I made a MISTAKE | Zoom LiveTrak L 8

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Still love this livetrak l-8 mixer but I was wrong about it in my first review, and I needed to correct that info! PLUS... I do an update about my feelings on it after one year of use!
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So... I wish I hadn't stuffed up in the first video... but I did. The information about the jack to xlr and trs to xlr is not quite accurate in that video, so I wanted to correct it in case some of you watching that video were put off by it, or wanted to use it in a different way etc.
I also missed out some info in that review about the l-8 being able to be battery powered, and it's multitrack capabilities. Anyway, hopefully covered it now, and apologies to Zoom and anybody who watched the first review and missed the info you needed on it.
PLUS... this was fun to make haha! so if nothing more, perhaps you get a laugh out of watching the video, and if you already have a livetrak I hope you're enjoying it as much as I am mine!
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@chrisbala738 3 года назад

Thanks for the update. Your initial review was one of the reasons I got the mixer. Love it so far, but sometimes think I should have splurged for the L-12.

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

Cheers Chris. I sometimes wonder the same thing haha! I really wanted the battery option and value that aspect for mobile recording... but i’ve also done less of it than i expected as I mentioned haha! What sort of projects are you mostly creating?

@chrisbala738 3 года назад

@@davidshanhun mostly spoken word... Right now getting used to the gear on conference calls etc, but prepping to produce online courses / RU-vid in 2021

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

Awesome!

@MattBrodeurMusic 3 года назад

@Chris Bala What does the L-12 have that the L-8 doesn't - other than 4 more channels?

@MattBrodeurMusic 3 года назад

Never mind. Saw your reply a couple comments down. Thanks!

@ballingit 3 года назад

Should I get this or the zoom p4? Mostly for podcasting and chatting during gaming. Might record music but rarely, never dived into that area before

@arinconc 3 года назад

Thanks Davis for your time!!! Greetings from Madrid!

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

Most welcome! Hello back from New Zealand 😄

@arinconc 3 года назад

@@davidshanhun New Zealand was the destination of my honeymoon in 1989. It is the most beautiful place I have ever seen !!

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

aww that's so cool! Come back and visit~ 😊

@thephoenixchant Год назад

Hi, David. I have a question. Do you know if activating the Phantom Power affects just all of the XRL inputs OR the XRL inputs AND the TRS inputs of all the inputs? This is important for me to know if I should go for the L12 or the L8 can do the trick to recordall the instruments + the Phantompowd Condenser mic ate same time? Thanks! You might have to use a voltimeter to check it out The doubt is because I'd like to record 2 Guitars, 1 Bass, 1 keyboard 1 Drum Machine + 1 condenser Phantom Powered Mic at the same time with the unit, and I'd want to do it safely

@Tom-sd2vi 2 года назад

The reason why you should not use the TRS to XLR cable is because that cable is for a balanced mono signal and the headphone out busses from the ZOOM board are unbalanced stereo busses. It is not only an issue because it sounds like crap and the volume is off but also might damage the board or the speaker amplifier in the long run. What you should use is a Jack stereo to Mono splitter, set the pan of the monitor channel fully to right or left and run that one of the mono jacks into the monitor speaker.

@davidshanhun 2 года назад

Tom you are a legend. Thank you for this and for explaining the info so well. Much appreciated.

@Tom-sd2vi 2 года назад

@@davidshanhun Thank you mate. I bought the L12 for my band partly because your video. It is great except for the annoying stereo monitor outs. By now I have found an even better solution than the jack splitter: I have made a bunch of mono summing cables. They are quite easy to make, just follow this video (except use a 6,5mm jack instead of the 3,5mm one): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VNcakSLTOvs.html

@davidshanhun 2 года назад

@@Tom-sd2vi ah that video is great. I got sent a reply a while back with a guy who was using a mono summed cable - but as your video link mentions - they are not particularly available for purchase! Glad you got this sussed and thanks again for the info!

@ivanromero3713 2 года назад

👏👏👏👏

@ivanromero3713 2 года назад

It can also be solved by making a trs - xlr cable (1 and 2) without connecting the r-3. That would only get one side

@rocket3704 3 года назад

Continuing our conversation from the previous video, I have a hard time understanding how it could be that a headphone output would lack the power to drive a line level input, and I'm wondering if there isn't something at play with your setup that is causing this behaviour.

