Fedora is a great choice, mint is what the community would say but personally i find it bad, ugly and thinks it gives a wrong image of what the average linux distro is like
@@_Yojo_ Mint is alright but being Ubuntu based updates are slow and caused me problems years ago, I picked Fedora as it gets bleeding edge updates and seems stable so far
Linux mint is best distro. Right next to arch and fedora. Do you know why? Programs integrate directly to the operating system instead of running on top with Flatpaks and snaps. Arch is still hidden gem with its aur repo with packagebuild scripts.
@@x0vg5hs1 I might try Arch at a later date but don't feel ready yet, as for Mint I've used it in the past and had issues with drivers due to only 2 updates per year and yeah Fedora is good with stable but frequent updates and I haven't had to rely on Flatpaks yet and obvious not using snaps
Fedora is solid. Bugs are fairly rare. The one fedora spin I had a hard time with, was their kinoite immutable version. Luckily, some dudes made Aurora, which is a more stable spin of Fedora Kinoite. Works well for gaming too, which I honestly didn't expect as I installed it mainly to run docker containers for parts of my home automation, mainly modules of my VPN.
Im using Nobara as my main distro but dual boot it with arch since like a month. I find myself using arch more and more. But i only have good words on fedora! Still using it on my laptop
@@MyouKyuubi Oh thanks, I've learned a lot in the last 2 months of trying before I felt ready, only thing is the aur scares me though that might be a holdover from my awful experience on Manjaro last. That distro almost killed my enjoyment of Linux
Start with mint bro. And do it when you have time to learn everything with it for abou a month. There is and always be a massive learning curve. But it's easier than Windows after that.
Great to hear your at least considering it, if you have some spare room on your PC make a small partition and install a Linux distro, Ubuntu or an Ubuntu based distro like Pop OS or Linux Mint is probably best for a first timer as long as your hardware isn't from the last 6 months since they do staggered updates and thanks for the sub 😃
I would definitely recommend dual boot to start out and try switching some of your apps to more accessible open source alternatives to get a feel for whats available :)
@@PixelHamster X11 is good but it felt clunky for me with multiple monitors at least, but I also may have been doing something wrong, but Fedora doesn't ship X11 anymore but Wayland has been great so far
I love fedora KDE, it works just fine out of the box, has a mid tier expertise required, its cutting edge but also stable, great perfomance, a lot of packages and compatibility. Its the best for me and i dont see changing any time soon, maybe when i get the courage to install arch.
Here's a tip for modifying config files in /etc: I'm not sure how dnf handles that, but in general when the package manager tries to update files with your custom changes, it can't really do that without your input. Pacman or APK will leave the file alone and install the new version with like a .pacnew suffix added and tell you to merge these manually. On Debian, APT will prompt you with every single conflict during a system upgrade. Overall, it isn't great and you kinda have to babysit it. But oftentimes besides the config file there's also a .d directory (like /etc/sudoers.d), where you can put so called drop-in configuration files. These are usually loaded in the alphabetical order after the main file and any option set in them overrides what was set before.
My changes to dnf aren't custom, they're officially supported options just not on by default since I imagine it can cause issues for people with slower connections and I have no experience with Pacman or APK so I'm unsure what your talking about since I'm still very new to Linux but maybe I'll understand the rest of your comment in time
@@ZolaKluke I'm not saying you're doing something wrong by customizing dnf. The point of config files is to configure stuff after all But think about what happens when you have modified your /etc/dnf/dnf.conf and there's an update which brings a new version of that file. How is dnf supposed to update it? It could replace the current, modified file with the new version, but then your customization no longer applies. It could skip updating that file, but then you might not get a new default feature. And while this is very rare (I've never seen it happen) sometimes your changes might just be incompatible with the new version of the package. I've read up on it now, and it appears that each package can specify how dnf should handle such cases. Sometimes it will leave the file as is and install the new version with a .rpmnew suffix, sometimes it will rename your version to end with .prmsav and so on. The solution I'm suggesting is to put your customizations in something like* /etc/dnf/dnf.conf.d/90-make-it-faster.conf. Then any future updates can go smoothly as your changes will not conflict with the new defaults. * This is just an example. Support for this feature will only be available in the next major version of dnf and the path might be slightly different. But it already works for many other programs, for example /etc/sudoers.d/* vs /etc/sudoers.
