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I stand with Stephen 'Wonderboy' Thompson... 

Chael Sonnen
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Chael Sonnen talks Wonderboy Thompson on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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@kingrobthegreat1
@kingrobthegreat1 Год назад
I'm shocked Wonderboy isn't getting his full show money. He showed up and made the contracted weight, his opponent didn't.
@hjon5988
@hjon5988 Год назад
Shocked? Of course he’s not getting his show up to the octagon money but are you sure he’s getting nothing?
@viking_nor
@viking_nor Год назад
​@@hjon5988of course he should get his show money. He showed up ready to fight. This other clown has missed weight before.
@kingrobthegreat1
@kingrobthegreat1 Год назад
@@hjon5988 Genuinely shocked. I understand the promoter feeling burnt, and it effecting their relationship going forward. But that's another conversation. Wonderboy fulfilled his side of the contract and should get paid.
@hjon5988
@hjon5988 Год назад
@@viking_nor how can wonderboy get his show money when he was unfortunately unable to show up? Fighters get paid because they bring in REVENUE from fighting.
@dillonoickle5841
@dillonoickle5841 Год назад
in his interview with Ariel he said apparently Dana White is on vacation but he is currently hopeful that when he comes back he will get paid but we will see.
@Kilamaui
@Kilamaui Год назад
That’s exactly what happened, he lost that fight to Darren Til who was over weight and promised to never do it again.
@throbbinwoodofcoxley6830
@throbbinwoodofcoxley6830 Год назад
He was robbed. He beat till.
@monkeytube138
@monkeytube138 Год назад
@@throbbinwoodofcoxley6830 No he didn't, he was consistently behind Till in output. Go watch it again.
@pierer91
@pierer91 Год назад
@@monkeytube138Till sucked
@DannyB0y257
@DannyB0y257 Год назад
@@throbbinwoodofcoxley6830he did beat Till, London crowd fixed decision.
@danielfarrelly8191
@danielfarrelly8191 Год назад
No shit sherlock that's why he said it
@TherapyDaddy
@TherapyDaddy Год назад
“Pay him. Pay that man his money” - Teddy KGB
@tokyosan7906
@tokyosan7906 Год назад
There wouldn’t be weight classes if it didn’t matter. Uncle Chael is right, I wrestled in HS and college d iii and I can count on one hand the times I saw people miss weight .
@awecballwin77
@awecballwin77 Год назад
The UFC doesn't really punish a guys path who misses weight and wins. Their career advances as normal. Good for wonderboy, because there is not that much of an incentive to make weight beyond character.
@rlinkul
@rlinkul Год назад
I stand with wonder boy!!
@executivelifehacks6747
@executivelifehacks6747 Год назад
I originally said "It's a shame WB isn't fighting" and then corrected myself - "I mean it's a shame Pereira missed weight."
@Hersheyspc
@Hersheyspc Год назад
I am assuming that mischel did miss weight on purpose & hoping the fight will still be on. He didn’t even look like he tried to cut weight. Big reason? He wants an advantage. Due to elevation. They need to revise the rules about missing weight. A heavier penalty. So nobody will miss weight. How about an automatic L on your record? In my opinion they are professional prize fighter. You know what u signed for & u have at least 3 months to prepare for the fight. You should make the weight. It’s all about professionalism dedication & To your craft. You need to have DISCIPLINE. esp if fighting is your bread & butter.
@bobanegaming
@bobanegaming Год назад
That was lowkey my favorite fight on that card
@odedroesler1133
@odedroesler1133 Год назад
HOT TAKE - Its much harder to hit the weight 3 times a year because its not your natural weight. If you maintain the weight for an entire season each Friday, that means you are walking around in that weight and are not actually cutting much, if at all.
@theJoefamilychannel
@theJoefamilychannel Год назад
He should have been given his show money 100%
@fezii9043
@fezii9043 Год назад
Wonderboy was absolutely in the right and it's disgusting that Dana uses his name to sell the card, has ALL the budget for the pay set in stone already, regardless of how the event does financially, and then doesn't pay Wonderboy. This guy has been a model fighter, a true company man and a consummate professional. He deserves better.
