I Talk About Super Mario 64 DS So I Can Pay My Rent 

Fun fact: Mario's model in the DS version has a lower poly count than the original model. They just got better at modelling, like a whole lot 😅

i never realized how strong the DS was and how weak the n64 was

Weirdly enough, my most fond memories from Super Mario 64 DS was the multiplayer. Despite being repetitive, me and my siblings would play that for hours. I clearly remember always beelining to the Wario hat and attempting to throw my siblings off cliffs.

putting this on repeat to help pay your bills

In 2008 I was talking to a friend about videogames and I mentioned that I played Mario 64 on my DS. He wouldn't believe me. He just refused to believe that Nintendo found a way to port this game into a handheld. It was that impressive.

this is one of those games i could watch 600 video's about, and the 601st would still be interesting

Dude that last video on bomberman was sick, one of my absolute favorites! So sorry that it didn’t perform well, that’s a terrible feeling. Hopefully there’s a tiny shred of good in just knowing that those of us who did watch it really loved it!

12:02 the movement in 3D World is actually restricted to 8 directions regardless of whether you use a D-Pad or not, so an analog stick causing you to sway at that part is very weird

I remember as a kid finding the hidden power star in the mirror room by going through the mirror as Luigi and heading through the door, I was absolutely gobsmacked that I'd managed to stumble onto that by myself.

64 DS is my childhood game, something I come back to on a yearly basis. Such a goated game

I just realized on the GBC they remade Super Mario Bros for the platform (which also included lost levels as a unlockable), then on the GBA they did Super Mario Bros 2, 3, World, and the first Yoshi's Island, and on the DS they did 64. wouldn't be suprised if people were expecting a Super Mario Sunshine remake for the 3DS when it was new

Just if anyone doesn't know already: On an emulator you can use analog input directly in the game. There is really cool project that enables this and makes SM64DS the definitive version for me personally. Oh and on a 3DS there is also a mod available for this :D

I often brought my multiple DS' at school, we would play SM64 DS very often at some point. After some time, we realised it was dumb to play the way it was supposed to be, so we made our own game rules that we would choose every round. From "Capture THAT cap" to "1v3 beat-up" and "Race to that specific location", we had so much fun.

Unfortunate the Bomberman video didn't get that many views, it was so good it made me want to play the game myself

I highly recommend the 3DS port of the PC port for anyone who really wanted those analog controls. It's a surprisingly amazing version and it fills that 64 DS d-pad shaped hole in my heart. One day it would be great to see the DS version get some upgrades too, good thing we can always count on mods!

This is one of my favorite RU-vid channels of all time. I recently went back and re-watched every SilokHawk video in chronological order, and absolute loved it. It was sad to get to the last couple videos and run out of SilokHawk content to watch. Truly thanks for all the great vids. (Now where's Jackbox 7?)

A couple nuggets about SM64DS: Wario's boss fight actually has special dialog if fought with Yoshi, which is possible by using a glitched spot on the mirror that seems like it was intentionally left broken even though they fixed other issues like JRB's Boat being a slope when it swayed The dialog is as follows: (Intro/before the fight starts) "Hmm? I see you have no mustache. Poor, bald, little creature. It's not a fair fight for you, but luckily, I'm not a fair fighter. Let's go!" (After the fight/Defeated) "I simply cannot believe that I lost to a hairless pip-squeak like you! My mustache was my only joy. Now what am I going to do?" This is possible on launch copies (The copies that start with "©2004 Nintendo") I'm not sure about later copies that start with "©2004-2005 Nintendo" You can duplicate caps on Snowman's Land by letting the Snowman blow you away then recovering them over and over again. it'll eventually duplicate too many for the engine to handle and it'll crash, showing a crash error screen. We didn't knew what the hole in the wall on the castle exterior was for (on the file select screen). I don't know if we ever got an answer for that. Super Mario Slot is just an easier version of Mario Slot. It's random whether you can see through the card on Psyche Out! You can complete the game with only one key very easily due to a bug that lets you walk underwater on the moat Unlike it's Original Counterpart, there's a lot of places where you can upwarp very easily, one of them is on the TTC/RR room. There's leftover stuff from the multiplayer for story mode.

