Canon user forever. I once put a "knock off" battery in a 5 day old Canon DLSR and IT STUCK... Long pause on phone when I called tech support with no solution. Wife's sewing needle finally dislodged it. Have NEVER used anything but Canon batteries since. Great review. Have had 1DX MKII for a week. Very exciting to learn all of the new tricks this pony will do. Thanks.
incredibly good review. I'm a Canon to Sony bak to Canon guy here. 5D2--> C300 --> Sony a7sii --> 1dx ii. You hit every aspect perfectly. for me it was partly cause I owned L Lenses already. no matter the adpater or whatver, those lenses do not work 100% perfectly with a sony body. The ergnoomics. its why I loved my C300 so much, the body just feels soooo good. blew me away. even comapred to older pro bodies, this one just feels like they finally got it totally perfectly right in every small millimeter. I fucking loved my sony, the body custom buttons and build worked for me, it was a nice camera, but this is just another level, and the color issue with sony was a constant issue as well. Just loved the clarity of the footage and space saving low nice clear codec, but this is another level. I'm glad you talk about 1080 60p being good too. I just got this camera so I have yet to shoot a project with it but i like you was planning on doing alot of 1080 60p so i'm glad to hear its not too soft and the colors look great. I will shoot 4k and 60fps 4k but for major productions where budget can justify space. Ever since the 5D2 i thought somone would make that perfect DSLR cam, with the proper frame rates and decent video functions, i feel like its finally come. yet it needs peaking and small other this or that, but its so close that i'll let it be king. the autofocus is a relevation of filming. it cannot be expressed enough how great it is. When you do the flexi-zone auto focus tracking you can even change the speed of the focus shift. so I like to turn mine about -3 down slower, so all your focus pullls are just nice so slow, seductive and oh so smooth. adds a whole new dimension to one person doumentary film making.
I have a 5d mk 4 too but was a bit disappointed with the video quality. I'm new to shooting video though so don't have a lot to compare it to - only shot once with an FS7 (which was great, obviously). What are your thoughts on the 5d so far?
some of the information here about the time to fill 128GB card is incorrect! when you shoot 1080p/120fps the time limit is because it was intentionally limited by canon. the regular 25 fps frame rate is limited to 29:59 due to tax restrictions in the EU. this is why the 120 fps is limited to exactly 1/4 of it. (it takes four times as much pictures). it has nothing to do with the size of the card.
Danny Forte need some help.... in 5D mark iv there is also option for 100fps and it exports on 24fps. On 1Dx mark ii there is option for 120fps, it export on 24fps or 120fps ???
Danny Forte so does this mean you can shoot for a lot longer with out filling up a card when shooting 120fps? I feel like there's no way you can only record 7minutes total of 120fps before filling the card. Maybe you're limited to 7minutes recording takes, but no way it uses that memory. How the hell does Sam Kolder and many others who use 120fps film on these all day traveling?
60D bought used, been 17 below and 110 deg-100 percent salt air humidity...bought a d7200 which is brilliant..when IT wants to...long story short..my canon is my go to when it counts.getting the 1DXII later this yearr
Really enjoyed the way that you explained this camera. I am having some decisions to make as we are expanding our video offerings to clients. We have a Canon 5D Mark iii and are pretty happy with everything except focusing capabilities. Have added an external EVF but still not 100%. Everyone says to go to Sony but we have a few Canon lenses. After watching this, it seems the 1DX may be the solution we are looking for.
I'm looking to jump bank into a pro camera here by the end of the year. a few years ago I was shooting the D700 and D3x and loved those bodies. I took a break from photography however recently rediscovered my passion. I currently just use an Xt1 Fuji which is a great little camera however I do I feel it lacks that pro feel and performance. I am considering the switch or "upgrade" to a canon 5D iv however I would LOVE a 1Dx ii. I'm just not sure if the extra $$ is worth it to me. I consider this a long term investment as I call it the "mac book pro" principal. I've gotten a good solid 10 years out of my 2007 MBP before I retired it.... and I'm looking to do something similar in my next camera. I mainly used the camera for personal use however I do, do some special events and client work so having something to get the most out of the shot is worth it for me. My main career is NOT photography but I do like high end things. Being that the 5D iv just got the new update to shoot 1080 at I think 100fps or something like that... and that it's 30mp compared to the 1d at I think 20ish... would you say the 1Dx is worth the extra $$? I Don't need 14fps and would be happy with the 5D FPS but as I mentioned I'm just looking for something that I can carry out long term. I know tech is always evolving and I do plan to get more into video... Is the 1D 60fps @ 4k that important for the future.... Thanks for any feedback
Fantastic review and comparison. Efficient and thorough. I've been an A7sii (FE 2.8 24-70 GM lens) user for a little over a year. I primarily bought it for the low light and interviews and I've loved it. It's not perfect but do mostly corporate video for a university and almost everything is run and gun for more reasons than I'll go in to. For me, I can't see myself ever going back to a DSLR. There's too much I love about mirrorless. Your review, however, does give me a greater appreciation for Cannon's advances in video on their DSLRs. I still think that they're behind, but I'll be watching to see what they do in the next few years with the rumored mirrorless camera I keep hearing about.
