I Ranked EVERY Rome 2 Faction 🤔 (2021) Tier List

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I Made a total war Rome 2 Faction Tier List and Ranked all the factions in there! I will be explaining the strengths and the weakness of every faction. At the End I will be Comparing the Tier list to the Linksi and Gorm Miolneer Tier List.
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@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

Do You Guys agree with the Faction TIer List? And which Tier List you Agree the most with: Gorm, Linksi or Mine? And make sure to check their Vids of the Faction Tier List for Different Opinions!

@biblicalbasher7908 3 года назад

Your tier list is the best but suebi should be god tier

@lukekirkbride9166 3 года назад

We tested legionaries vs followers the legionaries always win also Egypt > Athens in my opinion

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

@@biblicalbasher7908 Hahah yeah you right!

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

@@lukekirkbride9166 Yeah i Agree egypte is stronger that athens but i find athens more usefull bc of the tortes

@lucadaniels7253 3 года назад

I would agree with yours! I will know check there vids out

@evanrudibaugh8772 2 года назад

Egypt is absolutely incredible. They are the only faction that can trade by sea on the east and west. The kingdoms to the south pose no threat, and the land there has gold. The variety of units for the general's body guard is just insane too. Any unit weaknesses are easily handled with mercenaries.

@suomusintti 2 года назад

It was just multiplayer but in campaign the major powers are the best

@dudeguyman96 3 месяца назад

Let's not forget immediate access to Iron.

@ehsan6829 3 года назад

Selucid is underrated in my opinion. They are very strong with a big variety of units. Very good in attacking and defending. For me at least "almost there".

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

yeah i get it! they have tortoise they have mid tiers and elites but they lack a little o good low tiers + their mid tiers (thorax are not the strongest) but yeah got the 4 syrians. its definitely a good faction! i think on the edge of almost there and decent

@ehsan6829 3 года назад

@@FightMeTotalWar yes, they are missing good low tier infantry. But they have shock cavalry, melee cavalry elephants, chariots, tortoise, pikes, syrian archers, hoplites, swords.... They are ready for each situation. But I think, every player has his own ranking and maybe this makes that game so great. I liked to see your ranking, thanks for that.

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

Np Ehsan! you right that makes the game so nice!

@VL1975 2 года назад

Strangely Seleucid aren't period accurate in this game.

@tulsipriyasharma3864 2 года назад

Same

@mitchellgiles6869 2 года назад

I think you're underselling the importance of having melee-capable ranged units. It's not often, but I have turned the tide of major battles by having my ammoless archers charge into the fray. I mean, imagine if when your archers were done they turned into melee infantry? Also in my experience playing with the smallest unit sizes on my laptop sometimes just a few of the enemy cavalrymen can manage to push their way through my line past the rest of their unit and melee capable archers can make the difference between your archers stopping for just a few seconds or your archers stopping long enough for the entire enemy infantry force to arrive at the front unscathed

@acarrot589 Год назад

Siege and open field battles make civs behave very differently. Maybe it should need 2 separate tier lists

@simpicusmaximus 3 года назад

Feel like I would have placed Iceni much higher but that's my personal bias I think. I just feel like their chariots alone just put them above and in a good position especially when they start off on the map dealing with just barb factions that literally can not deal with chariots at all Edit: realized only halfway through this tier list was specific to multi-player battles which I know nothing about and don't partake in. My bad. Also appreciate how you put the other two channel tier list at the end. I liked how different they all were and how the different views of different players can validate different factions in different ways

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

yeah everyone has their factions which they love! But yeah those chariots can be really useful but u got to watch out for pila and arrows!

@titus7692 3 года назад

there not that good

@Hello-od1xq 2 месяца назад

Was always under the impression thorax swords were really good bc PA called the “professionals”. Learning new things every day lol.

@Skull.man00 10 месяцев назад

I must strongly disagree. Specially about Seleucid, Nabatea, and Maessyli. 1. Seleucid have variety of every type of units, which are also good. You don't need to focuse on Phalanx, you can go with different type of strategy. They got really good cavalry, archers, good melee and one of the best pikemen(if not the best one). All that also makes Seleucid balanced enough to fight every single faction. 2. Nabatea got not only desert hoplites, but also good cavalry (shock, skrimisher, etc.). Not mentioning the pikemen, decent infantry roaster, and archer unit. You're not stuck to use one type of strategy(unlike Massylia, Athens, or Syracuse), and its good balanced. 3. Maessyli (Aka Numidia) beside not having archers, has one of the best variety of units I experienced so far. Having both noble infantry and legionnaire units later on with good cavalry and peltasts makes it pretty much op, even against Rome. Also, you can spam cheap slave warriors if you feel like it, both mp and campaign.

