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@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 3 месяца назад
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@WoodworkingTop535
@WoodworkingTop535 2 месяца назад
thanks you for sharing
@SuperShermans
@SuperShermans 3 месяца назад
I completely agree, I have the Ridgid and Milwaukee track saw. I love both of them, I really think they are very comparable, especially running the Ridgid 12 AH and the Milwaukee Forge. Good job !!
@scottmorris4914
@scottmorris4914 3 месяца назад
I decided to go ahead and purchase a track saw. Was tired of fighting a straight edge clamp that would shift when I clamped it. I was on the M18 battery platform, and the was a sale for the M18 track saw, included a 55” track and track clamps. Got it in, and I am very happy with the purchase, Adjustments, riving knife, etc.
@johnterdik4707
@johnterdik4707 2 месяца назад
Several years ago, I purchased the Festool and fell in love with it. Last year I was using it, suddenly it was making weird noises and started to smoke. I sent it to Festool for a repair estimate. I was shocked by the estimate (sorry I don't remember what it was) and the very limited warranty. After my research, I decided to go with the Makita. During one cut (sheet goods), due to an error on my part, the blade was pinched as it finished the cut. The saw jumped backwards, damaged the track edge, rode up on top of the track cutting a small chunk out of the track. During the cuts, I did notice that it would slightly bog down. With Festool, I never noticed the motor bogging down. For me, adjusting the cut depth was more difficult on the Makita. Yes the Festool is MORE expensive than the Festool but knowing what I know now, I would purchase the Festool rather than the Makita. BTY, dust-collection on the Makita is as good as the Festool.
@Gunter_Custom
@Gunter_Custom 2 месяца назад
Sounds more like you should not be using power tools ..😂😂
@pcb1962
@pcb1962 3 месяца назад
I have the corded Festool. Since I'm only using it in my shop and I'm always going to have the dust hose attached anyway I don't see any benefit to cordless.
@CrookedSkew
@CrookedSkew 2 месяца назад
Same is true for sanders either in the shop or not. The moment dust extract is a thing, you might as well use the corded version.
@KW71975
@KW71975 8 часов назад
No room for real 400v pro machines ? ( my job is with 230 v festool cord machine every day )
@ProfessorVector
@ProfessorVector 3 месяца назад
I agree Milwaukee based on price and battery system, last time the Milwaukee won with you on battery options. Great review should of had prices on all models.
@macgriffiths2043
@macgriffiths2043 2 месяца назад
I would like to see the Makita 40v compared. It only uses one battery and is narrower. I have been using the 36v for years and it has been solid.
@alanworks4354
@alanworks4354 3 месяца назад
I’d like to see a battery/longevity shootout between the Makita and Milwaukee. How much cutting can you do before having to recharge?
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib 2 месяца назад
I think makita will release the xgt version soon too.
@richardbergmans1031
@richardbergmans1031 3 месяца назад
Thank you for this review, very helpfull. I am going for the thewalt for jobsite straight cutting, and the festool for fine woodworking. The possibillity to adjust the rating based on things I find iportant, makes an good review in my opnion.
@jsmxwll
@jsmxwll 3 месяца назад
i picked up the corded Wen with 2 55" tracks for $160 all in. i only got it to break down plywood. put some epoxy putty in the bevel adjustment once i had it dead set at 90° so there is no movement or flex. works great for the one purpose i got it for. the depth adjustment has slipped on me a couple times so i removed it and 3d printed some clip in stops for specific depths. for the money, i'm happy with it, but i wouldn't recommend it to most people.
@Justin-C
@Justin-C 2 месяца назад
I've had the Makita 36V for a few years and it's been great. A while ago, I impulse-bought the M18 when I saw it on deep discount, largely because I wanted to consolidate to M18 & have a track saw that uses just 1 battery. They're so close/comparable that I haven't been able to bring myself to sell the Makita yet. So naturally, I still have both...
@chrisj9008
@chrisj9008 7 дней назад
I use the dewalt track saw. It's been amazing. The odd pivoting I was show by dewalt was actually and engineer difference allowing better plunging or something. I don't personally see the advantage how I use it, but I remember at the time being shown and going...ah... I got mine for a steel with a sale that I swear was a misprint and for my investment it trumps anything I have ever scene. I bought the 102"track.. i need a short track still. . The 102 is great for sheet rips but must things I cut are far less and then it's almost to much.
@andrewwhite889
@andrewwhite889 Месяц назад
I would have liked to see a review of a Bosch track saw. I have several Bosch cordless tools and would like to remain with the same batteries. BTW, I even purchased a Bosch cordless weed whacker from Amazon UK a couple years ago. Works great. I just had to buy an inexpensive battery adapter since Bosch has a slightly different battery on its lawn care tools.
@LickorishAllsorts
@LickorishAllsorts 2 месяца назад
The Dewalt does have another small feature that some might find useful. It is fitted with square to the blade runners on the blade guard side. If you are happy with the clearance, this can make it possible to trim off the bottom of a door parallel to the floor without taking it off the hinges.
