I played 20 hours of Ruthless and THIS is what I think 

It looks much better then events like deli. Ruthless is slow and chill - good stuff for the end of the league.

Will definitely league start ruthless in FS.

hell yeah i will about 2 months into Forbidden sanctum

This will be a game mode I'll go back to after I'm bored of the temp league. It looks like a lot of fun and I like the long term grind.

Try out later on forbidden? I’m probably going to league start on it

Damn you really should start using movement skills at least.

i said the same thing to myself when i saw his currency stash in ruthless. I only play HCSSF Standard and can't seem to accumulate enough of anything. I might just be bad at crafting/wasting resources, but I also don't understand how people build their wealth in this game.

I watched Alkaizerx play through on spec helix champ, and he just blasted through the campaign. He was killing act bosses on 2-link spectral helix with some random blue 2H axe like 15% slower than I do on twinked out characters.

@@1TotalJabroni doesnt surprise me too much. Usually when i optimize gear and build on campaign a bit i start to snowball into so much damage that from Act4 to Act9 i basically 1 shot everything and kill bosses in 3-4 seconds. ( And that is in SSF with minimal crafting involved) I am pretty sure if i did take 60% of my damage off at that point i would still be able to play okayish

@@1TotalJabroni there is a very good reason for it. he does the axe vendor recepie for physical dmg which scales and carries your dmg perfectly through the campaign. the recepie is a 2 handed white axe or blue axe, yellow rustic and a blacksmith's wetstone. wood splitter at lvl 13, double axe at lvl 23, shadow axe at lvl 33, timber axe at 41, labrys at 49 and karui chopper at 58. hope this helps

You should try it with hardcore it gets pretty tense

How did it go? I'm thinking of playing it next league

No way POE is easier than D3. Even the campaign alone, D3 is without question easier. You can get into greater rift 50+ in d3 and literally not do anything but compare one singular number on items. I remember I used to play D3 all the time when I was an alcholic because it was the only game I had that you could literally be blackout drunk and still do end game content.

haha this is like WoW Classic for PoE. Being able to buy skill gems did made the game easier though

I do.

@@jakerabjohns9055 not anymore, amirite?

They won't do it because then no one will play the normal game

@@TheEternalVortex42 I wouldn't say that's the case. There are plenty of people who would still play the normal game. But yes it would be a large chunk of the playerbase. But isn't that a sign in that case? That maybe they're doing something wrong if they're afraid of too many people playing it.

@@TheCosmicAstro- I don't think you understand how difficulty works and affects the players. Take Dark Souls for example. It's a "hard" game, it doesn't have difficulty options. If it did, it wouldn't be so loved and well known. If it had an easy option, most people would choose that when they reach a hard part of the game, beat it easily and continue like that through the rest of the game -> Dark Souls would just be another fantasy game, that's it. If there would be an easy mode, most people would choose that, play the game through once and that's it. To make it difficult (which I don't think PoE even is), people are forced out of their comfort zone and hence appreciate it more when they finally reach their goal. PoE is not doing anything wrong regarding the difficulty, the extremely high playerbase is a proof of that. If it had an easy-mode, it wouldn't be regarded as one of the best ARPG's out there. Options are great to have indeed, but lowering the difficulty is usually a bad move.

@@Koitsuba PoE is not dark souls. You cannot even remotely compare them even in the sense of "hard game" because that is not the selling point of PoE at all.. Alongside they literally added "hard mode" which entirely goes against your "hard game" false parallel. Nice try though. Allow people to enjoy the game how they want rather than gate keeping. The games selling points are its complexity(to a degree) and the sheer amount of options you have to play with skills in different ways. It is literally power fantasy to the highest degree. That's the whole point. Allowing people to actually reach that power fantasy if they so choose with an easier mode is up to them. If they want it to be harder? Also up to them. Thats the point of OPTIONS