@@mskiptr Oh okay I understand what you mean now, it never even crossed my mind that could be a problem. I just made that change since I saw it in a tutorial a while ago by TechHut ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RrRpXs2pkzg.html
@@ZolaKluke Yeah, It's not like that's a huge problem really. On Arch it's part of regular system maintenance. But it just gets annoying after a while so now I'm trying to migrate all my configuration to drop-in files like these. I believe Fedora tries not to ship distro configuration in these /etc/*.conf files now (so that it is left exclusively for the local administrator, while all "vendor" stuff sits in /usr/share/*.conf), so for modern packages just ignoring any .rpmnew files might be totally fine. Still, a lot of programs can only read configuration from like one file in /etc so if you're customizing these, that's certainly something to be aware of.
I've tried custom Kernel and yes they do improve the perfomance, to me about 20%, but i dont think its worth it, atleas for me its a lot of work, there can be problems with the patch, compatibility but if you dont care about it and just want sheer perfomance go ahead.
Fedora is a solid choice, especially if you're looking for rapid support for new things without the instability that comes from Arch. I've personally been using Debian 12 first when it was the testing branch then when it went to stable, mainly due to the stability itself. Running a 5950X and a 7900XTX with full driver support from the kernel. Personally, I haven't touched a bare metal Windows machine in the past 5 years and it's been so relaxing.
Nice to hear and yeah Debian is good but I’m willing to risk some stability if it means I get to have new hardware supported first and also try the new features coming from projects
I have a ryzen 5 7600x cpu and sometimes the boot times are long, sometimes they are not, however with the latest kernel they are good, also could you try a tiling wm?(just try)
I’ve heard Hyprland is good but apparently Fedora doesn’t support is nearly as well as Arch, might try COSMIC when it’s more complete since that’s a hybrid of a DE and WM
@ZolaKluke I use it with fedora and it's very good (I use an already done configuration called dots-hyprland by end-4, also Fedora has a copr repo for hyprland related things and hyprland itself)
Go for endevour os, it's a well maintained user friendly option thats arch based, so you get all the benefits of the very large repository with the latest and greatest updates, not to mention the aur and the toolchains that easily let you compile and package basically anything that a arch user bothered to create a build file for.
I've heard of the AUR, but haven't looked into it much yet, I tried endevour os a long time ago and felt way in over my head but I also didn't know as much as I do now back then
I installed my first distro a few months ago and played my first game on Linux yesterday (Metro 2033). The graphical/video settings were either missing or broken with the native version, but running it through Proton fixed my problems. I learned Proton may be necessary and preferable for certain games.
A lot of games that have native Linux versions dropped Linux support entirely in favour of Proton and I can't blame them since it saves them development time (aka money) but also a lot of Linux ports performed worse and Proton is a good middle ground
I finally abandoned Windows a few weeks ago. Recall was the last straw. Too much telemetry. Too many exploits. Too much bloat. All I need my OS to do is run quietly in the background, using as little resources as possible. I ran DaVinci Resolve under Windows for years. It is as good (if not better) than any of the bigger names out there.
I think the long boot time has to do with the NVIDIA driver updating. I run fedora on a laptop w/ an nvidia gpu and i have to wait for akmods to build every time it updates.
Nah the boot times are genuinely slow on Ryzen 7000 series, it was over a minute long on the first BIOS my motherboard shipped with and yes the long boot time is on Windows too
Thanks, I've been reading into it a lot before I felt I was ready to make the full jump, but now I feel I know enough to get around confidently on daily use
@@ZolaKluke I did the bad thing and simply jumped into arch with no pre-knowlage, took me a week to be able to get something i was happy with, then i rewarded myself by playing games.