@xueqi.stella1530 3 года назад

Hi David, i agree that the output signal is very low, i tried it myself lately and had to workaround by routing to my yamaha ag06. Seemingly in youtube everyone reviews its recording capability but not for live shows/streaming, especially with important things such as the output signal and the phone/soundpads. Thanks again for reviewing to confirm my thoughts and you have nothing to feel bad for!

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

Thanks for your comment! 😊 Has definitely been more reviews and comments on using it as a podcast mixer for sure! 😊

@IsaacYongMusic Год назад

Hello Xueqi! Good to see you here. Was researching on mixers and here I am, thanks for the info David! I'll check out your initial review too in a bit

@balmeros272 3 года назад

Hey can I connect a mixer to this zoom unit on my pc so they work together ?

@sandrodevo9537 3 года назад

David: is it true that, when recording 24/96, overdub function is disabled ? Thanks

@DonAlderOfficial Год назад

so how about aux sends to an external efx unit or guitar pedal

@mehmetcelal5358 3 года назад

Great videos, thank you very much, I would like to ask you, how the multitrack recording performance with a DAW is, could you give some information if you ever tried it, best regards from Turkey

@ButoTuhodKotsengmababa 3 года назад

Hi David, does the new update allow you to use it for iOS and take power from iphone and not run on batteries?

@takaliuang 2 года назад

Hei David, thank you for great information about L8. I am considering between L8 and behringer flow 8, in my country both has similar price... And is there any update about L8, like firmware, fix the problem you mention before?

@davidshanhun 2 года назад

Hey Selumiel! I am not overly familiar with the Flow 8 by Behringer - but it looks to be a better option if your main goal is live shows/performances. If you're after more on the recording side and ok with editing audio afterwards I would go with the Zoom L8. I hope that helps somewhat! No updates that I'm aware of with the L8, but there is a solution I haven't tested yet (others have and seems to be all good) which is to use a summed xlr cable - audiopile-net.3dcartstores.com/SUM-PSXM

@aaravpuri4537 3 года назад

Hi David, Thank You for your video. I am using this for singing via zoom meeting but not able to use effects and EQ available. Can I not use the effects when I use this mixer as an audio interface? Also, I am using L8 with computer through USB on a zoom meeting. Later I connect this with Motu M4, but I am still not seeing effects and EQ. I connected the L- 8 Master Output via XLR to Motu M4 and experience was not good. Are there any software, I can use with this mixer to get EQ and effects. Please advice.

@dkijc 3 года назад

from the manual: channels are routed to USB before the low-cut filter and equalizer are applied.

@imuzikworkstation3530 Год назад

my last 2 events was a disaster during live show..reverb sent not working..channel not sounding even though the metering shows signals coming in..😞

@stingylizard Год назад

Appreciated the video,thanks!

@smpiggystudio 3 года назад

Yes, you talked about adding a sweeping EQ and touchable controller from remote if possible, that is great idea, and I think a Gate or an Expander on each channel will also be a useful tool(I don't know why most recording mixers don't have such function and claim for podcasting......), and built by metal(my R24 ended up tinkling in the body).

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

The hard time finding the perfect mixer hehe! 😜

@tcalzuolo 3 года назад

is there a way to cue music on this unit? For example, let say that I am playing a cd track on channel 2 but want to cue a record on channel 3 but don't want the sound to play on the master. .

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

Hey Terenzio.. yes, you could cue music quite easily with this. It sounds a little odd but works well and is much simpler than it will sound with me writing it out. Have your headphones running into the mix A (or B or C) which can switch between hearing the main mix and mix A. Have mix A set with the level up on channel 3, then you can happily cue a record to the point you want and it'll only be in your headphones. Once you set the levels you want on Mix A, you don't have to ever switch back to it - it's just for you to hear. Then just adjust the fader on the main mix for that cue'd channel when you're ready. 😊

@tcalzuolo 3 года назад

@@davidshanhun .Did you know that Zoom couldn't even answer this for me? They said it couldn't be done. this is amazing thank you very much.