@66meikou
@66meikou Месяц назад
Good review of the offerings. Having owned the Fezzy and the Mak I found them to be very similar in terms of use and quality. The one thing I haven't figured out is that the majority of people are right handed so a left sided blade saw is more natural to use. Most of these saws, you have to use left handed or cock your hand over at a weird angle to use your right hand. Personally, as I work in a shop, I don't need a cordless saw. You already have the dust extractor hose attached so a power cord isn't adding any complication.
@WoodworkerDan
@WoodworkerDan 3 месяца назад
Great video. I think you absolutely nailed it with your rankings.
@j.justin1511
@j.justin1511 3 месяца назад
Great reviews, Matt. Thank you. Makes me feel better about eventually buying the Dewalt tool, as I've been in that battery system for a while now. God bless, brother!
@bobbytables4305
@bobbytables4305 3 месяца назад
Based on your's and other woodtubers recommendations I have been absolutly impressed with how clean the Milwaukee is/has been. One specific note to mention, there are a number of people who complain about it's "non-standard" arbor size (20mm). They litterally use this complaint to drive the saw down because they can't run cheaper/alternative blade options on it. Which fair enough, the problem is I believe this was a very specific and calculated engineering FEATURE to prevent injury. The 20 mm will make you less likely to use blades whose kerf is less wide than the riving knife which could create a dangerous situation and almost garantee kickback. Futhermore, I am of the opinion the kerf is so wide because it give the riving blade more ridgitity. It would be nice to know what the caliper readout is on each with a riving knife to confirm this small detail.
@floridasaltlife
@floridasaltlife 3 месяца назад
I got Milwaukee m18 stuff already so easy to go that direction.
@mrgunn2726
@mrgunn2726 3 месяца назад
Matt, you continue to impress with your balanced reviews, great advice, and your focus on the common person and their wallet. Thank you!
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 3 месяца назад
I appreciate that!
@CorwinBos
@CorwinBos 3 месяца назад
Fair review! I have kicked about going with either the Makita or Milwaukee. I have a ton of Milwaukee batteries, but Im not opposed to buying into a saw that comes with enough batteries like the Makita. I may end up buying the corded Makita simply because its less pricey, but time will tell.
@smnkm4ehfer
@smnkm4ehfer 3 месяца назад
You'll be more than happy with the Makita; and you'll be blown away by the Makita batteries in comparison to the others(batteries are an expensive part of cordless tools and the Makitas last FOREVER. I've got two 3aH batteries that are going on 11 years old and they still work like new, charge quickly, hold a charge properly, operate as expected, gets hard use everyday in a shop environment, and have outlasted every other cordless tool batteries I've ever tried(including all the guys at work).
@CorwinBos
@CorwinBos 3 месяца назад
@@smnkm4ehfer I've been watching for the corded version of the Makita to go on a decent sale. I run dust collection already so what is the difference if I pull a cord and a hose, or just the hose? Almost nothing in the grand scheme. I have not used Makita enough to give a fair assessment of the battery platform, but I do like Makita corded tools. My choice many years was to go to the M18 platform, and I haven't looked back. For what I use my cordless tools for, it was the best route at the time and I haven't regretted it
@norussian556
@norussian556 3 месяца назад
triton and the wen corded are the same saw. but you can get the wen in a 7-1/4" blade with a 5/8 arbor and you can pick up cheaper blades at any hardware store, unlike every other saw on this list that needs a 20mm arbor special ordered blade.
@olachus
@olachus 3 месяца назад
I greatly appreciate your effort and investment in all those tools to give us a fair comparison. I will remain a Milwaukee guy and I'm not sorry for that. I already have the platform and the Packout and I'm more than happy to see it performs amazingly. I know, the price is not so friendly, but you get what you paid for. Many blessings!
@eddiekamin
@eddiekamin 3 месяца назад
I have a Triton and a Kreg Adaptive Cutting saw. I've had the Triton for my "Traveling" track saw and of course, the Kreg for shop use. The Kreg has burned out already. I did like the saw but for what I paid and how little I used it..... It should have lasted much longer. I will stick with my Triton but wish I could find a hinge system to replace the Kreg system on my adaptive table. Loved the review...My next will be a Milwaukee for sure.
@richardpieper5251
@richardpieper5251 Месяц назад
Another plus for the Ridgid track saw would be the Lifetime warranty. Great video and I actually own the Kreg and the DeWalt.
@scottk7713
@scottk7713 16 дней назад
I would love your opinion on the Metabo HPT 32v Track Saw
@epicurustaylor5954
@epicurustaylor5954 2 месяца назад
Is there a reason you did not include Bosch. It is possible to make plunge cuts with track saws. This helps for sink cut outs and such. Track saws with riving knife can not do that.
@Zerostar369
@Zerostar369 2 месяца назад
Ive been using the cheapo Shop Fox(Grizzly) version for several years. Its great for plywood but thats about it. I think I paid about $180 for it and the 55" track about 5 years ago.
@natesewell9402
@natesewell9402 3 месяца назад
I'm curious if you've used a Forge platform battery on the Milwaukee track saw and if you noticed any difference in power if so.
@Blade0427
@Blade0427 2 месяца назад
Bosch I was curious about, I am a milwalkee, and fest fan, but Makita getting better, my platform is in Milwaukee. So if I was looking to get one, and could afford I would most likely go with Milwaukee, because that is the platform I have.