Lmao okay that opening had me in stitches. Great video!

The DS (at least the original model) explicitly had a sort of “thumb stylus” on the end of the hand strap. You could tighten the end of the strap onto your thumb, which positioned a hard nubbin of plastic onto your thumb tip. It worked quite well on the left thumb for the touch-screen analog control scheme, and also allowed easy access to the camera controls.

I can still remember when I had my Ds… It’s impressive how good this was back in the day. Fantastic video as always man, gave me a good laugh here and there.

About the touch controls, when discussing them people always seem to forget about the lace that came bundled with the first Nintendo DS. That thing had a small disk of plastic and the idea was that you'd tie it to your thumb so that you could use it to guide the characters without using a stylus. That control scheme was not intended to be used with the stylus, they knew that it would not work. That lace was probably included specifically for this one game. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't great, but I remember it being better than the dpad. It was basically like having a free form analog stick. The problem mainly being that it was centered, instead of being on the side. Which is appropriate for a remake of a N64 game, I guess.

The intro alone was enough for me to subscribe, great content. Looking forward to seeing more!

The Bomberman Wars review was actually really good. It was so good I watched it like 4 times.

Fun fact from the emulation front, if you inject a patch into the rom and enable an analogue stick expansion pak (I think melonDS does it, it's not a real cartridge unfortunately :c), you get full stick support just like it always should have had

The inflation power up is originally from SMW where it was in the form of P-balloon. And yeah, that thing.. did inspire some art. A _LOT_ of it.. I've seen entire doujinshi dedicated to it, so even Japan is in on the fun too.

13:20 When the game first came out, there was a thumb-stylus. You'd hold your DS like a 64 controller while playing 😂

Super Mario 64 DS was my childhood, my sister would always play it in her pink DS and I’ve always wanted to play it, she’s still addicted to it whenever we see it somewhere around the house

I'm so glad you're making this video I hope it gets the views that you deserve and I love your videos

that bomberman video was amazing and cozy, probably my favorite video of yours. That's really sad it didn't do well. I had no idea the game existed before and the video convinced me to add it to my backlog. I feel like there's gotta be a way you could market it, but it's probably too late to change the title and thumbnail to re-roll the algorithm now

one thing you can do if d-pad controls get you down is to try playing this game on a 3ds. The fact that they added that d-pad smoothing to the game for a d-pad, actually makes the 3ds circle pad feel more natural than you would expect. that's how I managed to complete the game and I must say, while it doesn't fix EVERY problem with control in this version, it makes it SIGNIFICANTLY better, just due to the fact that the circle pad will alternate d-pad imputes frequently enough to feel natural. if you haven't tried this game due to the ds, give it a try on the 3ds. its a much better experience.

Hey Silokhawk! I just wanna say that everytime I see an upload from you, I get very excited because you have some of the best content this platform has to offer. I love hearing your thoughts and critiques on games that I grew up with because it shows me that it is okay to be critical over the games you love. Anyways, I’ll always be supporting you and keep up the hard work!!

13:31 As a left handed person, I see this as a win

This was my first Mario game ever. I couldn’t have started with a better game imo

The reason I didn't watch the bomber man video is because of my passionate avoidance for anything fire emblem.

If I remember correctly. The game was ported to the Wii u and they let you use full joystick directional use for that version.

I’m right handed, and when this game launched, I 100% it using the wriststrap thumbpad w/ the touchscreen to control movement. It was awkward at first, but much better than the stylus and provided more control than the d-pad.

Something a lot of people seem to not know. The DS originally came with a thumb stylus, and that is what you were supposed to use for the touch screen analog movement. It wasn't perfect, but it actually felt pretty alright. They never expected anyone to use the pen stylus for movement.

I LOVE this game, everyone likes to GUSH about and mod the original, and I really wish that more people talked about it! Thanks for doing that!

at least he's being honest!

12:16 Fun fact! The camera move options allow you to change the direction the 8dpad options move, giving you a full 24 directions again. Also touch mode

I’m still hurt by Wario having been done so dirty… my boi never deserved that dammit

Was just thinking about this game. Thanks for letting me relive my childhood for 20 minutes.