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

@@tcalzuolo no worries and enjoy!

@MrLittleblindshakey Год назад

Hi Dave, It is now 2 years since your 1-year follow-up. The question: What recorder would you purchase today? Zoom LiveTrak L 8, Tascam Model 12, QSC Touchmix 8, or another product. I am ready to purchase Zoom, but I thought I would check in first. I have been watching your channel for a while; good stuff! Thanks for putting all the information out there. - Dave

@hallvardpaulsen 3 года назад

Hello David. Thank you for a (well two) very informative videos about the L-8. One thing I wonder about though is that at 4:35 you say that a competing product (QSC TouchMix 8) allows you to plug in a USB and record individual channels (I would assume via a DAW). Is this not possible using the L-8? (I can do that using my Zoom H5..) Regards

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

Hi Hallvard. The QSC allows you to plug a USB stick in and record individual channels. It is one of the few products that does not require a DAW or external laptop which is why I would consider it and why it got a mention in this video. The L-8 can also record direct to the SD card with no laptop required. I'm simply comparing products that can do a similar thing, being able to capture each individual track without the need for an external laptop or a DAW. Hope that helps clear things up for you!

@hallvardpaulsen 3 года назад

@@davidshanhun Yes, that clarified. Thank you.

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

@@hallvardpaulsen 😊

@dsha2006 3 года назад

Why don't you use the master out for higher signal? Isnt that stronger than the monitor outs?

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

Master outs are sending already to the FOH speakers and they work great. To run the monitor and have the option to use a different mix etc is the challenge.

@ngerfandanjihan Год назад

Huh, weird. I've connected the headphone outputs with my speaker and I'm getting just as much sound as I'd get from the master. I wonder why is that? I'm using a portable rechargeable amp.

@davidshanhun Год назад

that's awesome. Had a few guys and gals explain it to me since this vid. Unbalanced headphone outputs vs balanced outputs which would normally go to a monitor etc. Essentially it may work depending on cable used and input into the speaker but not designed that way. If it's working for you though that's superb! 👌

@DocFUNKist 2 года назад

Thanks for the excellent video… I have a question… can you record a couple of channels that aren’t passed on to the master output? Eg… I have a DJ mixer and this has a Master and Booth out… will plug those to the L-8 via 4 XLR Chanel’s… Now, I will also plug a 🎤 into a 5th channel of the L-8… What I want is the following… be able to record every channel separately (I know it’s possible) But on the master I only want to have the mic and EITHER the booth or the master (of my DJ mixer) That’s because this is going from master to my ATEM for live-streaming. I hope this makes sense… Possible?! 😅

@davidshanhun 2 года назад

hey Doc! Yes you absolutely can - couple of ways to do this. 1. If you don't need any audio coming out to a live setting you can simply record the channel with the faders on zero - it will capture that channel at the gain level input and you can use it as suits later. 2. Plug everything in as normal and record as normal on each channel. Setup the levels you want on the mix to go into the house system etc via the monitor/mix outputs, and on the master which will go to your ATEM set the levels appropriately also - with the volume fader on zero (not muted) for the channels you don't want. I've done this version for live shows and livestreaming at the same time and it works great. Just remember using the mute button applies to all mixes, so you need to adjust the faders for each mix to the levels you want. 👌

@DocFUNKist 2 года назад

@@davidshanhun wow exactly what I wanted. Thanks a lot. I’m having the mixer delivered today. Will give it a try. Thanks a lot for the detailed response, much appreciated.

@DocFUNKist 2 года назад

@@davidshanhun Thanks a million. I followed your tips and it worked like charm. Thanks

@doomstar2472 3 года назад

I’m torn between Tascam 12 and Zoom l12. Almost bought Zoom I12, had it in my hands but held back. Will Tascam 12 work with Reaper? I have a Tascam DP -24. I like it but I do need to make adjustments using DAW. I’ve avoided interfaces and computer recording for a very long time focusing on just writing music with real physical instruments but a DAW and a mixer/interface sounds like a perfect tool to add to tool box.

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

Oooh super tough choice! I don’t know specifically about the model 12 with reaper, but I expect it would (sorry I’m not more helpful on that one at the moment!) are you mostly recording rather than playing live?