@@TheCosmicAstro- Then why shouldn't they introduce a God-mode option as well..? One where you simply cannot die and you do +5000 % more damage? Because giving options that are simply bad is not something game developers want to do and it's not something that is good for the game, even if the majority would pick that option. Because trust me, most people WOULD take the God-mode option to feel that power fantasy of annihilating everything in a second. Not to mention the ones who want the achievements. Or the seasonal rewards. For those rewards alone it's kinda stupid to have an easy-mode for Path of Exile. And some would even argue that the softcore IS the easy-option for Path of Exile.

i mean loot is an obvious problem. the filter hides it a bit but it is at a point it is hard on servers. i think they wanna fix rare mobs before they touch loot again and then adress crafting after that. ruthless is just nice to see things from a different angle, you are really happy about tiny things related to loot. if you could remove peoples expectations, less loot would be better but that genie is out of the bottle. same problem with mobs. they went crazy to keep up with movement skills. people just running to fast to get hit. that forced a horrible loop of increase mobs density, give mobs shitty mechanics on one side and people dashing all over the place on the other side. it at the point now that everything is designed about a player dashing nonstop or you die. i could keep going but thats probably the point of ruthless, to get a better perspective how all the problems are connected in a bare bones mode.

Except I don't think they rebalanced the mobs back to that level. If they did. this would be a pretty cool mode

@@Xqvvzts it's true the mobs aren't at their old power level, but that's fine because it still has the same feeling when you factor everything else. The same monsters I had to worry about back then are the same ones I worry about now. Although Perpetus isn't the run ender he used to be =P

As I understand Ruthless is not bound to the league, so you dont lose everything at end of the league.

Yeah it's not a league thing. These characters stay like standard

@@asgasdg09a8sd So are there current league mechanics in there? Or just legacy?

@@j.d.6915 I'm not sure which mechanics are in there. Guessing the lakes aren't but some other things are. I saw essence, alva. I'm not a part of the alpha but that's my understanding. That characters will stay on and it's not a league

@@j.d.6915 most of the league mechanics exist but are much less rewarding. If it's like standard then at the end of the league anything that stays permanent gets patched into standard

This. I was thinking the same thing watching him snail his way across Wraeclast.

I mean thats just cope though cause u can say that now but will u be saying that after u start doing maps and have to fight endgame bosses. (no because u are going be doing blank white maps for a month and farm blood aquaducts everytime u run out of maps)

@@Siegram999 the time ive enjoyed poe the most was in beta 2012-2013. back then you had to exalt maps to (maybe) sustain them.

Seetheing so hard fam. GGG has 103 empployees currently so 2 devs isn't a massive loss. If you don't want to go through league start just play standard.

@@eamoncarroll7708 I did play standard this past league idk if you have done that but not only are prices 10x league cause people who have had time to make excessive currency in past leagues combined with very few people trading, but what currency I did have wasn't divines so I was stuck playing the exact builds I'm complaining about

Seethe harder

I believe vaal side areas are disabled in ruthless.

Nah, same game, just lower droprates. Performance should be same

@@TheDankFarmer because most people crying for ruthless insist its ""harder"" lmao. Call it what it is. More mindless grind.

​@@TheDankFarmer Uh, perhaps you might not realize but the whole point of Ruthless is to be harder...? That's basically what all this is about... Might want to recheck and think things again before saying that Ruthless isn't suppose to be harder but slower. Slow doesn't mean it's hard. Ruthless is suppose to be the "hard mode" that the few and CW has been all about. Did you feel I was gaslighting you when all I'm doing is pointing out obvious stuff? Stuff that you probably don't even realize before and now gets you thinking that you might not like or prefer Ruthless after all? And something is cringe only because you feel like it and it somehow disturbs you. And if you think what I wrote above is an essay, oh boy. I don't know what to say except go read an essay. I just space it out more because it would obviously makes it much more easier to read.