@Rogue_Centurion Год назад

No no. Suebi needs to be on the god tier with Rome. Why? Because of the CLUB LEVY

@nickoosterhuis5926 2 года назад

Loved this video, helped me choosing my next faction

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Glad I could help!

@davidspackman7534 Год назад

I was Sad with Arevci they are so good I beat rome in a 1v1 land battle was pretty close though and Scutari are insane for there price. I love Masealili or as I call them Desert Rome I love there cav and infantry.

@PseudonymsAreGovnoYaEbalGoogle 11 месяцев назад

Sucsessor Kingdoms are one of the strongest. They aren't as strong in melee infantry department unlike Rome or "Barbarians" but they have pikes and good cavalry.

@JoeBarron1027 2 года назад

Kush is God tier simply because THC

@ghost.2527 Год назад

bro loves his tortoises

@FightMeTotalWar Год назад

Yes sir very important in multi

@username7735 4 месяца назад

Colchis S tier if you want a challenge.

@joriktenkate 9 месяцев назад

For me 5 star: Romans, Cartage, Suebi 4 star: Kush, Sabae 3 star: Athens, Parthia I think no one ask to romans why in 5 star. but wbu Cartage and Suebi? Cause Cartage has republic too and very good position for war, specially for punic wars My best one is Suebi. You can feel %100 how it can feel play as barbarian. İncredibles units and big forest. Good hunt the Romans. 4 star is Kush and Sabae. Cause in this game, Real Egypt is Kush. All oldest god and goddes has Kush. Good units and elephants. Sabae is typically Arabs. İf you love desert and camels it worth it. 3 star is Athens and Parthia. Cause Persian has 3 important family and Arschak is one of this too. I like to play parthia because you can make it bigger your land soo easily. Big Eastern Persian. Athens is good too cause of very good navals. I didnt add selucid or egypt. Because except units, I never feel they are diffrent or some special aura. For me, they are soo simple.

@esclavodelsistema9783 2 года назад

in my last carthage campaign, rome was destroyed by syracuse and etruscs

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Really?! That’s like one in a million chance haga

@zanguauvaitomacu4925 2 года назад

@@FightMeTotalWar not really lol i did some campaings and in most of them Rome gets destroyed by AI.

@manhluan371 3 года назад

It seems that the factions that specialize in using cavalry are not appreciated by you, they are difficult factions and require superior personal skills not for new players. But I quite agree with your ratings, except for Pegamon and Athens. Sorry my english is not very good!

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

Your English was btw good! yeah that's right i havent rated cav factions really high bc they are harder to use and thanks for giving your opinion

@fadope1612 2 года назад

Well he never said that he didnt like them, its just that they are one dimensional which makes them predictable, a big negative in competitive multiplayer. As a singleplayer noob :) I like those faction because they force you to change your playstyle and are refreshing BUT that doesnt change the fact that I will have a way harder time playing a cav only faction than playing a versatile faction

@mitchellgiles6869 2 года назад

@@FightMeTotalWar I was once of the same mind, that cavalry factions are trash and OP infantry factions are OP. That all changed when I took one of my legions up against an army of 20 units of cavalry. Since then, I have learned, if you make an army of 20 units of GOOD cavalry, the ONLY thing that can hold you back is a walled city. These days, I only play factions with good cavalry and I usually make 40-50% of my armies entirely out of cavalry. I've done this as both Nabataea on GC and Parthia on IA and it's like putting the game on easy mode

@GGMatt Год назад

@@mitchellgiles6869 Think you and many others have missed the point of the tier list. It's a list based on the factions strength in multiplayer, not when facing against AI or the campaign. In multiplayer, where there are often rules limiting your budget and what you can bring to the battle, cavalry factions are just not effective against real players because they're very predictable and easy to plan for.

@rickastely996 Год назад

Start of the video Rome is god tier. Well considering the name of the game it makes sense😂

@Jarulf4477 Год назад

Sad Roxolani noises... But, happy Getae noises.

