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So back when Persona 3 reload was first announced, I made a video covering my thoughts and expectations surrounding the project. At the time of making it, there wasn’t really a whole lot to discuss so that video mostly served to capture my raw emotions surrounding the project. However, since then plenty of more info and trailers have dropped; enough that we can paint a much better picture as to what this remake will actually be like. My initial video is pretty outdated at this point so I figured I may as well give my updated thoughts on the more recent content released surrounding this game. Don’t worry I won’t make this a habit. I’m not about to start doing weekly Persona 3 news recaps or anything. Because there are plenty of people that already do that much better than I ever could. This is the first time since, I want to say, Persona 5 when I’ve been this legitimately excited for an Atlus game to come out. Oh and I don’t mean Persona 5 Royal, I mean Persona 5. In case you need a reminder, that game came out in the West all the way back in April of 2017. So yeah it’s safe to say it’s been quite a bit since then. It’s not that I haven’t cared about Atlus’s more recent output, but there hasn’t been anything that’s truly captured my attention as Reload has. Believe it or not, Persona 3 is a pretty significant game to me despite it not being my favorite persona game. It’s the game that basically kickstarted my career and has led me down the path to where I am today. So yeah, I do kind of care about its legacy and how this remake is going to impact how people preserve it.
I'm worried about Persona 3 Reload. Persona 3 Reload is the upcoming Persona 3 Remake and in this Persona 3 Reload speculation video, I'm going to be dissecting what we've seen of Persona 3 Reload to determine whether or not we should get excited for Persona 3 Reload. Something to keep in mind is that this Persona 3 Reload discussion video isn't a Persona 3 Reload Review, Persona 3 Reload Analysis or a Persona 3 Reload Critique. I will be doing a Persona 3 Reload Review, Persona 3 Reload Analysis, Persona 3 Reload Critique after the game comes out but right now there is nothing to review with Persona 3 Reload aside from the Persona 3 Reload trailer. Nam's Compendium is a big Persona 3 fan so we'll just have to wait and see if he likes Persona 3 Reload.

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@NamsCompendium
@NamsCompendium 7 месяцев назад
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@tomato5049
@tomato5049 7 месяцев назад
Does this mean we can finally play Guilty Gear
@Kai_Ning
@Kai_Ning 7 месяцев назад
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@Jake28
@Jake28 7 месяцев назад
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@ELI-521
@ELI-521 7 месяцев назад
As long as we dont get a super reload deluxe version later on I’m fine. Ik it’s nitpicky but I’m sick of buying 2-3 versions of each game
@TheDeatharcana
@TheDeatharcana 7 месяцев назад
Nitpicky?? We really shouldn't be buying 2-3 versions of a game. Shit just really got out of hand.
@NotGeno
@NotGeno 7 месяцев назад
I just hope the answer and femc are dlc, that seems fair
@backupschmliff1156
@backupschmliff1156 7 месяцев назад
I don't mind the new editions as they usually take what they learned and expand upon it in some way, but I want Reload to be treated as Persona 3's Golden or Royal version. I don't want the next "stage of Persona" to be 3 again. I want Episode Aigis DLC and move on.
@Ragiroth
@Ragiroth 7 месяцев назад
I want stuff added to the game, but I just wish Atlus could with the times and just add it via DLC
@ShadowOfMassDestruction
@ShadowOfMassDestruction 7 месяцев назад
I'm still salty every time I boot up my old PS3 I'm staring at the two times I've bought the same game out of love for it just to never play it again.
@Seishura
@Seishura 7 месяцев назад
The ONE thing that makes me afraid of this game is Akihiko's trailer, in which he's all about MUSCLES and P R O T E I N S ... He's my favorite character, if they make him a meme even more, I ain't gonna be happy. At all.
@richterbellassi
@richterbellassi 7 месяцев назад
I don't know why THAT became a thing and continue being a thing for so long, but I'm mad tired of seeing the dumb gag ruining his character.
@jaydenc367
@jaydenc367 7 месяцев назад
I am playing through Persona 3...I didn't know that became such a meme.
@ShadowOfMassDestruction
@ShadowOfMassDestruction 7 месяцев назад
@@jaydenc367 It's stems from PQ terrible spin off writing.
@scrapzarchive
@scrapzarchive 7 месяцев назад
Apparently, the Japanese version always had that, but the English translation cut it out.
@ntrg3248
@ntrg3248 7 месяцев назад
honestly i think theyll ramp up the protein memes in the remake but for the most part he'll be the same character. I dont think you need to be concerned too greatly
@jamfingers55
@jamfingers55 7 месяцев назад
For the love of God Atlus above all else, PLEASE leave the ending alone
@nore5888
@nore5888 7 месяцев назад
No shot lol
@nicktoons125
@nicktoons125 7 месяцев назад
They don't want to hear the whiny fans bitch, so they will.
@Gokuvsnaruto22
@Gokuvsnaruto22 7 месяцев назад
I hope they will add more post game content (Not as DLC or a re-release)
@Just_Remi
@Just_Remi 7 месяцев назад
Why would they change it? They know it would ruin the point
@nuke_raider
@nuke_raider 7 месяцев назад
They have already said the story remains faithful stop worrying so much christ
@BlackKanye
@BlackKanye 7 месяцев назад
Glad I'm not the only one that misses MC using different weapons. I found out about it after playing FES (my psp died before the last stretch of the game). I didn't play it a shit ton, but I did like being able to use whatever weapon. It was sick.
@jairekambui7738
@jairekambui7738 7 месяцев назад
It was cool but not that big of a deal. I barely used more than just the one handed sword in FES. Maybe this is something hardcore fans will care about for limiting replayability, but I don’t really care about that for an 80 hour game.
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 7 месяцев назад
I remember Omegaevolution and the Supers/Specials exhibition videos!
@mikeits13
@mikeits13 5 месяцев назад
@@jairekambui7738 I think it's pretty integral for the gameplay. The first Tartarus guardians are weak to pierce, which the bow deals. You can't get any Persona's early enough that deal pierce. So being able to equip the bow as the protagonist vastly gives you the upper hand and it adds to the experience and changes the way you play tactically.
@jairekambui7738
@jairekambui7738 5 месяцев назад
@@mikeits13 Well, Yukari has a bow, and with full party control, that seems like a non issue. Not having a bow just meant the fight was more of a slog, but still not that big of a deal.
@mikeits13
@mikeits13 5 месяцев назад
@jairekambui7738 Some people play the game unmodded and on physical hardware like me. There's no reason to argue that having a good feature removed is not a big deal. It doesn't matter if Yukari can do the damage if I want to do the same type of damage, too.
@austinmeyer_238
@austinmeyer_238 7 месяцев назад
Are you forgetting that when portable was made, it was made to be more like persona four? With that in mind, I’m not surprised they’re taking influences from the latest mainline entry in the series.
@justmundane
@justmundane 7 месяцев назад
Just because it was done before, doesn't make it a good thing. Some of the gameplay elements from persona 4 didn't work in portable well either.
@TinyPrinceGames
@TinyPrinceGames 7 месяцев назад
​@@justmundane But most of them did? Why because P3 is being remade is the community suddenly insisting that shitty systems like AI controlled party members were actually good all along or that the multiple weapon types actually meant practically anything for an average playthrough?
@papapalps2415
@papapalps2415 7 месяцев назад
​​@@TinyPrinceGamesBecause most P3 fans are brainwashed, hyper-nostalgic, elitist morons?
@nuke_raider
@nuke_raider 7 месяцев назад
@@TinyPrinceGames I know you are not arguing against multiple weapons
@mattf.868
@mattf.868 7 месяцев назад
​@@TinyPrinceGamesthe AI was not shitty, and multiple weapons were cool.
