I am disappointed with your Cerberus +1 ranking. I have kept up a 1.5 kd w/ it and got 10 flawlesses with it. I can out duel SMGs and Sidearms with it while aiming at the head. Cerberus +1 deserves better...
Solid content as always but the only thing I'll say is Bad Juju is a lightweight frame not rapid fire. Honestly a slight zoom buff and switching it to a rapid fire you might see the thing alot more in pvp. Also I'm still mad when they did the full auto toggle and gave all the other exotics that had full auto baked in new perks Bad Juju got NOTHING. This is one of the OG exotics and it's built to be a workhorse but people simply don't remember it exists because most people don't care for the optimal ttk of lightweights and every other lightweight has someone over Bad Juju. I don't even know what they'd have to give it to bring it up perk wise.
4:34 You forgot the biggest reason to use 4th horseman. When you kill someone with 4th horseman, their's a 90% chance that they'll go, "WHO USES FOURTH HORSEMAN (Checks your guardian)...WHY DO YOU HAVE 5 THOUSAND PVP KILLS WITH 4TH HORSEMAN WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!!??" The answer is yes I did use the wrong there's earlier and you're still mad about it. Use 4th horseman more
So glad someone noticed how good cryosthesia 77k is now. Not just in PVP but PvE too. It got buffs to cause the stasis shot can be held indefinitely, the stasis shot now hits in a large bubble, slowing guardians if in the bubble or straight freezing on direct hit. This gives it utility to use it on groups as you can freeze the one guy and give big slowdown to everyone around him also. Paired up with duskfield and you just froze an entire group in seconds. Also you don't lose your entire magazine after shooting your stasis shot, so you can still shoot them with the sidearm even after being frozen. You can pair this with the stasis fragment that increases damage on frozen targets and now you shred them too.
It's so much better after it got buffed. I used it nonstop the season it came out in my stasis build. It can freeze immune targets in pve too, like the praetorians in vault of glass. Incredibly fun gun and I'm glad people are coming around on it
Just to let you know Nomad, that headshot damage number for Wish-Ender was incorrect. It does 160 damage. It’s 129 damage for the entrance and 31 damage for the exit to total 160.
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Bit of a correction on wavesplitter, you don’t have to pick up an orb, then reload for the perk. Picking up an orb activates the perk and automatically reloads it
Hello Ascendant Nomad, chronic Ostio Striga Crucible enjoyer here. Something else to note about the gun: Necrotic Grips is transformative for the weapon, it does a number of things that make it a menace that's only going to be more menacing with Strand in Lightfall. It bumps up the AE by thirty just for slapping the gloves on which means that even if you shoot at the general direction body from the air often you'll find the shots tracking to the head and getting a precision kill. It makes it so the poison explosions chain together off one another which can be extremely useful for dealing with bunched enemies and wells, and it also combos with Toxic Overload so that if someone dies from said chained poison explosions or the poison from your melee, it will overfill your magazine to around fifty rounds of ammunition which makes it absolutely monsterous in the next firefight you engage in. Something that might be worth trying out if you haven't already.
Small correction on Symmetry: Revolution 3-taps at x2 and 2-taps at x7. x2 is I think 68 per direct hit. x3 is 103 per direct hit. Might be mistaken on the exact damage, but it definitely 3-taps on x2 and 2-taps on x7, and the beauty of it is that you don't have to use the win condition immediately. I know it doesn't 1-tap with x20 (which you need the catalyst to reach; x15 is the default cap) by itself, but I wonder if you can damage buff it to 1-tap with radiant or empowering rift or do you need something like well/bubble.
@@nitro5202 Depends on the resilience. I forget the resil threshold for 6x to 2-tap, but 7x will 2-tap all resils unless they have overshield or a regen source like healing rift or restoration.
You were certainly correct about the Fightion Lion fans to be going crazy. Been my favourite since I first picked it up. Learning how to bank shots and time the explosion was a great learning curve.
It's fun imo but still absolute garbage. Literally just feels like I'm trolling my team by using it. Slow reload & 1 round that doesn't insta even with a point blank headshot is pretty lame. Very small blast radius too.
