I TEST THE NEW TENSOR EXTREME SLEEPING PAD… On A Glacier

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@JustinOutdoors Год назад

NOTE: The Tensor XC tested in this video was a pre-production model that ended up having defects. The production model I have now does not have the same issue. 👇 GEAR FROM THE VIDEO 👇 Zpacks Arc Haul Pack: geni.us/ArcHaul Nemo Tensor Extreme Pad: geni.us/TensorExtreme Nemo Moonlite Elite Chair: geni.us/MoonliteElite MSR Reactor Stove: geni.us/Reactor Durston X-Mid Pro 2+ Tent: Coming Soon 👇 OTHER GEAR FROM THE TRIP 👇 OV Stormloft Quilt: geni.us/OV-Quilt Speedgoat 5 Shoes: geni.us/Speedgoat5 ReadyWise Pro Meals: geni.us/ReadywisePro Exped Megapillow: geni.us/MegaPillow Screw Stakes: geni.us/ScrewStakes Ti Pegs: geni.us/TiPegs Pink Spoon: geni.us/PinkSpoon Quickdraw Filter: geni.us/PlatyQuickDraw Rovyvon Flashlight: geni.us/RovyvonA5X InReach Messenger: geni.us/InReachMessenger

@deekelley891 Год назад

I pretty tired of hearing about them from just about every outdoor or KETO channel. Pretty thorough marketing blitz. So, no, haven’t used them. I use another brand.

@WonderingRanges Год назад

hey Justin, Ive always enjoyed your channel but have 2 big questions for you in regards to your video- how did you legally camp on the glacier within the National Park, and two- why did you say there are polar bears in the area? Grizzly and black bears yes- but not polar bears.

@mattkreitzer5622 Год назад

I have used LMNT recently. I did the Black Forest Trail in Pennsylvania (45 mi trail regarded as the hardest in PA) and it was the first trail that I used LMNT. Honestly, I was put off by the flavor at first because I didn't expect the saltiness of it and I only put it in 16 oz of water (it is recommended to put a pack in 33 oz if I am not mistaken). But, after that initial bottle, I followed the directions and the saltiness was not bad at all. I will say that I think it helped me maintain my energy because I was sweating quite a bit on that trip due to the constant ascents and descents and replacing my electrolytes was needed. At camp on the second night I made some coffee and mixed the chocolate salt flavor in with the coffee and it tasted great. Once I use the supply of LMNT I have now, I do plan on buying some more (probably will stick with citrus salt, orange salt, raspberry salt, and chocolate salt).

@Andy-Mesa 11 месяцев назад

Pretty much never trying them now that they're being rammed down my throat by every outdoor channel.

@mikef3808 11 месяцев назад

I used it, the unflavored one specifically. On a wildland fire fighting assignment and was very pleased with it.

@MyLifeOutdoors Год назад

“They are pointy and have a screw edge on them” best review of a product I’ve ever heard.

@JustinOutdoors Год назад

There's a reason they call me "justin the super reviewer"

@juliomb1 Год назад

You guys both put your reviews out at pretty much the same time. Coincidence? I think not!

@teutates619 Месяц назад

Really? That’s your self esteem?? 🤮

@teutates619 Месяц назад

(@justin)

@billheckman5937 Год назад

Appreciate your honesty. It seems that the outdoor/backpacking industry is in a race to pump out the latest and greatest expensive gear while allowing users with deep pockets to do the R&D.

@azclaimjumper Год назад

That was certainly the case with MSR & Tents that weren't seam sealed. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.

@hooptroopers 2 месяца назад

Maybe a far out thought but it could seem like certain products potentially sleep warmer and perform better than others, depending on how well manufacturers sponsor or do giveaways? Many of these RU-vidrs have got to be the best advertisers for the companies and they can put the squeeze to any company that doesn't give them as much money and free merch as they would like. Just a theory. But with lesser performing products tested in milder climates Justin has seemed more enthusiastic in his presentations. For reference, he is standing on a glacier here gentlemen.

@JustinOutdoors День назад

@@hooptroopers I think you overestimate how much money companies have and how much reviewers care what the companies think.

@megrim8292 Год назад

If you were cold on a 8.5R value with outside temps above freezing I would think that something is wrong.

@azclaimjumper Год назад

My sentiments. Temp just above freezing isn't anything as cold as below Zero, (Fahrenheit) Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.

