I microwaved a Negroni (here’s what happened)

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Today I’m finding out what happens when you microwave a cocktail. If you google “microwave cocktails” you’ll get an endless list of warnings about the dangers of microwaving alcohol - which makes sense considering ethanol is highly flammable and heating it about 78 degrees releases highly volatile vapours.
Amongst the sea of warnings you’ll find a few recipes from Ryan Chetiyawardana aka Mr Lyan. Ryan is one of the most innovative bartenders in the world. He’s been involved with numerous bars that have all featured in the top 50 bars in the world, he won world’s best cocktail bar, has been awarded best bartender in the UK twice as well as world’s best bartender. Basically, he knows his shit, so I thought I would test one of his recipes out.
NUKED NEGRONI RECIPE
- 1.5 cups Threefold London dry gin (bit.ly/TFD-london-dry-gin)
- 1.5 cups sweet vermouth (bit.ly/curiada-vermouth)
- 1.5 cups Campari (bit.ly/curiada-campari)
- 6 blackberries
- grapefruit peel
- rosemary sprig
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@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

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@kabel9357 10 месяцев назад

Wonder what the ABV is after cooking it?

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

@@kabel9357 the temp only reached 35 degrees and it was a sealed container so there would have been no loss.

@kozhevnikov 10 месяцев назад

If you ever repeat the experiment, try sticking normal negroni in the fridge as well. Some people, who are not big fans of this cocktail made-to-order, say that pre-made batched negronis taste better. Glen And Friends Cooking channel tried refrigerating it overnight and says it changes the favour for the better. I wonder what effect microwaving has without the refrigeration variable.

@BritInvLvr 10 месяцев назад

I always wondered why my homemade Negronis were not as good as the ones at restaurants. I use good gin. I’ll try making a batch and refrigerating it over night.

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

Cocktail ingredients don’t fully homogenise when mixed but the addition of time and/or heat can help.

@JohnReddersen 10 месяцев назад

@@BritInvLvrAlso consider going with cheap bottom shelf Gordon's Gin. There's something in Gordon's that cuts whatever flavor in Campari I'm not a huge fan of.

@coreybennett6586 10 месяцев назад

Can confirm, this works well. We’ve got Silver Lyan here in DC and the nuked Manhattan is a treat.

@tinchothegreat3743 10 месяцев назад

I would love to watch more like this. That was awesome, Steve!

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

Thanks Tincho! Any particular suggestions?

@tinchothegreat3743 10 месяцев назад

@@StevetheBartender_ not at all 😂 microwaving a cocktail had never crossed my mind. Hahaha

@therustybartender 10 месяцев назад

Ok this is on my list to try!! Cheers Steve!

@theaussiebartender 10 месяцев назад

BRO!!! 🤯🤯 This just made my head spin! What a way to rapid infuse some batch cocktails 😍 Definitely gonna experiment with this!! 👌🏼👌🏼 Great episode dude 🤘🏼

@TheTribalBarGuy 9 месяцев назад

WOW that was an unexpected approach. I am not sure microwave would ever come to my mind when thinking of drinks, but it's great you have this "Open-minded approach". Really liked this video and maybe I will give this a try, as feeling very curious now. Cheers!

@donniewahlberg8546 10 месяцев назад

Very cool and very different! Thanks

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

Thank you! Cheers!

@ScottWaa 10 месяцев назад

It has been a while since I've caught a video, but it is looking very crisp. New camera/lens? Either way, great video!

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

Thanks Scott! A new rim light and this was rendered in 50fps instead of 25fps 😃

@SilentJukebox 10 месяцев назад

Perfect timing! I've just finished a raspberry negroni, so I'll give this one a go! Thanks! ⭐️

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts!

