I took Grey Knights to a 40K Tournament. It was a mistake.

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Grey Knights, Teleport Strike Force
CHARACTERS
Brotherhood Librarian (100 Points)
Grand Master (125 Points) • Warlord
• Enhancements: Sigil of Exigence
Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight (220 Points)
• 1x Heavy incinerator, 1x Heavy psycannon
1x Nemesis daemon greathammer • Enhancements: Domina Liber Daemonica
BATTLELINE
Brotherhood Terminator Squad (210 Points)• 1x Narthecium
Strike Squad (125 Points)
OTHER DATASHEETS
Interceptor Squad (135 Points)
Interceptor Squad (135 Points)
Interceptor Squad (135 Points)
Paladin Squad (450 Points)
• 1x Paragon • 8x Paladin 4x Psycannon
• 1x Paladin Ancient 1x Psycannon
Purgation Squad (135 Points) 4x Incinerator
Purgation Squad (135 Points) 4x Incinerator
ALLIED UNITS
Callidus Assassin (90 Points)
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@last2nkow 8 месяцев назад

You think GK games are slippery and tricksy now, wait until you play a mirror match GK vs GK. No one dies, everyone teleporting every turn, and suddenly the melee begins and the whole table is covered in the most brutal stories of brother fighting brother since horus was in his stompin' boots.

@Slaave 8 месяцев назад

“The only way i could save the game is Gotcha-Hammer….. so anyway I started blasting”

@J-Martijn 8 месяцев назад

"Sealclubbing on a midweek day goes wrong with a subtier army." Fixed the title for you

@HellstormWargaming 8 месяцев назад

Dont hate the club when youre just the seal ;)

@binnsi2251 8 месяцев назад

GK so broken we were a bottom 5 faction before last data/point slate. Doubt our points decrease will get us much higher.

@mellvins0059 8 месяцев назад

I mean art of war put them A tier on their tier list but go off

@binnsi2251 8 месяцев назад

@@mellvins0059 Iam sure some hyper competive players can Reach A tier with them, but most players will be C or low B tier I reckon. If our detachment gave us a damage boost of some sort, specially vs monsters or vehicles, then I could see high B or A tier. Which could mean S tier for hyper competive players.

@builder969channel6 8 месяцев назад

Do take into account that those are the competitive rankings, a setting where everyone is playing to win so their gonna take the best stuff they can whereas in casual settings they might perform better just depends on where your playing really

@mellvins0059 8 месяцев назад

@@builder969channel6 grey knights don’t have that many options. It’s other armies with huge amounts of data sheets that are more affected by more casual lists

@Leithener 2 месяца назад

@@binnsi2251 ye, it's more of a "easy to play, hard to master" army. If you know how to use them well, you will be a serious threat on a table, but before that you will be able to kill some, but most of the time you will just lose hard.

@kylewells6871 8 месяцев назад

The predators are there litterly for the lasconnons, entropy cannons are st10, so its nice to have the st12 ranged attacks, same with the brigands. Plus 10" move its very helpful for contagion range.

@ClumsyOrcStudios 8 месяцев назад

I'm glad you enjoyed it mate. 👍

@sliven21 8 месяцев назад

I bought the GK combat patrol a month ago (I just started WH and I thought the looked awesome) and it’s been sitting in the box while I’m trying to paint all these space marines I have lol

@SC1ENCEP1E 8 месяцев назад

Playing in a store league. Death Guard player was dead bottom pre slate, was a shame. I got them 1st game after the slate. Got absolutely pumped and death guard now in the final next week 😂

@dittmar104 8 месяцев назад

Grand father protects

@boomcat1337 8 месяцев назад

i just found this channel.. what fantastic channel.. never laughed so much hearing about a tournament !! sub

@HellstormWargaming 8 месяцев назад

Welcome! This was pretty tame compared to my normal antics 👀

@kylewells6871 8 месяцев назад

I see, so the only thing that affects the "saving throw" is benefit of cover essentially, so the ignore modifiers won't ignore cover but since dg degrades the save Characteristic you can ignore that, makes sense. Here's a question about typhus now, eater plague ignores lone op right? Because it's not a ranged attack, it's a psychic ability which is technically a psychic attack but I don't think it's categorized as a ranged attack. And when typhus makes melee attacks and kills anything non vehicle or monster does that res poxwalkers? I believe it does because it's worded when a model in this unit destroys an enemy model return a poxwalker back to the feild.

