I Switched From My UniFi WiFI 6 Access Point To Alta Labs... 

As a brand new player in this space, it was imperative that we eliminate as many barriers as possible to introduce easier, faster, and yes, even more secure WiFi to our customers. We knew that some would balk at the idea of cloud-only, but if you look around, much of the industry is going more cloud instead of less. We have built our cloud from the ground up with modern, scalable, redundant, and lightweight technologies that will guarantee our cloud to be available throughout the lifetime of our products. Our cloud gives our customers a plug-and-play solution that eliminates the hassle, overhead, and cost of setting up and maintaining an on-site controller. We truly believe that once you have tried our cloud platform, you will never look back. That being said, while we feel that most customers will be well-served by our cloud, we have mentioned already that we are working on an on-premise solution for those that demand it. However, as we have done with our Access Point and Switch products, we do not want to release it prematurely. We believe that our customers deserve an on-premise solution that works just as well as our cloud.

No local controller? No thanks. Not leaving my clients to "the hope" they don't drop support in 3-5 years or go out of business, etc.

😂 when you said ''cloud only controller" I went straight to the comments. Was not disappointed

You lost me at clound only

They looked at UniFi and went the wrong way! We want LESS cloud, not MORE cloud!

Cloud only? pass. When those bad bois get support dropped for them you're SOL.

I stopped the video immediately after "cloud only". Also, perfect shirt to wear when looking at these guys, too! 😂

"cloud only" aaaaaaaaaaand I'm out.

Cloud only? No thanks!

Would buy these but they’re cloud only :(

No local management? LOL😂

Cloud only. How lovely. Now I'm off to hug and kiss some venomous snakes.

Why on earth would anyone want to rely a cloud controller to control their own local network gear?

The multi password feature is neat, compared to spamming the wlan list with different network IDe. Somewhat like Enterprise-Login with vlan profiles.

"cloud only" hahahahahaha

Cloud only, dang. Guess I'll keep looking for other UniFi alternatives

Not sure when these companies are going to get it through their heads that when we own something, we want to be able to have full control over it and not rely on what may later become a subscription model for renting back the use of our own paid for equipment. Unless I can control it completely in house where I'm not relying on it working unless connected to someone else's cloud, not even remotely interested.

Cloud only though? No Bueno big guy..

No local control is a nonstarter without local control I wouldn't even consider this device.

Appealing features, very competitive price, with a gigantic deal breaker... the cloud only aspect. As an Enterprise, I would never use them just for that alone.

Please do a saturation test with lots of connections

I’m good bro

Sorry, but cloud only = instant pass regardless of anything else.

What happens if they lose and regain power without an internet connection (no access to the cloud controller)?

Lol. "Their cloud only" , but your shirt.. ha.

Cloud only, you have paper weights if support is dropped, interesting but not for me.

companies need to understand that “cloud” specially when enforced is not a feature, it’s more like a stay away from me warning

Wearing a perfect shirt for reviewing a cloud ☁️ product

It sounds like they are using NAT as a firewall.

Appropriate shirt

Cloud only eh, have they not watched your channel before?

The whole cloud only & SaaS move is devs trying to fool sysadmins. I hate this trend is taking over IT & cybersecurity. I knew a dev who quit a faang job for a startup in SaaS. It's hard pass for anyone who doesn't want to be at the mercy of a cloud company.

I am interested but without a controller I control, it isn't my network.

A Comparison for the access points?range, users etc?

Just because people like the cloud, doesn't mean its a good idea. It just makes Alta a massive target for hackers. Having control of switches and also having "content filtering" capabilities in place provides the ultimate network snooping platform. If you're not too big to fail, your first hack will be your last.

I had problems with Meraki AP where they would reboot if they lost connection with the cloud controller for a short period of time (couple seconds). Do they stop working if they lose connection to the controller or they keep working?

Cloud only…. Oh ho

Are those mediatek or Qualcomm based?

cloud only ..., no thank you

How do they handle spikes in traffic? 5+ people jump on and start Streaming Data / Syncing OneDrive / Video Calls.

hard pass.

Yeah, cloud only is just a straight up deal breaker. Ideally I want more than just on prem, I want an opensource onprem controller application so I know I won't be screwed on licensing down the road.

Cloud only in vital infrastructure, good one! that has newer gone wrong, ever.. ;) (in case you missed the sarkasm, F that in a big way)

Cloud controller? The biggest insult to network security in ages.