@thewinner7382 5 дней назад

Who tf plays Rome 2 without DEI 😭

@happy10111 9 месяцев назад

Can you play all fraction straight away

@FightMeTotalWar 9 месяцев назад

U got to buy dlc

@mamad7375 Год назад

Did this Bruv really put parthia into meh 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

@burakbakioglu7487 3 года назад

Massegatea with them archer horse is a menace.

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

Yeah true!

@josephtangtaipei 3 года назад

Thureos Spears bias i would say factions with light horse and elite shock cav are all god tier

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

Hahaha YEAH you right jjj 😉

@jbarbz959 3 года назад

You could tell it was jj when he said light horse

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

yeah indeed hahah

@biblicalbasher7908 2 года назад

Fucking light horse. Who else could it be but Joseph tang himself

@jbarbz959 3 года назад

Iam surprised arverni ain’t god tier but I guess it’s just opinion I would rank arverni 3rd best faction in my opininion

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

oh interesting! Yeah its definitely a good faction, but im not sure i think galatia stonger and boii is just a personal opinion same with desert rome

@jbarbz959 3 года назад

@@FightMeTotalWar yh my top four Rome Galatia arverni boii. Personally I just prefer the archers

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

Yeah that could work too, I was mainly looking at attack, defense and land battle> I would say boii is better on defense and on land battle but on attack i would rate boii maybe higher so that was 2-1 for boii.

@dfsfssdfsdfs3084 3 года назад

Haha no way, low a tier.

@tomislavandric6476 2 года назад

Bruh why are seleucids ranked decent? They are almost there at min or even god tier dude almost as good as Rome. They have every unit that you can want to win, they can easy shit on Rome if you play them well. And their elite pikemen has most base armor of any other pike unit dude they can tank missile for days wtf you underrate Seleucid too much

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

I can see what you are saying, but their inf just really lack and wont hold out against barb fac specially nor rome

@tomislavandric6476 2 года назад

@@FightMeTotalWar You could try elite spam them their elite swordsman can do work and has shield wall aloot of defence and also has high weapon damage. And Azat knight are one of the best cavalry in game for that money. They deffinetly deserve to be in top at least of all other greek nations just because of how many units they have and i even forgot elephants and they can also build tortoise for seige. If Rome is banned in pvp like normaly is the case , not many can beat them easy.

@tomislavandric6476 2 года назад

@@FightMeTotalWar and realy those silver pike men are best in game both for pvp and pve even bots like too shoot pikes with arrows and they can tank so much you wouldnt beleive expetialy in campaign when you upgrade them to golden equipment.

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

yeah thats true, Also ye those silver shields are not bad indeed bc of the 100 armor!

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

i ban my self from bringing pikes for campaign makes it much more fun and challanging

@miguelgonzalezfernandez2967 Год назад

Bueno Yo mejor me Callo al ver la mitad de la Lista lo que opino. XDDDDD Ya poner Arevacos en Meee ya se que no ahi muchas horas Jugadas😅

@ehsanp3015 11 месяцев назад

It's funny that, Parthia roled half of the world but these game makers show them weak

@fuckhandles1233 9 месяцев назад

Bactria definitely has tortises; their heavy shock cavalry is also top notch

@Gyrosmeister 2 года назад

Why is Athens above Macedon, Epirus, Ptolemies etc? The latter are better in every single way

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

higher then ptolemies bc it can bring tortoises and higher then epirus bc it got more mid tiers - higher bc macedon bc it got thorax hoplites. Thats my opinion but you dont have to agree with it. I do have to say macedon and ptolemies do be stronger in land battles

@Gyrosmeister 2 года назад

@@FightMeTotalWar The tortoise is only used in siege attack and on certain maps, on defence, in barbarian cities, and on land battles Athens cannot do much to counter the Diadochoi. Tortoise is very situational compared to what the Diadochoi can bring. Plus it is much easier to counter Athens than Macedon or Egypt

@frankxiang667 2 года назад

What is this tier list based on? Is it based on campaign or multiplayer?

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Mostly multiplayer

@mcmuffin9761 2 года назад

I can't see why you have ranked Syracuse so much lower than Athens. They have the same troops other than the mercenaries. Ranking lower than all the rest because of creten archers when they have samnites and the different mercenary cav

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

I understand your confusion! The cretens played a pretty big role in that decision! als syracuse cant bring tortoises which played even a bigger role

@mcmuffin9761 2 года назад

Yer but they have better mercenaries like the samnites, and the Italian cav

@kunknown2340 2 года назад

@@mcmuffin9761 syracuse for barb sieges and open battles, athens for civilized sieges purely cuz of torts.

