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I-TALIAN wiring makes my brain SOLLEVATORE!!! 

Ross the Oliver Man-Rieckers Farms
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Here we start to fix some electrical problems on several of the 1365s
 I’m Ross aka “The Oliver Man”. I farm with Oliver and White tractors here in beautiful Southern IN. I have over 30 Oliver and White Tractors in my collection (plus a few other colors). Please Like and Subscribe for more Oliver and White Videos!
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@hacc220able
@hacc220able Год назад
thanks for sharing
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@timothykoller5210
@timothykoller5210 Год назад
Great video I am sure you will get them figured out some stuff just takes time.
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Thanks Timothy!
@andypreston1
@andypreston1 Год назад
In Scotland Ross FIAT is short for ( Fix It Again Tomorrow ) and I am sure you see why 😂👍
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
🤣 I understand for sure!!
@case4006
@case4006 Год назад
When we're done with the 1365s we should start the forklift project lol great video's
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
I know, I really need to use that forklift so I really should get to that project 🤣
@pagrainfarmer
@pagrainfarmer Год назад
Grounds can drive you crazy. I changed the lights on my combine a couple years ago, and last year they quit working. I messed with it for 5 hours (and multiple adult beverages) until I figured out I had a bad ground to the cab.
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
The strange thing about this one is it has this extra relay to make the light on the dash come on, because the light is grounded and you can’t have it work that way with the alternator. I can’t explain it easy but I understand how it works now.
@dougsturgill1356
@dougsturgill1356 Год назад
As always,I enjoy you videos every day
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Thanks Doug!
@DonWelter
@DonWelter Год назад
A major case of gremlins!!! Not unlike Pat Brady on the old Roy Rogers series with Nelliebelle the jeep that had a mind of it's own LOL
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
🤣 thanks Don!
@edmikula9637
@edmikula9637 Год назад
All the connections are corroded, you need to get pliers and a wire brush and take apart that fuse block and clean everything.
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
The problem on this tractor is the alternator you’ll see in the upcoming videos.
@carlfoltz4244
@carlfoltz4244 Год назад
The alternator may be the problem. The rectifiers may have been shorted, causing the magic smoke. A new or rebuilt alternator may solve the problem.
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
It is the problem. You’ll see in an upcoming episode. Thanks Carl!
@CoTOliver
@CoTOliver Год назад
Ross, if you can't find a new relay for that era, a modern day relay should work in its place. They all have the same number coding 85,87,86, 30. If you look up relay and the number coding it will tell you what does what. Good luck, enjoying the Fiats
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
I got a regulator but never looked into the relay. I’ll check it out. Thanks!!
@stephenheyes4324
@stephenheyes4324 Год назад
Ross start at battery ground and work your way along cleaning every ground wire could be your problems are just dodgy grounds
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Yeah, This one is strange because it has that relay to trigger the light because the light is grounded instead of hooked to switch power. It took a while but I think my mind is finally wrapping around it 🤣🤣🤣
@corydriver7634
@corydriver7634 Год назад
This is where a cheap set of colored pencils come in handy. It’s a lot easier to visualize the color rather than read the color.
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Yeah, I need to do that. I think you suggested that last time and that’s a great idea.
@corydriver7634
@corydriver7634 Год назад
@@rosstheoliverman I probably did but my memory ain’t what it used to be, sorry for the repetitive comment s. My wife calls me out on that all the time 😂.
@leslietaylor9384
@leslietaylor9384 Год назад
Crank the tractor and put a voltmeter across battery red lead to positive and black lead to negative post to see if it is charging
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Yeah, it’s not charging. I didn’t use the voltmeter but you’ll see in the upcoming video that they alternator is the problem
@derekgilbert2884
@derekgilbert2884 Год назад
Ross Fancy Pants keep up luxury fiat and yugo tractors. Now need 50 west craft beer with Grey Poupon hang around with High Class Farmers 😅😅😅😅😅. Great video's keep up good work thanks again Ross.
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
🤣 thanks Derek!
@AsitShouldBe
@AsitShouldBe Год назад
I think you should do this test: check if the battery goes to 13,6-14V when the engine run; in this case the alternator is fine and the dashboard light is nothing to worry. If the voltage is much lower you got bad alternator or bad wires .. good luck😂
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Thank you!!
@johnkissack5295
@johnkissack5295 Год назад
Wiring can be so aggravating you made a good call just to walk away from it and come back and it will make sense. When is your school bus work begin?
