I tried this massive 3d printer so you don't have to 

Make large molds and cast concrete furnitures!

Bless you. I was a wood furniture designer/builder for 45 years. After being forced into early retirement I decided to try tackling printed furniture. There is about as much to learn about printing as there is to learn about wood furniture building, and not much crossover between the two. The first thing you must do is 'think out of the box' when it comes to designs, avoiding overhangs/ supports, 'joinery', and try to come up with one-piece solutions to furniture applications. It's not easy to switch over from woodwork thinking but you'll get the hang of it. I realized early on that I couldn't really make anything from gluing together parts, so I purchased a Modix big60 for about what you paid for the elegoo. It's been a very reliable and flexible machine. I print mostly with a 1.0mm nozzle, sometimes a 1.5mm and sometimes a .8mm. I avoid infill when I can and rely instead on hollow parts with multiple perimeters and internal bracing/webs, it saves time and money and is pretty strong. I only use PLA for prototyping ideas and PETG when it's time to get serious. (The thing about PLA is that it sags and weakens over time, some of the large prints I did 5 years ago are starting to fall apart.) PETG is a little too flexible sometimes though. I've experimented with CF/Nylon, ABS, PC, etc., and they are not cost-effective, plus they all require heated enclosures. Drying your filament is essential, always take your spools down to 12-15% before you use them, and keep them in the dryrs when printing. I have several of the sunlu dryers, they work pretty well. Calibration is crucial. Whatever printer you're using, flow rate, e-steps, clearances, temperature towers, experimenting with nozzles, temps and speeds is essential before you can get consistent results, and on a big machine, these factors are even more important to get properly sorted. I abhor postwork. After 4 decades of woodworking I don't ever want to see another piece of sandpaper or finishing product. And this is one place where printing can be a boon, a properly designed project can come off the bed ready for use, which is just the way I like it. The time factor is a drag, yes, but I just turned out a pair of very nice loudspeaker enclosures with double walls that I filled with fine sand, and not only are they stylish but the sound in amazing, and REW software measurements show that they are as accurate as any production examples under $6000 a pair. Yes, They took 400 hours to print, but a pair in plywood or MDF made to the same standard of function would take a comparable amount of days because I can print 24/7 but only work 12/7. I prefer matte filaments to gloss, they hide the layer lines/imperfections better. And even though printers x, y or z can supposedly print at 300mm/second, the basic rule remains, slower means better quality. As other posters here have commented, making casting molds is another excellent technique and has the advantage of multiple copies being produced from a single print run ( sometimes! ) I considered casting my speaker enclosures from hydrostone, but in the end I just printed them because it was faster. ( I am not always a very patient man ) I also weigh in at 300 pounds, so designs that will keep my butt off the floor will pretty much work for anyone. So keep working on it, if you want to discuss anything just contact me through my channel.

Actually, increasing number of walls might help more than addng the infill :)

2:55 pro tip, you can unpack the box and carry the pieces in one or a few at a time, you don't have to keep it in the box.

As someone who has a company for 3D printing, we actually are planning to get a large-size printer but the main use of such machines is not making or competing with regular furniture. We make custom-made products for our clients and when we make a design, it is unique and personal for a specific customer which makes it worth much more than a regular product that can be found on the shelf. And, using wood filament to make an actual chair is not ideal since most additives to filament will weaken it. A common good material for these applications is ABS-GF or PP-GF. These materials are fantastic, strong and rigid and will be suitable for furniture making. We have our eyes on Mingda industrial printers (the 1m ones) which are enclosed and are suitable for engineering materials. The Elegoo orange is fine for basic materials it seems but lacks the potential for better materials ESPECIALLY at this scale things go wrong quickly and you need a stable environment to print your parts in. The Elegoo orange is waaaaaay cheaper though :) Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

Part of the benefits here would be printing geometry that would otherwise be too complex or time consuming to create in any other way. For example rather than using to print a chair that could be created using wood and "traditional" joinery, creating a chair that is designed from the ground up to get the full benefit from 3d printing - the design of the chair could be truly unexpected and interesting as it's not informed by tradition or the limitations of traditional woodworking. Great video 😊

Love your humor, especially the look of true anguish as you sat on the chair for the first time. And how you did the wrap up of a video on 3D printing stools and chairs by sitting on the floor. And yeah - I am also glad to see that woodworkers still have a place in the world. :-)

Seeing the model of that chair rail in the slicer on the Elegoo bed and then the Bamboo bed was amazing! That Elegoo is MASSIVE!