@jacobeberhardt1649
@jacobeberhardt1649 Год назад
Man showed up on weight, ready to fight. He deserves his show money. It's Michel Pereira who should be punished. Not Wonderboy.
@The_R-n-I_Guy
@The_R-n-I_Guy Год назад
I heard Wonderboy describe how he felt about it and why he did what he did. I completely agree with him. And I agree with Chael
@Out-tha-mud-
@Out-tha-mud- Год назад
Wonderboy showed up and made weight,, pay the man!! Tyler is from Johnson City, and was a pretty good fighter himself, he understands the fight game.
@christiangerhardt2408
@christiangerhardt2408 Год назад
Big rig sure held true to the disciplined wrestler statement.
@worldwolf9909
@worldwolf9909 Год назад
Right, backup fighters get paid to make weight. Peraira should get the Khamzat treatment, forced to move up.
@hung8969
@hung8969 Год назад
Never missed weight in 18 years of wrestling. Once drive 12 hours in 4 pairs of sweats heat on blast while spitting in a cup and still was .4 heavy. Lowkey went and beat off and then ran for 30 mins. Made it flat
@tomass234
@tomass234 Год назад
Wonderboy is one of the only people i see online i assume is an actual nice person. Everyone tries to look nice but he does it naturally.
@ezrafree619
@ezrafree619 Год назад
How many videos Chael got? I ain’t ever heard him finishing a point yet. Come on Chael!
@ChaosPro_
@ChaosPro_ Год назад
is CHEAL drunk or sick, he sounds a bit off. I hope hes ok I love this dude. hes always very clear when he talks
@EvonyNinj
@EvonyNinj Год назад
I stand with wonderboy & would love to see the match in a month
@marcusb2494
@marcusb2494 Год назад
Maybe each fight on the main card should have a back up fighter that both fighters agree with, if one fighter misses weight, they get cut and the back up gets the fight, and the money of the replaced.
@weatheredleather
@weatheredleather Год назад
Remember Machida Chael? He was the "First" to Use Karate in it's puriest form.
@ryancastillo1413
@ryancastillo1413 Год назад
Facts !! No other option they don’t respect that man and the UFC needs to get with the game
@alcoyot
@alcoyot Год назад
I’m pretty sure that he did consider the weight difference to matter. In a split decision; everything very close, it could be just a few pounds difference that mattered in some way. And that’s what had happened before to him he said. What they need to do is induce a real penalty, for example if it does come to a split decision, they guy who didn’t make weight would always lose it. I’m pretty sure if that was the case he would have taken the fight.
@kostmalone
@kostmalone Год назад
Wonderboy is a standup guy. I stand with him.
@Kymelean
@Kymelean Год назад
Legitimately every time I see a new video posted I say to myself what’s uncle chael gotta say? I need to listen
@landonvinyard2434
@landonvinyard2434 Год назад
I have insight information that Wonder Boy got paid $30,000 in copper plumbing fittings. The catch is, he has to wait in the Home Depot return line to get paid.
@ruairidhcrichton8590
@ruairidhcrichton8590 Год назад
Whats going on with chaels voice??
@benjaminanderson6856
@benjaminanderson6856 Год назад
Christ Uncle, you okay man? Looking rough I hope you feel better soon.
@ChewTheMPKiller
@ChewTheMPKiller Год назад
I liked it It was condescending lmfao king chael
@bagginbrooks6573
@bagginbrooks6573 Год назад
I don't blame Wonderboy at all for not fighting him, but what I think should happen is the price of the Ppv go down $10 since at that point it's not a full card. Would Uncle Dana buy a new car that's supposed to have leather seats and expect to pay full price if he got the car and the seats were cloth?