@Zeibentaul you can reload it while the grenade is still flying out if you know how to manual reload at the right time. It's use in support/switch shotting is the true strength.
100% agree with Cryothesia. I pulled it out of my vault some towards the end of the Season with my Shadebinder and it felt downright unfair with that kit with the amount of freezes and overall lethality. It surprised the heck out of me in a very good way and I plan to use it a lot more in Lightfall.
Definitely should have explained the perks on Crimson. The health restore and COMPLETE mag refill on precision final blows are absouloutely lethal and completely clutch if you're having to go in 1v2 or 1v3
oh yeah wave splitter got somehow got a straight indirect buff in lightfall, armor mod 4.0 increased the amount of orbs generating in pvp now so I think wavesplitter should be bumped from okay to good.
Something I feel is worth mentioning in regards to Sweet Business: It's fully spun-up optimal TTK is 0.66s, but it's least-optimal TTK (bodyshot only) is 0.8s. It's disturbingly fast considering the only requirement is a little extra brrt and a thoroughly-surprised target.
Very entertaining and informative video! I'm not even much of a crucible player, but your presentation and editing kept me interested through the whole list. I have some new things to try next time I jump into sixes or IB. Cheers!
I love Le Monarque because the draw is so snappy, it just clicks into place and feels so... intuitive to use. Also it was 3rd exotic and my first weapon that I got to 1000 kills, so I have a soft spot for the thing.
I’ll have you know that Sweet Business + Actium actually DID help me go flawless It’s got a very high potential. The skill floor is just high because its demanded play style is drastically different than most weapons in D2.
@@Breakingthebane Which, in my experience, most people don't. They just sorta... Run into it. Which confuses me. Whenever I hear it, I make sure to get distance and aim where I hear it with my Vig Wing.
Sweet business is hilariously cracked. Range is near maxed out, no flinch. Actium for titans no Brainer. For warlock I use chromatic fire For hunters I use knucklehead radar. I only have 1000 kills in pvp with mine but this one would have more if it would of tracked kills from d2 launch. Sweet business is Sweet.
Excellent video. Just wanted to add something to what you said about malfeasance though. Malfeasance has the highest base AE in the game at 63, which makes it feel super good in air, even if the frame and perk aren't the best.
@@brawler5760 It was nerfed way back when, it used to give a bigger damage bonus. Same thing happened with swashbuckler and Monte Carlo (i.e. Markov Chain).
I really enjoyed Astral in this video. I kinda pop onto their socials on occasion to see what kinda crazy stuff the Glaive Skunk™ can pull off, and I'm glad to learn from this video that, as a bow enjoyer, Ticcu's is almost worth giving a try. :D
Feels very good having your favorite gun on top of the list… Cryosthesia is an absolutely hilarious gun once you get used to it, it opens so many possibilities
Hey Nomad? This video whips, the fact that the music gets more intense and rock and roll-y as the teir list climbs makes it very fun, and the clips are great too. Excellent Job
OOOOOOOH CRYO ON TOP MY BABYYYYY Highly recommend running stasis Hunter with this so you can shatterdive immediately after freezing, making anyone want to throw their controller out the window
There is one reason to use Eriana's Vow: if you love Lucky Pants on Solar Hunter. Lucky Pants' buff to a readied Kinetic or element-matched-to-subclass hand cannon's AE and accuracy is great, but it goes away if you switch weapons. If you use Eriana's Vow on Solar, it also counts with Lucky Pants, so you can actually run double hand cannon. Eriana's Vow will ready very fast and be a beefy shot to cleanup someone low or eliminate an even slightly damaged enemy. And the buff sticks around when you switch back and forth between your Kinetic hand cannon and EV. It will eventually go away and you'll be "Out of Luck" for 10 seconds, but still. Actually not bad for sixes.
Nomad, that ramp up to the Elite band gave me goosebumps. Safe to say, this is much, much better than ANY Apple product promotions, ever. Well done and best of luck!
Surprised to see Eriana's so low, I used to run a Lucky Pants hot swapping build with like a Dire Promise or some other kinetic. It was pretty fun but wouldn't have held up in higher end content, and this might have been over two years ago so no idea how it would hold up now.
