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Cody needs to send his maille to Tod Cutler and see if they can get through it with proper war arrows from a longbow. If that happened I'd be so stoked.
That's why there are hardly any armors rated for .50 and above. It's not that you can't stop *a* bullet of that caliber, it's that there so much energy there that even if you spread it over a plate it's still too much.
@@lgjm5562 that future is now baby, especially depending on how you slice that cake. The US military values a human like at around half a million. that is how much the family of a dead soldier receives for the death of their loved one, and in many cases its actually a little less than that. When you consider that many tanks, helicopters, and fighter jets cost into the tens of millions of dollars, the "armor" of modern soldiers is worth vastly more than the human lives opperating them! Isn't modern war and the art of calculating the worth of human life so fun!
I'm stuck in an infinite loop now because Cody said to watch this video after his finished, and now you are telling me to watch his after yours finishes
Probably a decent bit of leather under the chain would have stopped the arrow shaft going through. The blunt force trauma from the "cannon ball" would have taken out like all the ribs though (with enough padding underneath the mail still possibly survivable?).
@@fetzie23 The shock going through the body would probably also have fractured the spine in several places. People who hit the pavement from very tall buildings look relatively fine on the outside but bones on the opposite side of the impact are still shattered.
@@fetzie23 if it is possible to make the cannonball survivable, it'd probably be pretty difficult imo, but yeah chainmail would either be worn under other armors like scale, leather or plate with a layer of padded quilt underneath if I remember correctly. All that would definitely protect against an arrow since the chainmail definitely stopped the arrow and splintered it
Also back in them days they wouldn't of had carbon fiber, so the arrow body would of been wood or metal (most likely wood), and either turned to dust or just bent, and not splintered quite like carbon does. Any wood splinters being way less sharp than a thin bit of carbon, and much easier to break apart on contact with the chainmail.
Go watch Cody's Video!!!! He did an insane amount of work on it so it's the least you can do ;) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IyUrDWGtS24.html
To be fair, if you were wearing 200 pounds of chainmail, you might be more likely to survive an encounter because you would collapse from exhaustion before making it to the battle
You'd have a team of 4 squires with hooks on a rope and stick similar to a fishing pole but much sturdier, to lift up your chainmail and reduce the weight you have to bear as you walk in it.
@mrkiky 4 even more encumbered dudes with less martial training, tasty. I did chuckle though, cause I can imagine some king out there actually doing that.
brother with all due respect, I hope your comment is for the funnies. An average to good quality mail hauberk (knee to upper thigh length) weighed like 30 ish pounds. Add like 7-10 pounds of padded material under it, 1-3 pounds for a good helmet with padding and maybe like a 5 pounds for a rather heavy side-arm sword, like a pretty hefty and crude Falchion. You'd still be way under the 100 pound. They're all just normal peeps under that armour, fit and trained perhaps, but not a bodybuilder for lifting contests. Modern military gear gets up into the 100-150 range and that's only for mostly short periods and we also have on-the-go troop transport quite available, not some tired squire who's barely limping behind you in battle. Sorry if I came out angsty but I literally gave my bachelors degree on armour and I'm so tired of seeing the age old myth that it's some ridiculously heavy and restricting equipment, while in fact it was made-to-fit or at least modified-to-fit to owner. Cheerios.
@balrog99-41 I have yet to see old mail that is barely able to get picked up for a 2 ft by 3 ft section. My comment was talking about how grossly heavy Cody's chainmail was, not historical accurate mail. And they totally understand that the mail he made isn't even remotely close to historical or usable.
To be fair he is almost Always this Happy. ;) the only time I saw him sad I didn't blame him as I was also sad at the passing of Grant Thompson from TKOR
@@isaiahoconnor8236 I think he has been pretty low for a long time between the breakup with Canyon and the TY monetization issues. I think he is finally getting back to normal.
@Skorpychan I know from personal experience. Long story short bmy business took a massive covid induced hit, was struggling to find other work and landed on antidepressants . Got a job even though it was only a seasonal one and was able to get off of them.
Arrow: Survived. Big bullet: Still dead, but the guy behind you survived. You may survive the impact itself, but you'd probably bleed to death afterwards. Flung machete: Survived, but you wouldn't be happy about it.
@@mrkiky The arrow shaft would be stopped by the gambeson under the mail. The machete hit HARD, so you'd probably have bruised ribs at the very least, possibly cracked.
@@Skorpychan Well, if you had gambeson as well, sure. Otherwise that splintered carbon fiber shaft would've gone deep enough to do organ damage if you're unlucky enough, and would be really nasty to dig out all of those splinters anyway.
"These might shear off, then the rest of the arrow goes through." "But I would say that's not a failure of the chainmail." Tell that to the guy with an arrow in his chest. lol
No one wears chainmail on their bare chest. You wear it over a gambeson (thick padded coat) which is a surprisingly effective type of armor. It would stop those splinters easily. Given they shot a modern-day hunting arrow, that was designed to inflict nasty wounds on elks, who, in fact, do not wear armor. Medieval war arrows were much thicker, with sold steel arrowheads. they wouldn't squeeze between those links at all.