@jdias51
@jdias51 Год назад
I stand with WB If you have completely drained your body stopped sweating etc and your still 3 pounds over that means in reality your 12 to 15pounds over
@joshuadreams5492
@joshuadreams5492 Год назад
“ I stand with wonder boy …you know who else I stand with ? Manscape wallets cut your hair and pay your bills “ - pitch man chael
@Phil_4young
@Phil_4young Год назад
Is it really gonna break the ufc to pay him? This is a grimy thing to do to someone who has been a great ambassador for the organization. Huge black eye for the Ultimate Fighting Championship.
@CrunchyTire
@CrunchyTire Год назад
Should they honor their employees and pay the man? Yes. But you absolutely shouldn't be surprised that a fighter contracted to fight didn't get paid because he didn't fight. Maybe they need to add a clause or something that states he gets X dollars in this situation. if his contract said no fight no pay there is nothing more to say. Each year that passes it seems like signing your name to a legal contract means less and less. Bleeding hearts hold more weight than a legal contract in current year
@nickscarla-tl9xp
@nickscarla-tl9xp Год назад
Shouldn’t there be some legal clause in the contact he signed that prevents this type of situation? I mean he signed for a 170 bout, where they have a 1 pound leeway. What is the point in saying fighters can only be allowed over 1lb, if the ufc will just threaten to take away the other fighters pay if he refuses??
@monkpato
@monkpato Год назад
Wonderboy definitely did the right thing and the UFC should handle it differently.
@donaldalexander3555
@donaldalexander3555 Год назад
He deserves his show money. Period.
@wayneglenn5840
@wayneglenn5840 Год назад
What kind of shoes are those
@brob8204
@brob8204 Год назад
"Came back in a what's that" lol - Big Pun
@DreIsGoneFission
@DreIsGoneFission Год назад
What if the fighter who missed weight had to pay for all the fight camp expenses of the other fighter if they chose not to take the fight?
@gizzad
@gizzad Год назад
I love WONDERBOY!
@hole62
@hole62 Год назад
What happened to Chael’s speech?
@shadogabbassio3785
@shadogabbassio3785 Год назад
The chimney isnt a good metaphor. Chimney builders dont work for 6-10 weeks to prepare to build a chimney. They also dont risk their lives dehydrating tf out of themselves before showing up to build the chimney. Or spend 10s of thousands of dollars to prep to build said chimney
@petenovak9461
@petenovak9461 Год назад
Chael, I love your stuff, but I have the exception that proves the rule "Wrestlers' never miss weight" Johny Hendricks . Missed weight at least 3 times, just off the top of my head...
@rdeh1678
@rdeh1678 Год назад
That's because they started testing for steroids and Johnny could not make 170 with out the secret juice
@domhealy9816
@domhealy9816 Год назад
Well said
@alexshtyn6336
@alexshtyn6336 Год назад
I believe it was about the weight, and I don't mind at all. At this level, you shouldn't allow yourself to miss by 4 pounds, I think it shows you don't belong with the big boys.
@michael95621
@michael95621 Год назад
On the one hand I am disappointed that Wonderboy didn't go on with the fight. On the other hand he made weight he did want he needed to do, the other guy didn't and Wonderboy is right the penalty isn't high enough for it. Also he has personal history where he lost to Till who also missed weight by 4 pounds. I'd be curious to know how many fighters who miss weight win the fight maybe broken down by favorite vs. dog and compared to favorite vs. dog stats where both made weight. I'd guess that the fighter who missed weight outperforms similar dogs/favorites who make weight. Maybe a fighter who misses weight should lose 10% of their purse per pound missed and also lose 1 point to start the fight.
@mmairet1
@mmairet1 Год назад
This is why fighters need a union…. He did his contractual duties, he should be compensated for work to that point.
@vercingetorixavernian8978
@vercingetorixavernian8978 Год назад
Bo and WB were “raised properly. They don’t curse, or throw people under the bus”… So basically the opposite of Chael? 😁☝️
@markmahnken6409
@markmahnken6409 Год назад
Chael has cleaned up his act quite a bit gotta give him credit.
@Jdavid1976
@Jdavid1976 Год назад
Wonderboy should get paid just like a contractor. Half when he makes weight, half after the match takes place. You don't make weight you get half ONLY if the other fighter agrees to continue with the bout.