INLAYS IN CABINETS/DRAWERS WOUD BE SICK like 80x60cm drawer inserts in one piece would be so clean

Actually, PLA is one of the “strongest” materials you can print, for holding/crushing, and layer adhesion. Petg, and Abs are better “impact resistant”.

Sitting down on something printed that hollow is pretty brave I have to say. Those pieces needed twice as much material at the very least. Wood PLA is just about the weakest filaments you can find (much weaker than normal PLA). Holding on to something when you test with body weight would be a good idea too.

Was a fun inspiring video no matter what the result was. Tack. :)

What I would print with something that big, Custom car parts, Speaker boxes. Guitar pieces (Neck and Body), Custom bicycle rims, Tabletop arcade cabinet, Giant bender the robot, and giant human skull. Just a few ideas off the top of my head.

Id use that to print all my woodworking templates

Id be interested in printing the stool hollow then filling it with something. Resin or even a thin concrete might be interesting. I realise it would require design of the internal structure but would be a very interesting build method. Also in only creating an outside layer it should use less pla.

hollow legs for threaded rod. a cushion on top and rubber feet. perfection and durability

Creative video, thank you :)

I was going to buy this printer but the wait time is what got me. I have a few ideas to improve it using some designs and upgrades ive done with other printers.

Exactly what I need for my Twizy F1-project, it would be perfect to print the nose cone/frontspoiler and the diffusor in the back! 😅😃

Use orcaslicer and do all of the calibrations to fix the under extrusion. If your volumetric flow speeds too high for that filament, it will cause this. Also, wood filaments are hard to print with great results in general and I don't think they are as durable.

You could print jigs and templates to use with your router for wood projects.

After your review sounds with current tech on market. This can be great for prototyping and mold making

car parts, molds, drawer inserts, trim pieces, jigs, cases, mousepads, desktops, PC cases I could think of loads of things to use it for.

You can print a crazy jig, full size and ready to use, for making an elaborate wood joint.

after watching more, i can say this would be good for those life size models for events or conventions

One space tip, open the box outside, and carry the pieces in? Then you only need the assembly space inside. You know, when it's NOT snowing. // The value add is when the price point is high, not low. Say, 3d printing yourself a coffin. Those things are stupid expensive. Or, body kits for cars, where customization is worth the money, and they are essentially non-structural. Great video!

I'm super excited to get mine in June. I've got a Mosquito Prime hit end with a 2.4mm nozzle waiting. Big thick layers is where it's at.

You could pause prints and add other materials inside the print if you model the pieces with this in mind. I obviously never print this big, but I like to add weights etc in my prints and do that through pause commands to make them fully encased in the print

Awesome video with a sensible conclusion :)

Great video Pierre, I was very skeptical about 3d printed furniture. now I'm even more skeptical LOL

Great demo! I don't think you have to worry about losing your job! Very few people would want to print their own furniture while the majority of people prefer furniture made of traditional materials like wood ( as long as there is a will to plant more trees, and recycle as much wood as possible). I also hope to see better designed and affordable filament recycling products in the future. Your chair looks good, and as you said it could have used a better framing configuration. Finally, what slicer did you use? Did Elegoo include the profile for the Giga in their slicer? I would be curious to test some parts, and see what kind of printing time I would be expecting for one of my future projects.

Good thing about any problems with printing is, that enough time perfecting it will pretty much resolve it. Once you are able to overcome these issues and setup ideal printing technique, level out the bed correctly and know how to re-level it and maintain it, then it would take little time. The finish of any product can be improved by fuzzy perimeters or by sanding and paint job, finding right filament can greatly improve the outcome as well, so overall I think it is achievable with enough time around tinkering the process as with anything.

Let us know when the stool breaks. I would try printing it in parts. The chair seat plate as one print with hexagonal leg slots. Legs separate with hexagonal shape, printed flat on the bed so the layers are vertical, rather than horizontal. Possibly even each leg in two pieces that hexagonally plug in together. Also it means a lower risk of print failure destroying the entire print. You could then glue the legs or just make them them a snug connector fit. Use arch construction for a full back rest chair. With 3D printing you need to change the design to match the material capabilities.

I should get back to working on my large format printer, print volume is 600x1000x600 but almost ¼ of the size of that one, my main design goal was that it would fit through a doorway without taking it apart.

I think this would make a lot of sense if you had a pellet extruder. Since you need compound filaments for best prints - get a proper filament making extruder set up in the same room, and use a filament width sensor to compensate for variable width from your in-house penny filament.