There are serious problems with this strategy. UniFi really has this nailed with a mix of local/cloud. The problem with a solution of cloud only is that there are environments we interact with that are not direct internet-facing (they VPN to an out-of-country home office/etc) and while using cloud works.. kind of... it defeats the point of what they are accomplishing for their warehouse. Cloud only management creates a narrow fail-footprint. This is no good for many of my clients.

I stopped listening when you said Cloud Only. Hard pass.

Different networks by passwords looks cool. Not really needed, but feels good. However, if Unifi adds this as well, then this advantage is gone. There isn't really a competition with UI's ecosystem, it's simply far more advanced and one single good product won't move customers to a new brand

Does the wifi still work locally if the internet is down?

We need the local controller

Don't even waste your time with ANY device that is cloud only. Companies who do this, in this day and age, deserve to go out of business before they can even start. I'm surprised Tom even made this Short. I expected better from Tom, he should know better.

Tom, I saw that Photo and almost Died!! You look like Joe Biden giving a speech! Back in 1842 when I was the President of PfSense, I said to Unifi baeasdjhgbsfdgihifgag ;)

Eww, cloud only

This video was released 8 months ago. Where is the on prem controller?

Are you being paid to test them or are you just testing them for the free goodies? I read they require a login or cloud something.

The cloud option should have been just that, an option and not the sole launch solution for the controller. Oof. Yeah, the controller itself may be more reliable operating as a cluster of VMs in a datacenter but we all know the least reliable part of any network is that connection to the outside world. The internet drops and when that happens no access to the controller. The cloud is good for other things, just not management of end point network devices.

All anyone heard was cloud only. That’ll sit on the shelf

Price comparison vs UniFi?

Can you test if they're mediatek or qualcomm? It matters coz even if they're cloud only, they can at least be reflashed with Openwrt when they're eol

I would never consider any 'cloud controlled' service.

No local? No go.

"cloud only" is how you zero out your potential as a company.

Cloud only my main reason for not using these.

Cloud only is NOT something for me. I WISH more people would stay away from cloud solutions like these.

Cloud only? What planet do they live in? No thanks.

need new access points, does it connect to the cloud? yes = immediate disqualification.

No local controller is a big No for me.

Devices with a subscription fee or a requirement for cloud connection is a no go for me

Cloud only 💀 gtfo, will never have such devices on my network. There's so many things that can go wrong here. We use cloud-only Aruba crap at work and after 4-5 years these APs will end up in a landfill. Awful, awful trend in networking.

No local controller, no thanks.

I know it's already been said, but.. no self hosting options and always on telemetry is an absolute non-starter. Hard pass.

Nah, I'll stick to my Engenius APs with built in controllers and have been working perfectly.

LAN port is 1 Gbps ONLY

Cloud only? Diamond hard pass...

Sorry... no local access is a deal-breaker also requiring an 'APP' to setup of configure is also a deal breaker. MY REQUIREMENTS: Must completely configurable from either from a hardware jack or through a web portal hosted by the device itself. I should never have to leave configuration access open to the internet. or be reliant upon a 3rd party. If the company goes under tomorrow there is no reason the device should be a brick.

Cloud only.... No sorry -1 points.

No local hosting. Not even considering this as an option. I head cloud only and stopping listening and posted this. Atla learn from Omada NOT unifi..

@lawrencesystems when do you intend to release a full review video? I just switched my UniFi AP’s for the AP-6 PRO…. And I must say I’m really satisfied so far. They indeed outperform the UniFi AP’s (U6-LR’s). In had some quirks with my UniFi AP’s (the U6-LR as well with the nano-HD’s) that have vanished as I installed the Alta Labs. So far so good.

Cloud only I'll have to pass

No local controller? No thanks I'm good 🙂

entirely cloud based, absolute NO

would that password to vlan thing be possible with ubiquity via radius?, seen a similar idea done with mikrotik access points

More cloud is only for the gullible. Sure that's the big business, but don't expect nerds to promote your stuff. There are smarter companies out there that allow to chose. Being able to host locally also makes your cloud stuff more trustworthy.

No local control? Byeeeeeeeeeeee😂

Cloud only? What a joke 😂

LOL Cloud only. Hard pass.

Nah, I’ll stick with Unifi 👍🏻

No local controller ? it's a big NO NOOOOO

No local ? No thanks!

Cloud only? No thanks

Dear alta labs, if something happens at my home I can my old Linksys WRT54G and have a baseline that work. Without your cloud, I'm fucked. Never do a cloud only, ok? You want to provide a local controller in bonus, go for it. But cloud only? hard pass. have a nice day.

I would never buy such cloud-crap