@robertjif6337
@robertjif6337 7 месяцев назад
my only wish is for them to understand the characters. for me persona 3 was never about gameplay, it is good, but it was the characters, their personality, they feel realisticly human
@thatrandomgamer6278
@thatrandomgamer6278 7 месяцев назад
I’m not really worried about this game, like, at all. At their very least, I’m quite certain the story will remain intact. No, they aren’t going to change the ending. They’re not stupid, they know what they’re doing. Given the fact they were hesitant about even giving the cast some new outfits, I think it’s safe to say the story will be untouched. Script will probably be more in line with the Japanese one but other than that it’ll probably be about the same as FES’ The Journey.
@Megamarod
@Megamarod 7 месяцев назад
Agree, the ending is the culmination of the main theme of the game, changing it would be pretty stupid and there really is no good reason to do it.
@ender7278
@ender7278 5 месяцев назад
I'm pretty sure it'll be closest to Portable's Journey, not FES's. This does raise concerns about the whole character resurrection thing everyone hates.
@M0HAK0
@M0HAK0 7 месяцев назад
Not worried about the game at all. It looks amazing and i welcome majority of the changes. Not gonna lie im not gonna miss tired mechanic at all.
@Xenado22
@Xenado22 7 месяцев назад
I don't think the game will be much easier, I've played the game for about an hour at PAX, and most of the difficulty felt the same
@mariokhoury6516
@mariokhoury6516 7 месяцев назад
honestly, I just want non romantic lvl 10 social links for the girls. if they do that, I'm sold (tired of breaking every ones heart in my "perfect" playthroughs)
@the_dapper_stormtrooper9302
@the_dapper_stormtrooper9302 7 месяцев назад
They are adding platonic relationships dont worry. Honestly might explain the anwer's current exclusion. Not only would they need to well... make it fun, but also change the weird forced love triangle.
@Kingdom850
@Kingdom850 7 месяцев назад
@@the_dapper_stormtrooper9302 Pretty sure the fact that the answer was a 20+ hour epilogue filled with extra content in a project that's only goal is to remake the base P3 experience is why it was cut lmfao. Not because of some dumbass love triangle.
@the_dapper_stormtrooper9302
@the_dapper_stormtrooper9302 7 месяцев назад
@@Kingdom850 Im sorry for insinuating that major rewrites may be *(yet another)* reason for the exclusion. I hope you find it in your heart to forgive me. I understand what i did was unforgivable but i hope we can both move on.
@m.l.7558
@m.l.7558 6 месяцев назад
What weird forced love triangle was there in The Answer? Are you talking about Yukari and Aigis? I ddint see it that way​@@the_dapper_stormtrooper9302
@Nocturne989
@Nocturne989 7 месяцев назад
*Says he finds nothing wrong with the original version of the game* he says talking about FES, which is also not the original version of the game? Every time someone says the original was fine, they specifically mention FES which is not the original.
@maquinlol9673
@maquinlol9673 7 месяцев назад
I think they will add strega gameplay, one of the screen-shots is takaya saying to the protagonist that they should join forces to fight a red giant abbadon
@TinyPrinceGames
@TinyPrinceGames 7 месяцев назад
I appreciate the bit at the end about fans getting way too up in arms about this not being some all encompassing remake of Persona 3 that it was never going to be. It's been my biggest issue in interfacing with the community, especially because I get the sense that P Studios actually is doing their homework and trying their best with this one. It's kind of an unwinnable situation for them, because they either add everything and force the game to undergo a lot more development for little gain (People mad about The Answer don't even fucking like it in the first place) or they move on from that old content and have people bitch about that. That said...I think a lot of the worries levied at Reload are...not really taking in the perspective of a newcomer, for as much as they're trying to. I understand the appeal of the AI party members, KIND OF, but like...how many people are actually using them when the core mechanics are as good as they are? Why are you asking for LESS direct control? LESS of your own interaction in a video game? Your average newcomer doesn't have the time to do multiple P3 playthroughs to appreciate the AI, let alone even fully grasp things like the benefits you can get from the jazz club or pool in P5R on their first playthrough. It really confounds me when veteran players of a series say things like "I want new players to experience a great version of this game" when they're basing that off of what THEY think is a great version instead of what might be best for a brand new player. This is tied for my favorite game of all time, and while a big part of me was also scared of this remake, the original is not perfect in its gameplay or its writing. I understand remake culture is bad and I'd much prefer original art, but if a remake is what we're going to get I hate that so often the original work is put up on some pedestal that the community NEVER put it on before it was up to be remade.
@dragonlord0784
@dragonlord0784 7 месяцев назад
^^^^ Well said
@thatrandomgamer6278
@thatrandomgamer6278 7 месяцев назад
Bro could have said anything and decided to speak facts.
@NoonDragoon
@NoonDragoon 6 месяцев назад
It’s been utterly hilarious to me seeing all these veteran megaten “fans” clamor about missing AI controlled party members when that was the number one complaint that was levied against OG Persona 3 for close to a decade. I hated not controlling my party members when I played original P3 on the PS2, especially coming off of RPGs like FFX. I honestly can not believe there are some people who want less control in their RPG games.
@powercore2000
@powercore2000 7 месяцев назад
A part I'm really interested in is how much of the social link system is going to be reworked. Not having links with your male party members, and lacking platonic female routes were the biggest design flaws of 3's social system. But since they already add characters for every tarot, are they gonna add more from other decks, or cut some of the existing characters? But I did like the concept of social link reversals and wonder if they'll keep them. That system would need to be reworked heavily however due to the nature of reversals mostly being triggered over love triangle bs. On the gameplay side, I still want it to be a challenge, but not an artificially grindy one like P3 would throw up sometimes. (Looking at you The Answer or some of early Tartarus). I have a bit of faith that the team learned from making Royal so easy with the mechanical benefits to tune that difficulty better to still let P3 be challenging in the right contexts.
@eea00525
@eea00525 7 месяцев назад
So I’ll explain for you from the info we have, social links will stay the same with every single one now being voice and seem to have been revised in writing in some parts but there will be a new social things added called link episodes which are basically social links minus the ranks and are tied to the story so in between segments the male party, female party, and Strega members will have these to expand their characters while most likely being voiced given the trailers show parts of them. Social link reversals are still in but the break is now gone. The link episodes seem to be tied to their theurgy attacks to buff them over time and small stat boosts. Platonic routes are hinted and are very likely to be in due to a age rating from a country specifying “optional” routes.
@powercore2000
@powercore2000 7 месяцев назад
@@eea00525 Thanks for the info!
@analysissel
@analysissel 7 месяцев назад
my biggest issue with not including The Answer or FeMC in Reload is (a) Portable being shoddily ported so recently making it feel strange and wrong that FeMC is being ignored here, and (b) a complete lack of trust in Atlus making it obvious that such content is likely to be released in an overpriced DLC.
@backupschmliff1156
@backupschmliff1156 7 месяцев назад
I mean they said they would never do two protagonists again because of all the extra work.
@jairekambui7738
@jairekambui7738 7 месяцев назад
Why would they bust their asses to include an entire unnecessary campaign of the game?
@backupschmliff1156
@backupschmliff1156 7 месяцев назад
@@jairekambui7738 It's completely necessary and even has a sequel. It's incredibly important to everyone's arc and how they deal with moving on from loss.
@jairekambui7738
@jairekambui7738 7 месяцев назад
@@backupschmliff1156 It really isn’t but okay chief. The original ending was perfect as is. We didn’t need to see whatever the hell was going on in the answer. Didn’t need repetition of character arcs, didn’t need to see weak scenes of characters alluding to how they awakened, didn’t need to see a direct explanation of the ending because you can figure it out in the base game if you just pay attention. It’s bad man.
@backupschmliff1156
@backupschmliff1156 7 месяцев назад
@@jairekambui7738 If you pay attention to the base game, Episode Aigis makes so much sense. The ending is better with Episode Aigis. I can't stand endings where the character dies and that's it. It's bullshit. Death isn't the end. That's not how life works. Everything doesn't just end when you die. When you die, everything keeps happening. Everything keeps moving forward. The people close to you have to keep moving forward. Anyone can make an ending where you die. But not many have the courage to show what happens. That's what makes Persona 3's ending so powerful. If not for Episode Aigis, Persona 2's ending would be the best.