@doomstar2472 3 года назад

@@davidshanhun Yes, Home recording only for now. I’m transferring my tunes from Tascam DP 24 SD to reaper and listening via Boss AD10 acoustic preamp into JBL 305 monitors It works for now. The Boss AD 10 can be used as an interface. I would like to acquire newer gear to keep up with the times. Good channel and info. Subscribed..

@juneaftn 3 года назад

@@doomstar2472 I was considering Tascam 12 but after reading some negative reviews I turned my head away. There seems to be some firmware/driver issues when USB connected.

@doomstar2472 3 года назад

@@juneaftn Yes I read the same.

@smpiggystudio 3 года назад

I've used Zoom R24 before, and it can control your DAW which is great. I think Model 12 will more suit for your condition, 1st round is recording everything, then 2nd round is in post production with those faders help. If you have to do a lot of volume curving or panning, Model 12 based of HUI will make the work easily. I never used Tascam products before, but it is a good brand you can have trust.

@ehmilenhanceideas1262 2 года назад

Can we video record using a mobile phone while playing guitar and singing to a mic connected all in this mixer,

@davidshanhun 2 года назад

yes. There is a dedicated output trrs cable to plug into your phone for this. You may need an adaptor for iphone (which is what I use).

@elda2010ful Год назад

@@davidshanhun hi. Do you have a video talking about the sound pad? I have a L 12 and everything you has explained with L8 apply to the L12 plus some other fixtures. The L12 missing trrs jack. Is there other alternative for (mix minus) or trrs? Thanks I love your videos!

@BlossomVpiano Год назад

Hi David. Just discovered your channel. I'm a pianist. Newbie to audio tech. Hope to record my music from my digital piano (to be converted into required mp3 file) to upload to a platform (which I will be able to go live in future). Upon advised from a friend, I bought an audio interface and related DAW, but feeling too overwhelming using the DAW!! :-( All I want to do at this stage is to record in stereo, trim intro/outro and convert into mp3; of course being able to set gain etc. While I am trying to figure this out which may take a while..... in the mean time, is there a mixer, pre amp etc I can do these things on WITHOUT using a DAW? If I am able to play back and add my own percussion etc, would be great.

@davidshanhun Год назад

hey Blossom, thanks for the question - as soon as you want to trim audio etc then a DAW is usually the best option to go with. You could use something like the livetrak to do this - setting a marker as the starting point rather than trimming the audio, but it would keep playing anything afterwards, and you're going to need to learn how to use the mixer - where it's probably best you spend the time learning the DAW. Which DAW are you using? Can be quite daunting to start with, but there are some really good tutorials, and as you experiment and become familiar with it, it will start to become easy for you - just takes that initial frustration and learning curve though eh?!

@BlossomVpiano Год назад

@@davidshanhun hi David. Thank you for your advice. I have presonus studio one 5. (Presonus studio 68c audio interface). Looks like I need to stick with my DAW and get up courage to face it. Thanks so much.

@danilofio Месяц назад

if the headphones outputs is so low, can i use a amplifier wireless headphones with no problem?

@davidshanhun Месяц назад

the headphone outputs aren't super low for headphones because that's what they're designed for. But if you are driving a speaker you're getting signal designed for headphones rather than a line level for a speaker which is the issue!

@dkijc 3 года назад

You bring up such an interesting topic. Ability of on-the-go without a need for power. I'm actually torn between this or the Motu Ultralite mk5. Yes. It's much more expensive but I liked the expandability and all the I/Os you get. You also don't need a laptop. I believe you still need an ipad/iphone to do all the faders/eqs and such. But the ability of bringing the L8 to any location sounds soooooo tempting. Was there a reason why you didn't go to cool location to record and gig? Or was it just covid related? Thanks for these videos!!

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

heya! yeah that looks like a cool piece of gear also. I have been focussed on touring in New Zealand and just back from being on the road playing shows. It's still on my list to record in all sorts of cool locations, but keeps getting pushed back with other commitments and goals!

@yiufailin4858 2 года назад

Hi David, Thanks for the informative videos! Appreciate on your work! However i still don't get it, did you find any good way to connect L-8 to an active power speaker as monitor?