As a Doctor Who fan, I would use this to print a full sized Dalek. Even at the size of the printer, the Dalek would have to be broken down into sections to be assembled after the print is finished.

The novelty of the size is undeniable, but as you say the price of filament easily adds up for bigger projects.

Wow the amount of issues straight out of the box.. thats wild. Lmao they even clogged the nozzle for you before shipping, how nice of them!

Holy shit, this thing is GIGANTIC!

3D print museum artifacts for hands on education. Recreate a complete vintage locomotive style tv or rare radios for display or theatre props. So many cool stuff to create, if I could I would test this out and probably make stuff all day long.

so would it be worth building an enclosure for this for heat regulation through entiere print. or at that point just crank the heat in the room to 90+ deg?

With this size, you can print pretty good speaker enclosures that are worth more than 3d printer itself. You can also print whole rc plane parts and much more.

I like your video, thanks for doing this. You could use the print parameters used by VORON for your designs. Those are really stiff and it should be the right amount of walls, infill etc.

You can carbpn fibre wrap prints for strength and looks.

large machines like this are good for cosplay-type projects. if you want a helmet or something larger like that in one print instead of many little prints and gluing them together. maybe even the hobby airplane community might find a use for it.

I'm printing a enclosure for my printer, tons of pieces that bolt together. With this i could print it all at once

Wonder if you could do a print in place bedside table witha draw

printer of that size I would be making jigs, forms and and such. nice printer!

I think it is perfect for printing large picture frames.

I'm pretty sure your "mountain" of Festool boxes is growing...... ;) Awesome review of this printer. I've watched a few reviews of this printer but none until now actually made me think about what a printer of this size actually means. Thanks.

Fantastic video and 100% agree there are a good number of issues Elegoo needs to sort out

With the design on the stool and other large objects there are some options. You could add cross bracing between the legs quite easily as long as it's not angled past a certain amount, like 45 degrees ideally. Anything you print upright you can always chamfer more gradually into the large surface as well so support aren't necessary. For getting a wood pattern too, you can actually generate a wood grain effect and add it while modeling. In general, adding more walls will make the prints much stronger, especially in thin areas. Just some thoughts for you and anyone reading. Very cool!

I don’t have room for such a big printer but nice to see that such a device is now affordable and available. For stronger parts use more walls not infill. Instead of useing more infill you can make tiny (0.1mm) cutouts inside the model. This way the slicer is forced to add walls there. Interesting what’s possible to print with such a big printer.

Would love to see you make a few fun garden items like statues and bird baths. Possibly even a post box or sundial

For added strength you might want to look at more perimeters instead of more infilll.

Sounds like you had the exact same issue that the 3DPrintingNerd had with the hotend crashing right into the bed. I think with the size it will be better suited for creating larger models and possibly molds to do resin or silicone in.

Its worth spending the filament just making cool projects to show the world honestly. You could end up making cool puzzle pieces for artwork then showing a fully crafted item- like aircraft, ships, tanks, 3d printed tree or flowers within a pot. Literally anything man! If I had the ability to do this stuff, I'd make anything anyone asked for in the comments because its something new to try. Even if it ends up not going well, its still content to show us the limits and capabilities of the machine!

first things that come to mind: cosplay and prop making for small theatres and such :)

I didn't expect him to say the S word at the end, the beginning was totally PG 💀

Try printing a chair upside down in vase mode (square seat that transitions into circle base) then attach a back rest

That same break happened to 3d Nerd. 1 extruder and 2 plates later and code update he started printing!

Here's an idea which I hesitate to say instead of doing myself! Try creating a sort of shell print of a chair, and then fill it with resin

Not sure if the bed would get hot enough but you could try PCTG for stronger parts

If you could use a very low infill that had gaps creating channels that something like resin could be poured into that could be interesting. Obviously resin an PLA don't mix well, but the idea is what matters. Using a 3d print to act as an exoskeleton/mold could be pretty cool.

What is the black filament used for the stool ? It look nice !

Every time I see a new video about it, I get nervous about my Kickstarter unit

It looks like the 4 sections of bed are just Neptune 4 max beds stuck together. I have one and while it can totally print very great big prints it is very finicky. For example, the bed needs an extra 20 minutes to heat up every time in order for it to be the same temp all around.

Hi, great channel. You can use cling film wrapped around the frame to enclose the print for other filaments.

My first thought was Castle Grey Skull. Like kids toy play sets or displays for collectors.

For making furniture a laser cutter or large CNC machine makes a lot more sense. Maybe if you could 3D print on a steel frame ... or insert the steel frame into the print afterwards...