@@Daytimeprophet3 yeah it only has 60 aim assist at base, but I only mentioned it cause he mentioned poor overall base stats in the video, when it's really only the aim assist that is lacking imo.
@AscendantNomad imma use it for solar 3.0 on titan since the fragments got a buff. I need to figure out what's the best exotic to pair tho. Imma use anteaus first
I really appreciate your video. It can be difficult to imagine how weapons work before actually getting them yourself, and seeing them being used before choosing one to invest in is great. Thank you for putting this together! also i love my graviton lance and no one will ever take that from me, even if it sucks in pvp :)
One of the largest pvp player bases was when eyasluna and longbow dropped but were rare. IMO the destiny community has always been materially motivated and one of the larger issues with PvP is that there is no chase outside of trials
A lot of RU-vidr have done the same video but yours is better, more detailed, serious and fun even if it last 40min I like it, worth a subscribe Another video for all exotic armor would be cool
As a Symmetry enjoyer, its placement is spot on. Oh and yes, it *IS* the sexiest weapon on this list, hands down. Still feel Bungie needs to remove the auto-fire capability and give it much more range and a little more damage in return.
I freaking love these videos you make. The editing is amazing, and you make the weapons look so easy to use. Of which makes me want to use every weapon on here lol. As once a mediocre player in PvP, your videos has helped me become a decently average player that has helped me be at least **comfortable** in PvP (even with all the anoying things that are in PvP). Thank you for you work in these videos. They're amazing.
Thank you for putting Cryo in there.. Putting in the work for that weapon in the crucible made me fall in love and just wanna get better. PVE or PVP I love that gun.
Osteo also has the advantage of mental warfare, seeing like 20 bright green, glowing death missiles coming at me just makes me panic and want to get the hell out of there.
Love this tier list. It makes a ton of sense compared to all the others. Not only can you digest it easier the explanations make perfect sense. Bravo!!!!
It was in the most recent iron banner I started using cryo for the first time since the season it was released, and I single handily had one of my best gaming sessions I’ve ever had. Got several 20/30 kill games and even 2 40+ kill games, hell I even got a we ran out of medals.( was using it with a Diamond lance, one eyed mask stasis build, I felt unstoppable)
I was happy with the place of Bad juju. Was worried it might have been in the bad category lol. Still my favourite, and I can be devastating with it. Match with a good auto or smg.
Gotta disagree on Skyburner's. It's not great, especially because 150 scouts are particularly great, but it's a 150 with 90 AA (compare to pre nerf Jade Rabbit's 80) and explosive payload. That's enough to raise it out of bad tier at least.
The electric slide warlock build + dead messenger is pretty good. While its damage isn't super op, getting a hit with an aoe can sometimes line you up for a bunch of aoe kill or give you an advantage before ending a gunfight.
Old video but I'll leave this comment here in respect to my beloved Ticuu: I pretty much find that this weapon is mostly great when hip firing to apply the debuff and with a decent group of folks and if you know where your team is at and the enemy team is at. Don't go for the full kill, get those trackers on them, if one enemy dies any enemy near them insta dies too from the explosion and that counts towards your kill score. This is basically a support weapon and works even better if you are good at aiming bows fully drawn (I'm still practicing). I made a whole room of people explode just from applying one tracker. It forces the enemy between a rock and a hard place because if they split up it's easy pickins for the whole team, if they group up again it's easy Pickins for me if they are distracted. Also you do not need to get a kill with the bow to make people explode, they will explode no matter who or what kills them.
Tip for my fellow Fighting Lion Mains. It pairs very well with Osmiomancy gloves (Warlocks get 2 coldsnap grenades) because it can one shot via shatter. Makes dealing with shotgun apes almost trivial. And because Osmiomancy refunds grenade energy on hit you can just run double bomber mods on your class item and spam rifts and grenades. I have gotten a rather large amount of hate-mail because of this.
Thank you Nomad. You are the only one to ever really put cryo in its own light. It's my favorite exotic always and forever. If you are facing shotgun ape put on that thing and a slug and let the kills rack in.
