I Remade Minecraft But It is Optimized! 

😂😂😂😂 ye good idea, next April fools video

It’s been a while since last time I heard this

(or you cant do that)

is this an optimized mod for minecraft? If not can you make one that absolutely obliterates sodium? Is it even possible?

@@lowlevelgamedev9330 add the create mod to this clone + Steam N' Rails, Create Enchantment Industry and also Create: Copycats Plus to your MC copy to make it a slightly original game

thanks bro 💪 I really appreciate

Best videos to watch 💪, but after that go to sleep 🔫

But after that I will go and my my homework

I love watching your videos at 5 am… before I go to bed 🗿

3:20 am for me

No I will watch more i don't need sleep i need more vids​@lowlevelgamedev9330

🤣😂 mood

Thats what im saying

reminds me of minetest

Wouldn't he get sued tho ?

@@NikhilStill for what?

@@NikhilStill The only thing he might get sued here for is using minecraft's textures i think.

@@kidnamedfinger.productionshe should partner with some texture pack creator to add it to the game, like the Bare Bones texture pack. It’ll look like the games trailers without taking any of the trailers or actual games content

well because that was a thing I will do anyway so I wanted to make the other parts as good as possible, for ao I will probably use ssdo or something and I'll see what other things I'll add

ye that's one reason I don't want to use mesh shaders :((

​@@lowlevelgamedev9330 youd be able to support mesh shaders on all gpus from the past 6 years if you written this on dx12 or vulkan, but i dont blame you because these apis are much lower level and more difficult to implement

@@lowlevelgamedev9330 Unless you start over and switch to Vulkan.

yes that makes sense, thanks 💪💪

well I think it is just the fact that there os too much geometry, after the frustum culling I get to very good fps

Well graphics are actually a big part of it... Thats why sodium mod works. It updates a lot of the rendering engine with modern OpenGL. Same with nvidium, which uses modern graphics techniques like using meshes. Minecraft's rendering engine is outdated and slow. Dont get me wrong, theres a lot more too but most people will see a huge improvement with a better rendering engine alone. This is already proved by performance mods. When everything is already loaded into memory (i.e. no cpu intensive chunk loading) the main bottleneck is typically graphics.

@@riley1636 Minecraft on low end CPUs can be a pain in the ass. If you run towards unexplored chunks the game starts stuttering, and if you use an elytra or fly in creative mode it becomes a crazy stuttery mess

@@riley1636 I understand what you're saying. and yes, indeed, the graphical component of Minecraft really suffers, as evidenced by the devlogs of enthusiasts who recreate its graphics (although most still do not do such important things as mobs, particles, blocks with custom models such as anvils, etc. , this is still quite clear evidence). However, i think the graphics are not a bottleneck - that's what I wanted to say. It is much easier to draw 1000 chunks than to simulate same amount correctly. Especially if the game has many objects with non-trivial logic (unlike, for example, noita, where pixels work according to relatively simple laws). By the way, to confirm this, i need to do accurate performance measurements. Without this, it's just a thought experiment (and the result of observing that a couple hundred mobs can cause more lag than a giant factory from create mod)

@@cyanmargh I think youre right in theory, but in practice minecraft doesnt usually have that many mobs all at once for it to be a major issue. You're right though, its more of a thought experiment right now without measuring.

@@riley1636 mesh shaders are not "meshes". nvidium utilizes the new mesh shaders. It replaces vertex and fragment shaders with just one mesh shader which works similar to compute shaders.

I know that it looks terrible but it is a reason for that. Chunks will be allocated sepparately in the first place, no way around it they are too big so one pointer per chunk, so it is a map to acces it fast. But the list is there because I need to know the order in which I used them, because I want to always throw away the least used chunk. so this is actually a least recently used cache. and again no wat to use one big, buffer that thing has like one gb of memory (measured) ther's no way I can use than when I need load and unload chunks many many times per frame

it's comming 💪💪

It works by generating the terrain of Minecraft in chunks of 16x16x16. Using this method the map's height was able to be increased by 500x while also improving performance. "With 16x16x16 chunks we don't load all the chunks underground that we can't see, massively reducing the memory load. The memory usage is probably the main improvement, although there could be others like creating standard 16x16x16 chunks for air - use just a few special bytes to describe an empty air chunk, massively reducing memory usage and simplifying any code interaction (rendering, physics, AI) of an empty chunk (extend to all dirt chunks, all water chunks, all rock chunks."