@davidshanhun 2 года назад

hi! Yes - it's possible. I actually should do an update still on this as I learnt even more after making this second video! What you need is a mono summed cable and it works great. That's why the signal was so low - it was essentially cancelling itself out. Otherwise what I did for quite a long time was use a single jack to jack cable into another mixer, and then out of that to a speaker - but that is a headache and extra gear!

@yiufailin4858 2 года назад

@@davidshanhun Thanks for the reply! However I'm not sure how's a mono summed cable looks like. Can you provide image or link for better understanding? Appreciate that, Thanks in advance!!

@davidshanhun 2 года назад

@@yiufailin4858 audiopile-net.3dcartstores.com/SUM-PSXM hope that helps :) If you want to dive deeper into it I recommend reading this for better understanding - silentsky.net/wordpress/archives/624

@yiufailin4858 2 года назад

@@davidshanhun Thanks for the fast response! From the link image i think it was just like a balance Jack to xlr cable.. Maybe the way to solder it is different? I need some time to study on this. Thanks a lot! And i got another question through, when u are using l8 on a live gig, does the gain knob need to push until very high?(like more that 2-3 o'clock)? Or it actually almost same as the other brand mixers? The preamp work nicely? I apologize for the broken English =x

@davidshanhun 2 года назад

@@yiufailin4858 the gain setting is dependant on the amount of signal coming from the instrument or mic. I think the preamps work nicely - but a lot of that is subjective as we all have different tastes and different ears for certain things. Hope it's all helped though.

@fulldork 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for a great video! We are experiencing buzzing on the XLR master out. Is there any way to stop that? (Phantom power is off)

@davidshanhun 11 месяцев назад

cheers! My guess is it will be from the power supply as it's not grounded (by default on this unit). Are you running it from the supplied usb-power connection that came with the unit, or usb into a computer or other device?

@fulldork 11 месяцев назад

@@davidshanhun thanks for the reply. It ended up being a ground noise loop. Bought a de-hummer and that solved it

@davidshanhun 11 месяцев назад

perfect! @@fulldork

@EPHONIC 3 года назад

I have used the headphone jacks for the left and right stereo output to my desktop monitor speakers and home receiver with cables that are 1/4 to RCA and it works great with no volume issues. Now, I am in the market for proper PA speakers. Any suggestions?

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

awesome glad to hear it! Suggestions for PA speakers entirely depends on the shows you're doing, what you're running through them, and any other considerations for spec's that you need. Without knowing all the details of it'd be kinda silly for me to try and advise sorry!

@Lukedrummer Год назад

I assume that when you speak about the poor volume of the to jack to XLR you refer to the stereo channels? I've been extremely disappointed with stereo channels. I plugged in my iPhone to play along with a song, and noticed the volume was extremely low in both master/monitor out as well as in the recording. So disappointing! I guess the only option would be to send the signal from my iPhone through an amplifier or another mixer, and then plug it in the stereo channel of the Livetrak... But again, it seems like there's something not working there, the stereo channels are pretty much useless as is, what do you think?

@davidshanhun Год назад

hey Luke. No - not referring to the stereo channels and have had no issues with them like you're describing. Not sure quite what you could try other than running somebody else's phone and different cables to do a few tests of sorts to try and find the issue. My issue described was the headphone outputs on this unit - and I was hoping them to work as standard monitor (balanced) outputs, but they aren't setup that way. Let me know if you find a solution to your low volume issue though!

@ItsaCatsLife 4 месяца назад

Have you used the L-8 as an Audio Interface on a Windows 10 PC? Doesn't seem to work for me. Reaper DAW sees the L-8 ASIO driver but cannot load it or any channels.. Frustrating.

@davidshanhun 4 месяца назад

Have you installed the zoom driver - this is the first requirement on mac or pc. Presuming yes from the reaper comment but just checking 🤔

@ItsaCatsLife 4 месяца назад

@@davidshanhun Thanks David. Yeah, driver installed and checked was running. Tried all kinds of suggested 'fixes', even went so far as trying on another laptop with the same negative result....until ....the unexpected solution was found. The fault was with the (new) USB cable Zoom supplied with the L-8 !! I grabbed another USB cable and bam! All working... Thanks for responding though. Cheers!