Where I work, we used EuroFlex ring mesh products. And it's incredible... YOU LITERALLY CANNOT GET STABBED! The rings are around 4.2 mm in diameter, and every single individual ring has been WELDED, which makes all the rings basically IMPOSSIBLE to just "stab" through with your most powerful blow.
6:22 No French Carabinier (who had received their brass gilded cuirasses in 1809) would have worn chainmail at any time, certainly not by the time of the Battle of Waterloo and not François Antoine Fauveau the poor unfortunate soul of the 2e Régiment de Carabiniers from whom this cuirass was recovered.
What I love most about this, is nobody would ever wear chainmail just bare chested ( they also would never wear chainmail this heavy) but the gambeson would definitely have stopped those arrow shaft shards from penetrating into the skin even if they were wood and not carbon fiber.
Even it it's, say, 30% lighter or more and a proper shirt, I think it's the fact that it's welded and hardened that's showing a lot of the performance. If someone hasn't done some testing on how thick you can reasonably get with welded tempered rings while still carrying the rest of your gear and fighting, they should.
In the medieval period, quality of mail was directly proportionate to how teeny tiny fine the rings were. As this video shows, mail sucks at dealing with impact so it was mainly used to mitigate laceration and stabbing.
The circle of life brings me back around to this channel. I unsubscribed when Dan and Mitchel stopped making videos here, completely forgot about the channel until today when I watched Cody make the chainmail. It's a nice surprise to see this channel is still going and from the sounds of it, with the phantom cameras, you're going to have lots of opportunities for some amazing videos in the close future too!
I believe the sideways bullet was because of lack of spin allowing it to tumble. Since they justifiably aren't using a threaded metal barrel, they should be using a ball so it goes straighter and hits truer.
"if john wake had a pencil you'd be host" Recommendation: people rarely wore mail without a padded jacket underneath; the arrow shards likely wouldn't have made it as deep if you had that on underneath it
Since I see a lot of folks talking about it here, I would like to point out that no, gambesons were not commonly worn under mail. Gambesons were generally used as standalone armor. You would generally wear light undergarments under your metal armor, but it wasn't thickly padded and more so served to prevent chafing than to protect from things that got past the mail. Heat, weight and general mobility were always concerns and the average high medieval knight would be willing to accept a risk of suffering bruises or fractures when hit, if it meant they didn't slowly stew in the summer heat under their hauberks. This is actually quite visible if you look at 11th century sources like the Bayeux tapestry, where the fighters are generally drawn as very slim and wearing form-fitting hauberks and coifs. The time in which mail was the be all and end all of armor was also the time when your main defensive tool was your shield, not your armor. Your mail was a failsafe that might save your ass if you failed to stop or avoid an imcoming hit, but it wasn't expected to offer the same degree of near-invulnerability that late medieval plate could provide. Later on, as the technology developed, armor became so resilient that shields started becoming somewhat redundant, which in turn allowed knights and well-geared men-at-arms to abandon their shields in favour of using two-handed weapons which in turn became necessary to deal with heavily armored opponents. Gambesons on the other hand were more of an alternative to mail, for people who either favoured a lighter option or who couldn't afford mail.
Here from Cody's channel. Impressed! He made the indestructible chain mail, and you have the tests, and stunning slo-mo, to prove it. Don't be surprised to hear from Ukraine. If you don't, then expect to see "their" invention on the news. I'm sure they could find 101 uses for Cody's chainmail made from chains. 💜✊
Don't forget the chainmail would be worn over a gambeson, a quilted and padded jacket, that would provide more protection. A gambeson's multiple layers of quilted fabric provided a surprising level of protection.
I'd like to see how it would hold up to a rondel dagger which is designed to be thrust in between links and lever them apart. You can see a similar profile in sword tips as time went one and they went for being more optimized for cutting to more optimized for thrusting.
Splintering arrows were a real threat to people in armor in general, as even in full plate the shards would deflect into the neck and face through the gaps of the armor. It was such a problem that it influenced how armor was made afterwards. A collar was eventually added to catch anything deflecting upwards.
orders of magnitude more force.. but I suspect Kentucky Ballistics would be down for it. Remember he still has that harpoon gun. somebody slide into his DM's.
What did we learn: headless fiberglass arrows are preferable against human-targets; they spall open in a cone of shattering spokes, becoming dozens of fanning injurious-paths, shedding thousands of splinters in the wounds.
The fact that the blade of the arrowhead was able to cut into the chain link that easily tells me that the hardening isn't very significant, or at least very shallow.
The armor that got hit by the cannonball at 6:23 probably wasn't wearing chainmail underneath, but that's from a french cuirassier at the Battle of Waterloo (1815), and people had stopped wearing chainmail for hundreds of years by then. However, they would have had a particularly thick and tough cloth uniform underneath.