THIS IS THE SUPER MARIO 64 I GREW UP WITH! 🥰

One thing to note about the controls is that the touch controls were not meant to be used with the stylus, but rather a weird little rubber... Thing attached to the original ds' wriststrap. I played it that way back then and playing this way feels wayyyy more organic than using a stylus or the dpad. The only issue is that ONLY the original ds had this wriststrap thing with the rubber part on it, which honestly imo is part of the reason nobody knows about it. It sucks because I genuinely think this is the best way to play the ds version [besides mods] and everyone online either doesnt know about it existing OR mentions it and then shits on it because they havent tried it or gotten used to it and then say "but its not a stick"

Luckily, I got to play this on a 3DS so I never hard the d pad problem. I really recommend doing that

It was intended for you to use the lanyard for the DS and its tiny thumbpad as a "virtual analog stick" and...once you get used to it, it actually worked alright, but yea, i found myself consistently switching between that and the d-pad to get through this game. Also, i've gotta say that shell sliding mini game was like actual crack.

Can I just say that I really prefer this version? I get the criticism about the controls, but I don't hate them. No, they aren't perfect. But they work. The incremental turning does really well in masking the limiting d-pad. I will agree, it's pretty bad for narrow levels, but as someone who mainly plays Mario 64 for the sandbox levels, I didn't find myself facing that issue often. Playing on the 3DS doesn't fix the issue, but it does make it more comfortable for my hands. Being able to just pull my 3DS out of my pocket and knock out a Star on Cool Cool Mountain is main selling point for me. Overall this was a great review and I really appreciate SilokHawk taking into account it's time of release and being as objective as possible.

SM64 DS is such a controversial but classic game that talking about the game never truly gets old

18:05 I'd actually disagree and would say the wireless local multiplayer isn't outdated at all. It's a really good idea for handheld multiplayer and for being able to play with your friends easily. I wish the Switch had this feature

If you eat an enemy that gives 3 coins, egg it, and then fire it at other enemies, every enemy will give 3 coins. Same thing with blue coins. Eat a Koopa, egg it, Shoot at a bunch of enemies, each one gives a blue coin. Yoshi is way more broken than anybody thought, and nobody ever seems to know about this trick for easy 100 coins stars.

Goomboss isn't "new" to SM64DS. He debuted in Paper Mario 64, although he was simply called "the Goomba King" there. In fact, Goomboss bears the distinction of being one of the only Mario characters to ever be introduced in the RPG series and then cross over to the mainline platform series. King Boo also appeared in Luigi's Mansion and Super Mario Sunshine before his fight here, although his design was drastically different in both games.

I loved this game so much. I remember I always wanted to be able to play as Luigi in SM64 and when I heard about SM64DS it was quite literally a dream-come-true, plus being able to play as Yoshi & Wario was an added bonus. I also scanned and printed off the character stat's pages from the instruction booklet so I could bring them to school and share them with my friends. Simpler times.

Hey man, great video! One question: are the controls fixed when playing on the 3ds? Been thinking about buying one lately, would be great.

I remember i never staying up one night trying to get my last star which was 100 coin star in rainbow ride I believe, I was having so much trouble with it, but man the moment i did it, it felt so accomplishing, this game will always have a special place in my heart

10:05 64DS has a flying glitch in this room that lets you do the final mission with any character, and it works until about halfway through the credits when the game freaks out and spits you back outside the csdtle

depending on the DS you use the analog stick is back making this game way easier, recommend this on a 3DS

A second Mario 64 remake of DS would probably be called Mario 64 DS Switch.

Alright but I'm barely a few minutes in and know this is gonna be a game documentary channel I listen to at night! Keep it up! Major props.

…Well, that intro sure was something. I didn’t even know about your Bomberman vid: I just saw this in my feed on a whim.

Addendum: There *is* another camera button: X. It swaps between the standard view, the zoomed-out view, and the FP-like rear view. I adore 64 DS for what it aspired to do, honestly. I think that, relearning the controls and getting used to that curve aside, it’s a fantastic remake of the original.