@EvergreenHaze
@EvergreenHaze Год назад
Missing weight should be a fine/fee, with that money going to the opponent. If the fight continues, they still lose part of the purse. Missing weight is no where near strict enough… but this is coming from a wrestler 🤷‍♂️
@HoldenChandler
@HoldenChandler Год назад
Totally Repect Stephan Thompson, Really sick of these jokers not making weight. Chael Awesome!
@7empestTv
@7empestTv Год назад
Yeah these last few years I’ve seen more catch weight bouts then I ever have. No one should have to put up with their opponents not making weight
@Nico-yr8gp
@Nico-yr8gp Год назад
I've seen A side boxers throw fighters who missed weight out at the scale. Nothing wrong with that at all. Fighters need to do their job. Simple as that.
@busyb4283
@busyb4283 Год назад
What if he missed weight on purpose? Takes the pay cut or even gives wonderboy 100% of his pay but still beats WB. Now he has advanced his ranking well into the 10. The purpose of the weight miss would have given MP a significant advantage.
@WardenOfTerra
@WardenOfTerra Год назад
If you miss weight then it should be an automatic TKO loss, you don't get paid a single penny, and your opponent gets both purses.
@Jer-Michael
@Jer-Michael Год назад
Chales looks like he’s got a good buzz
@thejackel1844
@thejackel1844 Год назад
You stand with Wonder Boy ?, so do I !...
@GoodgriefMaltese
@GoodgriefMaltese Год назад
Damn, even Chael couldn't be contrarian when it comes to Wonderboy.
@bulldawgsgaming887
@bulldawgsgaming887 Год назад
ty for standing with the rt thing , dana is losing control
@thequantumvacuum
@thequantumvacuum Год назад
If Pereira hadn't intended to miss weight, that would have been a very obviously bad week for him but it wasn't. Look at his interviews. He felt great that week because he never intended to make weight. And I wish they made people fight at their natural weight.
@metricdabs
@metricdabs Год назад
Wonderboy was concerned about the weight as he alluded to in the Ariel interview. 4lbs means something to him.
@antonkarlsson1304
@antonkarlsson1304 Год назад
”Wrestlers always make weight” - DC at UFC 210
@jonnyfukyou127u27828
@jonnyfukyou127u27828 Год назад
Wonder Boy was brought up not dragged up. He can't do any wrong in my eyes (im a fan boy)
@olddirtypuppy9441
@olddirtypuppy9441 Год назад
I have a feeling Michel Pereira missed weight on purpose because they were fighting at high altitude. Michel is huge for 170 and his stamina is an issue because of how much he has to cut to make weight. Now add in the fact that this fight would have been at high altitude against an opponent that fights at a fast pace, I wouldn't be surprised if Michel made the decision to intentionally miss weight in order to have an advantage. I'm glad Wonderboy decided not to fight that cheater. But it sucks that the UFC is withholding his show money even though Wonderboy did nothing wrong. He was the professional that showed up and made weight.
@Dempsey222
@Dempsey222 Год назад
Witholding Wonderboy's show money is the kind of stuff that will make more guys go the Francis Ngannou route.
@bofasofa9399
@bofasofa9399 Год назад
Showing up means you show up to fight, not to make weight. I support Wonderboy and think he should be paid, but he pulled out and the fight was cancelled because of it. The fight was not cancelled by the UFC because of the weight. So, Wonderboy did not in fact show up to the fight. I still think he should get paid.
@EtherGaming604
@EtherGaming604 Год назад
​@@bofasofa9399He showed up to fight. He was ready, his opponent fucked it up. Stop coping.
@eazyridin7283
@eazyridin7283 Год назад
Preach On old dirty puppy!!! Preach On
@bleach7958
@bleach7958 Год назад
@@bofasofa9399showing up to fight means that you’re prepared in your skills and contract obligations. Idk how your insisting he didn’t show up to fight if he followed the basic fight principles.
@aisadal2521
@aisadal2521 Год назад
Justice for Wonderboy!
@dustinwalker8152
@dustinwalker8152 Год назад
Amen!