@SpiderChan-tg9nm 3 года назад

pretty accurate ngl

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

👍

@TheSm1thers 2 года назад

What's the difference between Athens and Syracuse? Aren't they the same?

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

one has samnites one has cretan archers

@FB-xd2ti 2 года назад

I assume this is for multiplayer only?

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Yes its mostly for units of the factions

@GomerBNR Год назад

tactics? strategy? naaaaah. I'm just going to compare who has better units in terms of characteristics and siedge testudo...🤦‍♂ and the mercinares... are you only comparing in position on pvp??

@FightMeTotalWar Год назад

Mostly pvp

@ianperry8557 2 года назад

What’s the best way to use Roman missile units? I’m not too much a fan of javelin as my ranged option so I’m curious. I’m not a well versed Rome 2 player so I appreciate the advice y’all!

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

The javelins need to be used on a flank (best on left flank to hit the non shield side of your enemy unit) Slingers just got to sling at everything they can

@ianperry8557 2 года назад

@@FightMeTotalWar okay yeah I usually put the skrimishers in front of the line infantry like I would slingers or archers! Makes sense though thank you

@cyfertea8707 Год назад

Never put them on the front and always place them in the flanks. Leave the javelin front line throwing to your roman infantry. Place your javelins to the flanks, to target non shielded or enemy ranged (but I would recommend targeting melee enemies instead), leave the archer sniping to sligers. Javelin can also be used to either cancel or weaken enemy cav charge. Javelin can also kill Elephants before they can even reach your lines. Basically, Javelins are like shotguns, they do deadly damage, but they need to be close and to attack where it hurts. Don't use them as a regular ranged since they won't work that way, they can do damage to shielded units but they don't have enough ammo to damage them enough, they also don't have the range to beat archers and slingers, so their best use is from the sides.

@مؤيدابواليل 10 месяцев назад

Bro you got the Syrian Archers

@ianperry8557 10 месяцев назад

@@مؤيدابواليل yeah only once you’ve built auxiliary barracks in Syria too bad that isn’t the case in the beginning. I more meant jav units as that’s what you start with.

@ph6475 3 года назад

Man really just put athens over the Iberian factions...

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

i do agree that the iberian factions are really strong in combat but in terms of risk is better to bring athens, bc they also got really good archers and tortoises which will help out a lot

@SagaciousOwl 8 месяцев назад

When you suck at playing with horse factions

@pkgamingbenchamrksandgamep3513 Год назад

you underestimated spartans they are better then athens lol

@naufal3912 Год назад

Ok I will choose Rome for war 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@FightMeTotalWar Год назад

😂

@mmljamal7676 Год назад

bruhh parthia is god hes campaign its easy mony hack

@jackyates8209 3 года назад

EAT IT

@mrabdiisacuck8211 2 года назад

Eastern factions are the best in the game with no rules.. Pergamon is absolute garbage their only tool is shock cav... Nab loses to every sword faction and mauled by greeks... This tierlist is Shit. Also Sparta, Kush, Selucid, Carthage, Iceni, Egypt are all pretty terrible especially Sparta and Kush.

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Alright different thoughts are allowed for sure!

@Dangelboyd 3 года назад

I'm surprised you ranked Lusitani so low, I agree they can get gunned down easily, but like you say, once they're in combat, they can tear shit up. Very much an enemy you need to keep at arms length as often as you can

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

yeah you definitely need to social distance from lusitani :)

@im_flat 2 года назад

I think both of the Iberian tribes (Arevaci and Lusitani) are actually really fucking good but you need a good player to do well with them because of their big vulnerabilities. Once they get into the fight though they kick ass. They’re similar to the Odrysian Kingdom in a way but less risky imo. All have similar playstyles with Arevaci being the “safest”, Lusitani being the riskier but not riskiEST, and Odrysians having the biggest potential for absolute ass kicking but also being incredibly risky

@Lp-army1 4 месяца назад

I think he ranking them on how good they are generally but he also mentioned new players when talking about galatia so I don't think their a good faction in that context

@benchild1339 Год назад

I think you’re really underselling Bactria, amazing selection of cavalry and missile and while slightly lacking in infantry, they’re by no means weak in that department. They’re so hard to beat in a land battle if you use them right, I think people that say they’re bad just don’t necessarily know how best to use them cuz they’re a very unique faction, they don’t play as a typical Hellenistic or eastern faction. They have strong melee and shock cav and pretty good archer cav, a wide selection of archers and javelinmen, royal guard hoplites kinda suck but thorax swords and scale hoplites hold their own

@throwaway999able 8 месяцев назад

they also have elephants

@ivanvoloder8114 7 месяцев назад

They are all- rounders like Selucids. Realy strong faction.