@davidshanhun 4 месяца назад

ah that's both frustrating and also awesome you solved it haha! The frustration of a dodgy cable :P @@ItsaCatsLife

@rodroyo 3 года назад

David, I suspect that you are double wrong with this second time review. The L8 should allow you to assign independant eq to each channel. Have you checked the manual correctly in this part?

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

Hi Rodrigo, yes I am aware I can do this with the L8 - i don't think there's anywhere I said the L8 can't do that during this clip (that I’m aware of!) Just that it doesn’t have an eq on the main out which I would be grateful for 👌

@thetokyorake 3 года назад

@@davidshanhun Absolutely. I can't use it live without an EQ for my mains and monitors. Shame. It's so close!

@johnsynk 2 месяца назад

@@davidshanhun But if you wanted to just adjust your guitar or voice mic eq individually you could do that - am I right David?

@JamesVytas 2 года назад

Can’t zoom record individual channels over usb?

@davidshanhun 2 года назад

yes it can do that.

@ianl.9271 3 года назад

Would the L-12 be a better option?

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

I think in most cases yes. The battery power option was part of the L-8 attraction for me.

@kentoeveryone 3 года назад

I had to buy new headphones to be able to hear them. Also, batteries lasted about an hour, but i haven't tried a second time. So the weird thing with this mixer is it's kind of wonky. On one occasion turn up the inputs, nothing, turn down and up again, get volume. Things like that. Also, i get occasional distortion in headphones when recording, particularly on bass, but also on vocals, though level shows green. Distortion doesn't appear in actual recordings. I very much want to love this mixer, but I feel there needs to be a master course somewehere

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

Hey Ken. Glad you're having fun playing around with it! Just takes a bit of reading regarding the inputs and volume - the mixer is designed to remain at the same level for each channel, and will only adjust volume once the fader reaches the previous level (shown by the lit up led lights on that channel). This is so when you're jumping between mixes, the levels stay the same until you intentionally shift them. Hope that helps! Haven't had any issues with distortion, but sounds like it might be from the headphones not handling the bass very well - especially if it's not showing up on recordings! Feel free to reach out if you get stuck on something - otherwise highly recommend downloading the manual which is online and will help you make sense of some of those quirks!

@aubreygrandy170 2 года назад

My zoom l12 drops audio in playback. BTW, I'm using a G7 Dell Laptop. I'd love for someone to be able to help me with this.

@davidshanhun 2 года назад

hey Aubrey - this sounds like a laptop issue rather than the Zoom unit - but want to tell me a bit more about how you're running it and what exactly happens. Might be able to find a solve for you.

@aubreygrandy170 Год назад

@@davidshanhun Sure, I'd love to have your help and get this issue resolved. I'm not sure what kind of information you would need but I am thinking a good place to start would be the output signal. Right now it is is set at 2 channels, 32 bit, 44100 hz (studio quality). Is this where it should be?

@davidshanhun Год назад

@@aubreygrandy170 when the audio drops does it drop on the channel strip? and does it simply drop then continue with no action from you or what happens? Are you playing music from a DAW, and if so what DAW? We can chat about the sample rates and things in a bit but first need to know how you are using the unit 👌

@aubreygrandy170 Год назад

@@davidshanhun Hi, no channel strip and it happens with RU-vid playback. I have to reload the page for audio to start working again.

@davidshanhun Год назад

@@aubreygrandy170 can you check next time this happens before you reload the page - if in your sound settings the driver is still showing up? and just presuming here, but are you using the latest driver, and is your firmware on the l-12 is up to date? (you can grab them here if not). zoomcorp.com/en/us/news/livetrak-driver-update/ lemme know and we'll figure it out!

@fadel1254 9 месяцев назад

Hi How is it After 3 years?? Do you still use 🤔 😕 😊😊

@davidshanhun 9 месяцев назад

still good - and yes I still use it haha! There are more options that do this on the market now though (although more expensive).