@Ourii
@Ourii 7 месяцев назад
wow i just watched your other reload video and then i see this timing is immaculate
@DarkLordSekke
@DarkLordSekke 7 месяцев назад
Seems like somebody needed to pay rent this month
@Storm1Trooper5
@Storm1Trooper5 7 месяцев назад
What I’m sayin 😂
@FelipeCarvalho-my3uv
@FelipeCarvalho-my3uv 7 месяцев назад
Most people hate on dungeon crawling when talking about OG P3 but for me the worst part of the game is actually the non tartarus activities. Maxing out your social stats is really easy and every month I'd usually finish tartarus in a couple of days, after that there's barely anything to do. Some months are even worse than others and mostly lock you out of doing S.Links, you're usually just waiting for the next story event to hit so you can explore more of tartarus which I actually like to do. In comparison P5R really had some fun side stuff aside from confidants, nothing groundbreaking but good enough to keep you entertained until the next palace/mementos block, it also helps that most of the stuff you do actually helps you in the metaverse, even if it's just a little. Seeing how much they're borrowing from P5 I just hope they do enough to keep you occupied between months.
@itsaUSBline
@itsaUSBline 7 месяцев назад
I agree with you about the side activities being too limited and there often just not being enough to do some months, which got repetitive and dull. However, unlike you, I also didn't like the Tartarus part of the game. So the whole game was pretty much a wash for me unfortunately. Which is a shame, because I played P5R first, rather liked it but didn't love it, then absolutely loved P4G, so I was excited to give P3 a try because I know it's a lot of Persona fans' favorite. But I just found it to be mostly a slog and never really connected with the story or characters like I had with P4G, or even P5R to a lesser extent.
@shenmuemasta
@shenmuemasta 7 месяцев назад
I knew this was from a completely different team, the og team seemed to have moved on and are working on metaphor. I think this new team will be in charge of P6, and that's why I'm hoping for a sneaky FF7R thingy. This is pretty much a practice run for P6 I feel like.
@funninoriginal6054
@funninoriginal6054 7 месяцев назад
Why are you hoping for this to be a FF7R situation? Do you want them to ruin the original story like they already did with Strange Journey?
@shenmuemasta
@shenmuemasta 7 месяцев назад
@@funninoriginal6054 I have yet to beat the redux version of strange journey. That said, the story will not be ruined for me because : 1. The original exists. 2. I also don't think the og needed a remake. 3. I'm seeing this as a product that will stand to the og's side, not replace it. As such, they can come out with whatever crazy shit they want. I'm more interested in the original content this new team can come up with than the remake itself. I don't think a FF7R situation will happen though, this probably won't go farther than what p3p did.
@xXFlameHaze92Xx
@xXFlameHaze92Xx 7 месяцев назад
yes... since the begining is confirmed is being made by the leftovers of P studio due to all the creative team, artist, programmers and musicians goes to Studio Zero due to and citing Katsura Hashino "Just we dont want to make Persona anymore"
@xXFlameHaze92Xx
@xXFlameHaze92Xx 7 месяцев назад
@@shenmuemasta the remake its necesary, at least for providing access continuity,, Persona 3 and FES are nightmares for developers to port, its literally easier remake all the game from scratch due to is very attached to PS2 Architecture 128 bits SIMD instructions (thats why also its a nightmare emulating it without making a lot of concessions, that why pcsx2 and PS3 emulator have versions only dedicated to emulate those games and nothing more, and even ps3 and pcsx2 have a lot of issues due to those same instrcutions those can trigger the infamous love hotel infinite glitch).
@shenmuemasta
@shenmuemasta 7 месяцев назад
@@xXFlameHaze92Xx Have you tried the more recent nightly builds of PCSX2? Since the duckstation guy started to work on it, PCSX2 has been pretty damn awesome for me, I have not tried P3 or its FES version, but I still have to run in a major problem while running a game.
@helghast_7203
@helghast_7203 7 месяцев назад
I just hopes it’s still hard and they improve the pacing of the game, there is a lot of lulls in the original narrative. (Although the point of giving more screentime for Strega is nice). Overall, I’m fearing they will make the game too easy or change the plot in a way that completely screws it over. characterization and the points supporting the central theme of accepting death is mostly the ones I’m worried about, since every rerelease of the game gave you a chance to save a character that originally died to reinforce the theme of the game, which is stupid. Also the fact that everyone is calling the MC « Leader » is bugging me so hard. I always thought of the main character as a field marshall more than a leader. Anyway, still looking forward to it.
@too_much_yosh7618
@too_much_yosh7618 7 месяцев назад
For me I think fes definitely needed a remake, but only in the gameplay department. The only major change I wanted was direct control over party members. I hated not being able to control the party in fes
@shaginus
@shaginus 7 месяцев назад
Reload is FES without The Answer It confirmed to have all FES content for the Journey
@jujublue4426
@jujublue4426 7 месяцев назад
There was direct control in portable 😅
@stevenolson3977
@stevenolson3977 7 месяцев назад
@@jujublue4426 that's why it is so hard to choose between P3 FES and P3P. P3P has a "better" battle system, but the visual and audio quality is terrible, and I just don't vibe with the backgrounds being static images. The world just doesn't "feel" as alive as compared to P3 FES.
@klosar6666
@klosar6666 7 месяцев назад
If that's the case, you might want to look into a modded FES that allows you to control all party members. Should be pretty easy to find a ROM online.
@sootythunder3111
@sootythunder3111 7 месяцев назад
@@klosar6666 currently playing one and it feels so much better, its amazing i can actually use Mitsuru without MARIN KARIN
@rafaelploumis8682
@rafaelploumis8682 7 месяцев назад
P3R is my most anticipated game ever. I too am a little disappointed some unique P3 features didn't make it to Reload. Believe it or not, I'm gonna miss the tiredness mechanic, it "forced" you to play as other characters when others were tired, and this way, you learned to appreciate them. In P4 and P5, I never changed my specific party members, because I simply didn't need to. Also gonna miss the protag being able to use different weapons. But all the newly added features can compensate for the lost ones. And besides, the og game will always be there... for those who can have it that is. As someone who loved the Answer and its story, and as an Aigis fan who wants her complete story and character development shown, I just don't get the mindset of you all who disliked the Answer. So, because you didn't like the Answer as it was back in the 2000s, you don't wanna see it remade... WTF? You all should be the ones to want the Answer remade the most, to play it with the gameplay improvements of P3R, and to possibly have its story improved. The ending of The Answer is and will always be the canon P3 ending, there's no changing that. So why don't you guys want more content for the 60bucks game you're paying? Personally, I hope they remake the Answer as well one day, even if I'll have to pay a P3R-Fes version in the future (because Atlus will be Atlus). I'd also like to see poor FemC being remade too, for all her fans out there who are heartbroken with Reload. All these indicate hopefully a P3 Reload Ultimate Edition existing in the future, with both the Answer and FemC, if P3R sales are great for Atlus.
@BUTTER1000
@BUTTER1000 6 месяцев назад
For real, I don't understand why people are so against having the answer, I never got to experience it and I hate the argument " well if you want to play it so bad go back to FES" as if you could just go to the store and buy a PS2 right now, I don't like the idea of Content getting left behind just because a few people don't like it back then, plus it's extra content why are people against having extra content....
@digimonlover1632
@digimonlover1632 7 месяцев назад
10:02 Because I like it.
