More n more Race cars are in the 4 cylinder bracket! Chevrolet done their homework before building this powerhouse! You may not like the sound, but it can withstand a lot of power running through it and last! The V8's are far too heavy, cost way too much for insurance, and cost a lot in fuel mileage. Not to mention the initial investment.
D Gibson yep I'm definitely a fan of the setup, people think that this is the crappy version of the Camaro and that is so not the case at all. It is for people who love hot hatches but want rear wheel drive and don't want torque steer
Not sure why there are so many 4cyl haters. 300+ hp from a 4cyl is more hp than most people need. Admittedly its odd in a Camaro but thats still more HP than the majority of Camaros from the 60s and 70s
i have a 2017 4 Cylinder Turbo Camaro RS in hyper blue metallic and just wondering if I get it tuned if it void warranty? you should also make a video on how you did your muffler delete and everything you did to make it sound better!!
Very cool Jimmy. I live in FL and I ordered RPM's Stage 2 parts for my 2016 2.0 yesterday, their downpipe and charging pipe, and I ordered Injen's cold air intake. I have a local tuner, Redline Motorsports, doing the install and tune. Will be interesting to see what results I get. It's already a pretty snappy car, was a little concerned about mileage, but now you have me convinced. The ECU tune clearly does a lot, the Stage 2 parts have taken a while to come out and there isn't as much as a choice of bolt-on stuff as there is for the v6 and v8. There is also the turbo upgrade from RPM and Vermont Tuning, which looks exciting, but not sure I want to do something that radical to the car. I don't think the 4-cyl sounds bad, it just sounds different, more like a cranked out VW or a audi/BMW 3-series. It's a euro sound and also, doesnt attract a lot of attention while cruising. My car is charcoal, with black wheels, black interior, convertible with black leather. Half the time I creep up to people with other muscle cars and they don't even know I'm there :)
Very impressive! I think the next best mod to do would be to install a 'real' turbo and retune it with that. I have the same engine in my 2015 Buick Regal and the stock turbo is a joke. It still moves pretty quick, but the stock setup seems to fall on its face as the rpm's climb.
i just did my exhaust on mine, did a 3 inch borla with 4 inch tips and sound awesome, goes great with the injen cold air intake that i have on the car.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you are making 360/378 with just a tune and no other mods that engine is not going to last long. With just a tune you can get an impressive increase in power but I would say a more reasonable guess would be around 330HP/370TQ at the crank. I love the Boosted Ecotec motors, they are strong and very tune-able. For someone who doesn't want to void the warranty the V6 is the way to go but if you are choosing between the V6 and the turbo I4, and you are wanting to mod, the I4 is a better choice. With some mods and a good tune the I4 will be much faster than the V6 any day.
Does the Tune by itself make that much HP? i believe you mentioned you had other Mods? So i'm wondering if your other Mods contributed to this 360 HP>.....Please advise..
ok thanks for responding..i'm thinking of gettn a 2017 2.0 camaro...i also wanna do a tune..is it really a night a day difference than stock? is it worth it?
rhampton1914 just speaking from my experience with this car. if you can find a crazy deal on the 2.0 Turbo then it starts to become worth it. but if you can I would totally save up and go for the ss 1le. it's such a beast of a car. and yes the tune is a night and day difference it takes the cars power from being not exciting to decently quick
Sorry to be the one to tell you this but there is way you are close to 360 HP (at the flywheel) that would calculate to about a 0 to 60 time of 4.4 to 4.7 seconds for 3340lb. car and at 275 HP (at the flywheel) it would be 5.4 to 5.8 seconds that is dead on with what GM has for there time.
crazyflyboy30 yeah that sounds about right. I bet if you found someone who has experience drag racing manual transmissions they could definitely pull at least a 4.8 second 0 to 60 with my car. I have driven both a Focus RS and an M2 and I can definitely say my car has just a tad bit more torque shove than those after the tune. also keep in mind I have removed half of my backseat and that big ass stupid Muffler. so I'm under 3,300 pounds
I believe you as far as the 378 ft of torque, but how about the HP? Is there some formula you are using? And once again, thanks for your videos on the tuned turbo 4 Camaro. Lots of us watching, whether we are owners or fussing with the decision to buy one or not.
no the only reference I have Is another one of their cars with the same tune dynoing 310 at the wheels. And I appreciate the support. Im coming back to the channel again with some higher quality content very soon!
use the performance timer in your car and make a 0 to 60 and 0 to 100 video . i did it with no mods (only intake evo7300) with both traction system off. i managed 5.4 0to60 and 13.8 0to100. on my first try.
Reginald Rigaud that's a really good idea I'll probably do that. and that's really good if you got those times first try I remember when I first got this car it took me multiple tries to even break 6 seconds 0 to 60 in stock form.