That’s so weird. When I was like 4-5, me and my family went on a camping trip, and some kid that I met on the camping grounds had a DS, and it was the first time I had ever seen one. According to my mom, I never did anything related to camping after meeting this kid, I was just watching him play his game the whole time.

fun not-fact: There was going to be a definitive version of super mario 64, as a sequel was planned with extra content. It's very likely that most of that extra content was added in super mario 64 ds

This, New Super Mario Bros DS, and Mario Kart DS were some of the biggest games of my childhood.

I have so many fond memories of this game. I remember so many nights spent trying to finish it (even though kid me was _trash_ at it lol). The minigames were easily my favorite part. I miss those days so much…

There's something really interesting about this game if you somehow enter a boss level where taht character can't go in normal ways (like the wario painting with yoshi) the bosses have dialog programed and even is translated to another lenguages

first off great video about mario 64 ds BUT i will not let you think that the bomberman video was bad. i loved that video. it was very very very well put together and i didnt even know there was a fire emblem bomberman and now im playing it. MAKE MORE BOMBERMAN VIDS!

When I was a kid I had a Japanese neighbor and he had a ds a whole year or so before it came out in the US. It was like a magical device and I couldn't fathom how he had something so advanced.

Me being left handed watching the right handed people burn in hell with the touch screen “MUAHAHAHA”

Two things to note: 1.) Any character can pick up a hat, this isn’t exclusive to Yoshi like the video implies. However, none of the other characters can turn into Yoshi because he doesn't have a hat for you to pick up, which does still make him the best pick. 2.) You only need Mario to unlock the Bowser stages; once you do, you can play them as any character. It's some very ass-backwards logic, and I have no idea why they did this, but I guess it's better than not letting you go through them as anyone other than Mario at all.

Honestly, that intro bit on this video made me watch the Bomberman Wars video, and I don't regret it lol

It’s true. When I was a kid I didn’t even realized the controls were better or worse I can’t remember having an issue with that.

Okay but the opening Bomberman hero music…I’m a musician and it’s easily my favorite game soundtrack.

The intro skit hit too hard homie😭

actually chife chilly is the only boss that's new to Mario 64 DS, unless if you mean as in wasn't in Mario 64, as big boo, or king boo, was in Luigi's Manson, and gomboss was in paper mario

My feed didn’t tell me your bomberman video came out like this one appeared on it. so I’m glad this video told me about it to watch afterwords!

The algorithm brought me here. I really enjoy your style, and I think I'll go watch that Bomberman video now. :)

As a left-hander, I must say I didn't have any problem controlling characters :)

As someone who is old enough to remember how big a deal the original Mario 64 was when it originally launched, and how it more or less changed the face of video games forever, the fact that a handheld that could run a (on the surface) better version of it less than ten years later was mind-blowing, and still kind of is. And I feel like the reason the DS, and to a degree the PSP, saw so many 2D games in spite of their capabilities is that in the early 00s, we were still in era where 2D games were considered dated, and full retail priced 2D titles on console just wasn't even considered a viable thing until New Super Mario Bros Wii in 09, so for most of the DS' life, if a dev wanted to make a 2D game, that was the only place they'd probably be allowed to put it

If you weren’t scammed out of 50$ during new year, this wouldn’t happen

Subscribed immediately with that entire intro commentary, well done

Almost every Mario 64 video ends with the credits music

best video title ive ever seen

So, here’s what I think could be a really fun concept: Super Mario 64 Deluxe It’s Super Mario 64 for the Switch, this time with even better controls and look, extra content, and most importantly, more characters, along with the ones DS introduced. The ideas I had for characters were Waluigi (which would also mark his first mainline appearance), Daisy, and Geno. Waluigi has much more speed and jump height, at the cost of being MUCH harder to control. Daisy can use a dash to move faster Geno uses his gun arm to attack enemies from a distance

I love how the manual straight-up tells you not to get too attached to your title screen drawings bc you can't save them.

It may be worth noting that 64 DS wasn't meant to be played with the stylus. Instead there was an accessory with the original DS that let you use the Touch Screen with your thumb instead.