@MikeBronson515
@MikeBronson515 Год назад
😂
@davidkerr-gd2em
@davidkerr-gd2em Год назад
E
@moto-fl3rd
@moto-fl3rd Год назад
Let's take to the streets!
@coolbreeze3793
@coolbreeze3793 Год назад
Justice for wonderbread. 😠 🤦🏾‍♂️
@gustinn3509
@gustinn3509 Год назад
Wonderboy is a true pro and a banger to the extreme. Anybody who talks smack about this warrior is a complete tool.
@fishinvaders2289
@fishinvaders2289 Год назад
He got fuckin robbed. Can't help but feel for him.
@luther-pd5uy
@luther-pd5uy Год назад
Bumboy
@JaSon-wc4pn
@JaSon-wc4pn Год назад
Warrior 😂 He is a coward in real life. Hides behind big Teeeeeeeee. T's more of a fighter in real life. Regardless of whats happening in this travelling circus. Clown show. "Great distraction tho"
@setescientos
@setescientos Год назад
@@JaSon-wc4pn why are you worried about people fighting out of the ring? why would he have to fight anybody and not get paid to?
@NOT-A-Monolith
@NOT-A-Monolith Год назад
​@@JaSon-wc4pnnearly 100 fights for Wonderboy how many do you have
@ZWhiskey
@ZWhiskey Год назад
We all stand with WB. It’s cheating, breaking your word, and your contract when you miss weight.
@calvinmiguel4405
@calvinmiguel4405 Год назад
Stand with him and call out the UFC. Dana better pay the man when he comes back from vacation.
@mmacult5336
@mmacult5336 Год назад
UFC cant pay him, they paid me to troll this page already
@sinatraoce5339
@sinatraoce5339 Год назад
Jalin turner weighed in at 158 and Dan hooker still fought him and won and he’s in a similar situation as wonderboy. Wonderboy is good and all but he don’t got that killer mindset. Let’s not forget that tyron woodley also fought gastelum who weighed in 8lbs heavier and still won
@jsm126
@jsm126 Год назад
​@@sinatraoce5339Thank you. Excellent point.
@senLuno
@senLuno Год назад
​​@@sinatraoce5339only kids make comparisons men keep their word dont sign on the dotted line if you cant even cut weight especially considering you get paid to cut weight and fight its all part of the fight
@fleemos
@fleemos Год назад
The UFC needs to pay Wonderboy his show money. He went through camp, made weight, and showed up. Anything else is some number one fuckery.
@jasonmack2718
@jasonmack2718 Год назад
Agreed. The UFC needs to also set an example to the fighters missing weight. Make weight get paid, miss weight get nothing.
@Awol187z
@Awol187z Год назад
Wonderboy didn’t stop the show Michel Pierera stopped the show don’t blame the guy that did his job blame the one that didn’t.
@AveBerkley
@AveBerkley Год назад
Exactly. It’s insane that a few people are mad at WB like he didn’t show up on weight ready to fight.
@krompkap09
@krompkap09 Год назад
I stand with WB and more so after I met him on Saturday night at a mall in SLC, the guy was in such a rush but still took the time for a picture with me and my kids. Truly one special human and one of a kind fighter.
@samwho1731
@samwho1731 Год назад
You are bought off easily. Just cause he was 'nice' to YOU screw the fact he is, at the very least, NOT professional, and most probably, a CHEAT. But no, it is all about YOU. He was nice to YOU. LOL
@E2O10
@E2O10 Год назад
@@samwho1731 How is he a cheat? And how is he not professional?
@JauntyWhale
@JauntyWhale Год назад
​@@samwho1731you're embarrassing
@AveBerkley
@AveBerkley Год назад
@@samwho1731bro… what?
@DavidHernandez-te4mj
@DavidHernandez-te4mj Год назад
@@samwho1731Explain how he’s a cheat.
@Darksagan
@Darksagan Год назад
He was 3 lbs over and I bet you come fight time that goes to 20lbs or more. Now imagine him taking down Wonderboy and using that extra weight to hold him down. Wonderboy loses and sees his final push ended. I am with Wonderboy on this.
