I think installing some little rubber feet on the bottom would still keep it pretty stealthy and raise it up just a bit so the GPU can breath a bit more
@@mr.electronx9036 Eh... The situation is actually pretty comparable. The PS3 has 256mb RAM and the GPU has dedicated 256mb RAM. The Xbox 360 has 512mb RAM but only 10mb of eDRAM. Consequently, the Xbox has to share RAM with the GPU. Xbox is closer to internal GPU laptops, but the PS3's weird configuration is why multiplatform games often performed worse on PS3.
consoles version of the gta 5 is very different than pc version and also consoles dont run apps in the background like pc and whole power of the system is focused on running the game, and the os of the ps3 or xbox 360 is optimised a lot for running games unlike windows
Drilling more holes in the outer case on the top is about the only effective option he has with the exception of somehow adding some external fans to improve cross flow but with the lack of space the system is creating convection (like heat swirls around in an oven) and it will eventually cook the CPU and will experience major thermal throttling in the GPU as well. While very cool this is just impractical due to the nature of PC components. This is why most PC cases are much larger that the parts you put in them!
A part 2 would be really neat. Still though, hitting 80-90+ degrees on average will definitally hurt the lifespan of your components. If there is a part 2, if you somehow magically find a way to clean up the IO and make the temps more managable then that would be cool. Still, due to the space constrants I don't think it will be possible to get good power, noise, and heat distrobution. Maybe, it could be possible to get 2 out of the 3, but not all 3.
The build would have definitely benefited from a vented air exhaust, as you stated in the beginning. I would've considered swapping the GPU with an FE style cooler that blows the hot air out. It will be tricky for the CPU, though. I haven't seen a consumer vented CPU cooler on the market.
just needs to put inch legs on the xbox and cut 2 holes for the gpu fans and a dust shield. you wouldnt even see the holes being on the bottom. for cpu can use one of those itx boards that can use a laptop cpu and use laptop cooler heat pipes and blower fans
As a DIY enthusiast, I applaud you if this was your first go at something like this bro. Just like your "3rd time's a charm" approach, this can only get better if you do improve the layout, cable management, and airflow portions of the system. I'd love to see a follow up on this for sure. I'm all for unconventional presentations on consoles and pc's.
@@JocelynDaoust You understand this is a DIY sleeper PC, right? not an actual console. Why would this be "useless" and how does it hinder its performance if the airflow can be improved on?
I would've definitely used lower end, older parts, like an i3 10100f paired with a low profile card, as well as cutting out a few holes and adding a mesh over those holes to increase air flow. Overall though, impressive build. Made me want to try something like this with my fat ps3
I'd only do it if it was broken Definitely been tempted by the idea of a pc fit into a wii, was thinking about finding an older NUC board with a 4 core 8 thread and using a graphics card over M.2, preferably one that can be powered off of it. So probably the low profile RX 6400 XT Maybe, just maybe, I can keep the components just within the NUC's included power adapter's wattage limit considering most of those things processors only consume 9 to 15 watts
I think a blower style fan on the CPU cooler would help a lot with temps, since that fan is just blowing air at a blank plate at the moment. The little Noctua fans will be pulling most of the weight there, so glad you included them! Great video, and solid effort on what you've achieved here
Gotta say I normally don't like the pc in an xbox 360 shell because alot of corners i feel get cut but you kept the soul of the 360 alive in yours . Great Job
Wow, congrats! The best console ever! I have an Xbox one s these days but I've spent several hours playing with my 360, I still have it and it plays fine. It's like giving a second life to your childhood gaming time with modern games and a modern PC. I've never seen your channel before but now I'm subscribed. Thank you very much. Keep up the good work
The reason you never had the RROD all these years is because it was a later improved Xbox 360 model with HDMI. According to the performance specs on the back, it's a Jasper board.
This really enlightens the childhood in me, I think you should definitely do a follow up video of you polishing up the small things that would be fantastic!