@thesandman775
@thesandman775 3 месяца назад
Nice, objective analysis. Good video for those looking at track saws. Personally using the corded Makita track saw and it's been a wonderful tool.
@bucksawlilgoose
@bucksawlilgoose 3 месяца назад
Why is the Bosch saw not included?
@millardscott5646
@millardscott5646 3 месяца назад
This review was excellent. Thanks for doing this video. They don't make them much better than this.
@edwardnielsenjr1039
@edwardnielsenjr1039 2 месяца назад
Yo Matt, any plans to review the Metabo HPT multivolt track saw?
@souldigits_9545
@souldigits_9545 3 месяца назад
Have a power tip about the makita 36v not seen à lot. Starting a top tip power tool channel soon
@dombaker1924
@dombaker1924 2 месяца назад
Agree with the makita storage, milwaukee packout far superior. But I think the Makita 40v would come out on top here.
@JacobandAlaina
@JacobandAlaina 3 месяца назад
I am on the m18 platform, that said I wish you had mentioned the red plastic guard on the side of that saw
@vmoutsop
@vmoutsop 3 месяца назад
I got the Triton, it was between the Kreg and the Triton and the track compatibility was the difference. Also, I would have definitively purchased the Ridgid if it was corded.
@mortil
@mortil 3 месяца назад
Bought a new track saw this week . had an old Festool from the 80s. have used friends ts55 saws . and they all lack a bit of power. and when i went to my shop asked for a new one he was like you should have the TS60... and im like but i would be fine with a TS55.. but i got a awesome price and walked away with a TS60 and damn . Daaaaaaayumn . it do not even notice when i saw thru 15mm plywood . its like butter.
@GokouZWAR
@GokouZWAR 2 месяца назад
just my two cents here, yes the Makita has a plastic insert on their storage, but it does come $150 cheaper than the Milwaukee. Honestly if the build quality, power, compatibility and everything matches a 28/30, and the price is $150 cheaper, well, price matters too. I think that would make it win over Milwaukee just for that reason alone. You're getting top tier track saw, cheaper than the other top tier track saws...
@Disordinate
@Disordinate 3 месяца назад
Just build or buy a corsi rosenthal box. Better then most of what commercially available especially for the reasonable price range and customizable for your needs I.E. odors, mold, chemicals, or just particles.
@thku1623
@thku1623 23 дня назад
I do have the corded version of the makita - and my dad has the corded version of the festool. I like Festools depth adjustment much more. Is it worth the extra cost? Probably not. ;)
@skilledbloom3478
@skilledbloom3478 3 месяца назад
Every cordless makita saw i have has an anti kickback feature. The blade stops completely when putting the saw in a bind. I've binded my track saw once and my regular circular saw many times.
@georgecoffman377
@georgecoffman377 3 месяца назад
I’m all Dewalt but I liked the Mikita track saw way better and also Mikita rear handle 18 v saw.
@lynnvinzant9955
@lynnvinzant9955 Месяц назад
Please review the Bosch track saw.
@steveloughry610
@steveloughry610 3 месяца назад
Don’t you ever build things anymore? I like your reviews, but still like seeing people using their tools and talents!
@steveloughry610
@steveloughry610 3 месяца назад
I really wanted a straight answer from you rather than giving me your list of best track saws! Why don’t you build things any longer?
@flatlander523
@flatlander523 Месяц назад
What is wrong with the Festool. At 26:23 it is spewing dust like crazy. Festool has anti kickback but Kreg also has anti kickback! Kreg should be a strong 20 🙂
@77gmcnut
@77gmcnut 3 месяца назад
I have the corded Makita and consider it the best value for the money
@saleemalkinani3496
@saleemalkinani3496 3 месяца назад
You forgot the most important feature in festool. The bluetooth which will run the dust extractors automatically. You can get this feature only with wired one if you go with other brands.
@downbytheriver501
@downbytheriver501 3 месяца назад
Doesn’t the XGT Makita 40v have Bluetooth?
@IndianaJBird
@IndianaJBird 3 месяца назад
Will the KEB fit in the Milwaukee packout?
@MrSmackdab
@MrSmackdab 3 месяца назад
I have both milwaukee and dewalt and I almost always use the dewalt because of its power. Face it, most rips are going to be at 90 degrees not to mention most of us have trust issues when it comes to bevel cuts and will gauge it anyway no matter what saw you use. Plus it's half the price of Festool
@VanVeenTraining
@VanVeenTraining 2 месяца назад
Makita now has a 40 V version with a 8 Ah battery option.
@tonychinnery
@tonychinnery Месяц назад
Why buy cordless if you are hitched up to a dust extractor that has to be plugged ihto the mains?
@EricFerguson-u4r
@EricFerguson-u4r 3 месяца назад
I have never had a track saw, I still use plus skill saw , yes I've had it rough ever always a new blade. Now I'm at track saw or a new table saw and again my table saw is very old. I take care of my tools.
@guate6
@guate6 2 месяца назад
Corded festool is great.
