There are LAYERS to what the pink opaque means to Owen and Maddy. The way it shifts from an actual TV show to a metaphor for gender dysphoria and society's treatment of queer people is honestly a really good idea imo.
Yeah, the pink opaque, to me, represented their escape from a reality that is hostile to them. This is why they needed it so hard, it's why Owen frames their experiences with queerness and their wishes for salvation through the show. I also really loved the fact that when Owen rewatches the series, it turns out to be nothing like they remembered it and, importantly, the character is no longer black. Because to me that implies that Owens was projecting themself onto the show, onto the character and living through her.
I saw this almost a week ago and it’s still the only thing I can think about. I called my sister immediately after seeing it and will be taking her to see it with me when I come home to see family next week
I love this movie so much. It's a 6/5 for me. So many themes that are executed beautifully, visually, musically, and how it was written. One of my favorite movies of all time
100%. Film, and art in general, shouldn’t be expected to appeal to everyone. When tackling subjects like gender identity and being trans, a cisgender audience is going to lack the experience that the transgender audience has. That’s also why films about certain groups made by people in that group are almost always more relatable than if they’re made by outsiders who haven’t lived a life in their character’s shoes.
The way you subjectively rate a film is different from the way others do. I gave it a 3.5/5 and I loved it. Tbf a 3.5/5 is a 7/10 which is a fairly high score.
It’s not going to be the perfect film for everyone, and that’s okay. People shouldn’t change their own opinions just because something might be objectively good. Film rating is subjective, which is why you combine multiple ratings to form a general idea rather than relying on one or two alone
One big trans allegory, which is fine, but I thought the movie was pretty dull. Looks good, music is good, story...eh. Not a scary movie, even though they SAY it is, more existential horror than anything. Like, where am I going to be in the next ten years? kind of 'horror'
@@FrankLee-f7yyeah this seems to be the same vein of “horror” that Jane’s last film “we’re all going to the worlds fair” was. It’s not REALLY horror in the traditional sense. I really want to watch this though
@user-rv3xn3ki1u More of a psychological horror if anything. The feeling of being trapped inside a body and living a life that isn't your own, and how (spoilers) He is forced to cope with that final decision for the rest of his life, leading him to have a complete breakdown at the end. Honestly, I found it to be very compelling altogether, with lots of symbolism to keep you entertained throughout the story
@@gr-8166this is exactly how I would describe it. It takes the idea of a coming of age and turns it into the most horrifying version of itself. Owen gets old, but they don't get better, they only learn to destroy themself more
I really appreciate how it's a movie about a trans experience, but it flips the scenario. You realise that Owen isn't a boy growing up and confronted with a reality that he's a trans girl, but that he was actually a cis girl who was forcably transitioned into a boy and deceived into thinking that the life he had was his. When you consider it from both perspectives, you arrive at that point that they're the same thing: the negative consequences of a life lived ingenuinely, whether it's because of the forces around you that pressured you into being a certain way, or the lies you tell yourself to keep you on the path of least resistance. Movie's a masterpiece.
Oohhh this vid is old but im so mad. How can someone be stupid enough to make wrong decisions like this then blame everyone but their own dumb self?! Theres so many warnings before you take T, no one forced T on her and no one forced her to get too surgery.
Idk man, I wasn't really feeling this one. I understood the underlining themes but overall just thought the movie was very boring, and a little pretentious. Which shucks, because I thought the premise was fire. A24 is a great outlet for creative stories, but they're also hit or miss for me. Loved "Talk to me" tho. This, however, was definitely a miss.
It's so interesting how different people can have such widely different experiences with art. I see a lot of people calling this film mid or boring or sometimes garbage, but for me and a lot of my friends it is one of the best films we've ever watched. This film is like looking in a mirror for me as a trans woman, and the ending is absolutely heart breaking. It's def a 10/10 for me personally. That's not to say that your opinions on it are wrong, I'm just pointing out how interesting polarizing films like this one are to me personally.
@@izzyizzzbizzzzy I'm glad the film worked for you, truly. It's a visually stunning movie, but the acting and pacing really threw me off. I felt the same way about "We're all going to the World's Fair (the director's other film). I'm cool with slice-of-life films, but I don't like when movies will have you sit there, for five-to-ten minutes, watching a character on screen sit for five-to-ten minutes doing nothing, ya know? Like, at some point, I'm just sitting there thinking, "I paid for this...". Not saying that happens in the movie, but it feels like one of those movies. The soundtrack is really good tho.
It's an acquired taste, it just depends on overall attachment and connection to the story and themes. If the themes didn't speak to you it's fine. Many others tho, myself included connected to the themes so much it was... incredibly engaging and that's coming from me, someone with a shit ADHD attention span.
Lol naww he doesn't like anyone because he doesn't have a heart, moon guy took it. And the shots in the dress allude to Owen being Isabel from the TV show
It’s fine if you didn’t like it, but I don’t think there not being a strong plot is a relevant criticism because I don’t think the narrative is the focal point of the film. You could make the same criticism about essentially every David Lynch movie but there’s a ton of art in the expressionist way of storytelling
Ignoring the woke themes and messages that this movie throws out there. This film is ACTUALLY a terrifying setting to be put in. SPOILERS ALERT: But seriously! Imagine being locked away inside a fake alternate reality, with your original life only being represented through a mere Late-night TV Show called the Pink Opaque. Imagine the terror you'll actually feel once you realize that you've been living a fake life this whole time, but at the same time you're scared of going back to your real life because the world out there is more dangerous than the one your Reality warping nemesis has put you in. The fact that Owen would rather live a familiar hell than escape into an unfamiliar heaven hits really hard because he knows that if he did return to his life as Isabelle, the Moon Man will find a way to end him for good. But even if he didn't leave, his real body will eventually suffocate and die six feet underground either way. Also the scene where Owen rewatches the Pink Opaque as an adult, he thought that the show was more sillier and cornier than he remembered. I think that was the Moon Man trying to patch the real world from leaking through the Fake reality in order to put doubt in Owen and giving him a sense of Mandela Effect.
@@joshuayork8362 "Owen" wore dresses bc they're Isabel from Pink Opaque, they are a trans woman who didn't have the choice to explore their own identity, they didn't like Maddy, Maddy was their bestfriend and they had the confidence to be themselves around her
Deep Emotions are in fact considered to also correlate with deep themes, yes the movie is woke but dude that’s literally the point of the movie, it is deep AND “woke”
It's deep because it tells the story about a person who didn't had the choice to explore their own identity, who suffers for not being themselves and is forced to live a life that they don't want to