@@ymity4637 Nice, yeah I've run Manjaro which is Arch a long time ago and that almost killed my enjoyment for Linux, but since then I learned Manjaro actually has a lot of problems that Arch just does not have
Probably Bazzite if you're basic and just use steam, though Fedora's KDE spin will just work and be more of a typical desktop. Nobara is technically better than Fedora for gaming but it can break if something strange happens. I use NixOS for my computers and it saves several headaches but you probably shouldn't.
@@cromfrein5834 I also use NixOS, but it has a steeper learning curve, so you can't really take full advantage of it until you get a good grasp of Nix. I really like how it is easier *for me* to create a Nix package than on other distros.
@@cromfrein5834 I'd say NixOS is not for beginners. It's great, but requires a tad more knowledge than the blind dive which is allowed on Fedora/Ubundu and the likes.
I went on a similar journey from nobara to fedora as a my to go system. I tried arch, manjaro and ubuntu also. There's one distro i cannot recommend enough and it's linux mint especially if there are some problems with the hardware or firmware. It's by far the most stable os that i tried and it works reliably on systems that no other os did and It just keeps on running without crashes.
Yeah similar journey, I forgot to mention I have tried Manjaro and I don’t know if I did something wrong but that distro almost killed my enjoyment for Linux
You're not helping the linux user stereotypes with that wallpaper 😭 nah but fr id swap to linux but I almost exclusively play online games so the anti cheat stuff is a huge deal breaker
@@ZolaKluke so weird how much hate you're getting just for swapping operating systems It's not this serious bruh They do realize that you can use what you want and they can stick with what they want right?
@@ZepAnimations Apparently people on the internet love to push their agenda lol, if they aren't interested in Linux then they should never have clicked on the video
I've dabbled with linux on and off for the better part of 3 years, first trying pop, then mint, then arch, and then spending the most time on Endevouros. Don't get me wrong, parts of linux are fantastic, but I always come back to windows. I think the biggest draw for me is all I do is gaming, really, well and some spftwsre dev but none of that is sensitive info. The biggest red flag for me was that when I ran Ghosts of Tushima on my Endevouros install I got around 30fps difference from 150 on windows to 120/100, and that flipped a switch in my head to ask myself if I really care about all of the data harvesting etc, when all I want is to come home and play games, and to play them at their best. I had other issues too like dealing with all sorts of the X11 issues with nvidia before the 550 drivers dropped, and again, I asked myself if it was all worth it, after all I had a 4090 and knew I wasn't getting the same performance as I was before, and that to me was the quarsion that I just couldn't shift. So, now I remain on windows, and I'm glad more all are moving away, but for me it's just not the right OS, atleast not yet.
That's entirely fair and each to their own, funny enough I've had performance boosts in a few games running them on Linux which was surprising, but I understand your situation too
Recall for "copilot+" laptops so we safe for now. I hope that in this decade Linux distros will completely suit for me and I will switch to it. Now I use linux mint only on my laptop
I'm aware it's an experimental distro and good to know you found a build you felt was stable for your use, however isn't Fedora 35 out of the support window?
@@ZolaKluke "glowie" refers to state actors like FBI, NSA or FSB. I think in this case the poster is complaining that Red Hat | IBM is funding Fedora, employs many of the maintainers and overall has some control over it. More specifically, because these are US companies, Fedora has some rather unusual packaging policies which is why rpmfusion is hosted in Europe (and why it was needed in the first place).
@@mskiptr Oh interesting, I didn't know about that which explains why Fusion exists, nevertheless I've heard they are funded by IBM but aren't influenced since they are technically independent and I doubt they have affiliations with the FBI, NSA or FSB and if they did well it'd obvious since it's open-source lol
Before you consider switching back to windows maybe give it a month minimum if there are no hardware failures because theres a massive learning curve. Well anyways gl.