@CamdenSingletary 4 месяца назад

Also really strong early game economy just get an army of mid tier units and those Persian archers.

@phyrr2 2 месяца назад

Agreed. Baktria can run much like the Sassanids in the old BI. Hammer and anvil works very well.

@arthurthemacarthur4334 Год назад

Massilia on campaign is an entirely different experience than multiplayer battles. The massilian hoplites are expensive but can pin the enemy for a long time, and gaul units in the ranks makes this faction very versatile.

@procter_8674 Год назад

In all my campaigns Massalia has always been a power house

@michaelrodgers435 Месяц назад

And when you play your political game right your secondary party and politicians can facilitate an upwards of 300% research rate.

@Chris.Notaras Год назад

I disagree with many choices you made that i dont have the space to describe, but the fact that made me angry , is that Seleucid and Macedon are not god factions ... They literally have everything you need to win in the game . The only bad thing for Seleucid is their bad strategic beginning on the map , being surrounded from many strong factions who hate them , despite the fact that they have their clients...

@fcooandrade 11 месяцев назад

I think is a mp focused list

@swamidude2214 Месяц назад

Good luck playing those battles in MP were a player controls the enemy armies. You cant cheese your way through with pikes then.

@nrsy3059 2 года назад

Macedon straight up wins against seleucids and the other successors. Best pikes(highest attack), best shock cav (slow cataphracts < fast companion cav), elephants only good against rome or sword heavy infantry factions + easly countered by flaming arrows. The only thing you can do against macedon is skirmishers since macedon pikes has the worst armor 70 I think, while silver shields have 100! But since you have the best shock cav you can just run down ranged units ez after beating the enemy cav. You finish the battle with the good old hammer and anvil.

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Yeah I can understand your thoughts! but against competitive players using pikes and cav will be hard, bc its easy to counter. and against infantry based factions like boii tylis galatia rome etc you will have a hard time.

@Floppedd 2 года назад

Bro r u dreaming ? Epirus,egypt have best pikes hellenic royal guard

@Skull.man00 10 месяцев назад

Seleucids have really good melee infantry, archers, and heavy cavalry as well. Anyone who knows how to play as them can easily counter Phalanx formation.

@angleofshadow9818 6 месяцев назад

Online Battles usually follow the rule 124 = 1 Artillery unit, 2 Pike units, 4 Missile units Some add 7 there aswell, and it means you can only pick 7 Thorax Swordmen or Spartan Hoplite etc.

@absyahwa7698 3 года назад

Very helpful and nice presentation with in-game units well done

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

Thanks Man!❤

@MemekingJag 2 года назад

I dislike this video because you're barely understandable half the time and don't explain your choices well, also you're basing it exclusively on multiplayer battle use.

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Thats alright Jag! you do you. yeah i made this video in my early days, not with the mic i have now so i can understand that! yes its mostly based on multiplayer and i dont want to dive in to many details otherwise it would be a vid of an hour

@thecenturion1634 3 года назад

I would rate egypte a little higher than athens because of the Karin axemen, egypte also gets the extra nubian which is useful.

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

Yeah I totally Agree, but i was thinking a little to competitive bc of the tortes but yeah i think egypte roster is way stronger yeah but tortes do be really usefull!

@thecenturion1634 3 года назад

@@FightMeTotalWar fair enough, it would mainly be on my experience with barb maps.

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

yeah i think i have to agree that egypte is stronger than athens on barb maps!

@TheBikeOnTheMoon 2 года назад

I do think Seleucid should be on Almost there tier really, the fact that they can spam syrian archer is just so good and the silver shield swordsmen is surprisingly pretty damn good too. if used right, silver shield can beat oath sworn 1v1. Another downside aside from lacking low tier melee infantry is they lack mid tier heavy melee cav, but that doesn't matter much in siege.

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

ye true, bot sure about the 1vs1 with the oath tho

@TheBikeOnTheMoon 2 года назад

@@FightMeTotalWar the keyword is "used right" because if you just charge them in 1v1, they will just straight up lose xd

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

ye haha

@stefgrap5878 2 года назад

No man.., you blew it... Don't judge a unit because of the price, but for how it does in the battlefield!!! You flammed some pretty good factions because of that.