I have absolutely ZERO room in this house, I practically have to scootch in sideweays as it is, but I SO want to order one... Imagine being able to print life size statues of my nephews and nieces...

Loved the video! I wonder if you could use a large format printer like this to design and build large router templates, say for guitar bodies. Shows that wood working and 3D printing could have a place along side each other in the future.

You don’t need a different type of Mayer to make it stronger, you need different designs. In 3d printing you have a lot of strength inside the layers and very little between the layers. That stool will snap very easily!!

Greenboy3D a new RU-vid channel is developing a pellet extruder that I think will be available soon. It is swap able onto most printers. Bulk buying raw plastic pellets is extremely cheap compared to filament. It’s worth looking into. Everything I know about pellet extruders comes from his videos, and I hope it lives up to the promise.

Don't worry Pierre, if you ever need help moving a giant 3d printer, just give me a call! Seriously jealous. This thing looks very cool. I could see some fun use cases for this and woodworking. You could make giant router templates very easily. Or large-scale jigs. Etc.

Amazing and scary at the same time. Good to know it's not going to compete with wood due to price right now.

I've had this ideal of a similar machine but instead of printing things into reality, print them into a model format file. That way you can 3d print existing objects into a "computer", and sell them as packs on "asset marketplaces". My dream was to be able to dangle a ball in the center of a room, and scan the entire room into a 3d Model, that would save time for those who are not skilled in using 3d modeling software.

This printer would be great for printing Mock-ups, as they are not intended for real use anyway - if you just want to get the feeling of how it looks in full size or scaled down depending on what you are making an Mock-up from this printer would be great, also I am sure it's good for things that shouldn't be sat on or have that kind of weight on it.

Is it possible you could link that stool? I would love to print it!

i mean to me who makes car interior work this would be a game chancer because some parts cost lot of money and are discontinued

This printer is best for bigger Cosplay items! :o

I think one reason for both the stool's success and the chair's failure is fillets on stress risers. If you round off those inside corners, the chair will be able to take a lot more weight. It does make it look a LOT more 3D printed or machined and a lot less woodworked, though!

Finally, I can 3d-print a 3d printer.

Giant router templates!

Funne about the sizes it can make. I would make more rc bodies, designing parts for them for my channel, both here on youtube, instagram and tiktok. But not as big as your channel (yeat) ;-) Thanks for showing the new Elegoo. Best from Mickey, Denmark

Why do you say you would need an enclosure for printing PETG on this machine?

Great review, filament is expensive, at this price point you can get 2 good, eco friendly, wooden chairs. I own a Bambu x1 carbon, great printer, not much to do before printing my 3D designed parts.

print a full scalr R2D2 thats a good start

Increase # of walls for sturdiness. Infill might help, but not as much, and will cost a lot more filament.

This would make printing cosplays much easier

Could be wrong but are you missing the Bowden Tube for the filament looks like there a tug on the filament as its moving as its not in a tube this would cause the issues your seeing here, under excursion and making contact with model due to pulling on the filament

you printing with .4mm nozzel? :)

you should really get a 1 mm nozzle. while printing 20cm things the wider nozzle and increased wall count (instead of higher infill ) makes the print stronger.

This would probably work great for a piano bench

I've been fiddling with this concept for a while, I truly believe it will become an industry at some point, there's a lot of logistic benefits, but I don't think it can ever outcompete the classic woodworking. Its too versatile and cost efficient. The models look neat off the print already! To tackle the integrity of the print, try reinforce the design by integrating wood in the structural elements; by modeling hollowed out sections of the 3d prints and inserting beams or rods of wood with a friction fit + add epoxy if you're not planning on reusing the 3d printed parts, most of the wood can be repurposed with a bit of sanding. Tip: You greatly reduce the requirement of woodworking if you buy off-the shelf beams/rods and further model the furniture around them.

I get the feeling the seams where the magnetic plates join had something to do with the print failing.

My first thought was custom pieces for cars. Using better materials though. Those things are usually already expensive, so custom made would probably be 1:10 versus price for material.

stuck spool air printing is my guess for Stool 1. its the number one problem the bambu ams solves

I can easily see this machine being used to prototype costumes or set-pieces for movies and the likes. Cosplayers might also want to get their hands on something like this, at least the one doing it as their profession. I can also see this being used to decorate showcase rooms or stagefloors. There are A LOT of possibilites with a large printer for commercial use.

I think the whole 3D printing future is wonderful and will be very useful for many reasons BUT I very much doubt it with replace a good woodworker.