I would not use knock off batteries with the 1DX Mark to simply because if anything goes wrong with the camera now you can't take it to Canon because they won't honor the warranty, I have to say very nice review I love my 1DX Mark ll
I did the exact same switch. Glad to be back in the canon camp everything works no hiccups. Basically giving up a few features of the Sony to gain a much better overall system and reliability. The ergonomics on the 1 DX ii are brilliant as well as the color. I will not be back in the Sony camp for a long time until they fix some of the issues they have. Color on the Sony was one of my biggest gripes. Then add up all the other small things the sony had wrong and the amazing features it offered were not worth the pains it caused.
Agreed completely! For some people, the few features are worth it to deal with all the Sony issues. But for me, it was too big a pain! Colors mostly. And little issues. Plus focusing! But yeah Canon is just stellar! Love the feel and functionality. Thanks for commenting!
Thanks,. As far as I can tell, you are the only one who speaks about how the camera feels, that feel is important, the "smallness" is not decisive. Canon Color seems the MOST pleasing right out of the camera. No, I don't want to do MANDATED color correcting . The shots look beautiful, right out to the camera--especially skin tones. That other toss off: "Fixing it in post is a sanp!" I don't want to have to do snap color correcting to correc what should be "perfect" And, Oh, did we mention the Sony is smaller?
Haha exactly! The feeling is more important to me than most people I guess. And right, saving time by not having to do much color correcting in post is fantastic!
Great video! Very helpfull input. Like the fact you incorporated some stock video/photo did some comparisons and even did some testing of your own. Very helpful, thank you. 😊
Great review Kidron! I'm glad you waited to do a comprehensive review with all your thoughts vs. just a something abridged. Now you just have to convince Becca to switch. ;)
+Jon Yoder yeah for sure!! The d750 is impossible to beat on value for a photography camera IMO. But I've filmed with Nikon before and I just don't like it! I think Canon is designed better for video and Nikon is designed better for photography.
Hi! That's a really great video you made, kiddos, keep it up! I was wondering if since this video you tried out the mark iii and maybe other cannons, like R5 for example. Anyways, your video was very clear without being boring, good job & thanks
I swear it is!! Haha a lot of those shots had really great light, but I use a custom color profile that really makes it pop like that...didn't even touch it in editing! The camera adds the contrast and saturation. If I still had the project on my hard drive, I'd screen shot it for you!
This is classic, I did the exact same thing as you about a month ago. So glad I did, the sony while it has a pleasing picture was such a frustrating camera! Its funny to think I thought I was crazy for doing this.... I love the 1dx2, such a painful purchase ($10.5K here in NZ) but its a great tool that should last and prove its worth over the next few years of shooting. Its already been drenched in snow and rain, -20 temps don't have to worry about it. I work in the mountains, in the cold the little sony batteries only lasted 15mins!! Ended up having to jerry-rig a USB bank to power the camera, not a good look on a pro shoot...
despite 1DX2 being 3 years old it's still the best camera on a market to this day. the only thing that stops me from getting it is that I will also need lot more hard drives, brand new powerful PC and the fact that I don't really need the performance of the beast )
I agree man 100%, I sold all my 6D cameras, and bought 3 A7Sii's all my blacks are grainy, green and yellows no matter what. low light is great, but all my weddings I bring lights and on Canon I could never go over 1250 ISO... no matater the profile, or rate, or those "slogs" my blacks are grainy, colors are noisy... even at ISO 100. now im stuck with dead paper weight
Very nice review---concise---and clear...and I couldn't agree more about Canon color. Sony made me crazy to get skin tones right as well as other issue. Canon color=amazing.