@thekillakoalas2458 2 года назад

I think why Kush is so op and banned online is because people tend to just go ultra or even more than ultra in terms of funds so their one downside is totally countered out lol.

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Yeah I 100% agree! for ultra funds its strong! but for large funds it will become more balanced

@dgray3771 11 месяцев назад

The list you made is serously rated at multiplayer. In single player especially factions like Crimea have options to make vassels from which they can supplement their ranks. And easily get kick ass armies. Something barbarians lack.

@Pops1970 2 года назад

I've gotta strongly disagree with Bactria. Strongly. I've played a few campaigns with them and dominated fairly easily. If you think they are that bad, you're probably playing them wrong

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

I dont think they are bad i just think there are more stronger factions compared to bactria

@dedeferreira98 2 года назад

In Multiplayer Baktria is amazing. I've won so many battles with them

@DirectlyFromMusic-DFM 2 года назад

Ithink this video is meant for online and not campaign against ai 😅

@Gabeguthriemusic 2 года назад

Bactria is cool because you can run the phalanx / horse archer combo. But their units do have some serious flaws.

@jameswisslead4533 2 года назад

It's good/it's not that good/tortoises......I know there's a lot of factions to get through and maybe this was just fun for you but your analysis has zero depth.

@carloscar7994 Год назад

Pergamon is also my favorite, and Agema Spears are so nice. They look cool, their unit card is cool, their name is cool and they're usefull. I always feel like I get more value out of my Hippeus lancers on Pergamon.

@thewinner7382 5 дней назад

All these unit cards are ugly

@Robert399 2 года назад

I love how every time you say axemen the subtitles say "X-Men" (and thorax => "four eggs")

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Hahah lol did not reallise

@tugrulserhat 11 месяцев назад

any faction with pikes is god tier. pike wall ftw. get 16 pike infantry and 4 missiles, make a rectangle pike wall and put the missile units in the middle. (disable skirmish) there's no way you can lose a battle to ai with this setup even if they have a combined army of 4k men

@ogsmonk168 7 месяцев назад

Onager entered the chat

@Curious_Lancelot Год назад

How could Sparta be lower than even Athens(the worst in the game)?!

@FightMeTotalWar Год назад

Sparta is just not a great faction unfortunately

@mikehoncho1005 Год назад

Yo I've been playing Rome 2 for many years but only campaigns, I recently in the last few months started playing MP siege battles and I gotta say it's really fun so far. Still get my ass kicked a lot but I hold my own in most games now, your videos have helped me so much. I used to not understand why certain units were destroying me and your videos really helped me understand a lot of that.

@FightMeTotalWar Год назад

Yeah thats important to understand and know! Glad to have helped

@carlossantoszambrano7316 2 года назад

colquis better than lusitani?? Galatia better that Egypt? cmon men

@JD.......... Год назад

Very good of you to include other's opinions at the end of the video! Class act.

@FightMeTotalWar Год назад

❤️🤝

@picogagula448 2 года назад

Persia have all selucid units i guess coz i fought against them in campaign. I think rome is OP but any pikeman nation can beat rome easy in right hands

@vtecasses99 2 года назад

Parthia and Armenia are top tier factions on open field battles, I have won pretty much all battles against Rome with them just by cavalry superiority

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

yeah they def stand out in land battles! but i find them a little to bad on sieges and there are still other factions that could possibly beat them on land battles like: colchis, pontus, nabatea, etc but i get what you mean for sure!

@scorpiontdalpha9799 2 года назад

That means you are really lucky If you bring too much calv, your opponent will just box

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Yeah true!

@vtecasses99 2 года назад

@@scorpiontdalpha9799 Mmmmm... I don't think so, that's literally what bad players do. You just need archer superiority too, what is easy to get with parthian foot and horse archers with just enought infantry to hold a bit, in general people don't expect infantry non focused armies. To be completely sincere this is something hard to pull off, you need to micro manage your army a lot, but still posible and has very satisfying results.

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

yeah indeed!

@SondreWingarElnes Год назад

"They got 80 armour which is bit bad" "They got 80 armour which is really stable" Which is it? Just a honest question, i understand if its good or bad depends on the unit its on. But, is 80 armour alot or not alot of armour?