@toughgamer2960
@toughgamer2960 3 месяца назад
Awesome vid! Just one suggestion - give the 40v makita XGT tracksaw a try and you'll find it actually feels really nice, plus it's got plenty of power. I'm an amateur woodworker and I'm scared by table saws the makita has been my main tool in the workshop and I've created a few amazing pieces with it. Comparing to the 36v version which requires 2 18v batteries, the xgt version only requires 1 battery and best part is the battery side is not sticking out of the track so if you are using it in tight spaces or you have a clamp on that side it will not get in the way.
@toughgamer2960
@toughgamer2960 3 месяца назад
oh the only thing is, the makpack container for the xgt version is still crap - just a thin plastic mould that doesn't provide much protection at all :(
@downbytheriver501
@downbytheriver501 3 месяца назад
@@toughgamer2960I just put all my Makita tools in Milwaukee packout boxes and ask my local rep for Makita stickers to put over the Milwaukee insignia 😆
@toughgamer2960
@toughgamer2960 3 месяца назад
@@downbytheriver501 🤣
@msolace580
@msolace580 3 месяца назад
if we dont use any battery lines, who wins for a plug in ?
@AlexKall
@AlexKall 3 месяца назад
Good raking that I can support!
@mn6720
@mn6720 2 месяца назад
There should be positive mention with Milwaukee’s only needing 1 battery…
@mn6720
@mn6720 2 месяца назад
I’m sorry you’re big fan boy…you need to knock festool for not having anti tip…you did for the cheaper brand…
@michaelhemelt3133
@michaelhemelt3133 2 месяца назад
King of Budget track saws in Wen $200 bucks for track and saw other "budget" saw he mentions are $350 just for the saw.
@JimDoubleYa
@JimDoubleYa 3 месяца назад
Great video! Metabo-HPT/HiKOKI just released their track saw in North America. It'd be great to see a review of it!
@davidroderick1493
@davidroderick1493 3 месяца назад
Solid review, that's for sure.
@kayvaanshr1ke
@kayvaanshr1ke 2 месяца назад
I’m in Australia. I own the Festool mainly because every Milwaukee saw I’ve bought, which is a lot, has had to go back for warranty issues within 8 months. This isn’t great when you work 3 hours away from the service centre and they take the tool for two weeks. My Festool has run flawlessly for 3 years now and has never had to go back for any reason. It gets used often and has sheeted 7 sheds worth of ply so far.
@cabman86
@cabman86 2 месяца назад
I use a straight board and a Skilsaw.
@drewyoung2102
@drewyoung2102 2 месяца назад
I would not use battery on these power hogs. I use Makita or makita for rough cut and table saw. I think either is just fine but never get off brands from big box stores. Next year model is gone and it is throw away.
@Itsreallymarcus
@Itsreallymarcus 3 месяца назад
Is this channel going to build ever again? Feel like I’ve seen 100 track saw videos lol.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 3 месяца назад
Maybe. Maybe not.
@sociopathmercenary
@sociopathmercenary 3 месяца назад
Got to go with what builds the channel and gets the views. Plenty of other built channels on the tube.
@mortenwinslw2785
@mortenwinslw2785 2 месяца назад
If they ever break you can get a lot of spare parts for Makita and they are not that expensive. Milwaukee doesn't have so many spare parts and they are expensive.
@bigdraycountry764
@bigdraycountry764 3 месяца назад
Hey o/ (
@andrewb4584
@andrewb4584 3 месяца назад
I have a friend who bought some "squares" from wish. I use quotes because they aren't, well, square to anything or anyone. I've not purchased or known anyone to purchase a track from Temu, Wish, or the like. What I'd ask you is... The money you save over buying a name brand, is it more or less than the wood you'll be cutting over it's life. I bought 4x8x3/4 red oak laminate ply to build a 45rpm record rack a few days ago. It was around $85/sheet. Do you want to mess that up over multiple sheets? It hurts for the good tracks. But it hurts once. These are pretty much lifetime purchases. Be smart about it.
@bigdraycountry764
@bigdraycountry764 3 месяца назад
@@andrewb4584 But if the track is straight and does the job needed (but at a fraction of the cost) wouldnt it technically be just as good as the higher end tracks though? Which is why Im asking if anybody has had any experience with said tracks.
@andrewb4584
@andrewb4584 3 месяца назад
@@bigdraycountry764 That's a big if, though. To add another if, should it show up with a bad tearout strip, and poor tolerances, can you send it back for a refund? Should you want to go with a lesser brand, I'd advise buying it from a place like Amazon where they'll at least accept returns. Temu and Wish frequently require you sending it back to Asia for your refund. Which economically isn't feasible. Your call. Your cash. Just giving you experiences with some of their other woodworking tools. Search RU-vid, you'll find that answer repeated, for most experiences.
@RobHortn
@RobHortn 3 месяца назад
I've already bought a Wen but haven't unboxed it yet ... so I hope Wen ... wins. See what I did there? I'll see myself out.