I really appreciate the comparison between the different frame rate settings and how much memory each will use. I'm currently considering the 1DX II or the 5D IV. The video and audio settings definitely will help also! I've been shooting on my 7D for 7 years, and it's time to upgrade! What video editing software do you use and like best? I'm excited to check out some more of your videos. I liked this one and subscribed. Also, have you tried out the Devin Graham Glidecam? It looks pretty awesome from the interview they did with him when it was first released!
Hey thanks for watching! Glad the video helped. I still have a 7D as my C cam. So durable. I use Premiere for editing. Love it. Yes, please check out some more of my main video on this channel I'm commenting with! This is where I put my actual work. Yes, I use the DGS Glidecam. It's awesome.
In 2021 I will continue using this as my main Camera body. The latest miiI version hasn't enough to offer for an upgrade for my needs. The 1DX MII is my PREFFERED still camera. The images are amazing so why upgrade to basically the same camere body. I also use 5d mii,5Dsr,5d miv and two 7d mii bodies.
That is one of my thoughts about the 1DC Mark ii too .... It would also be nice if they made it full-frame 4k, and it had thru-the-eyepiece live-view.... I suspect that the body of the 1DC ii (if they actually make one) might be somewhat different.... Also, I;m curious: what are your thoughts on actually LOWERING the sensor resolution to allow full-frame 4k? ... it would be more optimized for video if the sensor resolution were like 12MP, -- and the low-light performance would be astounding
Dude great review. I was just thinking about the log thing and how my film buddies are always trying to convince me how important it is to shoot with a real camera and shoot in log then record in raw. Their footage always falls way short of my 1dc with its 85 f12 in native canon straight out of the box setting . Going to Grab the mark II tomorrow for the focus and 4k 60p
So is 60fps limited to 15 min too?... Anyway, it doesn't matter to me much; who is going to do even a 7 minute shot with such a camera? Certainly not with anything narrative (or even most documentaries)....
If you don't need 4k - is the 5d mk4 comparable (sensor, resolution, colours, look)? - I do documentaries for german TV and 422 Full HD via HDMI is good enough for me.
1080p 120fps lets you record 46min on 128gb card The 7min limitation is just matching the 30min of other formats because the video is actually 4s for 1s
I was thinking about getting de Mini Ursa, but I don´t think it´s a camera for me. For what I need, this canon does, and I don´t need to buy lots of gadgets to use it.
Totally dope, man. Thanks so much for this! Truly stunning footage! I've rented and really dig the C300 II. That camera is like a dream come true. It literally has everything I've ever wanted, in one small package. Truly to die for image quality. The 1DX II seems to be almost every bit as good image and focus wise, minus the lack of NDs and XLR. Have been considering it. Could you consider putting up more Sony vs Canon 1DX II footage?
Thanks! Glad you liked it! Yeah, the C300ii is fantastic...but no stills! If that's important to you, 1Dxii might be way to go. But if XLRs are more important, maybe the C300. I would put up more Sony v Canon, but I don't any Sony footage on my computer anymore, those projects are in the archives now! Haha
I agree, canon colors are so much better than anything. My only problem is how long can you shoot for with this camera? Does it have a DC in? sometimes I need to shoot for up to an hour and so I may have to go with something else as a result. but this price point is perfect I don't want to have to go with the c200-c300 just for something like DC power. if the c200/c300 even does that.Thanks for any feedback.
Not a mention of the Fuji XT3 in a comparison list of sony AS7 and Canons and this concerns me. I am seeing a lot of you tubers talking about $3000-$5000 camera that is being matched pound for pound in spec with the XT3 for a fraction of the cost .
nice rounded vid. about the build on Sony: yes not as solid as Canon 1D series but i have dropped both my a6000 and a7r with only cosmetic damage (the a7r fell down about 5 tiled steps outside. thought the sensor would be in bits for sure). the a6300 has yet to be dropped but has a better feel to it already. they've gotta bring out the a9 sometime right? autofocus in video: really hope Sony gets cleverer with face detection and subject as the pulling on the slow mode is great and looks very similar to the Canon. think this is both a testament to Sony's handycam and Canon's consumer camcorders lineage. Panasonic might not be able to translate that info to their cameras.