@robertathey8504
@robertathey8504 Год назад
Minutes after they step off the scale, they are chugging gallons of water and taking in a shit ton of carbs. Refueling strength and energy levels
@williamswilliams8164
@williamswilliams8164 Год назад
@@robertathey8504what’s your point?
@tarancehill651
@tarancehill651 Год назад
Not to mention he's ranked waaaay higher than Michel.
@TheGuyCalledX
@TheGuyCalledX Год назад
​@@robertathey8504the last few pounds are the hardest though
@seanmatthewking
@seanmatthewking Год назад
loses*
@gucciserg8093
@gucciserg8093 Год назад
Chael being humble by saying “I” when he knows damn well that he SPEAKS FOR US ALL for whatever he speaks
@geraldfriend256
@geraldfriend256 Год назад
We are legion. Thus we are all undefeated , indisputably.
@berosar
@berosar Год назад
@@geraldfriend256 ahoo ahoo ahoo
@miketalkstoomuch
@miketalkstoomuch Год назад
Holy shit you somehow have 825 comments on Chael videos
@bofasofa9399
@bofasofa9399 Год назад
@@miketalkstoomuch the fact that you know that is cringe
@rajahferrier7475
@rajahferrier7475 Год назад
You do not go against the word of Chael. Those who have are immediately visited by his enforcers, the 2 biggest arms in west linn
@swifty123
@swifty123 Год назад
If every fighter pulls out for their opponent missing weight, it could have a positive impact on every division. No weight bullies. Maybe even increase the % amount they lose from their purse for missing. And even a 3 strikes and you’re out rule where if you miss weight 3 times you get shitcanned
@aquatazer
@aquatazer Год назад
Very true. This is a good thought and I hope that’s the way the UFC goes.
@jon70082
@jon70082 Год назад
Never gonna happen ufc isn’t gonna can khamzat for missing wieght 3 times
@causewhynot6485
@causewhynot6485 Год назад
They will if no one cares to watch him fight and guess what most already forgotten and moved past ol kamshat
@CaptainSlapaDome
@CaptainSlapaDome Год назад
​@@harposrevenge3420how many times has WB missed weight in UFC? Honest question because I don't know.
@lukasmuller2390
@lukasmuller2390 Год назад
@@CaptainSlapaDome not once i think
@cmac6136
@cmac6136 Год назад
Thats crazy they didnt pay him. Its not his fault his opponent didnt make weight.
@lsf7591
@lsf7591 Год назад
I stand with Wonderboy too. When a guy doesn't cut weight and doesnt make weight, it gives him a huge advantage. Anyone who's ever cut serious weight knows that. If you think a guy should fight a guy who missed weight, why even have weight classes at all?
@pedrowoolson4273
@pedrowoolson4273 Год назад
Not a fan of fights getting scrapped but Wonderboy can do what he wants... and he's 100% in the right here. Punishment is not harsh enough for guys who don't make weight
@hugoperera1
@hugoperera1 Год назад
This is the first time I've heard Chael stand against the UFC and I am grateful
@garbennett4758
@garbennett4758 Год назад
Dana publicly told everyone that he would "LOOK AFER" Wonderboy when Till failed to weigh in....Wonderboy still fought him and was robbed in that fight, why would anyone do it a again!
@rocktown5014
@rocktown5014 Год назад
As a fellow Stephen myself, I'll stand with you as well.
@ryanhaverkamp4404
@ryanhaverkamp4404 Год назад
Thank you Stephen
@bruceleemuhammadali
@bruceleemuhammadali Год назад
👏
@lovetoedit
@lovetoedit Год назад
Me too ...I'm a Stephen :)
@snap-off5383
@snap-off5383 Год назад
You go by "steffun" or "steevun"?
@rocktown5014
@rocktown5014 Год назад
@@snap-off5383 What do you think, based on the context provided???