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
It began 2 weeks ago 😭
@tomlallman8772
@tomlallman8772 Год назад
I was just wondering if you have a combine ready to go
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
I need to get on that project. Probably do it the morning I need it 🤣
@AsitShouldBe
@AsitShouldBe Год назад
Yes, g stand for giallo(yellow)😂 I think here in Italy every parts are still avaiable for these Fiat tractors, you could swap the alternator with a new one with integrated dashboard pin light and bypass all this existing wiring. Or.. you could do a new wiring😂 bye bro.
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
That’s cool they still offer most stuff. Thanks for watching!!
@gleanerk
@gleanerk Год назад
Sometimes walk away is better, or you end up in 🤯
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Absolutely 🤣
@apollorobb
@apollorobb Год назад
Wish i was closer id come help you with the electrical stuff i pretty fair at it . See
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
I’m saving you for whenever my Baler monitor messes up. Maybe you can figure it out 🤣
@krissyb1980
@krissyb1980 Год назад
Momma Mia itsa Mario the Fiat Man. The trouble with those wires is it looksa like a bowl of spaghetti. Pour some sauce on it and call it a day 😂😂 Naw but really I enjoyed the video. You'll get them all fixed up and they'll be great little tractors.
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
🤣🤣🤣 Thanks!!
@frankdeegan8974
@frankdeegan8974 Год назад
Does the yellow wire show it is good? Are all the terminals clean? Does the alternator show it is charging? Are all the ground straps in place and connected? DC is the biggest pain!
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Thanks Frank!!
@shawnmarvin6348
@shawnmarvin6348 Год назад
Wiring of ANY kind makes my head spin 1st that's quickly followed by a migraine that lasts for about a week! Thanks for all your content!
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Thanks Shawn!!!
@samuelashton4344
@samuelashton4344 Год назад
Stay away from internet . I went through 2 Chinese ones. Got a good one at NAPA.
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Yeah, sometimes that stuff is even cheaper than the cheap stuff 🤣
@michaelsheeder148
@michaelsheeder148 Год назад
Ross you always seem to get yourself into some pretty good situations to try to figure out with your Italians 🤣🤣🤣 thanks Michael
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
🤣🤣🤣 thanks Michael!
@MikeJensen-wo7oh
@MikeJensen-wo7oh Год назад
Do you have days with 'nothing else to do'?? Judging by the number of repair videos you produce, I'd say those days are rare at best.
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
I don’t have any free time 😭
@darweb3417
@darweb3417 Год назад
Carry a small note pad to help with the old memory; helps stay organized. @@rosstheoliverman
@waggtech4883
@waggtech4883 Год назад
There’s times that a ohmmeter/voltmeter sure is handy…
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Yeah, I really should’ve got it out of the truck 🤣
@tomharrington1393
@tomharrington1393 Год назад
I hated electrical problems back in the day when I was a decent shade tree mechanic. 👍👍
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
It’s so much fun 🤣
@73buickman
@73buickman Год назад
My old buicks wiring strains my brain power every thing
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
🤣🤣🤣
@opasvintagegarage
@opasvintagegarage Год назад
Ross, thanks for your videos, I really enjoy them!! I'm glad I'm not the only guy with part interchange problems 😂!
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching!!!
@jonathancrissinger2301
@jonathancrissinger2301 Год назад
I'm not good with wiring either, so I can't criticize you. You did better than I, because I would have had a few choice sounds, hahahaha.
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
🤣 thanks Jonathan!
@darweb3417
@darweb3417 Год назад
Remember, remember: every ground connection via the machine's metal is always suspect. Wiring old machinery means (to me) running a separate ground wire for everything from a central ground point, aka eventually the ground side of the battery. Only use a direct ground wire, or hot wire; from the actual battery for your test light to get consistent test results. If that means a 30 foot wire on the test lamp, so be it. Rusty sheet metal, rusty screw connections, etc. simply are not reliable and can lead you down a rabbit hole where their is not rabbit. :)
@jonathanwolf3370
@jonathanwolf3370 Год назад
I like bunnies
@jonathanwolf3370
@jonathanwolf3370 Год назад
But yes more times than not there's no rabbit 🐰
@darweb3417
@darweb3417 Год назад
Me too; brought a many of them home to the dinner table. @@jonathanwolf3370
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
🤣🤣🤣
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
Ross returns to driving school bus. Ross gets depressed. Coincidence?