@fadel1254 9 месяцев назад

@davidshanhun Thank you for your comments.. I have yamaha 12 but record only 2 lines.. I have zoom h6 it is nice .. but I like recording when I play .. can you tell me About more options .. thanks 😊

@davidshanhun 9 месяцев назад

@@fadel1254 most of the new desks have recording in them now tbh. the allen and heath cq range would be my fav option at the moment for both live and multi track recording. :)

@fadel1254 9 месяцев назад

@@davidshanhun Thank you 😊 Allen Amazing 👏

@jannicksaunus 8 месяцев назад

You need to use a Stereo 6,3 to 2x Mono XLR oder 2x Mono Jack. The headphone outputs are not balanced signals and if you try to plug it into a balanced input on a mixer I won’t work. So you need to split the stereo into two unbalanced mono outputs which you can than combine or feed separately into a mixer or DI box.

@davidshanhun 8 месяцев назад

thanks for this comment - probably the most simple/succinct explanation and much appreciated. I'm running a radial stagebug now to do exactly what you described which makes life simple. Thanks again!

@New777World 3 года назад

I think that you should elaborate bye demonstrating your equipment what or how you solved this xlr audio signal problem! I know you have explained it bye explaining it, but adding more gear to get the results you speak about is essential important to understand before investing in the right equipment! Showing us a video bye demonstrating like you have done in wonderfully in past videos!

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

hey Isaac thanks for this comment man I really appreciate the feedback! I would have loved to demonstrate it for you in video form like you mentioned and will keep it in mind for future videos. I have been travelling quite a bit this year, and at the time I made this I was about 1000km's away from all the rest of my gear so there wasn't much option this time around! Are you using the LiveTrak L-8 yourself?

@New777World 3 года назад

@@davidshanhun yes I iam still learning how it works though and acquiring the gear to set up as live zoom audio interface had a bit if trouble getting to work on the mac for the drivers on a zoom call as an audio interface but it works now!

@New777World 3 года назад

@@davidshanhun my objective for the livetrack l-8 is to perform singing with it and adding karaoke track through a zoom conference call on a live confrence meeting call, controling all of the audio performance with the livetrack l-8 using a MacBook.

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

@@New777World awesome!

@risbill1 3 года назад

Why wouldn't you just use the XLR master out to the speakers?

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

I do Raymond! The issue is when you are running a monitor as well as the main speakers, and the monitor requires either a different mix, or/and separate output and level. 👌

@risbill1 3 года назад

@@davidshanhun gotcha. Well if the headphone jack doesn't have enough juice then I guess you could try a simple headphone amp. Not sure that's a good solution or if it might introduce noise. Sounds like zoom needs to add line level out option for headphone jacks.

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

@@risbill1 true that! I'm still trying to figure out exactly what it is that's an issue to be honest as keep discovering new options. Headphones work fine, and have now found that running a standard TS cable works just fine to run a monitor. As soon as a balanced trs cable gets introduced all kinds of odd things happen for monitoring - yet that's what get's plugged in for headphones and they work a treat. 🤔Will happily accept input and knowledge on this!

@risbill1 3 года назад

@@davidshanhun I'd look at the specs for your monitors. Most times unbalanced inputs are configured for an input of around -10dBV and the balanced XLR is more like +4dbU. That would definitely translate to a huge difference in volume.

@jellofarce 2 года назад

@@davidshanhun I simply used a Male XLR to 1/4" TRS...plugged ONLY to the "first click!" VIOLA! Works perfectly with a powered monitor!

@JonWhiten1 3 года назад

You need a different cable. to testthat, use a TS (mono) Jack to XLR. you'll only get the left side but it is just a test before buying a custom cable :)

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

Have tested both TS and TRS and they work, the issue was the level of output they receive. Initially I genuinely thought there was simply no signal which was odd, but it’s simply because the signal is so so low, that I couldn’t hear any output. 👌

@JonWhiten1 3 года назад

@@davidshanhun ok. My thinking was that a TRS to XLR from a headphone out will give this result. The balanced I/P of the speaker, rather than summing L+R from the headphone output, does L-R; which will give you virtually nothing if everything is mono going to the headphone output.