@UnexpectedInquisition 8 месяцев назад

Yea, GK is my main army and I keep saying this. We are really good vs certain armies and play secondaries well but there are certain enemy we simply cant deal with whatsoever, and one those sort of builds (lots of monsters or tanks) we simply get DPS-checked out of winning sometimes, especially if they can block us from objectives and prevent us playing secondaries. Mathmatically impossible for us to kill a tyrannofex in cover, for example. Bit nonsense. We needed +1 AP for psycannons at minimum to have a prayer at killing certain units with max attacks over 5 turns of a game.

@gloriadubois266 Месяц назад

You can use it to sticky objectives before your command phase starts if you don't put them into reserve

@67coda 8 месяцев назад

Hilarious video!

@orangeblack1285 8 месяцев назад

2:14 what are those brightly coloured rings on the base are for? Just unit differentiation? But if so, why not around every unit group?

@HellstormWargaming 8 месяцев назад

They’re squad markers, available at HellstormWargaming.Co.Uk/shop

@UnNamedPotato 8 месяцев назад

The little clips on the bottom of the minis around the 2:20 mark, I assume those are to mark enhancement? Where can I find them?

@HellstormWargaming 8 месяцев назад

Hellstormwargaming.Co.Uk/shop

@tk2166 8 месяцев назад

And that’s why I love playing GK! Shinanigans!

@theodorheidhues2566 5 месяцев назад

I had a similar experience with my grey Knights me, I have been playing my friends and still have yet to lose with them 7 : 0

@S.A.S.H. 8 месяцев назад

What are those coloured base additions on your Grey Knights? Are STLs available?

@HellstormWargaming 8 месяцев назад

Squad markers, available at HellstormWargaming.Co.Uk/shop

@S.A.S.H. 8 месяцев назад

@@HellstormWargaming thanks!

@sebastianmenconi6853 8 месяцев назад

It doesn't matter if you ignore modifiers to the save characteristic. When you throw the dice you get the -1 anyway because it specifically applies to saving throws and Valoris does not deny that

@HellstormWargaming 8 месяцев назад

I would still be -1 to dice if there was AP, but the Death Guard Save Characteristic modifier is ignored :)

@sebastianmenconi6853 8 месяцев назад

@@HellstormWargaming scratch me, I checked and you are correct. My friend played It as -1 saving throw, Imma beat his ass now

@HellstormWargaming 8 месяцев назад

Go get him tiger ;)

@kylewells6871 8 месяцев назад

Yeah this made me think about that one too, I thought it was -1 to saving throws but since it's a characteristic it can be ignored, cheeky wording by GW. Makes sense tho to be fair. Gotta pay extra close attention to every word

@jean-philippecarrier2216 8 месяцев назад

GK are really really fun to play indeed! but as you said, it's really difficult to kill big monster or vehicles... However Kaldor Draigo is a beast in a paladin squad ! you should try it (you would have one shot Moration with his 2+ anti demon with the radiant strike stratagem, giving you mortal wounds on a 2+ hahahaha :) 100% agree on the Grand master in nemesis dread, he sould hit on a 2+. He is the only boss/captain/commander in all warhammer 40k hitting on a 3+... It's really BS... Give me a GMNDK with a 2+ to hit, and give the army a little more lethality agaisnt vehicles, and GK are in top tier

@TheYendukua 8 месяцев назад

You’d still need 6s to get devastating wounds off on morty

@BIFInvaider 8 месяцев назад

Anti-keyword makes your rolls on that specified number a critical wound. Which translate to devastating wounds when you get that keyword

@jean-philippecarrier2216 8 месяцев назад

@@TheYendukua as bifinvaider said, x+ anti something keywords mean you get a critical wounds on this number, meaning that if you get devastating wound on top of that, you combo this and get your devastating wound!

@TheYendukua 8 месяцев назад

@@BIFInvaider 😱

@humansRpepul2 7 месяцев назад

10 terminators with a chaplain can also goon a vehicle. We also have great OC.

@Soundslikeauproblem 8 месяцев назад

Once people learn how to deal with GK Itheir win rate drops away pretty quickly.. Eg. If the second game dude have parked all his vehicles in the middle. Still fun to play and can score secondaries but def an army that people can “figure out”

@orangeblack1285 8 месяцев назад

Yea, the teleport stuff might be powerful, but its the only tool we really have.