@itsaUSBline
@itsaUSBline 7 месяцев назад
It's always been funny to me when people say that Persona 5 is baby easy. And I think my perspective likely has something to do with the order in which I played these games. So, P5R was my first Persona game, and I didn't have the best understanding of the fusion mechanics and how to make good personas. Also, I played on hard (not merciless, but hard, which I'm told is actually harder). And there were some fights that were incredibly difficult. Boss fights that took me upwards of an hour and where one or two mistakes like not keeping buffs or debuffs up, or not being able to heal or dispel something just once could easily mean a team wipe. The final boss of Royal in particular was like this, though there were others as well. Okumura gets a special mention for forcing me to really learn to use the baton pass mechanic in an optimal way. Overall the game forced me to use all the tools at my disposal, and I found myself theorycrafting teams, figuring out exactly who to swap in and out during combat and when, coming up with strategies, using all the consumables I could to get an edge. And even with all that, the game felt hard as nails. This likely had something to do with me having incredibly underleveled and unoptimized personas, since I chose never to grind in the underground any more than I had to in order to complete side quests, and just generally not really knowing what I was doing with the fusion, which I barely engaged with. Also, I made a conscious decision to never use any of the clearly extremely overpowered DLC personas that are available from the start, because they seemed wayyyy too broken. So yeah, that was my subjective experience of playing Persona 5 Royal, my first Persona game. So after that I moved on to P4G (which has become my favorite Persona game by a pretty big margin), and I had always heard people saying that P5R is baby easy, and that P4 was a lot harder. Because of this, I went in with a Dark Souls kind of mindset, expecting to have to really struggle and grind to get through it. But you know what? My experience playing through it was a lot smoother and easier than what I had gone through with Persona 5. I'm not sure how much of it was me actually knowing what I was doing with fusion and building properly good personas and how much of it is everyone having nostalgia goggles and going on about how everything was harder back in their day. But yeah, I didn't struggle at all in P4G. I didn't even have to grind at all really. I just went through the dungeons once, then again for side quests later in the month, but I didn't really ever have to grind specifically for money or XP to make do. Then with P3, I had heard that *this* was the really hard one, the big boy. But you know what? I found P3 only marginally harder than P4G. This is all subjective of course, but difficulty is subjective, and not everyone's experience is going to be the same. I was actually disappointed that P4 and P3 never demanded the same level of optimal play, or sense of desperation during these epic struggles of a boss fight that I had gone through in P5. It felt like coasting downhill for the most part. And both 3 and 4 seemed to have an inverse difficulty curve, whereas P5 had continued getting harder and harder to more than keep pace with me even up till the very end.
@moonwalker1155
@moonwalker1155 7 месяцев назад
Funny im similar. First game i played was p5r this year or last its been awhile so i forget. Was fairly easy, i hate maruki SO MUCH, 8 hours… P4g was actually way easier then p5r Fes so far has been the WORST. It truly has been torture but its gotten a bit better. May buy p3p this week but i heard it has audio issues on switch :/
@luissaumeth8000
@luissaumeth8000 6 месяцев назад
Funny, for me is the total opposite! I started with P3 FES on hard, i struggle only cause Ai related things, then P4G, also on hard, easy as fuck. Then P5R where I struggled the most
@mr.protagonist5639
@mr.protagonist5639 6 месяцев назад
It's because none of the persona games are hard. People say persona 5 is baby easy but it's not like the other games are that much more difficult. If they are your first games in the series sure but otherwise the difficulty isn't really that high.
@mysteryboii4869
@mysteryboii4869 6 месяцев назад
@@mr.protagonist5639Big facts all Persona are easy but P5R is way too easy for my liking.
@autocorrect5456
@autocorrect5456 5 месяцев назад
oh yes, the optimal play required for the scripted boss fights in persona 5. not the tartarus fights in persona 3 where some party members can't do a single thing against them because it can only be damaged by 1 element.
@sombrego2260
@sombrego2260 7 месяцев назад
You have to remember that P3 original has never been released in any other language than japanese and english so no, not everybody can just play the original ps2 game and appreciate it. P5 also became so popular because it was the first to get translated in other languages and having P3 translated in so many languages is a big thing. The game didn't "need" a remake but a translation at the very least along with an HD port was kind of necessary imho.
@SenpaiRetro
@SenpaiRetro 7 месяцев назад
Great Video! Persona 3 Reload will hopefully be everything we want!
@spaciouswheat4580
@spaciouswheat4580 7 месяцев назад
Also what was that Sonic Adventure OST from around 4:53 ? Because that song unlocked like some crazy childhood memory and no one else ever uses it in videos
@Aspi3Gam3r
@Aspi3Gam3r 7 месяцев назад
"It never really needed a remake" Are you on drugs Nam? lmao There's a reason "Persona 3 Remake" ranked so highly on ATLUS's yearly customer surveys for years and 90 percent of it has everything to do with the original game's gameplay having aged like spoiled milk compared to Persona 4 and especially Persona 5.
@nagito1315
@nagito1315 7 месяцев назад
I hope p3 reload feels the same as the original since it was my first persona game loved it
@rotonek2887
@rotonek2887 6 месяцев назад
It will not, look at the new osts
@JamesCarpeDiem
@JamesCarpeDiem 6 месяцев назад
@@rotonek2887they’re bangers
@sombrego2260
@sombrego2260 7 месяцев назад
The fact that they removed the OP buff of baton passes added in Royal makes me very slightly reassured that they realized Royal was way too easy and will try to make P3R challenging enough.
@LeMelleKH2
@LeMelleKH2 7 месяцев назад
Amazing video! What's the song at the end? Im blanking on the name
@matfluff
@matfluff 7 месяцев назад
Persona 3 fes was my first persona game and my first introduction to jrpgs and unfortunately do to my lack of experience at the time I never beat it so all I hope for in Persona 3 Reload is that will provide a similar experience and difficulty without the restrictions in the original
@GamingWithSpoons
@GamingWithSpoons 6 месяцев назад
3:37 I'm so glad you said that I thought I was crazy for thinking that.
@athorem
@athorem 7 месяцев назад
I am a bit concerned for sure. Gonna try to not think about the game too much until it comes out so I can go in without any preconceived notions
@kirb3046
@kirb3046 7 месяцев назад
I litteraly was just about to rewatch your P3 video
@KatsuyaTheFuuk
@KatsuyaTheFuuk 7 месяцев назад
10:01 YOU ARE SO REAL FOR THIS. But yeah I'm in the same mind set. Didn't feel the need for a remake, but will welcome it while considering it another version to go next to the originals rather than a replacement. The most healthy way imo
@Twostraightwhitemalesreact
@Twostraightwhitemalesreact 7 месяцев назад
It needed a remake the the og was trash combat trash level design crap, you people must like trash mechanics 😂
@KatsuyaTheFuuk
@KatsuyaTheFuuk 7 месяцев назад
@@Twostraightwhitemalesreact ok
@insertnamehere658
@insertnamehere658 7 месяцев назад
What do you think of the new osts?
@HenriqueHCA14
@HenriqueHCA14 7 месяцев назад
Persona 3 is my favorite, helped me through a lot during the pandemic but yes, Tartarus was trash. Through all the Persona games, the only time i really had fun on dungeons instead of zombie my way out was in P5. If they manage to make Tartarus actually fun, that's a big W in my opinion since it' s the part i'm most concerned about, while the story and characters i'm sure they'll expand and add a lot to the lore.
@anon3600
@anon3600 5 месяцев назад
I didn't really mind Tartarus personally, I thought it was fun lol. But I get it, what's fun for me won't be fun for someone else. That aside the Tartarus gameplay looked really good to me in the trailers, the one that stood out to me was the Harabah Block as it seems to have gotten an upgrade in both layout and aesthetic
@runningcrabburps
@runningcrabburps 5 месяцев назад
I can totally see the answer or femc coming as dlc down the road, and I'd be very down for that
@helenaotam5596
@helenaotam5596 7 месяцев назад
I’ve only placed a bit of portable. But for me I had 3 major thing I think reload should fix or rework. 1. rework some of the social links since 3 has the biggest difference in quality from my understanding. Second made more update the Tartarus and battle mechanics . Finally flesh out Strega more. I agree most of ur worries in terms of this remake. Especially the balancing. I initially played p5 vanilla and then bought p5R later. Man is royal very easy. I got stuck in vanilla at the last dungeon since a lot of the shadows didn’t have weakness but Royal I didn’t have much trouble even with maruki’s final fight. So ya they need to make sure the game is balance since there adding a lot of game mechanics.