I sold in 2017 all my Sony gear (Sony A7RII, Sony A6500) - the good thing is with just a very limited loss. And I moved back to a Canon 1DX Mark II and Canon 7D Mark II for Wildlife - Action - Sport. I see this today as an experience with Sony. Not all was bad with Sony (especially the IQ wasn't bad on the A7RII) but all the things around the Sony ecosystem simply were annoying and sucked. This included the basically not-existing customer service, the basically not-existing long telephoto lens lineup (ok, there is now out a 400mm 2.8 at 12k USD so what? For Wildlife you need more) and (that's a topic going across all the Sony bodies) the Build Quality simply sucks. I learned also painfully that Sony does not repair their own cameras, so when I filed in my Sony A7RII for a repair of the mechanical shutter it disappeared for several months and for 1.5 months Sony did not know where my camera is. A temporary replacement was also not provided. This is what nobody needs. For me Sony is just a toy camera system, just the Sony Marketing department deserves a Nobel price for their excellent job - Sony is a hyped marketing trick. For me: never Sony again!
You can modify sony profiles and get the great dynamic range without grading :). Also there is no screen of any camera that is offering that much detail as the electronic viewfinders. And yes the dynamic range of the canon DSLRs is way lower than even on sony crop cameras with Log... Otherwise yes 4K 60p is awesome.
Great review! I'm actually surprised how good the image is for video. I've been looking at the A7sII, and I like it a lot, but the colors look muddled and flat to me, or just off. This camera is putting out some pretty damn good footage for a full frame dslr.
While I agree that canon colors are better, I can't help but feel it's more of a lack of knowing how to adjust the settings on the Sony a7sii. The eoshd profile is a really good starting point to fit what you want. Not to mention Brandon Li. No offense kidcanon, but I don't think you researched your options very well when it came to finding a solution for the a7sii color. I absolutely wish that canon would release a camera that could do 120 fps 1080p (with no crop if it's s35 sensor) for $4,500 or less, but let's be real, after the mark iv, I think canon is the new apple in the camera industry. Maybe in 6 years the price of canon c100 iii or 1DXii will drop $1,500. But I can't wait that long or afford that for my first camera. To be honest I really hope the canon c100 iii will have 120fps at 1080p for that price, I really do.
Low light.... talk about AF in low light... is the best I ever seen or used!! You can focus almost in the dark with this camera! PS I have some trouble with 'oil' on the sensor, which I have to look if that keeps happening, because I need to clean the sensor way more then the 5DmkIII For photography, this is simply the best Canon ever :) In a sense, it was build for high speed photography...
Great + interesting post (even though I do not shoot videos myself)... Now, if you look at photography only, what is the maximum usable ISO you would use, where you do not de-noise the image before handover?
This video is amazing! I've watched so many 1dx ii reviews since I'm really considering buying one. You covered all the exact questions I still had. And even taught me a few things about the audio signal. Thank you! And nice film shots! Are you using a glidecam or a different stabilizer?
hey Kidron, really nice review on the camera. I only don't understand that someone can spend $10-15K on a camera system, but can't afford to buy original Canon batteries... I have a much older 1ds mark 3 (only for stills) and love it, but would not buy off-brand battery. Have fun with this monster :)
Foolishly is did exactly the same, believed the hype, wanted the so called latest tech... boy what a mistake, i to have and am in the process of selling a A7s2 and A7r2 and bunch of lenses and re buying 1dxmk2 and a 5d4... never again will i listen to hype. Canon is well ermmm, simple it just works !
Hi Kidron, I'm a Canon 5DM3 shooter, with some video also considering the 1DXM2, looking forward to seeing some more work and samples. So compared with the SonyA7SII does the quality vs the large file size make it worth it. I'm told compression is much better on the Sony but if you need 4k@60fps can't beat the Canon1DXM2. thanks for sharing,
Hey! Yeah, I definitely recommend the 1Dxii. The file sizes are large but worth it for the quality in my opinion. If you're doing any photography it's worth it over the a7s. And 4K 60 is amazing!
Awesome review/thoughts on the switch. I am currently debating switching from the a6500 to the Canon 1dx 2. Not sure if its a smart move tbh lol. I primarily do video. Also had another question for you. Does the 1dx2 have auto focus when shooting 120fps in 1080? The GH5 for example does not. so wanted to double check