While these Temps are high for sure, high Temps are still within spec. They'll be fine for a long time. It's not as if this will be a main pc with a lot of use. However, upgrading this unit to better the temps will be great content. Great video!
Very nice build! I would try to fiddle a bit more with the CPU and GPU undervolting and maybe try toswitch the small fans from exhaust to intake (without the shroud, it might not work very well in bringing cold air where it needs to be). Builds like these were really the ideal usecases for blower style GPUs of the past.
Dude.. the fact that you are referring to an xbox 360 arcade console as your child hood console is making me feel old af. It was mine too. I got one in 2009 or 2010. I was around 12. Just turned 25 and holy hell man... time flies (i know I'm young). The first game I ever had was Resident Evil 5. I played the 4th on ps2 a thousand times. The joy when I got this console.. great video man. Congrats on a cool build
as someone who've had all the xbox's from the original to the one s, i love this video, very nostalgic indeed because the 360 was the one i had played the most on
I'm interested in a part 2 by the way. Would love to see you actually take your time in the bios undervolting the CPU and focus more on undervolting the GPU. As well as improving the airflow and cleaning up the exterior. This thing puts out some crazy performance for the size of an xbox 360 lmao. I love it.
Great video. Not many channels make these kinds of unique video builds. I can only imagine the look on my son's face if I gave him an XBOX 360 for his 18th birthday and he finds out it's a modern PC inside. That would be so cool. I wonder if I could find one to buy that someone has already built. A part 2 to this one would be nice.
Hey Matt, excellent video, i would recommend that you use an Apu rather than a full blown GPU, that way you save space for airflow and components. Either way the main thin i woul do right now is add airflow on the top of the case, whether you use a discrete or integrated graphics.
Well, look at all those bunched up cables. Not hating on cable management or anything, but I'd think custom lengths would help airflow by there being less occupied space in there.
Pretty cool, but I thought it was going to be using the original hardware hacked. I would definitely be up for someone trying to turn that into a PC too.
For the custom Xbox 360 build, you definitely gotta RGH it and make it the ultimate Xbox 360 that way you can run Homebrew, Linux, Emulators, unreleased and cancelled games, etc. It's a very simple process now with the release of RGH3.
This was super fun, it was a video like this (I think a build in a gamecube) that got me interested in your channel in the first place! Loved to see this! I’d definitely be interested in a part 2! I also think some airflow holes above the cpu cooler and/or wherever the GPU is intaking air would be worth the sacrifice in aesthetics, but really this is just so cool!
Its not useless at all. It's pretty cool to be able to create a so compact pc. At this point if you want to LAN with your friends you can take your XBOX with you without any space problem
A part 2 would be awesome. I bet drilling a few holes by the GPU and that server CPU cooler would help a lot. Just need to get better cooling and airflow through the case
I've been building a custom Xbox One PC - Currently a 2200g but long term plan is a 5600 and an A2000 (To avoid needing to run a super high power flex PSU). Its interesting to see how your approach was different to mine (and much cleaner. lol) I've managed to internally have my PSU, keep regular motherboard standoffs (which I superglued to the case) but i've yet to solder the front IO (as I don't yet have a solder). Thank you for what you've done :)
"Somehow I never got the dreaded red ring of death" That console was manufactured in 2009, by that point, the board revision they were on had entirely fixed the issue, being the most reliable models still to this day(even more so than the slim models which came later).
Hi, great idea and very unique project. IMHO you should make many small holes just above the CPU fan (and if possible above the GPU fans). This will help with the temps and probably keep the OEM look as the Xbox already has small holes in other parts of its chassis. However, my experience with the Ryzen 5 5600x is that, whilst it is a low tdp cpu, it 100% needs a very good cooler, otherwise it gets easily to 90 degrees celcius under load. The stock AMD cooler cannot provide adequate cooling to this CPU.
