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As a Japanese person hearing your pronunciation of Kami killed me faster than the combo did

I’m surprised people feel so strongly about the swans 😂 I loved that video

An alternative, maybe even better wincon, could be "Light up the Night" making full use of all the mana in case you play against a lifegain deck.

I love how during the explanation, the background is showing a demonstration of exactly what he is saying. Very well done, props!

A really nice explanation in the start. I'm liking this style of video from Seth

Astral Cornucopia has always been my favorite mana stone because of how busted it can be in proliferate decks, then they went and fused it to a Hardened Scales and slapped it on a stick

a few interesting additions for standard would be venerated rotpriest or bitter reunion. In this deck, rotpriest reads play 10 pump spells and win the game. bitter reunion is interesting too because you can in theory wait until your opponent is tapped down then play Kami, give it haste and do the combo on same turn.

I love all the extra effort to cast the two burn spells in the intro when you have a 25/25 hexproof creature whule your opponent is tapped into it with no blockers.

I find it hilarious that after all those pump spells, the win condition is not to swing in with your 23/23 creature you've been pumping for the entire turn but rather to cast two burn spells and hope they work

24:00 you could have cast Marwin, legend ruled the big one off and then pumped up the small one to draw the bulls strength, at the very least it would have let you get leer on field

All this explanation and Seff doesn't realize that he could just attack for lethal, if needed.

You could also use the backup vampire that allows you to sack a creature and do damage equal to its power in place of explosive singularity

in standard, you could use Cradle Clearcutter in place of Marwyn as a second mana source, or even a third in Explorer

Dude this combo is sweet! I figured out that you can make it a pseudo rot priest deck, most of same cards are in use. When rot priest drops on turn one, it usually draws the removal away from the kami, but when you draw 20+cards or so you can drop in your win con. I like 4 rotpriest on board then storm the seed core!!! But you can sink your mana as you see fit. Most people don't know what's going on when the kami goes off lol. Well done dude

For the Standard version, maybe Invasion of Ikoria as a way to tutor up a Kami would be worthwhile to improve the deck's consistency

u have improved your videos a lot over the last years, its now shorter and more compact and i really enjoy it more

This is Magic Precisely as Richard Garfield intended

Cradle clearcutter from the brothers war does something similar, so that could improve the consistency.

The best part about turning the bell on is I get up to date notifications of which jank cards need to be immediately killed this week. 🤣

YES!!! I love this I'm gonna just pretend/hope this was the answer to my request and not just a coincidence you made a kami video after I suggested a similar deck build just in a previous video!!! Absolutely amazing happy you've brought the fun to the big screen. Also I like the addition of blue cards for card draw as I ran black in my build for tyvar shenanigans. Absolutely sick stuff keep it up!! 💯

I love this style of video. Good stuff seth

This was great! I like the new spin on the format, and it was cool seeing your process and how the deck develops.

I think for the explorer build, I'd cut the Liers for Clearcutters. 10 copies of your combo enabler seems infinitely better than Lier and having fingers crossed that you open Kami over Marwyn. Plus it'd be more budget friendly, being able to just run 22 forests, over the 12 rare lands and the 2 mythic Liers.

I have actually been playing this in explorer for a while because I loved your Marawyn standard deck so much. I also built it in commander.

Explosive Singularity seems like the wrong choice of finisher: it takes up 2 deck slots, can only beat a limited amount of lifegain, and has no other utility. Expansion/Explosion kills with a single copy and has tons of other upsides. The main thing is that you can use it to draw cards or copy a pump spell while comboing, then later flash it back to end the game. It beats infinite life by decking the opponent. It can even beats some creature/planeswalker hate pieces: e.g. beats Gideon of the Trials' emblem by decking the opponent and nuking Gideon simultaneously. Some other options are Banefire (uncounterable, damage can't be prevented), Thassa's Oracle (beats Leyline of Sanctity, spell redirection, and infinite life, but loses to counterspells) and Jace Wielder of Mysteries (like Thoracle, but better in a pinch since it draws a card, but has the disadvantage of losing to a removal spell in response to the draw effect).