@Kreacher1974
@Kreacher1974 3 месяца назад
The tie breaker should be overall the Makita doesn't come close to comparing to Milwaukee in all around tools. Makita's other battery tools are crap and Milwaukee's other battery powered tools are mostly exceptional
@joeking433
@joeking433 3 месяца назад
Ryobi just isn't what they once were. At one time they were a consumer grade tool maker that made some really nice tools for the money. But now they're going for the money grab and pricing their tools the same price of the top tier tool companies like Milwaukee, DeWalt, Makita, and Bosch. I used to buy Ryobi but now I find the top tier tool makers the far better value, especially DeWalt which is often even cheaper than Ryobi. I think the some Ryobi products are still a good value such as the nailguns, glue guns, tire pump, PVC pipe cutter, and dust buster.
@sociopathmercenary
@sociopathmercenary 3 месяца назад
I have Ryobi tools and I disagree. They have their brushless tools now, which compete with some of the other contractor grade tools. However, they still sell their regular brushed tools for much less $$$. I only buy tools when they're on sale at Home Depot or Direct Tools Outlet. I just picked up a brushless 7.25 inch circular saw for $89 at DTO. Last week, I got the Ryobi Days deal for $99 with the batteries and a free 3/8 ratchet. I returned the batteries so I got the ratchet for $42. Around the holidays, I can buy two 4 amp hour batteries for $79. I probably have 20 Ryobi tools and a dozen batteries for the price of a Milwaukee or DeWalt combo kit. Never had a Ryobi tool fail to do the job or let me down. The reduced cost allows me to buy a lot of specialty tools that I would never be able to afford with the contractor grade tools.
@billr4677
@billr4677 3 месяца назад
Where’s the Bosch. It’s not that bad.
@henrybonnett
@henrybonnett 3 месяца назад
Was the Grizzly made in the USA ?
@ed-jf3xh
@ed-jf3xh 3 месяца назад
I like the t-shirt.
@allenriff9242
@allenriff9242 3 месяца назад
I'll stick with my Festool TS 75 it will leave all these in saw dust.
@my_master512
@my_master512 Месяц назад
He tried to take out his Milwaukee Fanboy card but failed as he gave the Milwaukee track song slightly more points for coming with a pack out box but completely ignored the fact that Makita has the biggest tool selection on a single battery platform out of all cordless power tool platforms🤔
@wbautista78
@wbautista78 3 месяца назад
I hope I can get the Kreg because of the price budget
@nightstar5077
@nightstar5077 3 месяца назад
Festool Bestool! Nearly indestructible and great repairability
@johnlochary395
@johnlochary395 3 месяца назад
I just bought my second track saw. I am in the DeWalt battery family didn't want to deal with battery for my track saw. So, i bought the Dewalt corded track saw. I have to hook up a vac hose. Why not a cord too. Waiting for my tracks to come in. Keep up the good work and thanks
@scottyellis3442
@scottyellis3442 3 месяца назад
The only thing bad about Festool is way overpriced.
@das250250
@das250250 3 месяца назад
What happened to price as a rating ? Bang for buck..
@seanamos9441
@seanamos9441 3 месяца назад
Too bad you didn't include Bosch. Their track Saw has been amazing for me. Never had one complaint. Great video, thank you!
@ogwoodworks
@ogwoodworks 3 месяца назад
Strongly agree. I also have the Bosch and it is a beast. Powerful, accurate, and great dust collection. The guide rails are also excellent and they have the best track connector of any system. In his defence, the Bosch TS doesn't get a lot of love in the US and Canada because Bosch does a terrible job of marketing it here. Bosch/Mafell is very popular in Europe because they actively market and support the product over there. It's also much harder to buy aftermarket accessories compared to Festool, Makita etc. because companies like TSO completely ignore Bosch. Fortunately European companies like Benchdogs make great accessories for it such as rail squares, rail hinges and parallel guides. I've never understood why Bosch doesn't market their track saw system better because they push all of their other power tools quite aggressively in North America. Any Bosch reps out there listening?
@realJohnJohn
@realJohnJohn 3 месяца назад
bosh usually more expensive in the usa
@ogwoodworks
@ogwoodworks 3 месяца назад
@@realJohnJohn They're in the middle from what I can see. Slightly more expensive than the other top saws from Makita and Milwaukee. But much cheaper than Festool.
@Surmoka
@Surmoka 3 месяца назад
@@ogwoodworks on the other side, Default and Milfookee cost about 2x more in Europe, and there is a limited selection. Still better than like 10yrs ago when they weren't available in EU at all. And, to add salt to the wound, the dark grey Flex lineup is completely non-existent in Europe. All I can do is watch the reviews of them and envy. I'd build up my collection from them for sure.
@MadddSkillzzz
@MadddSkillzzz 3 месяца назад
The Bosch GKT55 is basically a Mafell. Don't know if there's any relation between their battery powered options, but yeah, Bosch is strong with these.
@Lugnut64052
@Lugnut64052 3 месяца назад
I've had a Wen 7&1/4" corded saw for a few years. At the time it was the cheapest track saw around. Thought I wouldn't use it too much, but I've ended up using it A LOT. Built two kitchens with it. Running it on Powertec tracks it works fine for breaking down sheet goods. I'm perfectly happy with it.
@AdventureswithJack453
@AdventureswithJack453 3 месяца назад
I just purchased the 7 1/4 " Wen track saw. IMHO it can't be beat for it's value. I just can't justify the money for those top 3 choices. By the way, want to save money on track? Buy WEN, their track works with all 3 of your top choices.