@SilentJukebox 10 месяцев назад

@@StevetheBartender_ It's chilling in the freezer as we speak. I didn't add any fruit, just rosemary, and I didn't do a big batch so I'm not sure how it'll compare to your recipe. However, I do know my negronis so I'll feed back when I know more! 🤔😃

@SilentJukebox 10 месяцев назад

@@StevetheBartender_ It's pretty smooth and well rounded compared to a standard Negroni, but I put WAY too much rosemary in mine. It's drinkable but I'll need to pay more attention next time when scaling down. 😂 It got me thinking about how an infused rosemary gin would work, and also reminded me of the Gypsy Cocktail. You may have already covered it, but could be worth a look. Rosemary, raisins and gin - really rich and herbal. I've enjoyed your channel for a few years now, so thank you and best wishes! 🍸🥃

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

@@SilentJukebox lol, I used 1 sprig for 1 litre.. how much did you use?

@SilentJukebox 10 месяцев назад

@@StevetheBartender_ Hahaha, I'm too embarrassed to say. Maybe half a sprig for two drinks... 😐😂 It's all part of the learning curve. 😂🙋🏻‍♂️

@drinkswithdave 10 месяцев назад

Best part was learning something new,. Second best part was "this guy knows his shit" - Awesome. I would have NEVER thought of doing this for rapid infusion. I enjoyed the change of pace and vibe, nice work Steve!

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

Likewise, I would never contemplate putting a cocktail into the microwave but glad I did.

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

I didn’t intentionally change the pace… so you mean that it was slower?

@drinkswithdave 10 месяцев назад

@@StevetheBartender_ Pace was probably the wrong choice of words. The pace was on par with your usual pace. It was really good, the vibe of "let's experiment" was what I meant. I was pretty excited to see how it was gonna turn out. again, great job brother!

@Runge_was_here 10 месяцев назад

What an interesting idea and that it has a positive effect is supresing. I would never have thought of trying this. Thanks for risking your microwave. 😂

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

Haha, you're welcome! I was pleasantly surprised..

@AngryCocktails 10 месяцев назад

Pretty wild experiment. Hope you like that 1 litre batch!

@FrankWestPR 10 месяцев назад

Hello Steve : would you know or showcase a Sencha (Japanese Green tea) based cocktail ? Thx

@keithbarry29 10 месяцев назад

That IS a good way to test. You need to have a "Control" right? Nice work!!!

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

Yeah but the control should be the same... ie. negroni vs microwaved negroni.... rather than negroni vs microwaved negroni with blackberries, rosemary and grapefruit... still, it was a good experiment :)

@norwegianviking69 10 месяцев назад

I think what is going on here, is, like you say, a rapid infusion. I have not tried it yet, but this video inspired me to mix a a bunch of Negronis, leave it in the fridge, and test them after 1 day, 2 days, 3 days, etc. My guess is that you would get a similar result, but maybe fresher than something that has been in the micro.

@shantanubasrur 10 месяцев назад

It'd be amazing if you could document this somewhere! Y'know, in the name of science ;)

@johnnykhayek5932 10 месяцев назад

What are the brands of the 2 glassware you used please?

@pikaloff 10 месяцев назад

A very unusual recipe you need to try to make

@SarawakPollster 10 месяцев назад

any idea about the temp and times for a sous vide version of the nuked negroni?

@gnomestavern8285 10 месяцев назад

I really like the idea of grapefruit and blackberries in a negroni. I heard of hot toddy microwaved in a pinch. i wonder if a cocktail like a gunshot fizz that uses a bunch of muddle fruit would be good in the microwave

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

Best to use for cocktails that you would typical age i.e. spirit-forward drinks, rather than bright and/or citrusy drinks.

@gnomestavern8285 10 месяцев назад

@@StevetheBartender_ that definitely makes sense

@Kamamura2 10 месяцев назад

I suspect that the "takes away the sharpness" just means lower alcohol content - because some of it was evaporated by the microwaves. The same trick is used by the "velvety smooth rum" - high sugar content plus lower than declared alcohol content - it's cheaper to make too.

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

The liquid only increased in temperature to 35 degrees though. And if there were any vapours it would have re-condensed back into the container as it was sealed.

@bob___ 10 месяцев назад

I'm sure I'm going to try this technique

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

It’s worth trying.. Ryan Chetiyawardana also does a Microwave Manhattan and a Vieux Carre.