Yeah was gonna say I did the same thing to a digital Dec PC, and also ran into 90 degrees C temps, on both a Ryzen 5 3600 and Ryzen 7 5800u. Custom fitting a 60mm 10000 RPM server fan inside and control with a potentiometer (believe me full speed sounds like a got dang jet engine) as well as using a low profile cooler pretty much made things more manageable. EDIT: and yes indeed the wraith stock cooler didn't help one iota, most likely due to the hat thing over the fan as well as the barely there clearance
Really great job so far man love what you are doing! I remember these 360s had after market cooling stands, I know you're not trying to add more bulk but maybe even seeing how those cooling methods functioned could give you some ideas.
I bought a used 120GB PS3 a while back for $50. When I opened it up to clean it I was shocked to see it was absolutely spotless inside. No dust whatsoever. Still have it to this day. One day I'll upgrade to a new console, maybe when the PS6 comes out?? PC gaming is better in every way anyway.
Nice build. You can definitely drop 10c or more if you just drill some holes where the CPUs at and make sure the GPU also has ventilation. With your CPU cooler fan oriented that way, it's trying to suck in air thats blocked off so it being 90+ is not surprising. In regards to that EVGA card, the hot air is exhausted through the side fin stacks so a combination of more ventilation and small fans to help direct it out would help alot. An A2000 GPU would probably work well as its less than half the vol of that and takes only 70W or so. Definitely give a look at some of the SFF Yters, they've done some great builds in that size or even smaller. Would definitely be cool to see a part 2 where you polish and shine this up a bit!
Wow, listening to someone talk about their "Childhood" Xbox 360 really hits home. I was very much an old adult when these things were new and it doesn't really seem that long ago either.
The fact you had a 360 as a child makes me feel old... I was already an Adult when the 360 came out. You both Went to Middle school, (Which I didn't because we had K-7 then 8-10 as Jr High and 11-12 as High) and went to Middle school 7 years after I graduated... This video is making me feel OLD
Man you didn't get a 360 until 2009, feelsbadman. I had one in 2005. Clocked THOUSANNNNNNDS of hours on so many games, COD4, GTA IV, World at War, MW2, RDR, Black Ops & so many more!
brought back memories, when i was a kid a friend gave me his old MW2 edition 360 with a dead disc drie, $30 for a disk drive had me my first xbox 360 for a good year
The fact that, not only you mention the specs in the description of the video but you also placed the proper link for them. You are a good human, god bless
So, something I would have done was just mod a mini pc. They have some very powerful ones you can buy that don’t have a built in gpu, and they’re a lot cheaper, then if you wanted to, you could get a usb and PCI converter kit and a physically smaller gpu and hooked it all up for a more compact but still powerful gaming pc setup. Plus more room for cable management and air flow, and power supply management would have been easier too. But your project was still great! I loved everything about it and the amazing work you do on this channel man! Never stop dreaming and never stop doing what you love! This is truly a passionate art project. It’s something you love and it’s your own creation, it’s something special to you and only you, it holds a greater value to you then anyone else. That goes for any artist and creator.
Wow this is actually a great idea! Why didnt I think of it for my sleeper build. Ive seen some Xbox 360's go for $5-$10 at pawnshops. No burglar would jack this. Edit: just got a idea. Instead of soldering stuff ill just bolt the console down to a desk with drewer and have the guts hang out in there with holes cut out for breaking.