This was the second video game I ever played and I never remember any problems with the controls, but that was probably because I didn't know any better. Now that I have actually played 3D games, going back to 64 DS always feels weird even when I'm playing on a 3DS.

Nowdays when I see a new Mario game which has amazing visuals on the Switch, I think to myself, "Kids these days are far more spoiled with technology than I was in the late 2000's and early 2010 decade, kids in my day had Super Mario 64 DS." I never played Super Mario 64 until I was older, I should have bought it on virtual console though. I remember a time where one girl at a local daycare center had a bootleg DS cartridge with a list of official games and my young mind was blown. So I bought my own for $40 one day on Ebay. Another memory I have is a time where I accidently swapped consoles with another boy, we had the same colors and I remember noticing right away while he played on my console until I met him again.

Enabled notifications and rewatching your previous videos during work :) Great content and you deserve the views!

This game is SO important to me. Like, I did play other 3d games before it on the ps2, but on my DS I only had NSMB. and MKDS, and my dad had already showed me the classics like Super Mario World. When a friend started playing a 3d Mario game I instantly went nuts, LIKE OMG IT'S MARIO BUT IT's LIKE BIGGER AND BETTER?? I annoyed my dad so much until he downloaded it into my R4 card. Little did I know, SM64 was quite harder in structure, I spent a lot of time trying to understand how to get the more diffcult stars, and only learned how to unlock Luigi and Wario through a boy I befriended because of the game lmao. Damn... I miss those days

I remember having a lot of fond memories with this game despite not actually owning it. Would constantly rent it out from video stores, and it was a blast to play.

Bomberman fucking rules, even just as a character. I fucking love it. Never got the notification that you posted a Bomberman video sadly

I will say that I love the new content they added in the DS version like the mini games, new levels, 30 new stars, and the new playable, but I do agree that the controls aren’t as good as the original. Like, controlling a 3D Mario game with a D-pad isn’t really ideal. I prefer playing this game on the 3DS or Wii U VC because you actually have an analog stick and I actually think it does improve the controls, but I still prefer the controls of the original. Also, I wish the DS version didn’t have a run button since the original didn’t have one. So, I love the remake and I would still recommend playing it, but I do prefer the original version because of the better controls and also because it’s just more fun to just move around.

The intended way to play using the touch-screen was to use a special wrist-wrap that came with the original DS. The wrist-wrap had a smooth chunk of plastic on it that's used to play DS games using your thumb on the touch-screen. I remember 100%ing this game in touch-screen mode for the hell of it. The touch screen controls are better than the D-pad, but they're still bad. Though, not in the ways you'd might think. In general the touch-screen controls are not completely analog. for some reason they're still digital in some very weird way. The game uses a target when you use the touch-screen with 3 colours on it: red, yellow, and blue. If you hover over the red area you either point or start sneaking, on the yellow area you fast walk, and on the blue area you run, but there's no smooth transition between any of these, so it gets irritating needing to pick between fast walking or slowly sneaking. Jumping and punching is also weird because the button mapping is different, and not as comfortable as the N64 version. However, one advantage that I found using the touch-screen is that characters seem to run faster than the D-pad controls for some reason.

Most honest video title holy sht. Watching just because of the honesty.

The thumb stylus that came with the original DS and the Touch Mode control scheme that allocates camera control to X and Y is by far the best way to play this on an original cartridge. Definitely not as good as the N64's analog stick, but reasonably usable all the same.

Bowser's glow up in this game is unreal

Does no one remember the wrist strap that came with the original DS? It was specifically designed with a small plastic piece with a groove in it, so you could rest your thumb there and use the touch screen. For SM64DS, it was a way to make the analog controls feel like playing on the N64 again, especially since you had to hold your DS in the middle. I believe it was advertised for that specific functionality…but I could be misremembering that.

3:14 my first time seeing n64 mario, I asked “where is the real mario? Is there a way to switch to him?” Now I’m used to 64 mario, but back a few years ago, I definitely wasn’t

7:41 Wario may move slow and can’t jump high, but he’s one *hell* of a guy Especially in multiplayer

One of my favorite games on my favorite console