@hayaokakizaki4463
@hayaokakizaki4463 7 месяцев назад
Personally I think the very idea of a Persona 3 Reload is counterthetical to what Persona 3 was even about
@cartoonclips_if
@cartoonclips_if 7 месяцев назад
heres hoping the "Super" attacks arent overpowered since you can just charge them and keep getting them mid fight
@mizzix
@mizzix 7 месяцев назад
Ehhh there is way more to persona 3's identity than the gameplay imo
@rayjohnson863
@rayjohnson863 6 месяцев назад
I knew it. I knew I needed to look up a video if you you talked about Persona 3 Reload and I was not surprised. I wonder if they will have a Persona 3 original gameplay mode. Where the AI is controlled and it uses the core gameplay mechanics for those who wants the original experience. This could be something we may not be aware of yet. So stay optimistic Nam.
@eea00525
@eea00525 7 месяцев назад
Maybe not using the special theurgy moves then? Not to mention some fusion spells are super overpowered so in this way it’s them kinda balancing it so you can’t use them as frequently to abuse them. If you don’t like that it messes with the difficulty i guess just try not to use it as much. As for anything else I mean it’s expected that they make everything similar to p5r since so many people loved that game, it may be easy per say but Baton pass already got nerfed to have no buff when using it and the dorm events only seem to be tied to the theurgy attacks and sp/stat buffs from the pictures and descriptions so its similar to p4 and p5 in that way. Even so the social link granted traits are also a given because so many people liked them even though they were overpowered and if they exclude those things many people who don’t care about the balance will be mad since they just wanna have fun. I’m not to worried about balance I just wanna have fun with my favorite game.
@reikurokaze3988
@reikurokaze3988 7 месяцев назад
Ive always hated the idea of "just don't use it", especially because the idea that p3r is coming after smt5, p5r, and sh2 which had similar mechanics. So you would expect the devs to learn from mistakes and feedback and not just "do the same thing" without going back to the drawing board to see why its polarizing aka just polish it.
@eea00525
@eea00525 7 месяцев назад
@@reikurokaze3988 Well in that case the majority like it, most people don’t care and just want to have fun considering persona is one of the easier JRPGs to get into. The very hardcore fan base are the ones who find issues with these things while others just enjoy the game with no real issues. Atlus is always gonna pay attention to the majority cause it’s what makes them money, their a business, they’ll make compromises like with baton bass not buffing anymore and changes to enemies to make them more imposing but their not gonna exclude features the majority of players like so us older fans who like challenges have to deal with that. The best you can do is make it harder for yourself since Atlus doesn’t care to change things because they’ll get a lot of push back for taking out features a majority of people like that older fans who are in the minority will find issue with. They can’t please everyone and the ones who don’t get a lot of the support is us older fans.
@RegalPixelKing
@RegalPixelKing 7 месяцев назад
Saying "don't use it" is not valid. Like when Sonic 4 came out people were mad that they added the air dash, something introduced in Sonic Adventure, making it very much not like any of the classic Sonic games. People defending that game said "just don't air dash" like that was even an option. The difficulty and level design was built around the air dash being in that game. The scaling and difficulty is likely tied to the special moves in P3R meaning "don't use it" is not really a valid rebuttal.
@shaginus
@shaginus 7 месяцев назад
@@RegalPixelKing It is valid because You always got an options to not press the effing button Your comparison straight up wrong The more accurate comparison is using Legendary in Pokemon games which on that games it's up to you to not use it or not
@Draconated
@Draconated 7 месяцев назад
@@shaginus You don't always have legendary pokemon in your party at all times from the moment the game starts, that's a nonsense comparison. Having broken things available at all times during combat destroys the difficulty, how is this hard to understand?
@jadethegamermc
@jadethegamermc 6 месяцев назад
I played the demo at egx twice. I enjoyed it. There's a full moon and new moon mode. Not sure if that's in the original.
@Watercrown86
@Watercrown86 6 месяцев назад
What I've come to realize is the Persona community these days just does not care about having well tuned, balance experience. P5R is nearly universally praised yet every single one of it's "QoL" additions only serves to undermine the games very own design. Your fears about Persona 3 losing it's own unique identity are very valid. All of P3's unique aspects could have been tweaked and improved and yet they choose to just scrap them and replace them mechanics from P5R. One silver lining is that at the very least they realized some of those mechanics were a little too powerful. P3's version of the Baton Pass doesn't give you a power boost anymore. That's something I guess.
@fall5923
@fall5923 7 месяцев назад
I just hope they kept the dark tones it's known for .
@eamonndeane587
@eamonndeane587 7 месяцев назад
I do hope we get another Persona game with a Female MC at some point.
@keeysOST
@keeysOST 7 месяцев назад
Bro I want a mainline entry with only one protagonist, and I would like it to be female. I want to play as a girl for once lol
@thriceuponatime01
@thriceuponatime01 7 месяцев назад
Rumors have it that persona 6 will be their largest project yet, so who knows maybe it will have the option then. For p3 I think it's justified just because the route was only ever present in portable and nowhere else, so it understandably wouldn't have been a priority for a remake of p3, but I do hope persona 6 could have the option from the start
@yuritarted9890
@yuritarted9890 7 месяцев назад
@@keeysOSTthat would sale less. Just like SH2
@ShioSatou
@ShioSatou 7 месяцев назад
@@keeysOST Thoughts on Maya in EP?
@mizzix
@mizzix 7 месяцев назад
​@@yuritarted9890sh2 sold less because of literally everything, except having a female protagonist
@doublechindoge7
@doublechindoge7 7 месяцев назад
2:30 I've been pretty late to the Persona train, but have now pretty thoroughly experienced the games in retrospect, so I'd like to quickly give my perspective on that. tl;dr - My take is that the story does not need to change. The characters don't necessarily need to change, but they need to do more to show their character, because I feel like so much is missing or exclusive to alternative side-bits of media like the P3 movie. The gameplay *absolutely* needs to change somewhat. I feel like Persona 3 actually needed a remake more than most games that get remade these days. I see it as a near-perfect concept, but with a myriad of flaws in execution which leave me preferring Persona 4, even though I see Persona 3's potential to be quite frankly one of the greatest stories in existence. That being said, I'd like to give some context on why I think this, and what my experience has been with Persona. - Like a lot of people, I never checked it out until Joker got into Smash. I watched a Playthrough of Persona 5 and it blew me away. Eventually I got around to giving Persona 4 a chance too, and that was something special. Persona 4 has always been my favourite and is still one of the few games that has ever made me cry, so it probably doesn't shock you to hear I consider it one of the best stories I've ever experienced in any sort of media. Of course, eventually I got around to Persona 3 as well, but at this time I had only watched the games not played them. A year passes, and I feel like revisiting the games, so I decide now's the time to finally actually sit down and play them myself. I absolutely loved playing Persona 4 on Steam. It's still one of my most played games on there and I've been playing it so much I'm on the cusp of 100%ing the game on the hardest difficulty without any guides I'm happy to say. I also plan to get all the achievements, and am already pretty close. I haven't got around to playing P5 yet, so instead I look to giving P3 a shot... Only the Portable re-release drops and it's awful - and I wasn't gonna taint my experience of the game with that trash. So I decided that was the push I needed to play FES on emulator instead, but since I was already going to be playing it on emulator anyway, I also played using a large portion of community-made Quality of Life mods. Widescreen, better graphics, smoother controls, improved UI and animations, fixes to some annoying quirks of Persona 3 like clocks not healing you before a boss in The Answer, and a myriad of miscellaneous little annoyances patched out. So while I have seen a playthrough of the original P3FES, my only experience playing it is on this modded improved version on emulator. Ok, so with all that said, I gotta say - Persona 3 _does_ feel like it is *desperately* gasping for a tune-up to me. Not because of the PS2 graphics, though playing with 2K resolution was nice. Not because of the 4:3 aspect ratio, though I was glad to be able to play in widescreen. It's more down to gameplay differences. The only problem I'd chalk up to being a PS2 game that I felt really needed fixing was that the camera felt awful to control to me without the smooth camera control mod, and I know that sounds nitpicky, but