​@@ZerSKYi There is a few "known bugs" with that mod and the sky light engine.

That would be insane

just wanted to say that!!!

yes, nice project tho I would have to rewatch his first video to see if his optimizations are better than mine, regardless he uses Java so it's different

Ik i wasnt the only on here feom cosmic reach lol

yo that sounds like it might really help, the problem appaeently is that z pre pass doesnt work with discards in the frafment becahse the gpu cant optimize early depth anymore so I have to look at that

ye I want to add something like that in the settings when the game is ready💪💪

@@lowlevelgamedev9330 lets gooo

wait really? 😯😱

mersii bro 💪

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​@@kiromi790 Minecraft java can run at 500+ fps, while this is still at 90

I don't know why am loving your video man!!.....also I suggest you do make a beginner OpenGL series if you can XD.....

hmmm I don't know, I don't use neither OOP nor ECS 😂 and it doesn't really matter, what you are talking about relates to gameplay stuff, I haven't gotten there yet

The Bedrock edition was, yeah. Java didn't use ECS though

thx bro 💪 I might do some beginner opengl stuff

@@kplays_6000 Yes - minecraft bedrock edition uses entt. I was thinking of making a minecraft clone with vulkan and the flecs ECS myself.

so who will maintain minecraft bedrock edition if no one learns how to make it again?

@@lowlevelgamedev9330 fair enough.

eh probably less things 😂😂😂😂

fuck 😂😂 I don't know vulkan yet but maybe in the future, who knows, if I will do vulkan I will use this comment for the video 💪

@@lowlevelgamedev9330 btw Vulkan has mesh shaders on most modern GPUs.

Mojang was talking about rewriting the Java version with C++ (and a small percent in c#). I hope they still think thay way.

well yeah, but for that you can use thing like optifine

hm interesting, tho that would kill all of the current mods :(

​@lowlevelgamedev9330 worth it

@@fsForward 🗿

you're right and I just realized it 😭 idk how I messed that up, but at least people will get the idea

Just don't code it to be laggy in the first place

Hoppers now work much better in the latest version of Minecraft and Lithium basically makes them lag free.

yes I want to do that but I want to finish gameplay stuff first, untill than you can easily compile it and try it yourself 💪💪

suntem destepti noi Romanii 💪

nope

@@lowlevelgamedev9330 Why not?

first do a hello world, and then study: variables, for/while loops, if, else, switch statements, functions that take nothing and return void, functions with parameters, functions that return values, a bit on classes/structs, enums, a bit on raw pointers and references, a bit on templates, then go back and study a lot about inheritance and different rules, rule of 5, 3, none, learn about different types of casting: static, dynamic, reinterpret, c style cast, learn about const, and constexpr, go back to pointers, smart pointers, go back to templates and learn SFINAE and a bit of metaprogramming.Go back on functions and learn lambdas, function pointers, RAII. Some people might differ with the order of things, but this order to learn c++ is ok From there you will know what to do next.

Google "freeCodeCamp c# certificate" it's a course that was made last year and it's entirely free and made in collaboration with microsoft

@@ProGaming-kb9io how do you even compile 3d model?

almost, unfortunatelly it's not that easy but there is an advanced cave culling algorithm that finds lut what you can see and improves the fps even more

Isnt vulkan notorius for being annoying to use?