@FightMeTotalWar Год назад

80 is a lot when did i say that is wasnt?

@ivanvoloder8114 7 месяцев назад

I'm currently playing as Macedon and I realy like their pikemen units. I managed to beat Outhsworn units from barbaric factions with minimal losses. Plus their cavalary selection is awsome.

@AN-nt3uv 2 года назад

Nice overview i just have found now. In general i find the CA factions more interesting the the Mehh rated once. But i understand your reasoning. Great video.

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Fair enough! Thanks AN!

@abdallah78937 Год назад

Baktria got bullied so hard 😂💀💀💀🔥🔥🔥

@FightMeTotalWar Год назад

😂😂

@antonvol Год назад

Seleucid should be right after Rome, and after that should be Parthia. Next are Arverni if you know how to play

@francksands 2 года назад

Baktria is way stronger than athens

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Why you think so? Bc Athens got tortoises which is very useful to get through the walls. They got thorax and thorax hoplites better archers and slingers.

@yoranger7735 Год назад

should this not be named as faction tier for seiges? cuz some of the faction ranking are off for pitches

@FightMeTotalWar Год назад

Ye thats true

@phyrr2 2 месяца назад

Retitle this as "Rankings for new/casual players". Veteran players would see this board change up quite a bit (Baktria 100% worse than Athens? Have you used them properly? The strategy's not even that difficult!). Not a complaint as it's your opinion and your video.

@xXxLYnXxXx 2 года назад

Dude ... do your homework and then ask again why a Horse-Tribe have Horse-Units *facepalm*

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Haha what do you mean?

@xXxLYnXxXx 2 года назад

@@FightMeTotalWar Ur Video doesnt make any sense, if u have some clue from history, u would know that

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Why? its not historical tier list its a strength factions tier list, i dont get what you are talking about

@alisalmani7598 2 года назад

Parthia is much stronger than you think because of having the horse archers

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Thats true!

@brendontorres1526 7 месяцев назад

I'm going to be honest, Ardiaei is not a good faction. The only good units they have are the noble hoplites. That's it. It's one of the weakest factions in the entire game. I have compared them, and they stood no chance against almost all the other factions. They were almost like a warm-up.

@entertainmentchannel4307 11 месяцев назад

I think Rome is overrated, looking at it from the perspective of someone who plays the campaign alot, it lacks ranged units and many units that for some reason are available in multiplayer, such as elephants. If each nation used only it actual troops (national troops that are available in the campaign) i think Rome wouldn't be that strong, while a nation like Selucid has an enormous variety of units, should be a peer to Rome. Same for carthage.

@howitzer551 Год назад

If this is for siege battle my only problems have to do with my playstyle vs yours, so great no notes. But if this is for land battle omg, we have problems, too many to go into!

@FightMeTotalWar Год назад

its for sieges ye

@hugoricofernandez1625 Год назад

you father go to the milk shop and the they never come back se esta fumando un canuto de hierba?

@nathanaelsallhageriksson1719 Год назад

As a getae enjoyer I have to shill for them a second. I think, personally, that the falxmen shoulda gotten a mention here cause they are super important to making a good mid table army, as the trick is to mix in high quality with low quality to make up for the lack of good mid tier options. (guideline not a rule). This is how I have had the most success with them as they are basically the faction I one trick in MP. You can out charge a surprising amount of shock cav, and they are there fore great as supports for your flanks. The only issue is that it's difficult to deal with skirmishers with their roster, cause you have no Celtic spearmen equivalent.

@toasty2324 3 года назад

V well made n constructed vid. Thanks. The odrision luminary should be a tier up I think tho cos CA purposely made them high risk high reward scary factions. N selucid should defo be an almost there faction.

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

Thanks Toasty! yeah u right, but odrysia is just really risky in competitive game and it never gets pick bc its to risky compare to the rest that why we have it that low on the tier list to make it more attractive.

@toasty2324 3 года назад

@@FightMeTotalWar yeah I get where ur coming from ;) I just say that cos sometimes it is fun to take that risk n sometimes it pays off bigtime. n that should have said lusitani not luminary. U should do a DEI ( the rome 2 mod ) tier list if ur into that.

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

yeah i could maybe do that indeed in the futur!

@itiswhatitis12341 2 года назад

I feel like the Greeks units where made too weak.

@TheBikeOnTheMoon 2 года назад

technically they were weak during this period, maniple like systems at this time are just superior historically.