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
It’s the lack of being able to drink that causes extreme sadness 🤣
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
@@rosstheoliverman so one causes the other. Dann kids
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
@@ThatOliverGuyChris 🤣🤣🤣
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
@@ThatOliverGuyChris kids cause accidents and accidents cause kids.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
@@rosstheoliverman 😂😂😂
@bigun447
@bigun447 Год назад
Do like most tractor collectors do. Put a Delco one wire alternator. Maybe if you want the Fiat look, get a MoPar alternator and regulator from the early 80s and put it on. You are dealing with it "When it works it is fine, but the other 99% of the time it is not fine." Here is my thought on that sensing wire and relay. When you turn the switch on the voltage potential of battery 12v sees a ground at one of the diodes in the alternator and closes which turns the light on. Then when the alternator starts charging the voltage within the indicator light ground point becomes at the same voltage value as the battery and now you have a balanced voltage on both sides of the coil in the simple relay and that causes a stalemate as far as voltage goes and the coil loses current required to energize it and relaxes the relay causing the points that the current to the indicator light if provided to now be an open circuit. You might remember the old early, lets say early alternators, that the light would be on when you turned the key on. Then as you started the car the light would get dimmer and dimmer and then go out. That was simply because the battery voltage was on one side of the bulb and grounded in the alternator so it lit. As the alternator (Or generator) output voltage equaled the battery voltage to each side of the bulb the bulb would quit lighting. If say the belt was slipping enough that the alternator or generator was just on the edge of starting to be producing less voltage than the battery voltage the light would start to come on dim and even flicker if the charging unit was starting to charge but then the load on the belt would make it again drop charge and the bulb would come back on. This is a long thesis about what might be the design of the Italians, who were always known to apply fancy architecture for anything that could be made in a rather simple way. The only more screwed-up electrical systems are the Lucas, The Prince of Darkness, ones the Brits had.
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
You’ll see in an upcoming episode, that’s what I do to the other tractor. Thanks Gary!
@Kronkus36Outdoors
@Kronkus36Outdoors Год назад
I remermber my dads stopped charging too, but it ended up being the voltage regulator
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
This one’s got a brand new voltage regulator so it’s not my first suspect. However we all know that the parts of today aren’t as good as the original.
@Kronkus36Outdoors
@Kronkus36Outdoors Год назад
I'd switch it out just to be sure about it, just in case @@rosstheoliverman
@user-rn3rd9gc8x
@user-rn3rd9gc8x Год назад
I'll stand on my blue mark, and then I'm going to say hello to each one of you...
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
All I know is some guy stopped me on the street and asked what’s red and bad for your teeth? He said a brick. I couldn’t figure it out and then it hit me.
@zacharylindsay2178
@zacharylindsay2178 Год назад
You tube order wiring my tractor amp guage ingtion switch head light switch
@jaoutdoors46
@jaoutdoors46 Год назад
Do you have a 1450?
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Not yet but I’m working on a possible trade.
@dennisfoltz7880
@dennisfoltz7880 Год назад
That relay looks like the relay that is on my 72 chevy truck for the horn . My 67 truck has the same one . Still available at part store.. It was labeled 30. 87 . Can't remember all the numbers. There were 4 terminals each had a number. Seems all relays are labeled with the same numbers .2 terminals are the load side ,2 are the control side
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
I’ll have to check that out and see if they’re similar. Thanks!
@davidroberts3489
@davidroberts3489 Год назад
Glad to see you’re dinking on what may end up being my tractor. Did the pictures come thru for you on the email?
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Yes. Let me get it fixed up more better and then maybe we can swap.
@MaclearieFarms
@MaclearieFarms Год назад
I’m related I go pulling with my farmall H every once and a while and my buddy tells me he thinks Oliver’s should be in a class of there own because they always win I told him it’s because of the 6 cylinders
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
They do pretty good in the pulls!
@jasonandholliehuffman8291
@jasonandholliehuffman8291 Год назад
Wiring just sucks and foreign wiring sucks worse.
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Also having a small brain I have found does not help 🤣
@darweb3417
@darweb3417 Год назад
I know, I know. I keep hearing that old ugly line that size matters.@@rosstheoliverman
@73buickman
@73buickman Год назад
Wiring is fun not
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Agree!
@scottm-rw1og
@scottm-rw1og Год назад
Hahaha demons
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
🤣
@paulprillwitz9901
@paulprillwitz9901 Год назад
👍👍👍👍
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Thanks Paul!
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