Could you rank these for Gambit/PvE? I generally suck at PvP and Gambit is very enjoyable for me since it's more of a competitive PvE with a dash of occasionally invading the other side to reek havoc and scare the other team lol
Okay ngl one exotic in I can already tell this video should’ve been labeled as a PvP exotic tier list. Arbalest may not be good in PvP anymore, but it’s still phenomenal in PvE.
Got some fun lil' armor recommendations: 1, Peacekeepers leg armor for the huckleberry for even less of a need to reload, plus the instant draw speed and ADS, not to mention the movement buff while wielding SMGs, as well as the airborne effectiveness buff. 2, Actium war rig with the sweet business for the ability to fire it for two minutes straight. great fun for cosplaying as an anti-aircraft turret.
I was really hoping that you would “rank” the Wardcliff Coil, as it is probably one of the most insane, and stupid weapons out there, and is also probably my favorite exotic, too.
Note for malfeasance, it is really funny for super denial and I wish you mentioned it has a 20 round mag and procs based on proximity. For instance I’ve had the effect proc on 3 shots when reasonably close to enemies while it’s five when farther. I think it’s based more on damage for proccing than just shots, as with damage falloff triggering it’s five shots but pre damage falloff it’s 3. This is a really weird gun if you couldn’t tell but my personal favorite.
If you're getting 3 shots to set it off, someone else may be running with it. Malf's exotic trait works with ANY slugs from the gun, doesn't have to be yours.
Sweet business is definitely being slept on, it has to be used with a very specific build though. When combined with icefall mantles and whisper of chains these two mediocre exotics become oppressive. The amount of times I’ve taken rockets to the chest, sniper headshots, full shotgun melee combos, and just to blast them with one of the highest dps in the game. It lets you rip through barricades and bubbles especially when anti barrier auto is in the game
The glaives got reworked, give them a try. Edge of concurrence is fucking nuts in the right hands the other 2 handle slower so you have to play back a bit. I think you'd really like it if you gave it a shot
3:07 There is a third reason to use erianas vow in crucible. This one is a crazy reason that I think alot of people have truly forgotten about in videogames not just destiny. Having fun. I use erianas vow with another hand cannon with lucky pants and have my hunter dressed up like cad bane. Honestly though its a pretty fun build. If my goofy ass can make it work, then some of the sweatier crucible players can make it better.
Here's a good crafting recipe for Revision Zero if you want to use it actively in pvp: Fire mode: heavy burst fire Barrel: chambered compensator Magazine: ricochet rounds Perk: Elemental capacitor (use void very important) Stock: hand-laid stock Catalyst: pressurized refit This version of Revision Zero basically gives it 100 range and 100 stability. Have fun with it!
as a striga main, i'd like to thank you for acknowledging the potential of a gun that can kill post mortem and while you're behind cover, it's not the best SMG (that's tarrabah) or the best 600 (antiope is still king), but its all around quality of being weird and unusual makes people not expect it, and therefore be surprised by it, which i have found has led me to multiple matches where i'm just destroying an entire lobby
Risk Runner is actually really decent and that's not even including the ability: Risk Runner does ALOTTA bullets at once so if you die, at least you know you hit your target a couple of times and know that your team can finish them off if nearby, plus if your enemy happens to have an arc weapon, HEY LOOK HOW MANY BULLETS I HAVE NOW!
Maaaaan i wish my crucible lobbies played like yours. I always end up against Legolas with aimbot arrows, old cod quickscope snipers, and the most "bs i choose you!" moments haha
when i got the sweet business drop on ps4 i was really excited since i always wanted the gun. it acually feels and does quite good in pve even if other weapons have more damage the steew business feels more fun to use against groups of enemies
Ruinous Effigy holds a special place in my heart for the time I landed in a PvP match with MTashed back in season of arrivals, and proceeded to dunk on him
As a sweet business main I do agree with its placement but I want to mention that by staying on the ground and focusing on headshots it can kill a lot of people very quickly.
Been using Arbalest all season and for you to say that it’s “well and truly dead” is absolutely laughable. Intrinsic anti-barrier + kinetic buff makes Arbalest absolutely cracked in this sandbox