@billpetersen298 11 месяцев назад

On a slab of deep freeze ice. You’ll never get warm.

@AR9ify 10 месяцев назад

@@billpetersen298 you will if you do the right things. After several years of artic warfare it is no problem.

@Ali_ReBORN 10 месяцев назад

Agreed. He may have done something out of the norm he isn’t aware of.

@devidwobinson8747 10 месяцев назад

@@AR9ifywhat can be done ?

@PixieDesigns Год назад

@justinoutdoors I love how you and Steven come at testing the same things in such different ways. And your joint podcast appearance was great. Great video

@JustinOutdoors Год назад

Steven is a great guy and has a great brain for testing! We sometimes swap thoughts and ideas for how and why certain gear is performing certain ways. It's great to have a resource like him!

@woodchip2782 Год назад

@@JustinOutdoorsI bet he appreciates you just as much for the same reasons!😊

@neilquinn Год назад

Remember that in a lot of places the ground temperature can actually warmer than the air temperature because it can hold heat from beneath. On a glacier you'd get none of that so it is probably quite different than other conditions on regular ground.

@ajw9975 Год назад

I feel advection becomes more of an issue with large thickness airpads. This is something the ASTM standard doesn't quite nail I feel. I have experience with various editions of the Thermorests, some with mylar, some without; but all with the triangular matrix (which does control the movement of air in decent way). I've also had experience with the S2S Etherlight Insulated. At 1C in my backyard, I agree that despite the S2S R3.2 (or so rating), I felt cold, even compared to my non-mylar Thermorest. I felt warmest on the Xlite NXT. While high R values suggest better use for cold ground/air situations (based on ASTM testing), without some way to control the sideways movement of air within the pad (especially in large volume pads like the S2S Etherlight and perhaps the Nemo as you've described), any air in the pad that you do warm up underneath you will just end up advecting and mixing with cold air in contact with the any part of the pad that is not in contact with your body (i.e, sides, any part of the surface outside of your body imprint [or sleeping bag if you use a mummy]). This problem is exacerbated by every single movement you make on the pad. I think this is where the Thermorest pads (with the triangular matrix) have nailed this issue and have consistently garnered praise for best real-world use warmth-to-weight ratio. Not perfect, but still consistently at/near the top and remains the "standard" to what others measure themselves to. OTOH, can it be argued that there's a limit to what size a pad is acceptable if the goal is preserving body heat? Maybe you don't want a pad that's too much larger than, say, your mummy sleeping bag in order to minimize advective heat loss? A non-issue if you use a quilt.

@alexk1486 Год назад

Air movement within the pad is the biggest contributor to the "feels like" perceptive temperature rating. R-Value isn't everything

@philsmith2444 Год назад

@@alexk1486About 6 years ago I picked up a returned Exped DownMat 9 LW for less than half MSRP, I used it once at about 10-15F in conjunction with a NEMO Sonic 0F and was chilly. Definitely more chilly than its R=7.8 (IIRC) rating should have left me feeling. I think Justin reviewed or tested one and said his thought was the down doesn’t evenly distribute. I’ve used my 2022 Xtherm down to around -10F with a FF Eider -10F bag (w/6oz overfill) and was actually uncomfortably warm. It’s not an apples-to-apples comparison, the Exped was used on a wood bunk in a cabin near the summit of Mt Chocorua NH while the XTherm was used in a tent with a Reflectix full floor liner that I made. Maybe I’ll bring both out for a 2-nighter this winter.

@bihlygoat Год назад

The ASTM standard should probably change so the hot plate on top is only about as wide as the typical persons body contact area with the pad. From videos I’ve watched, it looks like right now the hot and cold plates are both the full width of a pad. You do get some convective heat loss out the long end of the pad, but not the sides.

@BigDawgCAM Год назад

I could not be more excited for the Moonlite Elite! Such a great design with an awesome weight. I'm definitely willing to shell out some money for a setup like that

@samimurtomaki5534 10 месяцев назад

I bought regular moonlite, atleast it is supposed to be bit sturdier and it has a mesh seat. Both meaningfull for me, but that weight. Elite certainly doesn't look bad but I don't think I can just shell money like that in a foreseeable future. I can wait few years for a good deal or just be happy with what I have.