when you have to deal with it at all points in the game the frustration adds up. The other problems are mostly just symptoms of P3 being the first Neo-Persona game. No Social Links for half the main cast was a huge blow to my investment in the plot to start - in fact, while Persona 3 grew on me to the point I now would rank it above P5, at the time I first watched it I actually was a little bit underwhelmed. I kept thinking "this should make me feel something, but I don't care about any of these characters except Junpei really, so I don't feel anything". I blame that on the lack of Social Links, even the girls who did get Social Links I feel got shallow Social Links that feel like they don't elaborate much on their characters. I've come to love the majority of the P3 cast *now* in retrospect knowing so much more about them, but a lot of what got me to care about them was stuff I never saw in my initial watch through of the game, or came from other media around P3 instead of the actual original game. On a similar note, I want to make it clear that I'm not saying the P3's story is worse off for being surreal and out-there specifically - I think that's cool, but I feel even for a very surreal and out there story there are moments for a first-timer where the story seems borderline incoherent. Sometimes you could only understand what's being said if you knew to pause the game and check the dictionary to explain the lore (which, iirc, the game never even tells you this exists), or in some cases you even are missing context on the story that only exists in other external media. The combat also, while I appreciated the slightly higher difficulty, I found kinda tedious most of the time honestly - especially because... well... y'know just Tartarus in general. Persona Skill Inheritance being fully random made me sit down for minutes on end loading savestates over and over and over again. Just generally I also feel like while all Persona games tend to be light on gameplay early on, Persona 3 felt like its gameplay was near non-existent until the last third of the game. That last third was really good, but even in Persona 4 for its long intro and tutorial - you don't have to wait until October for things to start getting fun in that game. I still enjoyed the game as a whole, but I feel like I spent half my time playing using the Emulator's speed up to get through recycled cutscenes and grindy Tartarus fights at quadruple speed - so I'm genuinely left feeling like I probably would not have liked the game if I was forced to play the original with all its issues without the use of any fast forward. I mean, I just said I kept loading savestates just to get the right skills inherited on my Personas too - I couldn't imagine the hours that would have taken if I was forced to quit and reload saves instead. I'm actually super excited for Reload just because I truly do think Persona 3 by all means should have been the gem of the Persona Series, but while I know a lotta OG fans think it already is... I'm not going to lie... Persona 3 the game, I think is pretty severely dragged down by a mountain of little shortcomings, most of which being just understandable mistakes for their first crack at the Neo-Persona formula. Even before P3R's announcement I always though, if they just could have had another shot at making it now with the experience and technology they have today - it could be so much better! Now will it be? idk, I hope, but I won't say I'm already sold. These new mini-social links with S.E.E.S. have to be written well, and not just present the flanderised versions of the characters we sometimes tend to see in the spinoffs. I hope they also don't make the game too easy. That being said, if they can pull those off, I think they have a really good shot at it.
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 7 месяцев назад
7:26 MC switching weapon to better exploit enemy weaknesses is why I am making a Bash/Cleave/stab??? Fusion right now (first P3P run...)
@archibaldyi5351
@archibaldyi5351 7 месяцев назад
I think,If Persona 3 is going to have multiple endings, it might have to wait until the Royal Edition
@Gokuvsnaruto22
@Gokuvsnaruto22 7 месяцев назад
persona 3 didn't need a remake? you gotta be kidding me.
@Gokuvsnaruto22
@Gokuvsnaruto22 7 месяцев назад
​@@Son.Ren.maybe so but it makes sense why they picked persona 3 first
@toooydoeur
@toooydoeur 7 месяцев назад
Ofc it didnt
@backupschmliff1156
@backupschmliff1156 7 месяцев назад
Get good at the game lmao
@toooydoeur
@toooydoeur 7 месяцев назад
@@backupschmliff1156 oh god its infamous backloggd user schmliff
@alexsanderivan6511
@alexsanderivan6511 7 месяцев назад
About the "FFVII Remake-level change", there's some (compelling) theories going around that this game will have its own version of a "Third Semester" from P5, and that would involve optional extra content that could lead to a new ending, that probably relates to the theme of rebirth, due to some symbology in the trailers. Frankly, I have a hard time imagining Atlus NOT doing smth like that, but as long as the original ending is still a possibility, I'm fine with its inclusion
@elae4051
@elae4051 7 месяцев назад
My theory is the new ending is like a mix of the original and The Answer, like the MC lives, but it causes the time loop from The Answer and it still ultimately ends in his death. What are those theories?
@wizamaulana6362
@wizamaulana6362 7 месяцев назад
Yup, they're have to explain the new water theme at some point somehow
@BetaHoax
@BetaHoax 7 месяцев назад
As for the difficulty, I’m sure they will still have difficulty options. If it takes the hardest difficulty for you to have fun, then play the hardest difficulty. I see no problem here. Persona 3 is my favorite in the series, I think it looks great!
@RaspyCh
@RaspyCh 7 месяцев назад
The problem is that he’s worried that it’ll be a persona 5 situation where no matter what difficulty you put the game to, it’ll still be piss easy. Persona 5 on hard and royal on merciless didn’t mean shit cause the game itself was easy
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 6 месяцев назад
@@RaspyChFunnily enough, P5R on Hard is harder, because you don't get the damage multiplier for crits or striking weaknesses
@mysteryboii4869
@mysteryboii4869 6 месяцев назад
⁠@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 But in the end tha game is still easy on Hard which defeats the purpose
@pizzajoe1969
@pizzajoe1969 7 месяцев назад
I get your concern about the “limit break” attacks but I mean is it that big of a concern? Almost every rpg ever that incorporates some form of limit breaks into their games have some criteria to fill it for example getting hit for the exact reason of spamming and winning, tis nothing new and I HIGLY doubt it’s anything to fret over
@Snzn18
@Snzn18 7 месяцев назад
yeah, like where did this idea of having a limit break means ditching out any tactics in the gameplay came from? Like you can't even use limit breaks in every battle. You might not even fill up a limit break during a boss fight if you have your limit break bar at zero inn the beginning of the fight. Also isn.t it it a game tactic to actually reserve a limit breaks just in case a boss fight willl casually begin in a a rather long dungeon exploration.
@nukeboynez3648
@nukeboynez3648 7 месяцев назад
My only concern is the excessive bloom in the graphics. I prefer the older more clear cut art style than these shiny figures.
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 7 месяцев назад
The UI is what I would be grateful for I have been FLEEING FIGHTS by accident for too long...
@opalpal1673
@opalpal1673 7 месяцев назад
I agree with you 100%. I hate that the tired mechanic is gone. It was nice and made it feel like SEES at the end of the day were teens that had to deal with not only school work but, world ending disasters. I would imagine they would end up tired at some point.
@bubbletea_
@bubbletea_ 7 месяцев назад
Persona 5 Blue, Starring: The Phantom S.E.E.S.
@backupschmliff1156
@backupschmliff1156 7 месяцев назад
B kinda looks like a 3. P53 confirmed.
@ShockStormRPG
@ShockStormRPG 7 месяцев назад
I think a lot of the gameplay and graphics improvements in Persona 3 Reload are looking really great. The only thing that is kind of a shame is no The Answer or Female protagonist. Either way though, no matter what version of Persona 3 it's a great game! I grew up playing Persona 3 and it was one of the earlier SMT games I played!
@michaeldalton6176
@michaeldalton6176 5 месяцев назад
Please review the game after it releases ❤
@Nando75549
@Nando75549 4 месяца назад
Super off topic, but if SMT5 ever gets an "Enhanced" version, it'd fill me with optimism and a bit of dread at the same time. Like, will it be a digital expansion or a complete separate $70 purchase? Will they improve the story or will it be much worse? "Will Luci-Frost escape Demi-Kids Purgatory to make a new appearance!?" (The last part was a joke, but god if only)
@Takhrod
@Takhrod 4 месяца назад
You predicted smt5 vengeance lmaoo
@user-oh8qm1gk9z
@user-oh8qm1gk9z 3 месяца назад
Its a separate game
@TheKingNappa1
@TheKingNappa1 5 месяцев назад
Except persona 3 on ps2 still exists so if you don’t like this you still have the original
@kowaikokoro
@kowaikokoro 5 месяцев назад
For anyone still on the fence about p3r there are leaks out in public as physical copies got shipped early! would definetly check the 10 min early tatuturs gameplay or the first 30 minutes leaks as the animations, voiceacting, soundtrack is an absolute banger!