@re1v3r
@re1v3r Год назад
Chael's observation of being raised right is spot on. I grew up in Simpsonville with Stephen. His family is well known for Upstate Karate ever before Wonderboy had his illustrious Kickboxing career. He is the exact same person from grade school as you see on TV. 💯
@trevorduncan9580
@trevorduncan9580 Год назад
hey that's awesome. I've always wanted to meet him, he seems so genuine. A true stud guaranteed hall of famer. A TRUE warrior.
@brianleapard6729
@brianleapard6729 Год назад
Did you go to Hillcrest?
@re1v3r
@re1v3r Год назад
@@brianleapard6729 Hillcrest Rams, of course
@ryancohen419
@ryancohen419 Год назад
How can there be 2 fighers named Pereira on the same card and Chael still manages to say both their names different to eachother and both incorrectly
@TD1021-
@TD1021- Год назад
That's the gift of Uncle Chael that keeps on giving
@dannwright7461
@dannwright7461 Год назад
Because when Uncle Chael names you it is your new name.
@kylek1556
@kylek1556 Год назад
Missed weight should count as a Loss on the record books.
@RossTheNinja
@RossTheNinja Год назад
Absolutely.
@bojiden9830
@bojiden9830 Год назад
8:23 chael says hes making this story up but i literally happened to wonderboy. Wonderboy was ranked #1 & fought darren till. Till missed weight & won and then fought for the title
@ErosXCaos
@ErosXCaos Год назад
This is the UFC’s problem. They should have costs figured in for exactly this scenario. Not only did Michel try and cheat WB, now the UFC is too. They’re strategy is simple: scare fighters into taking fights.
@danseth5775
@danseth5775 Год назад
Michelle vs Wonderboy was my favorite match-up on 291 . When I first heard Michelle missed weight I immediately knew it was intentional done . Everyone knows Thompson is the nicest guy and assumed he would accept the weight advantage . Everyone knows the weight misses are intentional to gain an unfair size advantage , giving up 30% of one fight purse means nothing to them as long as they raise in the ranks for an eventual title fight. It's disgusting how the ufc blames the fighter who made weight because he wouldn't accept a fight against an obvious cheat
@seanmatthewking
@seanmatthewking Год назад
Even if it wasn't planned, there was definitely a voice in the back of his head telling him he could get away with it. When you are hurting, your mind spams excuses for you to quit.
@thiagohermes4806
@thiagohermes4806 Год назад
I don't think so, it was the fight of his life for Pereira and he couldn't screw up. He had problems cutting weight in the past and he couldn't miss it again. Now that he actually screw things up real bad he will start from scretch in the mid weight division.
@jrmiles5437
@jrmiles5437 Год назад
Wonderboy deserves his show money
@Razear
@Razear Год назад
You can't blame Wonderboy for a violation that his opponent committed, but the UFC should've done the right thing and given him his show money for making weight. The fact that he went through an entire training camp and cut the weight just to walk away with nothing is a slap in the face.
@nzdefrag
@nzdefrag Год назад
Well he did walk away with his pride, dignity and adoration of his thousands of fans. That doesn't pay the bills though...
@johnjelinek-g7b
@johnjelinek-g7b Год назад
What you missed Chael, is that four pounds over will let him gain back exponentially on fight night . So Wonder Boy follows the rules, the other clown refuses to go the extra mile and figures this will give him the ultimate chance to win the fight and he'll better his record at the cost of half his purse . Also, there always is perks for winning a fight .
@yettiman2817
@yettiman2817 Год назад
Wonderboy has always been a fave of mine.
@mostlypeacefulmisterputin
@mostlypeacefulmisterputin Год назад
*Pereira missed weight in September 2019 against Tristan Connelly, and then Diego Sanchez came out before their fight in 2020 and warned Pereira, if he didn't make weight, he wasn't fighting him either so obviously this isn't an isolated issue* *Like Chael said in the video, it’s not a big deal to anyone who has never had to cut weight* *I started wrestling at age 7 and participated in my first state tournament at 9 and even at 9 years old I had to weigh 65 lbs or I wasn’t allowed to compete, and that was 30 years ago* *MMA and the UFC have grown into the biggest and most watched sport the last few years, and these are adults who are being paid to be professionals and hold up their end of the deal* *Theres nobody from the UFC saying that it was a medical thing and the Drs didn’t feel it was safe for him to continue to cut, this strikes me as an apathy towards the rules that he feels aren’t a big deal and that’s the problem!*
@Dru2037
@Dru2037 Год назад
The UFC might make him move up now
@benjaminlennox4249
@benjaminlennox4249 Год назад
Mma the biggest and most watched sport???