@kimmeldesign
@kimmeldesign 3 месяца назад
I second the Wen. Been working great for me.
@MucaroBoricua
@MucaroBoricua 21 день назад
The same here!
@burwoodbuild
@burwoodbuild 3 месяца назад
Decent reviews there ⬆️ 👏🏼 I’m usually a DeWalt user… However I went for a Festool track saw as I needed precision and preferred the plunge action. Kit here comes with batteries so not an issue.
@ryanmcgraw1743
@ryanmcgraw1743 Месяц назад
Milwaukee is ~$200 more than the Makita....that makes Makita the winner for me. A foam insert in the packout isn't worth $200.
@bwizzy9218
@bwizzy9218 Месяц назад
Amen. I’ll put some foam in there myself if it’s needed 😂
@callummalseed7908
@callummalseed7908 19 дней назад
Is my country Australia, just for the skin, no kit, the milwaukee is $150 cheaper, and in a kit the makita is 150 cheaper. Its strange the difference between countries
@DuffyGabi
@DuffyGabi 3 месяца назад
I am a contractor and I’m a bit unusual. I absolutely hate all the batteries. Other than drills, I avoid cordless like the plague.
@downbytheriver501
@downbytheriver501 3 месяца назад
Try Makita 40/80 volt systems someday and you’ll be eating your own words. I promise you. 😂
@letsRegulateSociopaths
@letsRegulateSociopaths 2 месяца назад
from a pollution/sustainability view they are ALWAYS going to be better than no matter what comes out next.
@mcapaldi3
@mcapaldi3 2 месяца назад
@@downbytheriver501 why? Genuinely curious
@downbytheriver501
@downbytheriver501 2 месяца назад
@@mcapaldi3 every one of the 40/80v Makita tools I own are as powerful as the corded variant and the batteries seem to last forever. Any time I let someone try my tools, they’re blown away too. And not having to deal with cords on tools that aren’t stationary is massive as far as efficiency goes. I had a project last week putting in joists on a house where the nearest power was 250’ away. Usually I use my corded Bosch 10/12” slider chop saws because they’re one of my favorite remaining corded tools (their tablesaw is one of the others), but running that much cord is impractical and not smart. So I broke out the 40 volt 12” Makita slider saw. I was able to cut all the crush blocks for the joists with less than 2 4ah batteries. That’s about 100 cuts through 3.5”x12” TJIs. Get a bigger battery and you could set a saw up like this on site and run it all day and never have to change out the battery. Not sure why people still living in the past thinking cordless tech hasn’t evolved drastically over the last 10 years but I’m totally fine with it cause I have plenty of high quality tools I need to sell.
@homemadelemonade976
@homemadelemonade976 24 дня назад
We use cordless for everything except demolition hammers and concrete breakers, 9' grinders and track sanders. My father was concerned about the power of the tools and how long will the tools and batteries last. Our Makita tools withheld 4 years without a single issue and downtime, except for our 36V rotary hammer which after 3 years of heavy use burnt its motor out, likely because it overheated. The practical nature of not having to set up a cord is easily understated. We work at remote sites and sometimes you can't get electricity if the neighborhood is empty apartment buildings. Work on roof and high places is also safer and less cumbersome if there is no cord to worry about. 13 18V Makita tools and 22 batteries, and recently we purchased 4 40V XGT tools and batteries, as we look to upgrade several of our tools to a beefier platform. 4 years of work with 18V Makita tools, I can tell you corded is so much better.
@loosebootwoodworking
@loosebootwoodworking 3 месяца назад
I'm proud of you for bringing in Makita to the mix of your tool reviews. I've been using them for 20+ years and have never looked back. Thanks for sharing your opinions and for explaining all the features.
@smnkm4ehfer
@smnkm4ehfer 3 месяца назад
Their batteries have no rivals, or even peers. They just outlast everyone else ha ds down.
@NGMonocrom
@NGMonocrom 3 месяца назад
As usual, honest and independent testing.... Milwaukee always comes out at or very near the top. Just honestly wish I had Milwaukee money to buy their tools.
@sociopathmercenary
@sociopathmercenary 3 месяца назад
Agree that they have great tools. I went with Ryobi. No regrets at all. They do everything that I need to do as a DIYer, I've never had one of their tools fail, and a reasonable pricing allows me to get a lot of specialty tools that I could never afford with a contractor brand like Milwaukee or DeWalt.
@NGMonocrom
@NGMonocrom 3 месяца назад
@@sociopathmercenary I standardized on Ryobi as well, and wish I felt the same way. The more I learn, the more it seems that Milwaukee doesn't make Contractor-grade tools. They just make quality tools. The type of tools grand-pa could easily afford when he was a younger man; for maintaining his home. The type of tools that were the standard for DIYers back then. Nowadays, if you want affordable tools around the house, you have to get lesser quality ones.
@sociopathmercenary
@sociopathmercenary 3 месяца назад
@@NGMonocrom I can afford Milwaukee but just don't see the point. It's like buying a Corvette to commute to work.