Love how this is just 2 pretty budget decks in one for Arena

staff of domination from brothers war on top of having literally 5+ power. infinite mana of every color, access to any card in your ENTIRE deck due to SoD draw, and SoD will also make you able to tap and untap any creature at will.

23:00 I hate to be that person but I didn’t see anyone else mention it in the comments! You could have played the other Marwyn to sac the high power one to control how many cards you wanted to draw, you already had enough mana for lethal. That’s actually an UPSIDE of Marwyn over the Kami!

Is there a reason I'm not seeing why we have explosive singularity instead of Light up the Night?

Why Explosive Singularity instead of Light up the Night? Seems easier and way more damage

invigorating hot spring -> My add on to Kami. Although I was also using All Will Be One

This whole video I kept asking myself "Kami or Kami not pull this off".

I built a PDH deck around Kami of Whispered Hopes. It goes a little crazy, and I haven't even polished it off yet

Maybe for the explorer version should have one copy of the war of the spark jace. I forget the name.

With multiple tyvars you can go a lot larger by burning one or 2 early to create more mana

Rotpriest would also be a really good addition

Obvisiosly by the power of the Boognish!! Love your shirt dude

That kinda reminded me of the Song of Creation storm deck I played back in Ikoria standard.

I really like the format of the video and I’ve been meaning to watch the Swans deck at some point so thank you for the reminder. I do miss hearing “Agaiiiiinst the odds time” though.

Black decks and Blue Djinn decks love a such deck - easy win.

I run something similar, I throw in a couple vengeant earths for haste if I had to worry about removal, and I prefer season of growth as my card draw to avoid the mill out problem. I'm also a degenerate and throw in the rotpriest/ivy combo for good measure

What do you think of Hammerhand in this? with 1 more mana you can combo in the same turn, not having to wait for summoning sickness. Since it grows by +1 it makes Kami tap for enough for the untappers. Song of Totentanz could also double as haste enabler and a finisher Ancestral anger could also be a consideration for a finisher, it can cycle or expedite the mana generation mid combo and kami will still have trample by the time it gets big enough.

Fantastic video format 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼 well done and very entertaining

I wish there was a Target player draws X spell in standard because that would be such a better wincon than two off color burn spells.

"The most damage ever" I'm pretty sure I saw you or phil go over Arena's limit with a Devilish Valet once

In Historic Brawl. My greatest marwyn was 2147483647/55 with 23 +1+1 counters on it

Seth! The standard version could play Invasion of Ikoria as the 4 extra Kamis!!

Yea, 8th December last year I got demolished by Clearcutter comboing of, just like that! Tis a day I shan't forget!

Set having fun makes me a happy brother. 😊😊😊😊😊

I'd play [[Light up the Night]] rather than [[Explosive Singularity]], but this is still a really cool deck!

I have a sage of hours rot priest deck that would love this style

Curious as to why Marwyn over the prototype robot that isn't legendary?

Dear Saffron Olive thanks for the inspiring video. After seeing your standard version I concocted my own brew. Although not necessarily better or more consistent it has a bit more depth since it has more creatures and most of all wins with triskadekaidekaphile! I went for more of a +1/+1 counter sinergy plan because I couldn't quite pull it off in the original shell. Still simic, it includes faery mastermind, tribute to the world tree and Serum soverign. It is currently a messy brew, but I think somebody with a better collection and a bit more brewing skill can make it really work. I would be super interested in your thoughts

You janked your way into something golden🎉🎉🎉

You didn't put the deck list of the one with marwen! This is the only deck I will be building that is non-brawl also

reminds me of the old heartbeat of spring combo deck.