@LMay64 Год назад

Thrilled to see the improvements to the valve system. I'd like to know more about their response to your warmth issue. I'd love to know how this compares in the same conditions to the newer XTherm NXT. I like my current Nemo Insulated pad and would be willing to upgrade, but only if it is truly warmer than the Thermarest XTherm.

@azclaimjumper Год назад

I raised the same question, Nemo Extreme vs XTherm NXT. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.

@woodchip2782 Год назад

It’s amazing how far you’re willing to go or do for these tests. The prices of these equipments are way over my means but it’s great to know what’s created to maintain a hike safely in the wildest parts of the world. Thank you Justin!👍🏻🙂

@garynesbitt5078 Год назад

Hi Justin. It would be really great to see a comparison review and recommendation on this pad against the xtherm. It’s the current undisputed king of warm winter pads. Most people considering the nemo will be picking it or the xtherm. Great video as always.

@azclaimjumper Год назад

I, like others, am looking forward to a good comparison review of the Nemo Extreme vs XTherm NXT. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.

@dancurtis461 11 месяцев назад

the one issue I have with the xtherm is the noise. I did not think it would bother me but... yep. crinkly crinkly. It's enough to make me consider swapping it out for this one.

@azclaimjumper 11 месяцев назад

@@dancurtis461 I'm hard of hearing & when I take my hearing out & am in my sleeping bag, I ask, "crinkly crinkly"? Where? What?😃😄😀😁

@azclaimjumper 11 месяцев назад

@@dancurtis461 When I take my hearing aids out, I'd be asking, "crinkly, crinkly"? Where? What?😄😁

@garynesbitt5078 11 месяцев назад

@@dancurtis461 hi Dan. Tbh the noise isn’t an issue for me but I know it does annoy a lot of people The xtherm pad excels in weight and warmth but not comfort - especially for side sleepers. If the nemo is as light and warm as the xtherm in real world testing , but more comfortable then I’d make the change…

@JoshuaJohnsonOutdoors Год назад

"Puckered up a bit...." lol Nice video Mr Justin. That looks like an interesting pad.

@adventuremanintheclouds8968 Год назад

Is there any update on this pad and the feedback from Nemo?

@paulbelcher2563 Год назад

I also want to know

@azclaimjumper Год назад

I have the same question? Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.

@NADRIGOL Год назад

Excited your digging your Arc Haul. Been loving my Arc Blast for years. My latest adjustment has been from hip belts to Zpacks FUPA. So much easier to access stuff, although adds some awkwardness to putting your pack on.

@TlMESPENT Год назад

Love these kind of reviews but damn what a tease. I WANT IT ALL AND I WANT IT ALL NOW! 😂

@NikhilShahi Год назад

I bought my MSR Reactor a few years ago for $110. It is now $265. Insanity!

@zakafx Год назад

I know what you mean! I had a windburner 1L in 2017, got it as a gift. I checked the price and it was 189 over the years but today it is 259! (CAD pricing).

@garylindenmuth7468 Год назад

Crazy labor cost has not gone up, as everything is made in China just plain greed, check

@PierreFarrugia Год назад

Nice video, both you and Steve said felt cold ! I am curious what temp i can use my nemo tensor insulated ! By the way your view looked much better than Steve’s freezer 😂

@zinger2967 Год назад

Did this hike with a scramble up the Onion last year. Sad to see the glacier has retreated a large amount when I compare it with last year. Great video as always Justin!

@trikelife4960 Год назад

Definitely interesting results Justin. I'm glad you really test gear rather than just review it. I jumped on the S2S Etherlight XT extreme after a few youtubers put up initial reviews. I wish I'd waited until people had actually had a winter on them because they're not quite as warm as the R value suggests. They do best inflated until they have no give but then the comfort of the 4" thickness is all but gone. I think I'll try the new Xtherm NXT eventually. I live near the rockies in Alberta too so I know how cold it can get even in summer.

@JackRR15 Месяц назад

Wow I find it curious how the top of that glacier where you are camping looks just like any other Canadian city in the middle iof winter with slush and ice haha. Like you know what I mean, the grittyness of the ice with the black asphalt/dirt. Dunno I would have thought it would be so clean and all

@bihlygoat Год назад

That area is SPECTACULAR! I’ve been to some very scenic places and that is up there with all of them. Jealous!