That's actually pretty darn long by Ziz's standard, so yes. It does take a long time ;)

I mean there are clearly levels of nuance here. Ruthless, as Ziz said, is not PoE. But let's say hypothetically, PoE becomes way faster than it is now and people can get mirror tier gear extremely easily (an absurd scenario, I know), then I can totally see justification for wanting to tune up the difficulty in the main game. Saying "Oh just play Ruthless" misses the point. We can apply the same reasoning to how the game is now from the hypothetical scenario.

Ruthless is not poe. If they made a league where you have 1 hp and cannot raise it it would be even deadlier, but guess what, nobody is going to play that. People want difficulty, not length. You can have fun in normal poe as do thousands of others, just spend more time thinking and less saying dumb stuff

@@Luca48882 In that case why people play SSF? The game is clearly balanced around trade. Why people play hardcore? The game is not designed to not contain oneshot mechanics. Maybe you'd know that if you spent more time thinking and less saying dumb stuff

@@Yomush People play SSF because they either have too much time on their hands like streamers or fall in the same logic mistake as you did in the original comment. SSF is not a harder mode, it's harder by being longer which is bad design. People who play HC want an actual challenge, and in fact HC actually makes the game harder but many peope like me have hardware issues, and while HC is more honest if you lose a character you still get dozens of hours wiped, and many people want the difficulty but can't afford that. Just imagine giving 1 life to any game, literally any, and you'll understand it's not so appealing. So while HC CAN technically make you waste more time than SSF in HC it's on you, in SSF it's completely out of your agency other than a couple target farming ways. Playing HC also allows more builds, SSF you HAVE to start with a non-reliant build otherwise you risk gimpig your progress. Have you been around with old DD, reflect and volatile? You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. There are a lot of abilities that are intended to oneshot, even from normal mobs (the bone thingy that killed Quinn in the lake, any mob with a jumping attack like rhoas, shield charge or leap slam, just check their modifiers if juiced just a bit). Whether something is in line with the design or not it's for the devs to decide, I just made an example of how difficult doesn't necessarily equal difficult, which was literally your main point I'll also edit, don't know why balanced around matters, if there's a mode you play it, doesn't matter if the devs care about it or not. It's you who wants to forcefully send others to other modes, not me. I'm just underlining the logic issues with that. If you want to copy an edgy reply make sure you're not actually embarrassing yourself. You simply cannot have fun if you do not understand what's going on in the game you play. I'll also edit a second time since I didn't read the double negation in the HC part. Still, don't know what that's up to. What does the point of being contrary to the design or actual balance/state of the game have to do with the game mode? It's not like I'm saying don't play Ruthless because poe is made to drop stuff, It would be something like don't play ruthless because you can't craft/experiment, which are the basics and main selling points of poe, and that would be very logical, while not dying to oneshots or always being able to find certain items are not the main selling points. And even then, I didn't use that argument, you just randomly introduced it

@@Luca48882 Thanks for the paragraph. Maybe i'll read it later

@@marcinchreptowicz6843 it would be if they stopped removing stuff from Standard xD still remember how much i lost after the Herald stacking days xD

@@TheDankFarmer Ah so because it is "free" therefore it is immune to criticism? That you don't agree with me is fine. But as someone who have played for 8000 hours and payed about 4000$ i just want to give my opinion.

@@divinityai It that all you guys can talk about? Reddit? Who give a fuck about reddit? can't even remember when i last visited that site

@@divinityai I mean by all means. Let GGG keep going in their direction. I just want this game to be fun and good. There is a reason why Kalandra is seen as one of if not the worst league ever.

@@divinityai Hope so as well. Not my cup of tea :) But if people enjoy it then that is good.

yes groupe seems pretty broken since u still need only 1 map for 6 people hope they balance around solo play and u can still get t16 as solo player not only groupe

Yes, the alpha was basically tested on 3.19 patch. So none of the 3.2 changes are a part of that alpha

Finally. Perfect streamer mode

They literally said it doesn't drop

@@toukoenriaze9870 oh, they did? Darn

It's a side project but it's still PoE. Streamer playing this mode is still advertising PoE and is not playing other game instead of PoE.