@@pootis1699 Not exactly.. vulkan is as low level as it has to be - you shouldn't be using it if you don't know why you need it, and its also better than dx12 in that aspect, vulkan is more consistent and has more resources available online.. though both of them has it's own pros and cons, unique features. You can optimize a lot of things in vulkan, but it's better to start with opengl or dx11, so that you would have some idea of how things are working.. overall it allows a lot of optimizations to be possible, because now that's you who creates "pipeline" and everything, not the driver or API

yes, but there are some times when they are usefull, that is one example because the most common operation is renoving and adding elements, and I also have that map to instantly acces each element

@@lowlevelgamedev9330 it sounds like trading off some storage for speed. Always have to benchmark but I guess you did and found the tradeoff to be good

sounds more hungarian to me

nah he's romanian/moldovan judging by other comments

yess, the first tip is don't treat c++ like java. Don't allocate things on the heap often. I use containers and stuff that do allocations for me but other than that in that project I trped the word "new" less than 10 times. And you saw the scale of it so don't overuse new. Other than that I have some recent videos on tips for starting learning cpp for gamedev 💪💪

​@@lowlevelgamedev9330Alright thanks, CPP has a lot of complex stuff that confuses me, like the #ifendregion type stuff,I understand variables etc

yes si eu sunt 😂😂

I don't have a release yet but you can compile it from my github, right click inside the folder and than click open with visual studio, make sure you compile in the release mode

thanks mate 💪

I have a 16 bit index for textures so I can have 2^16 textures, that's more than enough

*Zach Barth:* _Notch on his blog admitted Minecraft ripped off Infiniminer. “The act of borrowing ideas is integral to the creative process. There are games that came before Infiniminer, and there are games that will come after Minecraft. That’s how it works.”_

unless he sells it, its not a crime

@@roywempor8395 That's incorrect. One CAN sell a Minecraft clone as long as you don't use ANY assets you don't have the legal right to. In the 1980's there where court cases that ruled *gameplay is not copyrightable.*

nope

yess, check out my Mario Kart clone!

@@lowlevelgamedev9330 damn

yes 😂😂

well yes but actually no 😂

yes tho I'm not doing linux dev, you can help me compile it on linux if you want but all of the things that I use are cross platform 💪💪

yess, that will be cool to implement

poate

well it seems to have a build problem rn but I'll try to fix it today and also put building instructions in the readme 💪

@@lowlevelgamedev9330 Thanks bro, keep up the good work! 🙏

hm it's not made in minetest it that's what you are asking, but I'm trying to get to their level and to be honest they got kinda far

@@lowlevelgamedev9330 (sorry for my english)just joking, sometimes i think this is too much C++ Minecraft in RU-vid

well no but actually yes 🤣💪

you can easily compile it: clone the repo, right click inside the folder space, open with visual studio, select from the dropdowm of the play button, ourcraft, add a 64 bit release and ctrl+f5 if you have any problems ping me on my discord server 💪

@@lowlevelgamedev9330 i cant use discord, im too young for it.

@@lowlevelgamedev9330 where is the folder space?

Issues?

poate

Numai romani talentati avem, keep up the good work!

ye, fortunatelly after adding frustum culling I got to 60 fps 💪

nu stiu la ce te referi, eu nu miros nimic aici 🤔

yeah lod for a cube,bravo

well good point but apparently nvidium can do it without lod so no, also they are not that easy to do :(( but who knows maybe in the future I will do them

@@yarik_superpro look up distant horizons

​@@yarik_superpro you can always make a bigger cube. thats what the distant horizons mod does and it allows you to see thousands of blocks away

​@@ettiSurrealAs stated it is not necessary or ever detrimental as new geometry must be computed. I believe you're missing the reason for why lods increase performance. It has not as much to do with decreasing the triangle count as it has with decreasing the number of sub pixel triangles (Which cause a dramatic performance loss). Nvidium already deals with that problem.

At least in comparison to my r5 5600g w/o videocard. You haven't shown any tests side by side with MC

after the frustum culling it's faster than optifine with similar shaders. However it's not faster than something like nvidium. I would have to implement the more advanced culling algorithm first

@@lowlevelgamedev9330 if so then hope it will be compatible with Minecraft protocol at least partially

hell nah bro 💀