. I’d expect all of the hip hop community to be on the same page with that.
When i found out J Cole droped out the Beef, I was like wtf is this!? I was ready for the heat but J Cole got out of the kitchen before sh** started cookin'.
No, K v d wasnt a great game for the same reasons you outlined. Kendrick washed aubrey 5-0. There was never a single moment where aubrey "held his own" or "put up a good fight". He was doomed from the second he opened his mouth.
This beef wasnt close. It was more like seeing an 8th seed team completely molly wop the heavy favorite 2x champion, and thats what made it one of the greatest.
exactly and because drake is so popular but in comparison to a true rapper the facade was so clear! that was so satisfying and that made it big. and not at all because it was a close game lol
Its unfortunate you gave Cole's gentle yet passive aggressive sounding song a pass. Its something you never do according to you and wont do again according to you. Im curious to know why Cole has that affect on ppl who normally dont behave that way according to them.
✨ The Poor J.Cole Syndrome ✨ It's definitely a "thing". . . SMH "J.Cole knows how to make the world feel sorry for him" - ThoughtCrimez He just always comes across as very fragile which encourages his fanbase to INFANTILIZE him and make excuses for his missteps.
aye, all imma say is Kendrick’s homies said his album was done but after this song he’s gonna add a few mores songs on his album talking grezzy to Cole, he better be ready for that dot smoke 😂😂😂
@@OmoZedyup, he even spilled some bars about how Cole still tight his bitch had control as her ringtone asking him if he gon respond, he gon make Cole kill himself😭😭
KENDRICK will ignore these like dogs barking at the caravan who is passing, he already won and is on some other plan and projects, he has a life to leave while some are still stuck on shits they can't swallow. all this shows how the two lytskins don't peep the black mentality at whole and take us for dumb by flipping the narratives all the time trying to confuse the masses and slides through. Kung-fu Kenny is direct and the lyrics are clear and intricate at the same time GENIOUS.
One could be a good songwriter snd bad rapper at the same time. 2 things can be true. But boat is talented tho, just not a good performer when it comes to rap.
@@randomcharacter6501 The point was during the sound cloud era there was talent to be found. Yachty being a part of that talented crowd still counts since he's putting out consistently good content regardless of his overall performance he's an obviously talented guy
I feel that Cole should have left this track in the tuck. Honestly everyone forgave him for dropping out. Once people saw how the battle was going people understood. Btw it was never confirmed that Q said anything. But they did say that all 3 had a conversation about keeping it to just rap but Drake decided otherwise. I’m a Kendrick and Cole fan and this just makes me sad to see him going out like this especially when he was in the clear.
You think the battle was a close thing? Boy just listen to the songs againx100 times. I think Drake was trapped. Kendrick started this prepared for Drake. I've never seen someone lose this bad in my life. EDIT: Me laughing when he counts Drake with the writers. I think he wrote the heart part 6 himself. One of the worst songs I've ever heard. Its bad on all levels. You don't believe those are cole's feelings? what? He said these these bad things. just because he apologised doesn't mean he "didn't mean it" or doesn't feel that way. I think you are responsible for what you do or say...Stay out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat
Cole always has these knee-jerk reactions through his career and then backtracks when he sees nobody is feeling it. He has a desperate need to be liked by everybody, so he constantly hides his hand and switches up.
For you to say yachty doesn’t have talent is blasphemous and corny. His unisex writing skills are a talent. The guy talking in the video keeping it G and you making the energy different with that commentary
11:14 You should sell that “it wouldn’t be called the greatest battle if it wasn’t competitive” argument to OVO. It’s completely wrong and doesn’t hold up because part of why it’s loved is because of the amount of content over the span of a week had never been be considered as possible. Secondly, what’s the best dunk contest of all time? It’s a classic because it as close or because Vince’s performance was that incredible?
Genuine question. Based on this year. Not just Port Antonio. Do you believe Cole even deserves to be in the Big 3 discussion? Regardless of who you rock with. Regardless of who you think won the Kendrick and Drake battle. Let’s be objective, we know who won.. Do you think Jole deserves the same respect anymore? I ask this because at least Drake got up and put some work in, even if you didn’t rock with it. Kendrick speaks for himself. But Cole? What has he done this year besides flip flop and run?
Even if we take your understanding of the “ I wouldn’t have lost the battle part” he’s basically saying he couldn’t have accepted a lost and would’ve lost his friend over it. So he’s a sore loser
😏..💭 On 'First Person Shooter,' I think Drake was throwing shots, and being fake and manipulative! 📍Remember the scoreboard with the Height, album amounts, etc?... (Drake got more albums because he's been stealing for years and has a gang of writers.) *He also wanted all them on his album together, but he know him and Kendrick was throwing shots at each other for years! (He tryed to son Kendrick for years always saying, He put him on, but Kendrick knew he was a fraud, a poser, a user, and beneath him skill wise!
@@thabangmatsepe863 how is writing act up for city girls, writing for drake, amongst others not talent? Along wit h his own songs that many ppl liked. I feel like that’s not even debatable
Well, after This past weekend full of revelations, Cole can’t run. TDE is on his ahh. It’s about to get real crazy real fast I fear. I can’t wait to see how Cole tries to get out of this one! 🤷🏽♀️
I think the timing of this record is bad timing, the J Cole memes and hate are still fresh. Personally I feel he should of considered saving this track for his album, it’s called “The Fall Off” right ? Kinda goes with the title and theme
I don’t think Cole was talking about literal bots. I believe he’s talking about the hive mentality of the stans and how the whole thing turned into something other than the music.
Cole got a free get out of jail card when he apologized and people respected his choice but this song here feels like he is contradicting everything he said in his apology and it not sitting right, I agree with deleted, its wishy washy and hellar lame.
Yall do realize Cole smacked diddy and stood up for Kendrick, homies isn’t soft at all and honestly people needed his perspective even if you don’t like it, he’s part of that beef even if he bowed out plus yall don’t even understand the lyrics he’s spitting
@@tekay7775 so he can call he’s friends some egregious ass shit for what, they talking bout wives and being a pedo, he just wanted a friendly competition like hope on a song like some “forever” type of thing, people be misunderstanding shit on purpose it feels like it
So , because he apologized that means he really didn't mean what he said ? What world are these young people living in you can still apologize about something you said because maybe he was forced to apologize and I think he meant what he said because he said it with his whole chest sticking out.
how the hell does apologizing to kendrick mean tha j cole betrayed drake??? hes cool with both Drake and Kendrick. backing out the beef is not leaving Drake hanging. these are all grown men lol