@livinlarge1247 9 месяцев назад

Tough call, but I got the new X-Therm since it had a MW Mummy (very wide with sparks & plenty of noise). The Nemo certainly looked more comfy, but the mummy shape works nice in my hammocks. The Thermarest is so wide I could almost drop back to the standard Nemo width, but I am glad TR offered the nice, wide mummy pad. I only assume it is as warm as the older X-Therm. Cool sparks & electric lighning strikes when you put away the sleeping bag.

@MichaelsPwner Год назад

I’m looking forward to seeing more testing of that sleeping pad. I’m concerned that the flat insulation layers will allow cold to enter the pad from the side. I am also looking forward to finding out the price of the new chair and pads. I currently own the Nemo Moonlite that I got on sale for 50% off. My biggest gripe is the fact that it doesn’t have a ground sheet for snow or sand, so I’m looking forward to seeing pricing on the new model.

@damonpeters900 9 месяцев назад

I've been backpacking for years but haven't wondered into winter/cold weather backpacking just yet. So this comment is a genuine question, not an insult. If the pads been tested to ASTM standard to get that 8.5 R-value would that not remove the concern for cold air coming in from the side?? Or is there more to it than just "it's been tested"??

@TheTrailDancer 4 месяца назад

Nice Vid Bro!!!! Polar Bears where you are??? How far north are you???? That really surprises me...

@IdRatherBeHiking 10 месяцев назад

What's the name of this hike?

@joaniekay5600 Год назад

Did you try the Uberlite as well? What was the difference?

@andreasweber7828 11 месяцев назад

I’m using the Exped Down Mat 7 for 3years in winter and felt like sleeping on a radiator already ( R-value 5.9 )

@bertman4 Год назад

How much of the top surface of the Nemo was exposed to cold air? It's not just the ground you have to worry about. You also have radiative heat loss from the top of the pad.

@JustinOutdoors Год назад

Exactly, there are a lot of factors I am running through in order to try and isolate what is happening.

@philsmith2444 Год назад

Maybe something like a Reflectix pad sleeve with the center cut out to let heat that transfers through the bottom of your bag into the pad. I haven’t been able to find an R-value for Reflectix by itself, only in conjunction with air spaces and building materials. Though the floor liner I made for a tent did allow me to put bare hands and stocking feet on it at around -10F.

@0errant Год назад

I'm curious about this, too. I know I definitely sleep warmer when my quilt drapes over the edges of my pad, rather than be strapped close to my body. It's one of the reasons why I stick to a regular width pad rather than the wide.

@edwin8808 Год назад

justin_indoors, at least the glacier is better scenario than a freezer as mylifeindoors did!

@zacharybonner9188 Год назад

I guess when we don’t have glaciers in Texas…it was worth a shot. But both sounds like the same results

@connerpoppke6780 Год назад

Bro fended off a Grizzly and now wants the smoke from a polar bear 😂😂😂

@jeffbonzerpeterson Год назад

Yes a wider bathtub for 2 people, the industry and hikers are moving to 25 inch wide sleeping pads such a good thing.

@tatertots6448 7 месяцев назад

I want to fish there, lol...oh, and thanks for the review! I got the Therm-a-Rest XTherm NXT...yes, it is crinkly sounding, but I like the 70D on the bottom, and 30D on top...

@MilesScout21 Год назад

I do wonder about the thermals of sleeping on a glacier vs snow. Snow would insulate with the air pockets and I think ice has roughly 4 times the thermal conductivity of water. It would have been great to see a head to head of the tensor extreme with anXTherm NXT but I suspect one would sleep cold with either pad with those conditions...

@azclaimjumper Год назад

I, too, wish he'd compared the Nemo Extreme vs XTherm NXT. Someone will, soon, hopefully. I have the XTherm that I'm satisfied with for the overnight conditions I camp in. I "like" & am a long time subscriber. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.

@garyhoffman1 Год назад

I have 2 Mammut King Size pump mats that are REAL 8.2 r-value mats. They weigh 1560 grams but are good down to -40C. I have tried them that low in Northern Norway and I slept like a baby. It’s too bad they don’t make them anymore but the ultralight boom killed them. I don’t trust any lightweight pads in extreme conditions.

@megrim8292 Год назад

3 inch thick garbage couch foam has about a rating of 6.0 and it will keep you toasty hot on ground like that, where do they get these 8.5 astm ratings from anyway? Very deceptive in the way that heat is stored and insulated.