@NGMonocrom
@NGMonocrom 3 месяца назад
@@sociopathmercenary True, but why not? 😂
@sociopathmercenary
@sociopathmercenary 3 месяца назад
@@NGMonocrom If it gives you joy, go for it! I budget myself wherever I can so I can splurge a little when I want. I work from home so I have a 15-year-old car that I keep maintained but only gets a thousand miles a year on it. Hard to justify spending more and it let's me get my wife something nicer with no complaints about the handful of motorcycles in the garage. I budget myself on tools but probably have 50 firearms and a pallet of ammo. We can take vacations whenever we feel like it. I got laid off a few months ago and I just shrugged and have been enjoying the time off. Money doesn't make you happy but it gives you options. However, probably about time to start looking for a job again. LOL
@SandyMasquith
@SandyMasquith 3 месяца назад
For years I saved and saved thinking of buying the Festool track saw. Then... Milwaukee has a track saw.... and everyone has a "decent" track saw offering. I went with Milwaukee since I already have Packout and M18 batteries. Then again, I also have Systainer as I do have a Festool sander and a Festool dust extractor. Ah well, I love the Milwaukee track saw. It adjusts accurately, it cuts precisely and it has decent storage and works with accessories. Thanks for doing all this work, Matt. Your videos are great at explaining the details that are so important in these tool purchase decisions.
@Dustins_Woodworking
@Dustins_Woodworking 3 месяца назад
Would you ever compare all the corded track saws? I always prefer a cord over a battery.
@PandorasFolly
@PandorasFolly 3 месяца назад
Yeah corded for a trackball seems the way to go in a shop
@williambrodmanvi5944
@williambrodmanvi5944 3 месяца назад
The tools are very much starting to exceed corded tool performance in many instances 36v 40v and even some 60v performance compared to corded is very much surpassed whats available in plug in offerings. I never thought such a day would come but it very much has. Heck high torque impact greatly surpass their phnematic counter parts . I would have not believed it if someone had said that a makita 18v would out perform in every way my trusty old saved many a day Mac ugga dugga!
@PandorasFolly
@PandorasFolly 3 месяца назад
@@williambrodmanvi5944 yeah at this point just making cordless versions and offering a plug in adapter makes a lot of sense.
@lburwell99
@lburwell99 3 месяца назад
I'm leaning towards a corded one, probably Kreg or maybe the plug in Wen. My brother just got the corded Wen and has been pretty happy with it, and it's a lot cheaper than the Kreg. I have Ryobi tools and have been pretty happy with them. I'm a little disappointed in the reviews of their track saw though. I'm also hesitant to get a tool in a different battery platform, so I'm thinking a cord won't be that big of a deal and I should just do that.
@GregsWorkshopOregon
@GregsWorkshopOregon 3 месяца назад
The best part about a corded track saw IMHO is the ability to plug it into a dust collector and have it come on automatically when you start the saw.
@tinkerer4
@tinkerer4 3 месяца назад
I run that Makita and love it. This is a fair review (finally!). The Milwaukee did not exist when I bought mine. If I were starting from scratch, I think Team Red would just barely scrape out ahead of the competition. Go with whatever battery platform you'd rather be on. If you have both, go with whichever is on sale. The Makita goes on sale about every 18-ish months at Home Depot. I suspect the same will happen with the Milwaukee.
@kellenholt6655
@kellenholt6655 3 месяца назад
Same boat as me - if the Milwaukee had existed when I bought my Makita, I would have gone team red. Such is the world of tool buying.
@smnkm4ehfer
@smnkm4ehfer 3 месяца назад
Milwaukee makes good tools(unless you get one of the couple models of impacts that kill themselves right out of the box) but their batteries don't last. My OG Makita LXT 18v drill and impact driver are over 10 years old and still using the original batteries from over 10 years ago, and they still outperform the Milwaukee batteries. All the other guys at work are team red and they go through batteries like crazy and I've never had a Makita battery go bad, and I've got about $8k worth of makita tools and batteries.
@AlexKall
@AlexKall 3 месяца назад
For me Makita would still edge out, the red tools are not as common here where I live and the repairability and reliability of Makita edge out over the red tools which is important in my book, which isn't covered in the review for obvious reasons.
@johnpombrio
@johnpombrio 2 месяца назад
@@smnkm4ehfer I even have had good luck with Makita battery knockoffs working well. They are OK compatible with the charger (sometimes the fully charged green light does not come on), the run time even after a few years of use is still great, and have good power output. I have my whole shop running on Makita batteries so that would be a no-brainer for me. I have no use for a track saw tho, as I am getting too old to sling sheet goods around.
@timgurr1876
@timgurr1876 Месяц назад
Great review. One of my first selection criteria is where the product is manufactured. I try to buy built in USA, but price, quality, expandability, and features are also considered. I’m just a DIYer for home jobs. I have an original Skil Saw that’s around 55 years old and still running. Unfortunately, the new 6.5 inch blades seem to be thinner than what they used to be. It’s amazing what a few thousandths of an inch can do in not being able to securely tighten the blade. What advantage (if any) does a blade saw have over a table saw? Trying to decide where to spend my money. Also, can a blade saw be used without the blade and is there a limited distance it can cut without the blade? Thanks again.