@zeked4200
@zeked4200 Год назад
​@@benjaminlennox4249Yeah, that stuck out to me too. As much as I enjoy the UFC, I'm pretty sure the MLS does equal numbers...nevermind the MLB, NFL, NHL and NBA. It might be the biggest and most watched *combat* sport...but to claim any more than that is tone deaf to reality and kinda comical.
@LumpyAdams
@LumpyAdams Год назад
​@zeked4200 OP one of those guys that think the UFC is on par with the major sports in NA. Also probably one of those guys that think guys that fight in the UFC should get paid like the guys in the NFL.
@JCrownMusic
@JCrownMusic Год назад
"WONDERBOY!!!! PIERRE!!!!!" 0:00 😂😂😂
@nathanarievlis3985
@nathanarievlis3985 Год назад
It's another example of some of this countries biggest problems... the lack of accountability and consequences. I'm happy for Steve, but feel bad at the same time. You know he wanted to fight, but someone has to stand up for what's right. Guys will start caring when their wallets start taking a hit. Wonderboy showed up and fulfilled his obligation and got screwed.
@BloodDjimon614
@BloodDjimon614 Год назад
Just take the people who miss weight and suspend them from all competition for a year.
@Ajox191
@Ajox191 Год назад
You think it should be worse than taking 20%, of their purse money?
@sWrd_Master
@sWrd_Master Год назад
That's Bureaucracy for you.
@DakonBlackblade2
@DakonBlackblade2 Год назад
@@BloodDjimon614 This is a stupid disproportional punishment. The fine they get is already enormous, its enought. Wonderboy isn't being punished but he can't be payed for fighting when he didn't.
@Togairu
@Togairu Год назад
@@DakonBlackblade2 not paying him is punishing him when he has to pay coaches sparring partners etc
@trevorduncan9580
@trevorduncan9580 Год назад
EVERYONE in the MMA community stands with Wonderboy. He is a real one, a true warrior, and a gentleman. He is the last person anyone should try messing with because the amount of respect people have for him is IMMENSE. If wonderboy isn't paid we just might have to start a boycot.
@JayJay-tm7xw
@JayJay-tm7xw Год назад
A true warrior fights the guy 4lbs over. He knew the policies. 😅he had no issue with the policies prior to the very last minute when They went into effect.
@hourglas
@hourglas Год назад
​@@JayJay-tm7xw no. 😂😂 your obviously to dense to understand. So just no 😂😂😂😂😂 go eat crayons.
@AveBerkley
@AveBerkley Год назад
@@JayJay-tm7xwweird take to blame the guy that showed up on weight ready to fight.
@skindred1888
@skindred1888 Год назад
​@@JayJay-tm7xwif that's all it is...just cut the weight.
@NinjapowerMS
@NinjapowerMS Год назад
So people are siding with a chump who didn't make weight now? Casuals are an embarassment.
@theemperor4901
@theemperor4901 Год назад
We stand with Wonderboy!
@robertcabrera4760
@robertcabrera4760 Год назад
This sucks for Wonder Boy🤬💯But sometimes taking a stand for what a person feels is right is worth the loss. He will make it up somehow, good will come back to him. Good show Sir.
@joshuaturney7242
@joshuaturney7242 Год назад
I was disappointed not to get to see him fight, but I completely agree with him. Plus, we all enjoyed seeing Derick Lewis throw a flying knee haha.
@SayGen
@SayGen Год назад
The last 30 seconds were the best 30 secs. Exactly right Chael. Learn from history lest you repeat it!
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