@zaphodthefoolonthehill7380
@zaphodthefoolonthehill7380 7 месяцев назад
i just hope that this game comes out in my region
@Jimmylikehalo
@Jimmylikehalo 6 месяцев назад
I fully agree with you and think that remakes as a whole don't have to replace the orginal but be kind of it's own thing kind of similar to re4 where the original and remake are both resident evil 4 but differnt takes on it and I like both of them for what they do differntly
@chriscoolmoreno
@chriscoolmoreno 7 месяцев назад
I can't remember when I played p3, but I remember being in middle school so man that was forever ago
@kalemuncher9425
@kalemuncher9425 7 месяцев назад
It's nice to hear such a level-headed and reasonable opinion like this. I will say that I myself am very much excited to experience P3 again in a new way, but I can definitely understand the scepticism when P3 is a game that is very much defined not only by its strengths but by its flaws too. It's a unique game that won't always strike the same chord with everyone, so no matter what, I think that this game will have a lot of divisive discussion surrounding it. Great video! Looking forward to what you make next :)
@keip4568
@keip4568 7 месяцев назад
Rip The Answer forever. Also yes P5R even the original was way too easy even on the hardest difficulty
@Danielss250
@Danielss250 7 месяцев назад
You know when I played p3fes I wasn't that connect to internet fandoms and such, I just played the game and though it was amazing. Some years later with the rise of social media I learned that yukari and the answer were hated for some reason, I never quite understood why. I can kinda see it now with the answer since it's made to be harder than the main game hard mode and most persona players are very casual, so I understand now that the rpg aspect is kinda superfluous to them, it needs to be there but it can't be a barrier to progression. I still don't on the yukari aspect tho.
@ARAnime
@ARAnime 7 месяцев назад
I know for me I agree with all these cases + more. I played 3 a while ago. 7-10 years or so. The new va's aren't bad by any means but im still salty about the change and will always be since they fit the characters more. I do like the new music too but some of the rearranged tracks don't work with the new singer cause you can't just copy yumi's style...however her own original songs are good. Also Orgia mode is gone, or at the very least is in aigis therulegy attack I think. either that or its completely gone
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 6 месяцев назад
Orgia Mode still exists, it's part of Aigis' Theurgy
@pedrongreen
@pedrongreen 7 месяцев назад
I agree with almost eveerything you said but I don't think this is a question of PS2 games being too old, this coming from someone who grew up with a PSone. FES is great but the lack of a fast travel option really makes the game a bit tedious, hence why I prefer P3P. And for all that P3P does well, it takes a way a lot of the visuals, so for me right now we're stuck between two versions that aren't fully realised. If P3R fixes that, for me this will be the definitive version. But yeah, let's hope the game isn't as easy as P5R. Part of its charm is the complexity of the combat.
@valemontgomery9401
@valemontgomery9401 5 месяцев назад
Idk. Atlus is rolling in cash after P5 so I find it highly suspicious that they’re not putting in FES and Portable content. I smell a “Deluxe” edition or DLC scam later down the road. Same energy as Pokémon’s Gen 4 remakes not including the enhanced version’s improvements tbh. Just feels like laziness to save a buck
@edl4767
@edl4767 5 месяцев назад
Switch 2 will get the royal version for sure. Reload is a scam
@Dinklr
@Dinklr 7 месяцев назад
literally all of your complaints don't apply to me since i played the portable version so anything fusion attacks being added to the game is awesome. Persona 5 just has better gameplay than 3 and i'm very happy to see they are changing the base version to not be ass. I can finally experience the story with proper presentation.
@Blurredborderlines
@Blurredborderlines 7 месяцев назад
Easier...you mean easier gameplay, it's not objectively "better" it's just monumentally less punishing than P3 even on Normal difficulty.
@Cool750Boy
@Cool750Boy 5 месяцев назад
I am with you in thinking that the original Persona 3 did not need a remake. Maybe this will serve as the definitive version of the game, which I know is an issue for many persona 3 fans, as they bicker as to which of the three versions (original, FES, and Portable) are the best or canon.
@kierinhernandez7524
@kierinhernandez7524 5 месяцев назад
I mean thinking about theurgia you need to charge it up so it won't always be available to the player I see it as lowering the grinding capabilities of the game as it shortcuts grinding by speeding up battles. Different characters also charge up in different ways so that may encourage exploration in different combat features like maybe mitsuru builds it by using marin karin with follow up attacks. As a Persona 5 player i threw out all status spells as I felt they wasted a turn that could be damage. If theurgia is what I think it is then it will incentivize the player to experiment outside their typical strategies. For FEMC i can totally see a dlc possibility for the game
@glasssawsslipperstraws7410
@glasssawsslipperstraws7410 6 месяцев назад
When it comes to remakes, I tend to be less worried since if the game DOES end up being bad then you can always play the good version on the ps2. I hope they did balance the game around controllable party members since p3p was not AT ALL and was wildly easy.
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 7 месяцев назад
5:18 hey... Will they get an upgrade after the evolution?!
@Snzn18
@Snzn18 7 месяцев назад
having a limit break like sytem isn't necessarily "spam this and win all fights" card with no tactics involve whatsoever.. since Depending on how the game let's you fill the bar to activate this then there are still ways to incorporate this to gameplay tactics. Like in most games its more beneficial for players to actually reserve using for specific battles rather than spam it when ever you filled up the guage or in long ass dungeons you can use them to breeze some mob fights to conserve potion or time grinding (especially when some mob monsters won't offer much of a significant exp awards or loots to be worthwhile in paying much time and tactics just to beat them in every encounter) If the limit break system is more like Trails' S-craft, then it won't end up as just all of them ending up as a final attack but some willl be used as buffs, healing or debuffs.
@jonathancampos6955
@jonathancampos6955 6 месяцев назад
I hope that Metaphor: ReFantazio is coming in 2024. Aren't you Nam's Compendium? Are you going to make a video about Metaphor: ReFantazio
@KatanaRikku
@KatanaRikku 7 месяцев назад
Great video and fair concerns. I am seriously considering playing P3 Portable before heading into this Remake just so I have context in case things in the story change.
@victorcobane6644
@victorcobane6644 5 месяцев назад
I'm really excited for P3R, and I think it's looking good so far, but one complaint I do have is that the visuals seem Persona 5-ified. Like, Instead of the cool, muted, depressive charm and color palette of the original, everything seems bright and shiny, which feels like it suits the game less. I also would have liked the sprites to have retained being of most of the body, instead of just becoming head close ups again, but overall it's not that big a deal. I'm still thrilled to see what the game has in store for me, since this will be my first experience with P3.
@gamefreakDX
@gamefreakDX 7 месяцев назад
I enjoy Baton Pass, but I'll be honest and say that I wasn't particularly sure I wanted it in P3R. I see Baton Pass as a tool to aid in damage or negotiation-initiating. P3 didn't really need it, but I guess this is the least concerning issue regarding the gameplay.
@heroicgangster9981
@heroicgangster9981 7 месяцев назад
If Tactics truly is removed, that kinda is pretty sad because it's not really something every turn based RPG would have. I would get not wanting automated party members for Persona Q, but I think the RNG strategy based battle system of Persona games is what is fun about the franchise.
@papapalps2415
@papapalps2415 7 месяцев назад
But RNG 'strategy' (fucking omega-lul) based gameplay isn't a Persona thing, though, lul. It's an exclusively P3 thing, or rather, exclusively the fumbling of a new team of game devs trying out things to see what works and doesn't work. And like, uh, literally every other game studio in the history of humanity has discovered, automated party members is shit, and people who think that, AHKSUALLY, its great, are huffing so hard on copium that you would die if you were to be separated from it.