Fair enough and to each their own, I don't mind GNOME but it's missing features I need without extensions which introduce their own bugs so I loose either way
Ok... You're gonna get a lot of suggestions here for tons of different distros. Listen to me now. Ignore them all and use MX Linux or a true Debian Stable based distro. Most of these people making distro suggestions have no idea what they're talking about. And no, Ubuntu is NOT based on Debian Stable. Fedora is almost full bleeding edge, only beaten out by Arch in that regard, and even if it works just fine now, chances are high that you're gonna run into breakages later. And when you're just starting out with Linux, breakages are the last thing you should be dealing with. As to drivers, MX solves this almost completely with the natively supported AHS kernel they offer.
@@ZolaKluke I mean... Technically, you already ran into two glitches right off the bat just making this video. lol But alright, I'll back off. Just remember my words!
@@arnox4554 I believe both of these glitches are KDE related and not related to Fedora directly but I understand your concern, if I have a distro breaking issue or I get fed up with glitches then I’d probably consider, I know your looking out for me but I like to learn from mistakes
@@ZolaKluke And that's totally fine. Just know what you're getting into is all I'm saying. I technically don't care whatsoever what distro people use and Fedora could be a great distro if you know and fully accept its bleeding edge nature. Most people though don't know what the REAL stable newbie-friendly distros are, and they install and recommend distros like Ubuntu or Arch or Garuda, thinking constant updates automatically equals better. By the way though, while you are absolutely right that these are KDE issues, the Fedora team is the one in the end who decides which version of KDE to package and ship out, and Fedora prioritizes almost the latest stuff, regardless of current and/or potential future issues with it with only minimal testing. Hence, the issues you see with this version of KDE.
Certainly not saying i recommend it but this is one of the many things i love about portage on gentoo. You get to pick what version of a package to install on your system as well as which ones you want the stable or bleeding edge of. Since it's all compiled and linked locally as long as there's no ABI breaking differences(like adding/removing functions) you can pick and choose which you want or need of more or less recent software versions suit your needs better
i deleted my windows like 6 months ago and installed linux . and then got fell in love with WMs and i found out i3 . but i had to do all on my own . the magic of youtube algorithm gave me the LOML which isssssssss arch + hyprland ... so i use arch btw . hehehehehehe . this shit looks soo cool , how do people even like windows after seeing this shit
Sigh, another user who switch to Linux because he doesn't realize that Microsoft Recall is made for Copilot+PC that runs on the ARM architecture... 😂😂😂
@@GreatBlackHat Supposedly they’re adding x64 support for it, nevertheless I don’t like Microsoft’s telemetry and I’ve been interested in Linux for a while and felt ready to move over
They made it so that Recall is a required dependency on Explorer, thereby people are unable to use Explorer if they remove Recall in the installation image.
@@oserodal2702 I also heard that which is extremely messed up, essentially if you remove recall you loose a critical part of your OS, why WTF Microsoft, I'm so glad I left when I did
I understand why, but what you're doing is just ridiculous. Unless you are a sysadmin, an engineer, programmer, etc. Linux is not for you! It is a kernel designed with servers in mind, not regular users!
That may have been true 10+ years ago, but nowadays linux is becoming more and more desktop-capable. HDR, the rise of Wayland (finally), and Proton are just some indicators.
Oh give up, 30 years and still no desktop victory. Linux will never dominate the desktop because its users are clueless to marketing. Steam gives you a great boost and...... NOTHING!
Not 30 years, but I had the same feeling when they started with Wine. Now you can play a lot of Windows games on a Steam Deck with Proton. And we don't need a "victory", just a sizeable market share. Macs are still not the biggest population, but 3rd party support has improved a lot.
@@LivingLinux Yeah we don't need to be the dominant OS, but if you look in the last few years Linux has gone from 1.5% of marketshare to 4.5% which is huge compared to how slow it was moving before