@scmdavid999 3 года назад

@@JonWhiten1 Exactly correct

@thetokyorake 3 года назад

I continue to struggle with this mixer. It works for live practice, but I just can't imagine using it for a gig. I play in a duo and we each like to have our own monitor mix. With no EQ on the monitor outs, I'm leery. Not to mention the TRS XLR problems you've discussed. I have several other issues, too. When trying to use the monitor mixes (mix A, B, etc) into powered speakers via 1/4 inch to 1/4 inch, I can get a signal, but if I try to include a little FX send, it's like I'm sending the whole mix again. It immediately starts feeding back. I also have trouble recording multiple tracks. Sometimes it works, other times I only get one of the tracks recorded. I'll keep it for practicing. Maybe a future update will at least add some EQ to the mains and monitors. Thanks for reading!

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

yeah it's weakest point is live shows for sure eh! Interesting issue when adding fx into the monitor sends - that's a new one for me to come across. With regard to the recording part, that sounds like it might be an SD card that's not compatible with the unit - I'd recommend one of the higher spec'ed ones as it's writing quite a lot of data all at once! Hopefully that helps and you can enjoy all the multitracking parts of it!

@thetokyorake 3 года назад

@@davidshanhun Thanks! I'll keep playing around with it. Maybe we'll get a firmware update adding global EQs. Cheers.

@Knowherelse 3 года назад

Zoom L-12 vs Tascam model 12 for recording live band 🤔

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

really tough call tbh. Both great options, would depend on any specific requirements or other gear you were including. Will you be performing at a live venue that's a gig as well as a recording session?

@Knowherelse 3 года назад

@@davidshanhun Yes, recording live performances at a gig as well as studio

@mrmaramind 3 года назад

Not sure why your so far from the camera in this video, I can barely see you. LOL! I don't see that as a mistake if you couldn't actually hear anything. To me it is as good as not working if you can't hear anything and have to add an additional mixer to hear well thru the headphones. Great videos!!!

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

hehe! love it. Thanks. Yeah just wanted to clarify from the first video... we all use our gear differently so to someone that thought there was genuinely zero signal, it could have affected what they might have used it for!

@oatenroberts 3 года назад

David, loving the music. I can't believe I'm "that" guy but I can't find anything in the manual or or youtube as to why all my headphone mix work but my master headphone doesn't. I've left a message with zoom but... dude... help!

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

heya! My first thought on this is that it sounds like a fault with your unit - I haven't come across anything that would turn the master headphone mix off, and leave the master xlr's on. The only thing I would check is that the master headphone volume knob is turned up (I know I know this is the stupidly simple issue I'm sure you've checked), but the master headphone needs both the master fader at the level you want, plus it's own level turned up. I suspect it's not that, and the other option given your other headphone outputs are working make me suspect it may be a faulty unit 😝

@oatenroberts 3 года назад

@@davidshanhun Yeah always worth checking if it's, turned-on, turned up or plugged in but alas to no avail. The fact I'm getting all the Mix A,b and C sends but not the master headphone at all sounds like it's time to return it.... Thanks my crazy kiwi friend! Respect from across the dertch (Or ditch) as we Aussies call it.

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

@@oatenroberts yeah that sounds like a product issue. All the best with getting it replaced/sorted etc!

@GWENDOLYNBPONYO 3 месяца назад

Good information thank you but the background music is too loud

@davidshanhun 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the feedback 👌

@immichaelh 3 года назад

I had this same issue! The signal is sent but it's weak because they are headphone outputs and not monitor outputs! This mixer is not to be used for a live show. Instead, I HIGHLY recommend the Allen & Heath Mixer Zed 10fx. Great bang for your buck and practical in many situations. I made a video reviewing this.

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

Nice Michael. Yep that's nice mixer also. Not great if you are wanting the individual channel recording that this offers though haha! Guess that's why we all choose different ones though right!

@immichaelh 3 года назад

@@davidshanhun If you mean 4X4 (4 individual tracks in and out) USB recording, this mixer does that and Is the biggest reason I bought it!

@davidshanhun 3 года назад

@@immichaelh ah yes - sorry my bad I totally forgot about that for that mixer! I've been hunting for all the options that don't require a laptop as part of the setup recently - and I think it's gotten into my brain to write off anything that requires more than an SD or USB card haha! 😝