Spiderman Camaro 6 well.... technically i did not.... i did a couple tries of 0-60 when i originally bought the car and i could not get under 6.4sec so i gave up... but i had at least one of the traction feature still on at the time as i didnt know any better... but the good run was at my first try like 6months later which was a couple weeks ago by the way. may be the car needed a breaking period time to adjust. 0 to 100 @13.8 was first try ever couple weeks ago
No I don't, and I heard it's not working well for the new owner either. This car would be cool owning it under warranty stock but that's it. I don't trust this motor.
fleiva30 I wouls try to find a used SS around 30k, they are incredible. The 2.0 is really fun as well when modified but it takes some special care and maintenance
@@mitchio83 Not even close for me. The human ear likes certain tones and dislikes certain tones. That's why they spend so much R&D money on NVH. Turbo sounds may be "cool" to some, but they aren't "music to the ears" like the screaming V6. It's one of the best sounding V6 engines ever made.
If you want easy power just put a big open exhaust on it....3" downpipe to a 3" exhaust and you get an easy 20-30hp.....A simple exhaust upgrade on anything with a turbo has dramatic increases you won't see on a none turbo
Quick question, will the dealership be able to detect the mod? i have a 17 camaro 2.0 and want to get this but have warranty and don't want to fuck that up. any way to have that avoided?
Absolutely not, I had misfires at 60 thousand miles and ended up needing an engine rebuild which made me car poor for the rest of the ownership of this car. Is Camaros are best owned under warranty. The SS with the optional exhaust being the best option
earlier in the pedal yes but the same in your rpm range. basically if you have it on a medium setting, the reaction you would get from half throttle, you now get from 1/4 throttle
12grabberblue yeah you're right I do need to dyno it. that is the only way to make sure. I said 360 based on RPM Motorsports Dyno results for most of their clients which is always between 305 and 315 to the wheels which if you plug in 310 to the wheels is over 360 horsepower
Spiderman Camaro 6 How difficult is it to go back to stock in the event you have to take it to the dealership? Based on your video it sounds like I will be contacting RPM. Thanks for the video!
Eric N I'm not sure how you would go about putting it back to stock. I would ask rpm about that. the best option is if you know a technician at Chevrolet that will just look past it lol
Just fyi the dealerships now can see the car was tuned even if you put it back. The new cars now have what you could consider similar to a black box. Tune voids warranty
I'm sure the tune improved your hp and torque and probably close to the claim by the tuner company. Chevrolet's numbers are off the crank. On a chassis dyno those numbers will be 10% or more lower. The only real way to measure the difference is to baseline on a chassis dyno and follow up with another pull after the tune. I don't know how you got to 360 and 378 with out testing and converting from chassis dyno numbers to crank numbers. It is very unrealistic that you are making 378 lb ft of torque.
Pretty much.. don't want to bust his bubble but you can't go off a tuner laptop to see what numbers your making lol! ONLY real way is a baseline dyno and another dyno that shows the gains.
Haha that's one way to put it, yeah eventually I'll find a way to make it sound better most likely with a big turbo swap to where all you can hear is whooshing air and turbo noise
above 40mph its faster than a v6. with the tune it murders the v6, and since 5th gear allows more boost, if you race an SS from 80 mph this car with the tune will pull on it I'm not even joking.
kevin Hernandez not exactly, a performance chip is just a preset tune that is the same for every car, this was a remote custom tune where we adjusted it several times in order to see how much we could turn the boost up with no issues
Like it or not this is the directions Car manufactures are heading. With the new mid Engine Corvette soon to hit the market, more & more cars are being made with smaller displacement motors with large horse numbers and dropping the weight other vehicles. One such vehicle on the Chevy lineup is the Malibu premier at 3280 pounds with a four-cylinder turbo charge 2.0 the car can hit 0 to 60 in 5.7 seconds in the quarter mile 14.3 at almost 100 mph with a top speed Drag limited of 156 mph.
I have a 2017..4-Cyl Camaro, what after market parts could I get to increase the horse power before tunning the car?? I thought a Air Intake and a Intercooler. That's about it. I don't have a lot of knowledge when it comes to the aftermarket aspect of cars. NEED TIPS
The best advice I can give you is sell the car, in 5 years from now the 2.0T Camaro will go down as one of Chevrolet's most unreliable vehicles, only to be beaten by the cruise maybe. Old Miatas and Hondas are more fun in this car, have more parts available, are 1/10 the price to fix and 1/20 the cost. As for your question you can do a full exhaust, catless downpipe and a muffler delete.