@GreatDataVideos Год назад

In June of 1979, I camped at the bottom of Mt. Blanc in France. I had a summer weight sleeping bag with a zipper that didn't work. I froze! The air would come down over the glacier at night and the temperature dropped dramatically. Once I figured out that I needed to cover my head, it was much better. Can you use one of the laser thermometers to show us the difference in temperature between the ground and the top of the pads?

@azclaimjumper 8 месяцев назад

3 months have gone by. When are you going to do another test/review of this pad? Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.

@JustinOutdoors 8 месяцев назад

I've been testing it the entire time and have comments on it in multiple videos.

@milesfrussell Год назад

The windburner melts snow basically as well as the reactor and weighs less. I’ve used both on wa volcanos and in the alpine to melt snow.

@markswishereatsstuff2500 Год назад

Wow. That MSR Reactor stove is $289 USD!! You weren't joking about it being crazy expensive.

@azclaimjumper Год назад

I bought an MSR Whisperlite stove back in the late 60's when they first hit the market. It still works like new. Paid the princely sum of $35.00 for it. A huge improvement over the Sterno Stove I'd been using. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.

@MongooseReflexes 8 месяцев назад

This is exactly why people shouldn't making review videos on pre-production gear. Giving it negative remarks, on something that wasn't finalized, gives people a bad opinion of it before it's even released...

@JustinOutdoors 8 месяцев назад

This wasn't a review.

@MongooseReflexes 8 месяцев назад

@@JustinOutdoors Well, you examined & tested it in the real world, and gave us your opinion on it. Sounds like you're reviewing it to me.

@JustinOutdoors 8 месяцев назад

@@MongooseReflexes I think of it as a test. Multiple tests in multiple conditions factor into a final review. I think it's important to share the testing process but I do understand that I need to be clear that these aren't my final thoughts on a product.

@MongooseReflexes 8 месяцев назад

@@JustinOutdoors Very well, I agree.

@SalmondOutdoors Год назад

That's kind of sad that it was a little cold, I've used my xTherm on ice before and it was super cozy.

@azclaimjumper Год назад

I, too, have NEVER slept cold when my sleeping bag is on my XTherm.

@rohinignani Год назад

really you’re gonna tease us like that with the new Durston 2p+?? 😩😅

@DaveOffGrid Год назад

Whoa! 0-2 for the new Nemo pad! Steven just gave it a thumbs down too! 😮 8.5 R value that isn't super warm at only freezing temps?! What a swing and miss!

@JustinOutdoors Год назад

I'm still going through the testing process and need to get it out in more conditions. I'm not definitive on the pad yet one way or another.

@LJ.613 Год назад

@@JustinOutdoorscurious on your thoughts on the rapide SL in sub zero temps. Just picked one up and will be using it in Oct/Nov and often hit well below 0c

@tyrasor Год назад

X-mid pro 2 *plus*?? I know there’s been rumors, but is this the official announcement? It’s not on Durston’s site yet.

@JustinOutdoors Год назад

Stay tuned for more info from Dan.

@zakkmiller8242 Год назад

Bro you should have over 250k subs by now. RU-vid is disrespecting this awesome channel!! Big love for all that you do man. You rule!!

@pabloelsur1624 11 месяцев назад

Hello Justin, one quick question, please, comparing Moonlite Elite and Helinox Zero - which one is less intrusive for hamstrings? which allows more natural position with legs streching forward?

@ChopperChad Год назад

Thought my standard Tensor slept cold too. Picked up the new 25” wide NeoAir and it’s comfortable enough and warm. Especially for its light weight. And the new one is much quieter and a bit thicker too.

@funnybeingme Год назад

I bought the Nemo Tensor Insulated a few years ago. I also slept cold compared to the Thermarest Neo Air. So I sold it to my friend. I was excited about this Tensor Extreme but perhaps maybe not as much now.

@H4K4LA Год назад

The wapta traverse is gnarly! Loved the vid; interested in Nemo’s response.