I bet investing into a protective shield for your super expensive new camera is cheaper than buying a new camera when a giant metal slug ricochets at it from a giant piece of armored jelly.
“You’d have a cracked rib at least” brother, your chest would have been caved in! Ain’t just a cracked rib 😂 I’d love to see the chainmail on a ballistic dummy labs torso to see what the damage to the organs would be
I just read about Cody's origin story why he started making YT videos, made me like him so much more. I've been a subscriber for years now, but never knew that about him.
Back in the middle ages they invented extremely strong crossbow weapons. They shoot heavy bolts with small diameter, which maybe could go through chainmail.
I cannot believe that you guys got your hands on not one, but two phantoms!!! Like actually how!!! This channel continues to suprise me by just how resilient it is. Not that I think it was ever really going to die, but every time it starts to show signs of pulling a Tom Stanton, it comes back with new life. Like your favorite pet zombie... that you love to abuse...
OMG!!! The Ballistics Gel being hit by the extra-large bullet looked JUST LIKE the Liquid Metal Terminator from T2: Judgement Day - BUT BETTER!!!! WOW!!!
Такая история с карбоновыми стрелами случается чаще чем вы думаете. Иногда, когда лучники тренируются, стрелы могут попадать в твердые предметы и немного повреждать карбоновое древко, незаметно для стрелка. Существует не маленькая вероятность что при следующем выстреле такой стрелой даже из маломощного лука, стрела начнет расщепляться во время выстрела, и обломки древка, разойдясь в виде цветочка, войдут в руку лучника. Это ужасная травма скорее всего приведет к ампутации.
The breastplate (cuirass) hit by the cannon ball was early 19th century (Napolionic French), it was more for show than actual armour, although it would give some defence against other cavalry armed with sabres. It was worn over a wool coat, not over chainmail (although yeah, the cannon ball would have destroyed medieval mail anyway)
your next challenge is to make the chain mail much denser so there are no holes, but keep as much of the flexibility as possible, if you can do that you may have legitimate body armor here.
I can't wait to see how Shadiversity would comment on the fact that you don't have any cloth under the chainmail. Because, if proper garments were there, the arrow fragments wouldn't make it through.
Cody think of it like a spring arrows LOSE energy when they they wiggle, but if there was no flex the arrow wouldnt take as much energy from the initial snap resulting in less velocity.
An armor made of that chainmail plus a layer of 3 inches of balistic gel would nullify most damage to the torso from impact or the chain wrapping into the skin. Would made a thick armor tho.
I visited an old nuclear powerplant once, and they had great pieces of chain mail hanging from the ceiling inside the reactor room. This was to prevent pieces of pipes and other equipment from flying around and cause further damage, in case of an explosion. It was a simple safety feature to guard against cascading failure events. Now, the question is, was this nuclear safety-grade chain mail stronger than yours? I don't know. It was made from stainless steel rings, and they were about three inches in diameter. So, by comparison it was a way looser mesh. I can't remember what gauge steel it was and the plant has been disassembled in the years since. Anyway, just thought I would share an example of real-world uses for chain mail, from the mid-20'th century.
Chainmaille made from chain links is pretty wild. I make chainmaille myself. I just go with riveted maille which is extremely time consuming or butted maille which is less time consuming but still time consuming. I could only imagine what that chain link chainmaille piece took to do. Those quarter inch thick links must have been a pain to bend and link.
You guys deserve all the financial support possible. Not one single ad and only one on Cody's video. Sorry, I can not contribute financially otherwise than clicks and views. Great video, and thanks for the entertainment!
Anyone else wincing every time that kid waved that Broadhead around? I mean yeah, lets lalk with my hands while holding a pointy object with three SHAVING SHARP razor blades on the end of it... Jaysus mary n' Joseph!
There has been some great tests done on Tods Workshop doing historic arrows vs armour, and arrows causing damage by splintering against armour is definatelyna thing (not quite like that, though!).
The funny thing is 69K FPS for a high-speed camera is relatively low these days. Slow Mo Guys can go into the millions of FPS but they do still cost as much as a house.
In fairness, Cody's chainmail is probably not practical to make a suit of armor out of, BUT - in specific (not man-portable) applications? There's a lot of potential there, if someone wants to take the time to make it.
I love Cody’s energy. So passionate about what he does. Like a little kid in a candy shop. And your attitude encourages it. This is all so wholesome. Edit: here from his channel, by the way! Subbing!
Totally mindblowing watching something like that slug roll off even at that velocity! ...but the shock waves though the body from a center line hit looks devastating for your organs. Forget having any ribs intact. That "rolling off" effect does look promising for making it by ok-ish from a glancing blow, that would otherwise rip your flesh deeply.
Silicone ball-molds gauged to resin-cast rounds for your air-cannon: & maybe build a vacuum-chamber-accelerator barrel-extension; it can only make rounds faster, vacuum-fired rounds are insane & almost break physics.