@lulu_TheWitchBoy
@lulu_TheWitchBoy 7 месяцев назад
Literally persona 3 the only game to have that, and nobody liked it, except the people that wanna be different.
@heroicgangster9981
@heroicgangster9981 7 месяцев назад
@@papapalps2415 Kinda hate that my comment of hopefully wanting Tactics not entirely removed means that I’m supporting the wrong thing being included in a game. I just use Tactics so that my jrpg experience feels like a team is being managed and not having to be the main guy to choose how everyone acts for each battle. I wasn’t being hateful, but for some reason you wanna go savage on just me hoping they just don’t ditch tactics altogether.
@heroicgangster9981
@heroicgangster9981 7 месяцев назад
@@lulu_TheWitchBoy Well yeah? Sometimes I wanna play differently than just managing my party members actions for every battle. It’s not really innovation to remove a feature. Portable gave you both direct party member control and tactics. I don’t get what’s the problem
@Skips531
@Skips531 7 месяцев назад
Idk, I was really excited for the Mario RPG remake and Jfc is it too easy due to the combat changes and I really hope the additions to combat don’t make P3 too easy as well
@mageyplss
@mageyplss 7 месяцев назад
I just hope they don't change the ending, didn't play any other version of P3 yet but I heard that the ending hits hard. I want to experience that for myself
@user-pr3ur6nt7h
@user-pr3ur6nt7h 7 месяцев назад
They have said that they won't change the story/ending, they might change some stuff in between the main story beats though (such as pacing)
@mageyplss
@mageyplss 7 месяцев назад
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@BUTTER1000
@BUTTER1000 6 месяцев назад
I'm very excited for this game however that excitement won't cure my disappointment of them for not making it a true Definitive Edition like many have asked for years, mainly the epilogue "the answer", something I want to experience but with QOL battle mechanics, got into many arguments " it doesn't need to be in the remake" I really don't care if it "needs" to be in the remake or not it's content whether people like it or not and I don't think content should be purposely ignored just because a few people didn't like it I really hope they have it as a plan DLC in the future or maybe even a standalone game cuz I don't believe this content should be left behind in the PS2 era or forced to use emulators just to experience it or watch some random youtuber play it, tho I don't really don't understand some of the people who are so insistent on hating people for asking the answer to be even be included " I personally hated the answer so it doesn't need to be in the remake" the answer is the one mode that needed a remake the most yet people believe "it can't be fixed" just because they disliked how it played with outdated mechanics, " it was grindy" all the more reason to have it included in the remake lmao so they can fix that lol. plus it's more content why are people against adding more content?
@Ragiroth
@Ragiroth 7 месяцев назад
The main thing that just sours is me not getting The Answer. I only played portable and missed out on it. I know people dont like it but they could always fix it
@barbedblinga421
@barbedblinga421 7 месяцев назад
I agree 100% I'm surprised there are so many people against putting The Answer in Reload, this would be the time to fix what people had problems with
@BUTTER1000
@BUTTER1000 6 месяцев назад
@@barbedblinga421 same, I see so many people against adding it because " answer bad" and believe that it cannot be fixed even with QOL changes which I don't understand that point why can it not be fixed? They never explain other than " because I disliked it personally so it's bad and does not need to be included because I personally disliked it"
@kennethyoung7457
@kennethyoung7457 5 месяцев назад
@@BUTTER1000 They are just defending Atlus honestly why wouldn't you want content that was in the previous release remade to be better as a fan? Not to mention its canon story content unless they plan on changing the ending in Reload the Answer should have been in the game.
@eraneranera
@eraneranera 7 месяцев назад
even if it is potentially unreasonable, i personally don't see much point in a p3 remake if it isn't intended as a definitive edition. p3 has its quirks, but idk, maybe i'm just too tolerant about its lack of qol features when compared to current games. i'd really rather have good remasters of fes and p3p than a remake. i also won't be surprised if atlus tries to sell a revised edition of p3r in a few years that has some fes/p3p content added in. p3r pulling an ffviir and doing something different is about the only thing that could justify its existence to me and interest me in playing it lmao.
@user-nd6kj8yp8u
@user-nd6kj8yp8u 6 месяцев назад
I'm the most casual gamer ever but im excited to play persona 3 reload since the only game ive played in the persona series is P5 royal. Hyped to play metaphor and Persona 6 too
@fdevlin5932
@fdevlin5932 5 месяцев назад
Why would you consider whether you could do much to “stop this remake from happening” ?
@KingOfGoblins1234
@KingOfGoblins1234 5 месяцев назад
Ive never played Persona 3. My entry to the series was Persona 5 Royal, and after how streamlined that game is for a casual consumer like myself, hearing how some features work in the older games makes me feel like i wouldnt enjoy the older titles. Im super excited for this as it seems to be making changes that would be inclusive to someone like myself. That being said, I can see how being a long time fan then having to deal with all these new changes could be frustrating.
@antho9401
@antho9401 7 месяцев назад
One thing is for sure. I wont use the theurgy attacks almost never and also play the game in hard difficulty
@natenamaxisbored
@natenamaxisbored 7 месяцев назад
I hope after Persona 3 Reload they would announce at least something for Persona 6. Or even a remake of Persona 1 and 2 or a rerelease of digital devil saga
@Djay_B
@Djay_B 5 месяцев назад
I've wanted to get into the original Persona trilogy (1 thru Eternal Punishment) ever since I finished P4G after playing P5R! I think they'd be more accessible with all the QOL stuff the newer games have.
@zephyrorsomethinh1528
@zephyrorsomethinh1528 7 месяцев назад
the fact you just shrug off The Answer because it's "bad" is stupid. I think it's very fair to have The Answer. For a remake it's literally going to be missing the end of the Persona 3 story. FeMC is a different story due it being basically a second game but still missing out on the actual end of Persona 3 even if The Answer is bit of a meh story seems wrong
@backupschmliff1156
@backupschmliff1156 7 месяцев назад
Episode Aigis is great. He just sucks at the game tbh. It has some of the best writing in P3 in it. I assume it's not here because it's very existence spoils the ending.
@zephyrorsomethinh1528
@zephyrorsomethinh1528 7 месяцев назад
@@backupschmliff1156 Honestly i don't actually like The Answer that much myself i just don't think a part of the story should be lost because some people don't like it. The only way it spoils the ending though is if you play it first over The Journey
@jairekambui7738
@jairekambui7738 7 месяцев назад
Answer is complete trash narratively and gameplay wise, the remake loses nothing for omitting it or the FeMC.
@backupschmliff1156
@backupschmliff1156 7 месяцев назад
@@jairekambui7738 You gotta get better at games bro
@jairekambui7738
@jairekambui7738 7 месяцев назад
@@backupschmliff1156 Damn, what a great defense.
@spiderkid479
@spiderkid479 5 месяцев назад
I’m hoping the theargy attack meters reset after battle, that way they can’t be spammed
@ballistic2527
@ballistic2527 7 месяцев назад
explain why the answer is bad, aside from "gameplay bad". everyone always says "answer baddd!!!!!!!!!" but never explains why
@jairekambui7738
@jairekambui7738 7 месяцев назад
It has redundant character arcs, characters repeating exact character arcs from the original game just with the context of the mc deceased, and pointlessly reveals the circumstances that lead to the characters awakening their personas. Many of them were incredibly weak and impotent scenarios that we never needed to see because we already knew how they all awakened them. It also directly and blatantly explains to you what happened at the end of P3 that you can actually use context clues to figure out if you pay close enough attention. All in all it’s a pretty pointless extra story that tarnishes the original’s beautiful ending.
@zackrobs1529
@zackrobs1529 4 месяца назад
random weird thought from a new fan, but what are your thoughts on characters joining and then narratively exiting the party like Loki and Pocket Watch? nicknamed for spoiler reasons if that's a relevant thing. good or bad or nothing? does it take anything away? could it happen again in P6? etc
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