@johnshellenberg1383 Год назад

I've skied the Wapta numerous times and skied the Bow-Yoho traverse as well, you will love doing it! The Wapta is less committing than the Bow-Yoho from a navigation and terrain standpoint, so it's a great way to see the area. Highly recommend mid March to mid April for more light, warmer temps and a more stable snowpack. We were up on the icefields this summer doing some mountaineering and all that bare ice was heartbreaking. The toe of the glacier above the Bow Hut has receded so much, omg. As for sleeping pads, the first sleeping pad I ever used in the winter without a closed cell foam pad with it was the X-Therm, and I can't say enough about the now-old-standard for winter capable pads. I've used mine below -30C on the Columbia Icefields and along with my WM Puma, was very comfy all night. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fRJQN-RjYvg.html

@natea1042 Год назад

Xmid Pro 2+ floor dimensions and weight? Guessing 54" wide and around 22oz but just confirming. Tensor sounds disappointing. I wonder if the baffle fabric connections are transferring cold or otherwise limiting insulation ability. Say what you want about Thermarest but they know what they're doing with regards to durability and insulation ratings.

@JustinOutdoors Год назад

I am not allowed to reveal!

@logictd567 Год назад

400 for a pack is definitely crazy

@ulbushcrafting6592 Год назад

Dude. It tiresome hearing brokey comments like yours. It’s his money man.

@logictd567 Год назад

@@ulbushcrafting6592 buy it and stfu

@es0x Год назад

Nice gear is expensive 🤷‍♂️ welcome to the economy where a bottle of water is 4$

@Bassandbackpacks Год назад

How much do you think that tent is going to cost 😂

@phillipp1399 Год назад

Bomber pack though!

@elisebrown5157 5 месяцев назад

This video came out 7 months ago and I just checked to see if you've put out an update. I don't see one. Since you say that the sleeping mat you tested was a defective pre-production model, and you now have a production model without the same issues, when can we expect an update about how it actually performs in very cold conditions?

@marcusmax4548 Год назад

Is the durston a legit 4 season tent, or is there something else you'd recommend for winter?

@ale10903videos Год назад

What part of the canadian rockies was this? Have a buddy up in calgary and we are trying to find a spot like this to checkout the ice fields. Awesome video, love your content and reviews!

@WeekendsOutsideFL Год назад

I think its further north he mentioned Polar bears being extant in the area

@quieroverduras Год назад

He is at Bow Hut.

@danielsingh9415 Год назад

@@WeekendsOutsideFLpolar bears 🐨 was a joke, hence the pink spoon bear defense tool 😂

@WeekendsOutsideFL Год назад

@@danielsingh9415 that dang aspergers gets me every time. I reasoned there must be some way that a pink titanium spoon is an ideal defense for a polar bear. LOL

@danielsingh9415 Год назад

@@WeekendsOutsideFL I feel ya, it's migraine hangover day 1, here. I'm living with an inoperable brain tumor remnant, stuck in my head like a ticking time bomb 💣 Justin's pink titanium spoon is a running/or ongoing joke, not to be taken literally, tho I know we do sometimes 😜

@brianmessick8593 Год назад

Hey Justin whats that grey LW jacket you're wearing? I like the way looks.

@alanmartyn5212 Год назад

Unrelated - But I would really like to see an expert video of backpacking in the rain - How to stay dry(ish), how to pack up your tent in the rain, mindset and tips

@MrDtgreen 10 месяцев назад

Check out sam bananas. I enjoy his videos because he's always camping in the rain.

@PiaLiljebladh 10 месяцев назад

Hi Justin! Have you got any answers from Nemo about the pad? Do you now when it’s gonna be released? Greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪 /Pia

@hoser7706 Год назад

Neoair Xtherm still rules for warmth and packability. 😬

@azclaimjumper Год назад

I don't know if it still rules, however, it's the pad I've been sleeping on & I have no plans to change. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.

@goldenrakelawncare6564 5 месяцев назад

What Hokas are those?

@devinduncan2830 10 месяцев назад

Dude is testing it on ice lol

@garathjacob526 Год назад

Cool pad, could you flip it for a lower R value? Could be a used for different seasons,

@JustinOutdoors Год назад

Super interesting idea! I'm going to look into that!

@stevewilliams9753 10 месяцев назад

Will you be doing an update on the Tensor Extreme now that they are available for purchase by the general public?

@JustinOutdoors 10 месяцев назад

Nemo sent me a replacement from their production stock and I have been testing that out extensively. Stay tuned for updated over the next month! On December 15, I have a video where I A-B test it with the Xtherm dropping.