I was just grinding Bo1 ladder on arena standard with my mono red aggro deck and i ran into this deck twice in a row i find this hilarious cause i just watched this this morning. Also dont slip out the back my urbrask forge tokens it doesn't work out well for yall.

In the second game, I think you could have sacced the big marwyn to the legend rule and made a more modestly sized one to draw more cards and cast Lier using Rishkar's expertise. I think that would've put you in a better position to win on the following turns, not that you were in a bad enough position for it to actually matter.

It's an Onigiri and they're delicious! You should totally try one!

Equip urbral manal to the spirit. All you need is 2 mana to start then you gain as much freevmana as you want

Add Season of Growth and Illysian Caryatid, along with a single copy of Thud in the deck, and you can make this a crazy combo deck in Historic with zero Rares. Actually sort of works. Rooker did it on his channel: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--cqVFaPo1Ic.html

I run a Raggadragga EDH deck that is basically this combo. Just with more Fireballs

Always mad respect when these opponents dont scoop right away. Too bad the last guy left but i would've been gone instantly.

sick combo

I didn't see anyone else say it, but you could have Tyvar'd one of the kami for the exact number -1 in your deck, then drew off its power and guaranteed your trample spell.

You can also add rotpriest as an outlet to win the game

I like when he speaks like a normal person

Here for the Kami. Thanks for dis 🤩

27:55 You had all the cards and didn't need ALL the damage lol

You can do it mono green with Shigeki and Season of Renewal

Christ almighty, imagine this deck with Thousand-year Storm… 😱

Really curious about your actual win rate with this deck opposed to just showing us matches where you go off. I'm well below 50% due to mana screw or removal or not having the card draw or turn 1 thoughseize.

Did you consider throwing in a few copies of Aetherflux Reservoir in the deck?

Just so that you guys know this is still possible using the current set just without the flash back creature and with another finishing card

I love how during your first game where you explained the deck, the 2 singularities were the last 2 cards in your deck... what are the odds of that, eh?

What about Shigeki instead of Lier? Stays mono-green and can channel it to get a bunch of our spells back from the graveyard

i have the same kind of "fun but super janky deck" using Zada, Hedron Grinder... super inconsistent but fun

Add in an Audacity for the trample.

You could consider one copy of Colossal Growth or similar to give your Kami trample as another way to kill the opponent

Great video! Loved the story and everything.

I'm over here like Pieces of the Puzzle hasn't been in Standard for awhile.

What about Season of Growth for the explorer version, all those untap cards become cantrips.

Can't you force the opponent to draw their entire library imstead?

Seth: Infinite mana and a mana dork with literally unfathomable power. Me: What is your opinion on 2WW Instants, Seth probably better known as SaffronOlive?

TIL Return of the Wildspeaker Overrun mode doesn't give Trample.

“_____ storm” “you son of a b#&$h, I’m in.”

Could adding rotpriest add another wincon? With all the target spells seems like 10 poison would be easy.

In the mono green version, you could have legend ruled your Marwyn to get your draw spells online, but with no haste source I don’t know that it mattered. If there’s any green haste effect in the format, that could be worth looking into.

it seems like it would be easier to run a single thoracle for a win-con edit: I just realized that this is standard

I was thinking that maybe the green battles can help with consistency for the standard version. The battle that puts kami into play is a little slow at 5 mana but it does help the consistency problem. The 2 mana battle lets you dig 4 deep for the kami as well.

I think should do the one mana +1/+1 counter on the creature and untap it mainly because of kami doing hardened scales

You could also give your Kami trample.

Awww sweet twiddle storm in standard

Mishra's command would be really good in this deck

Seth, when you had the 100+ mama floating and all the kamis, couldn’t you have pumped one of them and drawn more cards without decking yourself?

"There's only 1 Kami of Whispered hopes in standard" Cradle Clearcutter is in standard.

What about Tyvar so you can tap for mana the turn it comes out?

Finally xD I told y'all this was a fun deck lol

Consider Ram Through as an extra option in addition to bulls strength