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

ye greeks are not the strongest

@pacifist3651 3 года назад

first. looks good high quality. basically agree with most of them EXCEPT thureos spears have NEVER been underated. they have always been OVER rated. >:(

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

Thanks Pacifist! Yeah you true! Should not have said that!

@mohammadeydi3726 2 года назад

In fact, most of the time, the Parthians crushed the Roman armies, like Crassus, despite having much fewer people

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Historical indeed, but in rome 2 Parthia is alright but not top tier

@oneshortgamer2540 Год назад

romans were unexperienced back then it all quickly changed when Julius came into control

@jacobshropshire6888 3 года назад

Massagetae horribly underrated. I disagree with a lot of your placements, actually. Still, a very interesting video.

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

yeah they can be a really strong faction! but i personally dislike them, bc when i play against them i get irritated bc its really annoying and if i play the faction my self i feel bad for the other players. but yeah its for sure a really strong faction! Hope u enjoyed it!

@essamyaseen1114 Год назад

Brother for me egypt is much the best faction in game ....even better than rome it self .it has literally everything

@mr.actapus4069 2 года назад

Great video!, i agree with most, but man, those northen cavalry factions, such as royal scythia can just kill any troop you want. Put them on skirmish mode + strong arrows and they can beat anyone

@crazydudeofcrazyness Месяц назад

Brev not everything is balanced around rams that have cover jfc

@darkglobe406 2 месяца назад

rome is the most forgiving faction in terms of micro management mistakes during online battles for sure . but they can be easily countered , each battle depends on what faction you are going up against and adjust your faction and tactics based on that . lusitani could be great for sure if you don´t take them vs horse archer eastern faction , overall they don´t deserve to be in the last tier . as for odrysia you can protect your nobles with cheap fodder units and also thracian peltasts and relatively cheap melee cav. also there are veteran hoplites and hoplites which will hold the line and eat shots while you charge with your falx infantry later . siege battles are boring and they take too long also none of the really good players play them . i would not rate faction based on sieges .

@FightMeTotalWar 2 месяца назад

True!

@nikau9311 3 года назад

Thats what funny about kush there power is there weakness but i think its stronger than carthage.

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

Haha yeah true!

@LethalOwl 2 года назад

I think you might want to make it clear this is focused on MP battles. Maybe make another list focused on campaign, because the list would look radically different then. Still, nice list!

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Ye true thanks tho!

@LethalOwl 2 года назад

@@FightMeTotalWar Think you'd be willing to make one for campaign, actually? Would definitely watch :D

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

ye for in the future

@alexanderroy4550 3 года назад

The stepp factions are way better then you say they are I've never lost using them against people and you don't need to full Sally with them if u team with saba use the drako to cycle masagat marauders and your cav that combo will usually kill 3 full units per a marauder

@FightMeTotalWar 3 года назад

yeah that could be indeed really strong its just something personal, when i see the steppe factions its always just disturbing hahah but overall could be used in different ways indeed

@theabsin5959 2 года назад

The main issue with the steppe factions is because they all cavalry they suffer with sieges and you're quite limited, I just think that of all the factions you can use they are definitely bottom of the barrel

@theabsin5959 2 года назад

I know the focus is on land armies but I would bump Kush up over barbarian tribes because they have a better fleet. If you play them right you can rush Egypt and aksum at the beginning given you a great start to your campaign

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Oh oke didnt know they had a strong fleet! interesting!

@bigpauly2703 4 месяца назад

baktrien may not have the best units but it has the sick bonus of having -100% penalty on public order when you take over a city so basicly you never have to worry about any sort of rebellion be it the overthrown faction or slaves

@cookietrouble4637 2 года назад

You clearly don’t know what you are talking about 😂

@FightMeTotalWar 2 года назад

Hahaha why you think so😂

@cookietrouble4637 2 года назад

@@FightMeTotalWar although rome have a large different type of units for different threats, the ultimate OP nations are for me Rome, Baktria, Egypt and Macedon (or Epirus). Then come the rest of the Greek nations and then the nomadic tribes like Parthia, royal scynthia, etc. Anyone of these can defeat each other. Rome lacks on expert horse archers, but then have excellent heavy infantry. The nomadic tribes almost defeated rome through the large usage of horse archers. Edit: You know what you are talking about, but I don’t think rome should stand alone at the top. 😊

@thewinner7382 5 дней назад

What's with this effing tortoise obsession?