@angy102 10 месяцев назад

35 degrees is damn near freezing... *googles Celsius to Fahrenheit* Ahh makes sense now Had to convert from koalas to bald eagles

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

😂😂😂

@NightSkyJeff 10 месяцев назад

How about blending the Negroni (in a Ninja or Vitamix) for a few minutes to aerate and heat it, and then add the infusion ingredients before chilling it?

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

Worth experimenting with - let me know if you try it 👍

@UnclePete 10 месяцев назад

Seems like you could get the same effect in the sous vide? Fun experiment!

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

Yep! 100%. The main thing is only few people have a sous vide at home :)

@UnclePete 10 месяцев назад

@@StevetheBartender_ Yes but I have one, thats the important thing ;)

@andyliebermann5244 10 месяцев назад

Not a huge fan of Negronis, too bitter for my baby palette. May give this a try. Will definitely try it for a boulevardier though. Thanks

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

It rounded off the edges and made it a touch fruitier… the blackberries would work well with whiskey I think!

@stephane.foisy.186 10 месяцев назад

Now there needs to be a show down. Freezer negroni vs nuked negronis (same spec).

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

Showdown time!

@TheProhibitionKitchen 10 месяцев назад

I thought FOR SURE that this was going to be one of those "Home Bartender Mistakes"

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

There was no way I would have tried it if the recipe came from anyone else 😂

@blakedesmond 10 месяцев назад

Couldn’t understand the first ingredient. Had to read the description.

@f00dify 10 месяцев назад

You know what you could do with these side by side videos I’d do them blind so make the drink step away and let Kat switch them around while keeping note of which variation is which because I feel like knowing which drink is which can have an impact on tasting differences.

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

Absolutely, I should incorporate blind tasting!

@carl_busch 10 месяцев назад

What will they think of next. LOL

@BritInvLvr 10 месяцев назад

Would nuking a drink diminish the alcohol content?

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

I'd say most likely no... unless you heated it a lot more. 1 litre of liquid microwaved for 3 minutes only reached 35 degrees,so way off the temperature required to evaporate ethanol... but it's quite possible that trace amounts could have evaporated. In saying that though, I used a closed container so any vapour would have re-condensed.

@hameedhn3 10 месяцев назад

I need to be a bartender

@n.s.6070 10 месяцев назад

Hey Steve. Does the drink actually needs the microwaves or can it be done in a saucepan as well?

@hameedhn3 10 месяцев назад

Hi brother

@oross007 10 месяцев назад

Do you make your own ice cubes

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

I'm fortunate to have a Hoshizaki ice machine.

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

Alternatively, you can use Tovolo moulds as they are the perfect size for making drinks: amzn.to/3QGak15

@Johncycl 10 месяцев назад

Wouldn’t Sous Vide get the same thing done, maybe better?

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

Yes, it would.. but not everyone has a sous vide.

@DougTooley 10 месяцев назад

Sorry to criticise, but that was a terrible experiment, Steve! If you're going to compare microwaved vs. not, then at least make the same drink. What matters here are two very different things which I think need to be tested separately: 1) is the drink tasty? 2) did the microwaving have any affect? And really, since we're comparing taste, I'd also ensure they're the same temperature too. Without controlling those variables, you might as well be comparing it to a Manhattan. ;-)

@StevetheBartender_ 10 месяцев назад

I wasn’t really comparing microwave vs not.. It was classic vs nuked Negroni 👍 The temps were the same. They were both pre chilled in the fridge and stirred for the same time, although I didn’t mention it in the video.

@DougTooley 10 месяцев назад

I'm glad the temps were the same - As I've been learning about cocktails, I've been impressed by how much of a difference that makes. You know, I was probably misinterpreting because I was *expecting* the video to be about comparing microwaved vs. not. In my mind, the microwaving is a weird gimmick, which could easily be replaced by warming on the stove, which is the more common way infusions are done. I run into the issue where my wife (and most-frequent share-er of my cocktails) is NOT a fan of Campari, so I don't get to use it as often as I would otherwise.