Many people were upset there wasn’t some long drawn out duel, but there was already more than enough of those scenes throughout the film. This was much more powerful. Pai Mei hated American women, but after all her painful training, he saw something in her and chose to show her the technique. He didn’t do that with Bill. Bill inadvertently brought about his own demise by introducing Beatrix and Pai Mei. And I still think Bill would’ve been hard to defeat, even at his age.
Pai Mei taught Beatrix the technique cos he understood she was worthy of himself. Why she didn't tell that to Bill is probably cos she knew it would crush him and make him feel inferior. Before the final scene we get to see the real Bill who is a ruthless warrior, but also a man living in the world of comic books and vintage samurai movies etc, who never really grew up and learned to truly take responsibility due to his criminal upbringing. He would shoot the love of his life in the head and in the process quite probably murder his own unborn child without blinking. When he's confronted about it he almos shrugs it off, saying "I overreacted." It's like she always knew, although they were lovers, that he could not take bad news.
@@dumbidea1007 Literally, this movie had the least amount of sword fighting than the first one. Brother shot her with a gun, she did kung fu with no sword from pai mei, etc.
Exactly. She knew he didn’t handle bad news well. That’s why she didn’t just break up with him openly and/or tell him she was pregnant. How would that have gone, anyway? Would he have wanted to raise the child together? Or would he go for sole custody? Or just take the kid out of the country without permission?
What I really liked about this scene was that it wasn't just a "final showdown" type of scene we always see in movies, but provided emotions and a somewhat realistic situation involving two people that once loved each other.
Comment is over a decade old but you were the first to say exactly what I was thinking. Most revenge stories lack that duality. I’m trying to think of plots where the protagonist respected (even loved) the villain and… seems like a very overlooked plot point. Sephiroth comes to mind because we all respected him before he became an Armageddon machine but… by the end he was just another mindless threat to the planet… so idk that one is tough.
Yest the five points exploding heart technique is one the most realistic moves we have in the martial arts. Once performed by Donkey Kong on Bruce Lee in their Epic battle of Hong Kong.
@@hurmur9528 Did you see Sugar Shane Mosley get his peroneal nerve hit with just a toe and couldn’t stand after? I’m not saying an exploding palm technique is valid… I am saying that to shut down a top level athlete with the touch of a toe is pretty crazy. I also knew a Marine I was sparring with and he hit the nerve in my neck and I had to fight to keep my body together… I bounced back and kept fighting but pressure points are very real
@@ccshumshum8104 your comment that there is no such thing as “dignified death” makes sense to me. I always thought human dignity only last through human life. Without human life there is no human dignity. There is no dignity in taking human life; How could there be. I found this quote interesting: “The general concept of dignity is introduced and characterized as a position on a value scale and it is further specified through its relations to the notions of right, respect and self-respect. I present four kinds of dignity and spell out their differences: the dignity of merit, the dignity of moral or existential stature, the dignity of identity and the universal human dignity (Menschenwürde). Menschenwürde pertains to all human beings to the same extent and cannot be lost as long as the persons exist. The dignity of merit depends on social rank and position. There are many species of this kind of dignity and it is very unevenly distributed among human beings. The dignity of merit exists in degrees and it can come and go. The dignity of moral stature is the result of the moral deeds of the subject; likewise it can be reduced or lost through his or her immoral deeds. This kind of dignity is tied to the idea of a dignified character and of dignity as a virtue. The dignity of moral stature is a dignity of degree and it is also unevenly distributed. The dignity of identity is tied to the integrity of the subject's body and mind, and in many instances, although not always, also dependent on the subject's self-image. This dignity can come and go as a result of the deeds of fellow human beings and also as a result of changes in the subject's body and mind.” ~ Nordenfelt L. The varieties of dignity.
@@benevolencia4203Dignity falls under the spectrum of sociological constructs. If you really want to boil it down, anything any person or culture expresses from an internal perception, is just that, an expression, not an actual substance. If that type of system is picked up by the surrounding others in order for it to become normalised is always interesting to see if it happens. If it becomes popular persistently, it becomes the norm and the norm becomes expectation, and when that happens, it becomes, over a long time, considered just part of being (enter whatever human sociological constructs or culture here). Perspective, belief, and Humanity is a trip.
@@luphone2781 Yes. Our whole existence, or at least our perception of it; is built upon symbols and social constructs. Your version of reality is different than my version of reality as perceived within our singular individual selves. Even our left and right eyes don’t see a reality the same way. Life is a trip, the universe is a mindfuck. Especially fun when we don’t maim, kill, or eat each other. Right on; what you said. 🕊
Tarantino originally in his script wanted an epic battle similar to Beetrix vs Oren but they decided on this. Probably because he still wanted to show that there was this hint of love and reason for their grudge. She killed him but it's obvious that she still loved him, same with with Bill loving her.