Very cool! This is an inspiring project :) As far as thermals go, there are a few things I would try. First would be to use a blower style GPU, so that most of the heat generated is dumped straight outside of the case instead of the current GPU which dumps its heat inside the case. Then I think creating as much natural heat dispersion as possible would be a good shout. Adding mesh to the bottom of the case, or creating little gaps in inconspicuous places. Enough of those will add up to some decent ventilation. I noticed that there is also a fair bit of meat left between the factory ventilation holes, so drilling each one out to a wider diameter will take away a decent amount of surface area of the mesh, while still looking stock. I think trying to squeeze another 40mm fan into there could also work if you got some low profile RAM. Using at least one of the fans as an intake might be worth a shot too. If you weren't too picky about keeping it looking totally stock you could add some feet to the bottom to give a nice airflow gap. You could even incorporate some thin width fans underneath to force a good amount of air into the case. Either way, awesome build! ^_^
Seeing the Xbox360 being teared down is amazing but when i saw the final build at the start of the video you should definitely add the xbox part led for the button lighting up if not added already (i just read the comments yes from a year ago)
Fun fact, If you ever get the red ring of death, Duct tape the air holes through your entire Console and then turn it on. Let it stay on until it turns green again... it will work 95% of the time. I did this with mine after i got a red ring and my cousin told me to do this and it worked i was super shocked and the crazy thing is it ran for another 2 years after that! I also did this with 2 other Consoles that got the red ring and they too turned back green and worked fine after!
The CPU temps are a little hotter than they should be but that GPU TEMP IS CRAZY! Get that graphics card into an air conditioned home like it's summer.
I know this is a year old, but here's my thoughts. If you remove or modify the rear io shield, you could route the power connector to where the original power input went, and maybe even mount it so it's not just a loose wire. Alternatively it looks like there'd maybe be room for another 40mm fan there. If you're okay with using 3D printed parts, I think it would be cool to have a white custom backing plate to completely replace the scuffed up backside. Though I'm not sure you'd be able to seamlessly attach it to the rest of the shell. Also not sure how, but if you could move the dc power converter a bit to the left, you could make or find a custom circuit board to get your two front USB's back
This build is so cool! I love the small sleeper build. Thank you for sharing with us! Id love a part two with better cooling and maybe a cleaner IO setup.
Flipping the CPU fan upside down would prolly make it cool a little better, most fans push air down across the board, in this setup it would be better to pull from the across board and up out and trough the 40mm fans.
Kind of unrelated but its funny how the concept of time works depending on your age. I didn't have a 360, I had a PS3, but I was 26 when I got it. I really don't have any nostalgia there, when I think about getting my PS3 and cranking up Street Fighter 4 it feels like that was last year, lol. I'm 42 now. Its funny because in my early 20's I would have Nostalgia about things when I was say 12 or 13. It seemed like EONS ago at the time and it was 10 years. Now 10 years ago feels like yesterday. When I was young, 10 years ago felt like an entire lifetime.
It's actually easy to see why you never got the Red Ring of Death. You ended up lucking out and getting a late model Jasper system. If you look at the back of the console, you can see the power port has 2 seperate guides on the very top, and missing the one in the middle found on older systems. The manufacture date is also post august 2008, which is when they came out with the Jasper motherboards. These consoles EXTREMELY rarely if not any of them got the red ring of death. That is why you were able to push it to it's limits for countless hours, and it never fail you. Just some professional input. :)
Honestly It would be super cool to see this with an old original xbox one since those are fatter and theoretically could make really great cases for a itx build
whats crazy is i have a Dell Inspiron One 2020, which is a all in one pc, and i was wanting to build a custom "gaming" pc, but didnt know where to start. This video helped alot, if all that could fit in a old xbox 360 then it can easily fit in my pc. the only issue i was having was figuring out the psu and i had no idea something like the one in this video existed, so thank you lol
This was one of my projects back in 2011 when the first APUs from AMD arrived. A X360 gaming PC without a dedicated GPU, but it was so powerful that even Battlefield 3 runs at very high settings. Good old times
Very cool to watch this episode. The server cooler and fan would make a world of difference, if you are OK with the noise. I would have liked to see you do some more to really finish it up. I'm new to your channel and this was the episode that got me here and made me subscribe. Keep up the great content.
It would be a good idea to create a Series S style opening above the cpu. Change the direction of the blades or perhaps install a fan with a larger radius. you will draw out that warm air, and create a subsuction through the sides. I assure you that that CPU will lower its temp, including the GPU.