@fleetfoot9034 Год назад

Gosh I love hearing the metric system.

@django02 Год назад

I'm puzzled as to why you felt cold from the ice coming through the pad with that R value. Decades ago, I slept two nights on a glacier on my original version of the self-inflating Thermarest pad that was only 1.5 inches thick and stayed toasty warm. I don't know what the R value of those old Thermarests was, but I imagine it would be much less than the one quoted for the Nemo pad.

@nicks7765 Год назад

Was it a big orange pad from thermarest? I think I have the same one. Rolls up because it can't fold. I'm a big fan of them I still use it from time to time to car camp.

@frogturtle Год назад

we shall see if the x-therm is dethroned after further testing…or if it will remain the king of cold weather pads :)

@azclaimjumper Год назад

I have the XTherm & it's still KING as far as I"m concerned, until proven otherwise. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.

@F.works.Outdoor.channel Год назад

Excuse me from Japan. I also do a lot of camping, and there aren't many views like this even in Japan. Is enviable

@mattj6940 Год назад

Love the videos Justin! As for polar bears, I think you’re referring to a spoof story where some got relocated to the Canadian Rockies. There’s no polar bears outside of zoos in BC or Alberta.

@browsman2328 Год назад

Greetings from NorCal, thanks Justin, always appreciate your reviews. I don’t backpack anymore because I am at least as old as your father, maybe older, but I am still an avid daypacker and still using the Osprey Syncro 20 that you recommend a while back. Btw, I would not have gone over the scary boulder, but you are still a youngster so have at that kind of stuff. Slainte (cheers) as my Irish father would say.

@cathiecollins7320 11 месяцев назад

Polar bear? Come on Justin!❤

@AdamJoseph03 Год назад

Dope how you can mix in reviews with hiking!

@Mixima101 10 месяцев назад

WTF, there are no polar bears there! Hahaha

@namelessone5200 Год назад

Interested what is your opinion for the Decathlon FH900 jacket, have you tested it enough yet?

@Accurize2 3 месяца назад

Snow insulates. Solid ice doesn’t.

@royalbrooks7163 Год назад

Super excited for the new Nemo Elite Moonlite chair to come out. I have two versions of the Helinox Zero and Highback but I still fill like I'm sliding out of them, and the sitting area of the chairs seem to be cut short to save weight. Am I the only person who is expecting this issue? I've also been heavily reliant on my Klymit Motion 60 pack due to the comfort of Air Frame. I suffer a lot of vertebra damage and the frame really has been an enjoyment for me. I'm curious about trying the Arc Haul and seeing if I'll get the same or better results while carrying 18-28 pounds max.

@RedShipsofSpainAgain 11 месяцев назад

The part where he discusses the Nemo Extreme Conditions is not until 12:17.

@mikekraut7643 Год назад

I hope Dan makes a more budget version of that tent with the new ChallengeTNT fabric

@andersnrregren9087 Месяц назад

8,5r lol still cold lol so you are sick or the 8,5r is a lie i use a 4,1r (exped downmat 5 lw) on ice i never feel the ground cold i use a quilt on the pad notthing else i dont layer the pad with anything and never feel cold, so is this channel run be a weak man or is nemo lieing?

@dennispixton9353 11 месяцев назад

Sry I’ve owned 2 tensor and both got leaks very early on and I’m very anal bout my campsites and sweeping the proposed area I’ll put my tarp… I’m sticking with Therma rest Neo Xlite… way more durable

@llsudsll 8 месяцев назад

@justinoutdoors What brand/model are those hiking pants you're wearing in this video?

@PixieDesigns Год назад

Thanks!

@JustinOutdoors Год назад

No, thank YOU!

@garylines5755 Год назад

The last time I tried a pad other than Thermarest I ended up having to go two hundred miles with no pad but it was super ultra light when I threw it away in Wrightwood

@nathankoenegstein3253 Год назад

Glad to see that the X mid set up well on such un even ground!!

@franny5295 8 месяцев назад

I can't be the only person casually scrolling through RU-vid who stumbled across this and immediately thought, "why???" Sleeping on a giant slab of ice is not something I would do unless literal zombie were chasing me because everybody knows zonbies can't move in sub zero temperatures...👀... right???

@mukbangmike9138 Год назад

The Onion is an all time favourite hike

@iseabeck9488 Год назад

Lmfao MLO bought a big ass freezer when he should have just found a glacier like you did.