More than that really. It's stupid, or at least it should be. Any other writer/filmmaker couldn't do this without it coming off as trash. five finger death punch technique? Nonsense and stupid. Yet, it works when he does it. Great actors help. But Tarantino knows how to spin anything.
@@michaelmeadows4883 did you see the rest of the movie(s)? it's not meant to be realistic in any sense, people are flying across the scene and doing impossible acrobatics. it's an homage to kung fu movies of the past, and they were in no shape or form realistic.
This is one of my favorite movie scenes of all time. The acting, the dialogue, the way that Bill and Beatrix don't have to tell each other how much they love each other because you can see it on their faces....it's all perfect. Thanks so much for uploading this.
RIP David. I don't know what drove you to do what you dead, but I will miss you nonetheless. You were certainly one of the greatest on the screen. May the angels send thee to thy rest.
The thing that blew my mind a few years ago whilst watching these films (for about the hundredth time or so) was the sudden realization that, with the exception of B.B., there are no “good guys” in this story. Oh sure, there’s a protagonist and a series of antagonists, but none of them are good people. They’re all killers. Even Beatrix, although she is the protagonist and could be considered justified, and even a bit righteous, is a killer. And the entire story is her killing her way through the rest of her former comrades to get to Bill.
I also like how the movies allude to the code they all follow as murdering assassins: like, yeah you totally deserve revenge for the horrible things I did to you, but it’s not going to be free, you have to fight me for it. Seen here with Bill, earlier with Bud, and with Vernita’s daughter.
I think that's also what inflates Bea's ego. She knew Bill could absolutely react how he did, but she believed she was the special exception as his lover. Why should she? In the end she's still the renegade killer bee; a new husband and a dead-end job would just be pretend escapism. The only true love in the story is between parents and a child. Vernita also tried to escape and build a life. She loved her own daughter, but it wasn't enough to escape her past that eventually claimed her. I think that's why they showed her death first and her appeal for mercy. She wouldn't get any mercy, and neither would Bea get any from Bill. So they might as well accept their identities and finish their story as the killers they are, and only one will be left standing.
Tarantino needs to get going on the sequel with the kids. That would really cement it. He said he was waiting for the child actresses to grow up, they're in their late 20s now.
When being trained by Pai Mei, after trying to cheap shot him, he claims Beatrix's right arm as his. That same arm plucked out his murderer's only eye and killed bill.
In the end, Bill gets to experience the power of the "5 Point Palm Exploding Heart" technique. He's in awe, not only of Beatrix having mastered it, but of what it feels like. He slowly takes the 5 steps that lead him to his death, testing if the legends are true.
Bill after he asked her why she never told him that Pai Mei taught her the "exploding heart technique" I always felt like when Beatrix says to him " Because I am a bad person" that it was in some way a expression of remorse for how she broke his heart. Like she never meant to do that with her action of leaving him and the buisness. Bill also mentions he regrets what he did by shooting her in the head. "Overreaction". Clearly so much love between these two who would become mortal enemies, but still lovers till the end. Bill and Beatrix relationship was a tragedy of Shakespearean proportion, Tarantino is a absolute genius here.
I always assumed the reason Pai Mei taught Beatrix the 5 Point Exploding Heart Technique because out of all his students, he hated Bill the most for probably bringing him students like Beatrix and Elle Driver and I'm assuming all the other Deadly Viper Assassination Squad members. And he probably knows that Beatrix is in a relationship with Bill and know that he isn't a good man, knowing that he will betray her someday. And what better way to get revenge to Bill then teaching his lover the move that she will use to kill him in the future. That's what I think.
Bill didnt die by the sword. He literally died by Beatrix's hand. So much meta and detail throughout the entire duology its incredible. Thank you, Mr. Tarantino.
Subtle detail that may or may not have been intentional: he moves the bottle of booze behind the katana to make sure the path is clear for the first swing after putting it in the "wrong" spot initially.
Where this scene is unique, is the fact that Bill is already dead and they continue talking. It's like "it's done, nothing to do about it now" and they realize that despite all, they still care for one another. Quentin (again) kills with the dialogue. Simply the best dialogue writer out there BY FAR. I mean, Kill Bill and Inglorious Basterds... don't get much better dialogue than that!
Now THIS, this is the pure definition of a good movie, really entertaining all the way through and leaves you with a feeling of satisfaction in the end. This movie proves that HD and 3D is unnecessary.
A little yes but sparing her from much worse. Going more in depth, Bill is the snake charmer. He manipulates, particularly women, to his ends. From what little we see, he indoctrinates his daughter with toy guns and shooting people and uses her killing of her fish as a lesson on life and death vs chastising her for killing a helpless pet. Beatrix and Bill's final conversation highlights how wrong she was about him and what he was capable of. There was no redemption for him and her daughter was in danger of a terrible life of violence so long as he lived. Beatrix ultimately killed an abuser who would have turned their daughter into a weapon.
as much as i love this scene, it upsets me that bill doesnt look back at her when he takes his last step, i think that would have made this already perfect ending just that bit more magical
He's "ready". There is no looking back & what need be said was said. Looking back imo would have detracted. Yes, I am responding to an 11 year old comment. Hi fella! Hope it's been a good decade + for you!