Go ask a former owner of a Cobalt 2.0 SS why they don't have the car anymore. If they did any tuning at all such as boost increase boost tuning fuel mapping. Yes they increase their power but it shorten the life expectancy of both the turbo and the car itself. Do some research on the General Motors turbo powered cars and supercharged powered four cylinders. You'll find a very short lifespan when modifications take.
I have heard that as well, if I could go back I would have chosen something more reliable. But I'm now at 82,000 miles, have tried many different tunes, turbo is doing fine, planning on gong bigger anyway, and we put forged JE rods and pistons in the motor to help things out. hopefully everything will hold up.
john endsley honestly tho you see a lot of high mileage cobalts I’m at 158k 2009 cobalt ss tc and it’s been tuned for a while @25 psi and runs like a dream.
So I'm curious, do you have any present mods on your car that help the car to handle the extra 85+ hp. Or can the car the way it is handle the extra boost in hp? Please get back to me and can you list the mods needed for a v4 to handle this extra hp if it's needed. I'd appreciate it.
That car can't handle any more power than stock. It needed a motor rebuild at 60,000 miles because of the tune. It was very expensive and made me car poor for the rest of the ownership. I don't own sports cars anymore I ride motorcycles and dirt bikes instead. Check out my new videos.
ROMEO My money is on Spiderman's turbo. I spent 3 days and 300 miles in a 2017 V6 RS and had committed to buying it until I decided to drive a Turbo. Any advantage the 6 has on paper can easily be erased by a better driver in a Turbo in real world driving and after a tune and a mild diet in this case, the 6 doesn't stand a chance.
I know its true, but it is whats cheap and fast right now. but I will spread the word of powerful v8s because my goal is to be the first owner on youtube of the 6th gen z28 when it comes out.
Works4Erub LOL well you actually proved what I was trying to say...They did not in fact START out with 4 bangers. Either way, imho 4 cyl Camaros are a sin lol
You realize your talking about a 17 year old chassis right? also tires matter, and Naturally aspirated vs Turbo is the biggest factor. Turbo cars typically have a smooth power delivery even when you floor it. But yeah if you didn't know, chassis rigidity does make a difference
Yep. Wasn't reliable though. Sold it. Financially the best move is to have something like a 2004 Camry for a daily and then like a weekend Miata or small Honda. Or if you want affordable speed like I did more people should consider getting into bikes. I got my license a few months ago and haven't looked back since. Beginner-ish bikes do 0 to 60 in under 4 seconds
"4cyl are taking over" "people are just stuck in the past" "theyre just scared of change" "im not, i love my 4cyl camaro!" "i want a V12" lol this channel though...
The Night Dick I thought it was, when we took it apart there was a good amount of oil and places it shouldn't be so that was an issue but the Pistons themselves were actually fine and nothing is actually broken. That misinformation came from my previous mechanic. Regardless the forged rods and pistons are still going in the car and we should be wrapping things up this week
The Coolest Courier that's great to hear. I really appreciate all your videos, I've been thinking about buying one of these cars especially since they can be had for relatively cheap now. I'm developing a real fondness for them since a turbo upgrade and tune can give it as much power as a V8. It really helps to know what I'm in for. Keep up the good work.
So I also tuned my 2017 camaro through RPM Motorsports. Stage 2 tune with the aftermarket downpipe and charge pipes. I recently installed the cold air intake and now I have the P1101 code with a rough idle in every start. Can anyone spread some knowledge on how I can get this fixed. I have the Mishimoto CAI and everything else from RPM Motorsports. Was told by them to contact Mishimoto which I have...I’m just hoping I don’t have to drop 750.00 on a dyno tune which I am highly considering
Boost6 you really think a car that weighs 3300 pounds that makes 300 at the crank could run a 13 second quarter mile? if you can point me in the direction of a cheap place that I could get this Dyno'd id gladly do it to silence the deniers lol
Boost6 Not necessarily. It is a direct injection engine which means the injectors have a broader range of flow. You turn the boost up a little and throw more fuel at it and you can make a good amount of power with just a tune. How do you think diesel guys get 25-40% power increases with just a tune? It's the same concept just with a spark plug added in
you must be a kid, when they say 330 hp that means to the wheels on a dyno. that is the record. that would be about 400 at the flywheel. im saying im 40 hp shy of that around 360 at the flywheel. very feasible considering I have the only 2.0 with forged internals.
Georgi Georgiev it's not a muscle car dude, where have you been? Most American performance cars are full-fledged sports cars, it has that old Japanese sports car formula, rear-wheel drive, turbo motor, lightweight. Cars like this are for people who love hot hatches but don't like torque steer and wheel spin. Think outside of the box man don't just look at the name plate
After driving it 40000 more miles I think the hp figure is more like 300 at the wheels but I definitely stand by that torque figure at the crank of 378 lb ft. the torque is fat at 4000 RPM.
