jdk I thing that on top vs hp stackers its better to rush bork and then into clever. its easier to bully them then with trade pattern w1 q auto e cuz u proc botrk passive and knock him back that way it wont be possible for him to trade back at all. and the most fun part is that this combo can be done in like 1s so there is no time for them to react
I've been doing botrk and cleaver rush in my jungle games and my win rate went up I feel a little squisher but as long as I use E and dr the cc and ensuring burst you end up going a decent amount of dmg and self healing