People think the final fight has to be with swords, the final fight was the whole time after Beatrice showed up. The quick sword fight was just icing on the cake
To this day I wonder Was Bill holding back and giving himself a handicap the entire night by drinking heavily or was Beatrix lucky? Cause in this short fight, Bill disarmed her quite easily and almost killed her without even getting up from the chair.
3:27 and on ...Rage to scared to heartbroken to at peace and then warrior mom again... with what needed to happen. This was perfect. And to see David Carradine in this role was glorious. The entire cast was great, but c'mon... it's QT's craft.[edited - 16 years... I stopped doing personal math after about 26 years old so... damn]
Honestly, i wonder if he intended to give an easy, quick death to who he thought killed her during those 3 months of mourning or if he had planned some brutal torturous death
The gesture and body language and expression is so great in this scene. The look of murderous rage on the bride face. But when the move was executed. The rage is gone. She show a look of regret instead. And after the bridge said "You look ready" And take her hand back. Bill finger response as if he want to take her hand once again. But he didn't...because he aware he didn't deserve that.
hell yes. amazing. one of my favorite scenes ever ;) i actually liked this movie better than the first one. although i hate bill being dead, he was my favorite character and david one of my favorite actors :D rip david carradine
"You overreacted??!!" I love that line and what I love even more about it is that her reaction to what he said was so delayed. For someone who has the speed of light in her reflexes when she's fighting, it took her a moment to actually absorb what he was saying and respond with "ummm, are you kidding?"!! hahah
It’s impressive that part 2’s ending manages to explain Bill’s twisted logic. He mentions feeling betrayed that Bea tried to live a normal life, despite him being the one who tried to kill her. But in the world of assassins, where death is normal and nobody leaves alive, Bill trying to revenge-kill Bea for “turning her back on him” is weirdly justified. Or at least considered excusable. Part of it is his own rationalizations, but I think it’s why everyone (including Bea in a way) seems to understand. But it’s also why Budd gives her a flashlight as a small gesture of mercy when burying her, likely aware that there’s a very slim chance she’ll somehow make it out. Because in their world his brother deserves retaliation, but Bea also deserves a chance to live and have her own revenge.
Between all the main villain deaths across the movies, it dawns on me that these people live violent, passionate lives together, and are complete strangers to each other. Vernita apparently grossed out by the whole wedding ordeal backs out of that life entirely, which is odd for an assassin. O-ren severely underestimates Beatrix, and apologizes for insulting her after Beatrix finally gets an attack in. Budd doesn't even consider that Elle might be out to kill him out of spite. Although Bills reaction to his brothers death is never stated, I wonder how much he believes Elles explanation, that Beatrix killed Budd with a black mamba. And then theres Bill who, despite knowing Beatrix so intimately, was never let in on the most privileged secret in all of martial arts, taught by his unwilling master, to his lover. And lets not forget Beatrix who puts it best herself; "I never thought you would or could do that to me." As much as they might all love each other, they have no clue. They just dont know each other at all.
Bill's death being caused by something *so* underwhelming and undramatic is what makes it so fucking memorable. Here's Beatrix, after going on a brutal and ostentatious globe-spanning revenge tour murdering countless numbers of people, *finally* facing the titular Bill, the architect of her pain and misery, giving him a quick, painless death after about 15 seconds of them crossing swords/fighting. And once Bill knows she won, they talk like equals. This whole scene is just pure Tarantino, outside of the obvious Kung Fu influences usually present in his movies...David Carradine notwithstanding. All that said, the shot of Bill's corpse being David Carradine's on-screen credit moment is so darkly hilarious, only QT could've imagined it.
What she did was *rupture his Aorta.* There is a “magical” component to many schools of martial arts teaching. Sometimes they start early, such as “making yourself light, or heavy” (what I was taught) - though it can go much, much further, as it did with Norman F.
@@gentleheart7107 Now that I'm thinking about it: mom probably hadn't told her she busted her father with the heart technique. She probably told her that now daddy is asleep and one day they meet again. Or something. The kid is going to be like the most troubled Terantino character ever, And one day they meet up with the troubled Vernita Green's kid and make a super-troubled team
Did she ever before this scene witness this technique at work? That's really what I'm curious about 😂 Imagine her doing the move and it was just some fake magic bs - but they both believe that it works, so Bill walks the 5 steps and then just bursts out laughing.
Bill’s face somehow was that of a man who was resigned to his fate.. He somehow knew only one of them is going to see the sunrise tomorrow and deep down he almost certainly knew Beatrix. He just didn’t want to go down without a fight and letting B know that he still loves her despite all the despicable things he did to her. Tragic n Powerful ending for both Beatrix n Bill