@JustinOutdoors Год назад

I'll; invite him next time! haha. I'm jealous of how much costco meat he can store now though.

@philsmith2444 Год назад

@@JustinOutdoorsYeah, it’s much easier for him to get his frozen food from his test site.

@wanglee21 8 месяцев назад

I wonder does the mountains get as cold as the midwest -30 to -50 F?

@jadenm Год назад

Ive heard from a couple of others that the new nemo pad doesn’t feel as warm as it is rated. I wonder what the consensus will be when the pad is finally released.

@azclaimjumper Год назад

I, too, will be interested in what others have to say about their sleeping experiences on the Nemo Extreme. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.

@sheltermonkey6065 Год назад

Please test duo sleeping pads!

@LuckyTown77 Год назад

Would it be warmer in snow ?

@ramonnagesan6863 Год назад

Lol imagine a polar bear in AB.

@dcl97 Год назад

Not sure what you used, but at higher elevations and on snow/ice a quilt (especially)or recreational style sleeping bag won't do the job. There is a reason why mountaineering bags a super air tight and form fitting. Your body is your heater. Quilts let too much air escape and rec bags have too much space which equals more surface area exposed to heat loss. A sleeping pad isn't going to save you regardless of the r value. We had to evac a woman from Helen Lake earlier this season who nearly froze to death overnight with an xtherm max and a -10F quilt and overnight Temps were only in the 20's.

@JustinOutdoors Год назад

I've taken quilts and the xtherm down to -30C on snow. I was toasty.

@azclaimjumper Год назад

You've summarized WHY I've always slept inside a Sleeping Bag & never, ever considered a quilt when overnighting out in the boonies. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.

@LJ.613 Год назад

Youre not thw onoy reviewer who has been surprised at how cold this pad is. Me think companies are just trying to game the ATSM vs building real world warmth

@quicottetom9218 9 месяцев назад

Don't forget to well take yr precious electrolites😂

@anthonygorrell1343 10 месяцев назад

Air was at or around 32 but you were on ice that's below 32

@PierreFarrugia Год назад

Justin whats this OR hoodie, you wear ? WHat you wear under ?

@TheMadmacs Год назад

shoulda tested just adding a silver matt on top of the pad. ps. not sure black surface is the way to go, pps. do you think the moisture in the air would have made the sleep cold? 0deg is still very moist? -10 would drop all the moisture from the air?

@Hayyothhakodesh Год назад

I have to say 400$ for a pack is CHEAPER !!!. I have 24 packs and my lowest price for a pack is 350 my highest is a Kifaru tactical system that all parts and pieces so far cost me 2,000$ alot of mystery ranch or kifaru or stone glacier, kuiu, exo mt gear, tactical tailor, eberlestock etc start at 680$ for a bigger pack like 75 liters and up. Typically 850$ and up. My tents r 1,100$ and up. Hilleberg tents or fjallrsven etc. My point is not to preach what i pay but bring perspective. 400 is lower for alot of people. Im poverty level for a few years and ill tell u if u want something u can find a way to pay for it legally. Its priorities. Tactical bags that r comfortable and civilian offered r so expensive. But their amazing. Hunting packs that r amazing and so comfortable r expensive yet amazing. The materials and craftsmanship is beyond awesome plus the modularity.

@madspedersen5756 10 месяцев назад

@justinoutdoors what is the name of the hike?

@teutates619 Месяц назад

Too many of you outdoor youtubers shout. I cannot stand watching just because of that. Must be a north American thing, I don’t care but I hate ot.

@teutates619 Месяц назад

It*

@benbog2 5 месяцев назад

The 'coldness' experience is primarily a result of being on an ice cube. It is all about "Heatflow" (Cold Flow) transfer. The ice is an excellent "conductor' of cold. But you also have to think about the ice as a 'cold sink'. This phenomenon is used in Food Processing industry to quick freeze/chill foods. And part of that is the phase change btu requirement to have the ice go from solid to liquid. As good as a multi-baffle pad is at slowing heat transfer a closed cell foam pad under this pad would have made a world of difference. While we experience this as 'Cold Flow" it is really about the heat flow out of our body. Closed cell Foam is always going to beat baffled air but any kind of strand/fiber fill insulation mat will also beat even baffled air.