@neko2849
@neko2849 3 месяца назад
Uh at least two are missing, the Mafell and the Bosch. For anyone that can get their hands on the corded version of the Bosch (Mafell replica), this would be the best buy. The track system that Bosch has (shared with Mafell) is in a different league than the Festool one (that most others use).
@andrewclarkehomeimprovement
@andrewclarkehomeimprovement 2 месяца назад
Not going to buy cordless because of the absolutely stupid rip-off cost of batteries. That cost is on me. I work on domestic not site jobs so corded is cheaper and comes with infinite run time.
@williamstead6354
@williamstead6354 3 месяца назад
I've had the cordless Festool for about four years now, and it is a great tool, but if I was buying now, I'd go for the Milwaukee. For one thing, I prefer a riving knife over Festool's new kickback protection mechanism. Paradoxically, I suspect you're going to get more kickbacks from which you need protection with the kickback protection system. You can't really go wrong with any of your top 3 saws, though. They're all much better than what you could get when I started out.
@kwilliams2239
@kwilliams2239 3 месяца назад
There isn't a doubt that if I replaced my track saw, that it would be with another Festool but it would not be a cordless. I don't understand the fascination with cordless, then turning around and connecting it to a dust extractor. For one thing, you'd need something like Festool's Bluetooth batteries to turn on the extractor. Do the others have remote control of the dust extractor? As long as you're dragging a dust extractor hose around, what's the big deal with a power cord? Plug the power cord into the extractor and everything works together. Add some clips around the hose to hold the power cable and you won't even notice the power cord.
@MP99.
@MP99. 3 месяца назад
The Makita (same looking but different model number) has Bluetooth built in the tool not batteries and works with Makita dust extractors. And Makita has a cordless dust extractor so can be completely disconnected on jobsite. As a cabinet guy that is handy in houses that have power hundreds of feet away
@kwilliams2239
@kwilliams2239 3 месяца назад
@@MP99. Festool has the same. I guess the battery/tool Bluetooth connection doesn't matter so much. The Bluetooth battery allows all cordless tools to work. Bluetooth in the tool makes it battery independent. My Festool batteries are old enough that they don't have Bluetooth. I don't really care because I don't see a reason to use dust extraction with them. These are special cases (that I hadn't considered). The demos never show this aspect, just the fact that the little tail isn't needed, ignoring the elephant in the room.
@MP99.
@MP99. 3 месяца назад
@@kwilliams2239 Does festool have a cordless extractor? Very helpful on a jobsite in large homes where power is not closeby or on sites with no power at all. Bring a generator with you type of jobs
@kwilliams2239
@kwilliams2239 3 месяца назад
@@MP99. Yes, they have two. One is a systainer, so can be stacked with the tools/supplies. The other is a midi format extractor.
@cblack1863
@cblack1863 3 месяца назад
I agreed with every placement except for one. I'd put the Ridgid #4. Plenty of power for 99% of work. I don't see the downside on compatibility because the tracks are reasonable priced anyhow. Power doesn't outway the lack of anti-tip, cumbersome blade change, cumbersome track adjustment, and most importantly, the Jabba/Ursula indicator...For the $ I just don't see a lot of negatives? IMHO of course🤜🤜🤜🤜 Thanks for the vid!
@paulmartin2348
@paulmartin2348 3 месяца назад
I got very confused when I came to "outway". I read fast so that was mostly my bad as I had to try to understand what was being said. (Literacy is very overrated)
@cblack1863
@cblack1863 3 месяца назад
Lol "outweigh". My bad! Nice 'ketche'😉
@baloghlcb
@baloghlcb 2 месяца назад
I looked at all these saws and some others. I have quite a few Rigid and a couple Milwaukee tools. Just picked up the Rigid, with the 8 Ah battery and tracks. Didn't feel the need to spend more on the others as I will be using mine on the occasional home project and felt this would be a good fit. Also hard to beat the warranty as long as you register your tool.
@actionjksn
@actionjksn 3 месяца назад
I think the Milwaukee is the nicest one, but I'm on the DeWalt platform, and already had a couple of 60 volt batteries so I choose that one. I do have the Milwaukee Packout storage system.
@andrewunderwater2246
@andrewunderwater2246 3 месяца назад
I picked up the Milwaukee about 6 months ago and it quickly became one of my favorite tools to use. Glad to see it’s getting some love.
@cjlamber
@cjlamber 3 месяца назад
I'm a DIYer and really liked your review. I live in Australia so power tools are much more expensive. The lowest priced locally available track saw is AU $229. But it looks inferior to the Grizzly, Our Ryobi system is $499 for the basic with 1400mm track. The Makita 18v x2 (skin only) is AU$845. I have made my own track system using the cheapest Makita cordless saw and plywood tracks. They have served me well.
@petercroft9895
@petercroft9895 2 месяца назад
I have what is almost certainly that budget no-brand saw (Toolshed NZ), and it has been surprisingly good. I dont think it would survive being dropped, but the motor has been bombproof and done a ton of work - honestly, orders of magnitude better than the two $hite Bosch Green tools that I've had to bin after just a couple of hours cumulative work.
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