@novice7T7 8 месяцев назад

Bro will procreate dreams be able to animate a play fight based on your personal minis on a real match 😅

@DeathsOrigin 8 месяцев назад

I pulled a Mists of Deimos earlier today about peed myself laughing. My opponent was floored. It put him real out of position

@IamtheWV17 8 месяцев назад

Playing my first game of 10th over 1k tonight..... against GK... I'm playing ynnari.... I'm expecting shenanigans beyond imagination

@dominikscheller2269 8 месяцев назад

Nice report of your tournament. Is it possible to see your list?

@HellstormWargaming 8 месяцев назад

It’s in the description :)

@Oldaccount57548 8 месяцев назад

Next tournament take a thematic blood raven army and play like it’s DoW lol

@joshuasebo5712 8 месяцев назад

Sigil of Exigence isn't a issue to a shooting army.

@sirken2 6 месяцев назад

isnt an easy way to stop this from happening is making your Strat cost more with confusion from a callidus?

@sliven21 8 месяцев назад

You get these people in every game. Always chasing the Meta. And some lucky people have enough money to do this with every change.

@HellstormWargaming 8 месяцев назад

Who is meta chasing sorry?

@sliven21 8 месяцев назад

@@HellstormWargaming I wasn’t implying you or grey knights :) my bad. Just in general when you see a lot of the same armies.

@gawkthimm6030 8 месяцев назад

@HellstormWargaming What I would very much want to know is; when do people begin selling 3D printed copies of official GW models online for cheap because they has been serial printing them for re-sale, I mean if you can buy counterfeit watches, clothes and cars from China why not GW warhammer miniatures?... I'm one of those people who cant feel any sympathy for giant corporations loosing a bit of profit. Especially one with as bad of a customer friendly reputation as GW has. Also our Intelectual Property laws are archaic and not consumer friendly, so I dont respect them.

@dittmar104 8 месяцев назад

Predators are super cheap and were only being slept on all across chaos and imperium due to the forge fiend and lancer. Death Guard struggle with speed lascannons help that due to their immense range. Predators are also one of the only options in the army for strength 11+ weapons, others being hellbrutes twin las cannon for 140 and a land raider 2 twin soul shatter cannons for 240, or a defiler. Predators get a much higher volume of shots and movements over a hellbrute and have a smaller silhouette than a land raider or defiler. They’re also great into brigands which half of chaos allies in.

@supremeovernerd 8 месяцев назад

was it 10th edition?

@supremeovernerd 8 месяцев назад

in my limited experience, GK suffer worst against heavy armour, their melee and psyker phase can be strong

@supremeovernerd 8 месяцев назад

getting a land raider for my GK next tbh for this reason

@HellstormWargaming 8 месяцев назад

Definitely 10th edition :)

@jonathanko5471 8 месяцев назад

Mis-ruled Truesilver Armor, Morty doesn't protect characteristics of the attacks being made by models, just the model's characteristics themselves. Maybe your TO ruled it the other (wrong imo) way, im not sure.

@KevenRand 8 месяцев назад

actually it does at the he protects all his characteristics including the characteristics of the attacks as they are still the models

@jonathanko5471 8 месяцев назад

@@KevenRand that's not how GW rules it, from experience at NOVA

@jonathanko5471 8 месяцев назад

@@KevenRand I believe by how GW rules it, DG could also degrade the grandmaster unit's bs and ws, since those are weapon attributes and not model attributes (if DG chose that plague)

@HellstormWargaming 8 месяцев назад

We played it as ignore modifiers and it sounded like an AP modifier at the time. Something to think about :)

@kylewells6871 8 месяцев назад

Number of attacks, weapon strength, ap, and damage are all characteristics on the datasheet right? Therefore they are characteristics of that model thus you can ignore the modifiers to them.

@michaelhband 3 дня назад

👍👍👍❤❤❤

@alexrowson-brown6568 8 месяцев назад

You took GK and came third how the fuck is that a mistake?

@byrongotcha 8 месяцев назад

Just heard Aiden talk about the tournament. He said that final game he was missing 4 of his secondary cards that accidently got left at the previous table. They all had very scorable secondaries in it. Consider your self lucky you loyalist puppet, Papa Nurgle was preoccupied with something else obviously